http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1soosem
>A backer whale with over $40K "invested" in Star Citizen, discovered that he was tagged (essentially Blacklisted) in the CIG customer service dB.
>Not only was CIG caught using customer information given to them, then matching it against information (e.g. a Goon is a denizen of the SA forums) they pulled elsewhere, but they were also using it to determine the level of service and attention given to backers who have thus far given them almost $115 million.
ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN MILLION
>ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN MILLION
PEOPLE PAID THESE HACKS ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN MILLION
And it's still not out!
Hahahahahahaha
>>340185306
>(e.g. a Goon is a denizen of the SA forums)
you have to go back
>>340185306
>Show me a game with an infinite budget and i'll show you a game that will never come out.
>-Brian Fargo
Who backet this shitty game, and why?
>>340185306
AHAHAHAHA.
They never planned to release it is why. To be honest though, I wasn't entirely sure it was a scam until they released the concept for the endeavor. That was what changed my mind and made it pretty obvious that this was nothing more then a cash grab. They release ships (that you never see), get cash, release another ship (that you never see), get cash, release another ship etc. It's obvious the cycle is just designed to continue grabbing cash from space whales.
>pic related.
>>340185306
fuck off goon
Special Snowflake Squadron
That stream of consciousness reads like a /v/ post about Mighty Number 9.
>>340185306
>actually listening to Derek Smart
Even if you were just pretending to be retarded, you'd actually be retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTL4CBHTbvI
fucking lol
>>340186403
five more years amirite?
>allowing whales to fork over $1000s on a game that isn't even released
why the hell is this allowed?
>>340186353
>snowflakes
customer service website is offline after the incident, lol. blame goons again?
https://cloudimperiumservicesllc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
>>340186552
>making it illegal to be retarded
pls no.
>>340185983
>>340186275
nice meme
>>340185306
>people spend thousands of dollars on virtual concept art that will never be real
![Vn9qL7h[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ZwYvxZq.png "Vn9qL7h[1].png")
>furries defend this
Truly mentally ill
>>340186418
The idea of boarding and taking over a ship is cool. This look shitty af though. I guess it doesn't help that it's being played like this because they can't actually play the game for real.
>>340185306
http://archive.is/JLByy
wew lad
>>340185306
They're not showing up to E3 again. I wonder why?
http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/30/11720714/what-to-expect-from-the-pc-gaming-show
>>340186892
>be sci-fi nerd
>grow up watching all kinds of shit like star trek
>always dreamed about living on a space station
>get a good job and make 6 figures
>nothing really to spend it on besides various sci-fi themed collectors items
>game comes around offering you a sci-fi space semi-mmo
>close enough
>dump tens of thousands into what is supposed to be a dream come true
>turns out it's a terribly mismanaged project that will never live up to my expectations
>can't deal with the disappointment
>go full stockholm and defend the company that scammed me
>>340187442
>they are still giving these hacks money
what the fuck is wrong with these people
When will you people learn not to fuck with kikestarter?
>>340187504
Frontier and CIG really stumbled on a jackpot with space sims, they can make shit tonnes of money releasing broken unfinished games and sci-fi nerds will eat it upI know because I still play Elite Dangerous
>>340186271
>they hired big names like Mark fucking Hamill, which cost tons of money to get on board
>somehow doing this makes them better able to scam people
inb4 "hurr durr hiring him means theybcan use big names to get even more funding!", as if the additional money would actually make up the cost of hiring him in the first place.
>>340186418
This looks so bad, the idea is cool. But it's obviously still pre alpha and i think it's not gonna change until another 2 years pass.
>>340186662
not illegal but at least some regulation.
the whale who put in over $40,000 thinks he invested the cash. fucking seriously?
what incentive do they have to finish the game when people keep throwing millions of dollars at them over every teaser?
>>340185306
That's bigger than your average AAA game budget
>>340187636
all that proves is they aren't totally malevolent, merely retarded though
>>340187636
But that's exactly what they've done though. They have yet to meet a single deadline they've set. That doesn't seem a little bit odd to you? NOT ONE.
http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Anticipated_Release_Schedule
>>340185306
>derek smart
>>340187756
>>what incentive do they have to finish the game when people keep throwing millions of dollars at them
And this is the problem with any kind of funding that gives them the money before they finish the game, including Kickstarter, EA, etc.
Because why the fuck would they do anything except the bare minimum as long as the money keeps rolling in?
>>340186353
>guy trades ships
Grey market trading.
>high maintenance
Complains ALL the fucking time, like right now. Shocking.
>Snowflakes
Even more annoying than high maintenance. Big fucking surprise.
>>340187907
>buyer's remorse
>>340187636
>massive marketing boost
>get to work with sci-fi stars all day instead of responding to "snowflakes" on the forum
Seems like a scam to me
>>340187907
I feel bad for you guys that got legitimately conned by CR.
>>340187035
Translation: I complain nonstop, just like right now, to the devs. They marked me as a big fucking baby, and that makes me butthurt, and that triggered me.
Is it any surprise someone who donated $40k to look at pretend ships is a sperglord?
I'm not defending star citizen, but that faggot totally deserved those tags.
>>340185306
His fault for throwing away all that good money in the first place. Not a shred of sympathy from me.
>>340187953
I actually used to work for Airbnb as a call center fag, we used a system basically similar to this and it was basically up to the person taking the ticket to fill shit like that in, so you could have a guy marked high maintenance for LITERALLY NO REASON, or because they were the fucking worst. I'm guessing snowflake in their system is similar to whiteglove at airbnb, where rich or famous people get treated better by a special team because you don't want them to shittalk the company in public.
>>340187035
"I am marked high maintenance and I only requested a refund."
>>340187035
>they've decided that insults are good business policy
That's retarded.
>>340185306
What the fuck
Why is there a trading reddit forum for a game that isn't even out?
>>340188365
>pay 40k to someone so they do a job
>they are doing a shit job so remind them to do better since you invested FOURTY THOUSAND DOLLARS in their venture
>they make fun of you for it
in literally no other industry would shit like this fly
the guy was retarded for paying 40k and still giving them money but this is some really shitty business going on
>>340188670
Scam Citizen is a cult
>>340186271
>has become
It's what it was like from the start.
>>340188758
They truly are the... star citizens...
>>340188769
It wouldn't surprise me if he started out wanting to make a game, but once he had the money he decided, "fuck it" when he realized he could continue to just milk this thing. He already got what he wanted from it, which was a fuckton of money.
>>340187907
'sup chris
>>340185306
ffs, this guy hasn't invested 40k - 40k is the total amount of money that has passed through his account as a result of his grey market trading over the years... other people pay him to buy ships, or he buys en mass during sales and resells for a small profit afterwards when the sale has ended.
This guy might have actually pledged $50 of his own money, the rest comes from other people buying into the game through him.
>>340188734
I am pretty sure if you invested $40k into any type of large investment concept project or similar, then made complaint after complaint that you want it finished right now because you think you're hot shit for wasting your money, you'd be mocked, regardless of industry. Privately, of course, but I'm chalking this up to CIG being incompetent as always and forgetting to set those tags as CS agent only.
>>340188734
He didn't "invest" anything, he's a pathetic waste of air with nothing in his life but too much money, and he's willing to pay retarded amounts of it because he dreams of being a virtual space captain when in reality he'll be flying AI controlled ships around because nobody is pathetic enough to work for a whale with all the tactical capability of a potato.
>>340189238
When someone is investing large sums of money with you, its generally a good idea to treat them nicely and not mock them.
>"Fans would come into the studio, and I wanted to be like 'Dude, run. Take your money and run.' I felt like I was part of a con,"
kek, how did people put money into this
>>340189494
>$40k
>most of that $40k through grey market trading
>out of $115mil
>a "huge investment"
Oh you.
>>340189718
115 million is a massive investment. It makes star citizen the second most expensive game in development history. Are you fucking serious?
>>340189930
>reading comprehension
>>340189718
>we can insult small-medium investors because they're not large
Companies tend not to like attacking people giving them the same amount of money as 10,000 regular customers
>>340189570
I don't get why people think this is a con. I mean, shit is clearly coming together. FPS module, more ships added to the hangar regularly, combat, racing, FTL beta... thing, it's clearly being worked on. Sure, it's taking waaaaay longer than they said, but if you knew about Chris Roberts and Freelancer, you should know that's pretty much par for the course for him.
>>340189985
This isn't fucking reddit, you're not going to get away with your cultist shit here. 40k and 115 are huge investments into a project that has turned out nothing.
>>340185937
I don't understand people who say this shit seriously.
Of course it's not out. Shitting out a game on a yearly basis is pretty much solely the work of AAA-recognized devs. It's far more common for a game to take anywhere from 4-8 years to develop.
How new to video games do you have to be to not know this? Or are those yearly installments like Dark Souls and Call of Duty the only games these people play?
>>340187907
>>340185306
>he was tagged (essentially Blacklisted) in the CIG customer service dB.
> using customer information given to them, then matching it against information (e.g. a Goon is a denizen of the SA forums) they pulled elsewhere, but they were also using it to determine the level of service and attention given to backers
Good, goons don't deserve to be taken seriously
Was this that game with all the fan sprite works of bird people fucking and such? Those were cute. That was the only thing that seemed remotely interesting to me about it.
>>340190192
you retard they are ripping ppl off they said the game would be done last year and it isn't now they are just doing all of this shit so they can rip ppl off for more monies so chris roberts can go into space or some shit.
>>340190227
His point was that 40k out of 115000k isn't shit
>>340190525
starbound, friend
>>340190192
>>340190352
Peoples want it to fail just to have a second Tortanic
>>340190142
I get your point, and no one would intentionally insult their customers regardless of donation amount, but these tags happen in almost every business that keeps a log of customers. A guy further up this thread did it for AirBnB, when I worked at Blockbuster years ago we had comments for our customers. It's not meant for customers, it's necessary to keep track of people for good and bad. Again, CIG were fucking morons for making it public, but all of their tags were perfectly reasonable. If it had personal insults about them it'd be different, but those tags are totally reasonable (and a lot nicer worded than the shit we used to put for ranting soccer moms at Blockbuster).
>>340190629
Oh well carry on.
Speaking of, is Starbound any fun or is the fan sprite sex the only noteworthy thing about it??
>>340187221
>>340190607
Didn't that source turn out to be bullshit, though? Are you still taking it seriously?
>>340190643
star citizen could never be the next tortanic simply because everyone knew it was a scam before the kickstarter was finished.
>>340190772
I've not played it but as far as I've heard its still just the latter.
>>340185306
I have no bleeding idea what you or that post is trying to say. It doesn't even look like English.
tl:dr?
>derek smart
I'm sure he's right this time!
>>340190772
It's ok. It's Terraria with a spacetravel gimmick and drastically less endgame
>people complain
>"High Maintenance" because it takes ressources to keep them at bay
>people complain and want to be entitled
>"Snowflakes" because they have to be taken care of even more. Probably only for 10K+ "donators"
I dodged a bullet SO much on this. Thanks /v/
>>340190912
The company responsible for producing Star Shitizen is doing internet-forum background checks on customers and treating them differently based on the sites they frequent
>>340190751
CIG probably didn't do shit themselves proper but make the mistake of hiring their community team, who after a point started being hired from the forums themselves.
I mean, have you actually seen the CS team? They're all fucking obese as fuck (or maybe there's a few normal people in there, shunted to the side of the camera to fit in the WIFE OF THE HAMPLANET WITH JOB DESCRIPTION O "REPRESENTS ENTIRE COMMUNITY" BEN "LE SNICKERS" LESNICK AKA HAVE YOU GUYS HEARD ABOUT THE HOLY GOSPEL THAT IS WING COMMANDER?
Jesus fuck I understand why, it must be a pity hire, but I guess until the game comes out they can't hire a new community team to replace them. I believe the writing team is going to be expanded and effectively replace them when they start GMing the game with any luck.
>>340190789
>Didn't that source turn out to be bullshit, though
i'm just a passerby in this star citizen stuff. in that article i see 6 or 7 sources that seem to have corroborating stories and hopefully the journalist would do at least minimal work in verifying their sources were at least ex employees.
i mean it's either that or take roberts at his word, unless you know something i dont.
>>340190912
customer service ticket website showed tags intended for internal usage after some update. they include:
-grey market trader (trading of ships in reddit before the game's out)
-high maintenance (probably a high investment player or with lots of tickets in the past)
-snowlake (as in special snowflake - handle with care - vip, same as above)
it's a kickstarted game.
>>340190789
star drones like to say it's fake because the sources are anonymous
>>340191103
Nice shit post anon, it's about as incomprehensible as the OP who suddenly shouts "150 MILLION!!!111!!" as if that is related to the actual event that has occurred in any way.
>>340190912
It's just salty derek making shit up again
>>340191103
Thanks for the explanation. Good on them, special people need special treatment.
>>340191120
>>I mean, have you actually seen the CS team?
Have you seen Archeage's CM tranny? Just GIS "Celestrata Bloodsong".
>>340190912
you might need to get your eyes checked/head back to 4th grade
>>340191192
CIG employee turnover is horrific. It wouldn't surprise me if alot of them settle into the company only to discover how little has been done and want to dis-affiliate themselves with the company as quickly as possible.
>>340191192
One of the sources they touted as the most legit had posted a made up ID card because SC uses generic industry standard blank RFID keys to access the office.
>>340187756
what regulation, nigger
I'm sure they're legally required to tell you 50 times in the EULA and elsewhere that preorders are basically donations with no obligation on the developer to deliver on time. But because nobody reads those they think it's the same as paying for a car and never getting it
>>340189015
This has already happened with games like Mechwarrior: Online, so it isnt the most unrealistic speculation.
>>340185306
Derek Smart is a complete fucking retard and anything he says should be considered fallacy simply by it exiting his stupid face hole.
Disclaimer: I have invested $0 into Star Citizen and couldn't care less if it's a scam or whatever. I hate Dr. Derek Smart MD PhD for being a litigious bastard that fucked over countless people and wasted hundreds of hours of the court's time on bullshit lawsuits, and because every single game he has ever released has been a massive pile of unplayable dogshit. Fuck him and everything about him.
>>340191269
Oh god why did I do what you asked me to.Looks a little bit like my friend, scarily enough
>>340191103
>>340191187
Why do they call it blacklisting? It's practically VIP-treatment. And if someone splerges $40k on a game then he deserves the VIP treatment.
>Still not out
>not gonna show up on E3
Star citizen is at a point where no matter the result it will be disappointing and you'll see backers complaining the entire time.
>>340191170
>hopefully the journalist would do at least minimal work in verifying their sources
They didn't, though. That's what the whole shitstorm over that article was about. The sources contacted the "journalist", not the other way around, and used "employee badges" (for a company that claims they don't use employee badges) as evidence they were telling the truth. They were taken at their word, with little or no verification
>>340191497
nah they have a cult like mentality. everything their god does - is good.
>>340191432
bro derek smart gives a shit about gamers and hes trying to bring down those fucks as they are ripping ppl off. hes one of the good guys and we need more of them
>>340191365
Still, no made up ID cards can excuse the fact the game has been severely delayed already.
>>340191478
>It's practically VIP-treatment.
No, anon, it's the opposite. He dumped $40k on their game and the support team treated him like he was a worthless little shit because their background check revealed he posts on somethingawful forums
>tfw backed star shitizen
Thank god I only wasted £20 on that shit
>>340191478
It's already been pointed out in this thread he has a $40k counter on his hanger page but the actual amount of money he spent on them is significantly less on account to most of that money getting back to him by selling ships elsewhere on the grey market (using early backer discounts and benefits to sweeten the deals compared to buying direct).
This whole tantrum is because of someone trying to sell their shit elsewhere and CS, being the lard for brains they are can't into computer revealed that CIG knows.
ITT: People genuinely, unironically defending shit devs, who laugh at their investor who invested 40k.
Really /v/? How are you being better than rebbit?
>>340191634
>Smart
>A good guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
>>340191634
You need to be over 18 to post on this board.
>>340191478
"snowfake" tag, more tags include "goons" (on a non-goon member, as revealed in reddit by the way)
>>340191406
>paying for a car and never getting it
I don't get it
>>340186353
Don't know why he's upset, those account flags seem to be accurate.
>>340191676
>incompetent idea guys
>labels customers as snowflakes and sa goons, doesn't want to listen to them
>roberts and wife apparently sperg out over anything
>roberts wife wont hire black women
>roberts wife calls people faggots in emails
it's like /v/ is making this game.
>>340191737
it's not /v/, this thread got linked and now it's being brigaded by cultists.
How will these anti-shills react when the game gets released and becomes an instant success?
>>340190795
It wouldn't have made 115+ million if people thought it was a scam idiot.
>>340192076
bs, you're making up shit to try save face now, going damage control
>>340190227
not OP but you're a fucking idiot. He's saying that 40k isnt huge in comparison to 115 million, and hes right. Jesus I hate how retarded everyone is these days.
>>340192140
>if the game gets released
ftfy
>>340192168
damage control for what? A game that isn't coming out? I don't support scamizen.
>>340191702
you and me both brudda
>>340192164
that's how scams work though you retard. they prey on the weak minded. do you give nigerian princes 5k everytime they ask in an email?
>>340190352
Hey remember when they said it'd be out in 2014?
Then 2015?
Here's hoping for the ass-end of 2016 hahahahaha
>>340191472
Your friend is a tranny?
Did you ever talk to him about it?
>>340191406
You can't sign away basic consumer rights in EULAs. For the same reason you can't void your own basic rights with contracts. Paying for something and never getting it is literally theft / fraud.
Of course, in America consumers getting fucked in the ass is standard practice so you'd never expect them to understand what contracts actually entail.
>>340192140
At thw start they'll post endless golden memefaces when the servers don't work the first few days because so many people are trying to use them, claiming it's the blunder of the century. Then they'll spend a couple months shitposting about all the features not yet implemented that were promised, even as those features are slowly implemented. Finally they'll die down to a few shitposters in /scg/ that still complain about how long it took while still enjoying the game.
>>340192005
>>roberts wife wont hire black women
Based waifu, why are you people against this company anyway? Are you Shillary supporters?
>>340192302
Might try and sell my copies of Star Citizen, try and get at least some money back.
>>340192439
No,furry into bodypaint and cosplay
So, kinda the same thing.
I honestly just feel pity for all the people that fell for this. Despite being a big Wing Commander fan, I refused to back a single cent after looking at the backer tier rewards. "Insurance", give me a fucking break.
I don't even have the willpower to look through these stories of this scam. Tons of people are so attracted to seeing every single new development of this shitshow, but it's just so pathetic it's not even worth acknowledging.
>>340185306
I take it all back, Star Citizen is the best kickstarter project to have ever graced the internet, the entertainment is top quality.
>>340192140
It's going to be an unoptimzed, buggy, lackluster mess and not a single one of the promised features will live up to the hype.
>>340191924
>Tesla model 3 buyers can elaborate on this
>>340185306
Why would they blacklist one of their biggest donors? You'd think they'd want to make sure he was happy since he has so much skin in the game that he would be much more likely to blow the whistle to game journos if something were amiss.
>>340185306
>Derek Smart
You've been memed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
>>340192587
Man, I remember liking the ship designs and stuff and thinking it would be cool when it came out.
I actually got the Mustang Beta, only thing I did, but holy fuck is the game unoptimized.
>>340186128
>breeding season
>>340192704
>SA
>>340191347
Wouldn't surprise me. Good chance that anyone working there at the time everything finally comes undone would be somewhat blackmarked for having taken part in it. God help anyone of them who's name people get a hold of when it comes crashing down
>>340192587
https://youtu.be/blPpnnSOiwk
I dont feel sad for them. Most Star Citizen cultists are degenerate furries, which explains a lot why they're so autistic about the game.
>Visit OP's link
>Derek Smart
>>340192704
Isn't Smart against SC?
>>340186128
Blackgate.
Why do people keep calling this a scam? I mean the project might be complete shit but roberts looks like he's trying at least.
>>340192854
That video is like 9 years old boo.
>>340192631
I'd like to nominate this video for best Bantz related video:
https://youtu.be/ChOVfFJJTdI
(huh, original channel got removed, lame)
>>340192960
is that supposed to make a difference?
Derek Smart is a humongous faggot and a dipshit, but that doesn't mean this isn't a scam.
>>340192938
He's been the self-declared arch rival of Chris Roberts since the 90s, except unlike Roberts he's never actually made a good game. He basically tried to make Star Citizen for about $500 in the early 2000s and failed spectacularly.
>>340192960
That explains the shit-tier camera, photos and effects.
>>340186418
>Should we dedicate the extra money we got to bringing on more talent, fixing bugs, and delivering a polished space sim that people wanted?
>nah let's add first-person shooting combat
>>340192140
just buy the game while still shitposting about how it doesn't live up to the hype and should have been better.
honestly though there's a sub 1 percent chance of that happening.
>>340191221
That's actually true though. Goons in particular get banned from the RSI forums for posting images on SA that connect to their game accounts.
>>340192946
with the gross mismanagement we're witnessing so far, some people might be contempt with" at least you tried" attitude.
>115 million dollars
>>340192938
Just because they're against something you're against doesn't mean they're a good person fighting for justice. Derek Smart hates Scam Citizen because it's the most successful independently funded space game ever, and he's jealous as fuck because all his space games were godawful unplayable messes. It just blisters his bum to see that success, so instead of trying to get smarter about conning people, he's taken to campaigning against it for easy attention from retards like OP.
>>340193226
Why is everyone memeing about Smart then? I had the impression he made SC from this thread ffs.
>>340193252
150 MILLION?!?1??????
>>340193308
Ok, so in your warped world view, one should be a "better scammer" instead of saying that scammers are scammers... lol, do they teach that shit in American school nowadays or what? It's pretty sad.
>>340193381
That's not what the OP said at all.
>>340193113
>show is in LA
>has a studio in LA
sorry guys, looks like i'll have to be in my out of country studio that day.
>>340193370
Because the twitlonger post that OP linked to was posted by Derek Smart. Whatever your opinion is of Star Citizen, Derek Smart is not a reliable source of information because he has been actively managing a whisper campaign against it due to personal issues he has with Roberts.
>>340193471
You're an utter moron if that's the message you got from my post. Drink bleach ASAP.
>>340193381
Remember muh 300 gorillion
>>340193512
And if you read the reply chain, you've completely missed the point.
That anon posting a reaction image pointed out half the message does not line up with the other half of the message. I backed him up by pointing out a random number doesn't make any sense. You just elaborated on the OTHER half of the message and not the fact there's a random connection being made and we're calling out the more heavily emphasised part that makes the entire context of the message retarded.
>>340190352
>How new to video games do you have to be to not know this?
Are you talking to the devs?
Because they promised a lot less.
>>340192938
He turned against SC after he actually invested in it during kickstarter and promptly refunded after some troubles in 2015.
>>340193471
>do they teach capitalism in american schools
as a matter of fact they do. scamming runs the world you dunce.
>>340192978
wait was that actually 2 days of flying in real time and nothing happened, holy shit
>>340193702
Really? Because that looked like inane shitposting.
>>340185306
>tfw people will never give you 115 million dollars for doing absolutely nothing.
>>340192946
Selling jpgs of ships for tens of thousands of dollars before the game is even finished has a scam written all over it. See what happened with mechwarrior online.
Chris '115 million more' Roberts
>>340193972
He did stage it so it would take a long time but obviously the point of the video was banter regarding his own comment section on the previous video:
https://youtu.be/FwoXcpqp3Ew
And this is from a deleted channel that posted Elite Dangerous videos of just gameplay.
>>340194172
>deleted channel
Fuck, Jaguarskills was great
>>340194132
>yfw the drones will all double their payment if he tells them he knows, for sure this time, with their donations, he'll be ready for release in 2017
>>340190643
The tortanic didn't even sink but this one is different just because of the sheer volume of delusion and high expectations backed upfront by money.
Everything about the game screams mismanaged and not possible while simultaneously the game is promised to be an everything simulator.
It's going to be amazing when those chickens finally come home to roost. We may very well see somebody suicide over it.
>>340194612
You forgot:
>by 2017 the game will be delayed by 5 years because evil goons and Gamergate said something mean about them on the internet and irredeemably sabotaged the 115 million project.
>>340185306
>muh spaceships
>>340192164
It's called a confidence game.
>>340194072
They've made it clear on every possible occasion that pledges are to support development, not for the purpose of "buying" the ship.
Everything is obtainable in the game, and getting that particular ship without an in-game investment is just the bonus for pledging that amount.
Even in its glitchy, barebones state, they have still delivered the most complete space sim in years.
We could have gotten another indie welfare plea kickstarter, or another derivative Mambo No 9 cash in, but SC is at least trying to make something at the level PC games should be at in the 2010s before console AAA development fucked everything up.Although I did back Bloodstained...
>>340194863
>The spaceship equivalent of a passenger airliner
Nice choice of jpg
>>340192164
>>340194952
You're buying a pledge which incidentally contains a ship.
>>340185306
>derek smart
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahabahahahahahaha fuck off shill . Star Citizen will come out and you faggots will be shut once and for all
>no guarantee of completed project
>no refunds
>dev has no risk
>free money
I bet this is a social experiment where people prove how easily dipshits waste their money
>>340186353
>Snowflakes
>>340195160
>>340195160
Just don't kill yourself when it's still not done by 2027, ok?
>>340186353
It looks like Derek's claim of Sandi being a bit of a cunt turned out to be true.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT AND DAILY REMINDER:
> X series > Freelancer > Elite > Spore >>>>>>> Scam citizen
>>340186418
>Limited ammo
Nope.
>>340195950
>spore
brb uninstalling and making herbivores
>>340194952
>Even in its glitchy, barebones state, they have still delivered the most complete space sim in years.
Broken prealpha where you cant even fly most of the ships is the most complete space sim in years. Wow.
>but SC is at least trying to make something
No doubt their motives were genuine the first year. But right now theyre raking in money for doing absolutely nothing, which has made them complacent and lazy. You cant say they're trying to do something when theres been so many delays already. You SC cultists are insane.
>>340195950
>X Rebirth
>Good
>>340192392
>>340193724
It's also extremely common for devs to overshoot their deadlines by miles.
Walking Dead season 1 episodes were all a month behind schedule. Early access games never leave early access. The only games that consistently meet their deadlines are the ones that have a slavedriving publisher like what happened to MGSV, or are well-exercised in pumping shit out like CoD
>>340195950
>Seriously putting Freelancer that high
>Seriously putting X1/2 up with TC/AP
>Seriously putting all elites in one bag
>Thinking Spore is even fucking relevant when most of it is a The Sims clone
7/10
>>340194952
Then why do you pay sales tax like VAT
>>340196092
>walking dead a month behind schedule
>sc 4 years behind schedule
this is bait right?
>>340195950
i think it's telling the best open world space game I've played in years was some indie project from the guys that made Torchlight
not as good as freelancer itself but i had more fun with this than I did with Elite Dangerous
>>340195306
Once they release this Squadron thing, they'll have met their kickstarter promises and their game will technically be released. Everything else they have planned is bonus content for post-launch
Reminder that SA has a Star Citizen subforum and Derek Smart is it's moderator.
Why are they called whales? Outside of being fat, I mean.
>>340196056
>you cant even fly most of the ships
So on par with most space flight sims then.
>>340196092
Those weren't deadlines, only estimates. But you're right, games in development can hit a holding pattern for any number of reasons.
>>340190772
It's gotten much better recently, several big patches. They may finally get out of Early Access in the next month or five.
>>340196092
Good goy this is normal, just give them money for free
This is how the free market works, right?
Trust and faith
>>340196290
>walking dead a month behind schedule
Each episode. As in episode 3 was a month behind schedule, episode 4 was ANOTHER month behind schedule for a total of 2 months, and so on
It was also a tiny, simplistic game
>>340196290
>4 years
Yep, bait alright.
>>340196327
fat wallets. like a big lumbering slow whale that is too stupid to figure out that a fool and his money are easily separated.
>>340196327
people with huge disposable income and more than average enthusiasm
>>340196307
That might explain why they're refusing to attend some of the better gaming conventions this year. Rushing it out the door takes priority.
>>340196434
I haven't given them any money, and won't until they have an actual game to show.
>>340185306
You know.
Unless those thousand dollar price tags for ships includes a ticket for a chance to actually go to space in real life, what exactly is the incentive to shell out something that probably costs more than the machine you use to run it on?
>>340196615
But you defend the rest of the retards who did
>>340196358
"big patches" that still make it a pre-alpha stage. Its really fucking funny when Star Citizen furries invade threads about it everywhere, whether it be here, reddit, other chans or any other site.
MN9 gets delayed and has lackluster beta, everyone laughs and says the project is doomed. SC gets delayed by years and has lackluster PREALPHA, and SC shills go "You guys are mean! Its not even out yet so you can't judge! When the game is out you're going to be really jealous when I fly around with my 10,000 dollar spaceship!"
>>340196301
It didn't take long for me to hit a point in Rebel Galaxy where it just felt like I was doing the same two or three things over and over. The only thing bigger ships and better gear did was increase statistic variables to match NPC ships' increased variables. Nothing really changed over the course of the game.
>>340196753
The only thing I've defended is the delayed release date.
>>340196301
Godlike soundtrack.
>>340196851
Useful idiot I guess
>>340196793
Star Citizen fans invade threads about Starbound? All I ever see in Starbound threads are "REGRET" and Terraria fans shitting on it.
>>340196695
At least I have an excuse for a large amount. It's been years in the making and I've bought my family members (that have gaming rigs) starter kits except that one brother who basically got very into it, who got a Cutlass).
Also student loans and totally mooching on parents. I wouldn't have spent any more on it if I actually had a job because things like my own place would suddenly be in reach.
>>340196812
The same happened for me when I played ED, but I didn't have to pay 60 dollars for RG. And the soundtrack was good enough in RG for me to keep going to finish a second playthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYP8Hi_cowI&list=PLRMcXkadosW43B18ZSbYFqBnFn2myQwRw&index=28
>Furries are the main backers
And like clockwork, cancerous autism shows itself once more
Real talk here: How long do you think it will take for everyone to realize it was a scam? How many more years are they going to keep pulling this off? Will they ever be stopped?
>>340196992
Starbound is legitimately the only game I think I have ever actually had buyers remorse over. I bought ME3 and I managed to convince myself it was worth it for the goofy multiplayer, but Starbound was just horrid and disappointing in every way imaginable.
>>340197181
never. if they havn't figured it out by now no amount of knowledge will overcome their delusions. even when they go bankrupt they'll find a way to blame something else.
>>340196695
Those packages have Lifetime Insurance on them. You will be able to get all those ships in the game by playing normally but LTI replaces those ships forever if you die or something.
>>340197181
I'd say few years. Star Citizen cultists are still too retarded and have blind faith for the project.
>>340195950
DAILY REMINDER THAT X IS DEAD
Also Voidexpanse is pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrqrxvMwx_0
>>340197181
I think among the cultists they'll have 3 more years. Among the rest of the press and gaming community they have the remainder of this year to put out something truly meaningful.
>>340197181
Even if it's not a scam, why would they release the game? They made $115 million off of people giving them money for nothing. Releasing the game would mean taking away the reason those people spent all that money. Do you think they would suddenly start making MORE money if they finally released it and sold it for $40-60 when you have people spending $40k on it? They have an incentive to push it back as long as possible and rake in more money.
>>340197593
They would make more if they made a GOOD game with a subscription model.
>>340197181
Money will run out. Courts will take forever because they'll deliver something resembling a game. Meanwhile, Chris et al. would promise more content for more money. He already said Star Citizen will never be complete and features will be added, like WoW, as money flows, if ever.
>>340197593
>Even if it's not a scam, why would they release the game?
that seems to be an oxymoron there anon.
>>340197593
Yes. Yes they would.
They ONLY have 1 million backers.
Games have SEVERAL million customers in the AAA category.
C'mon son, use some fucking brains.
The fucking game would be done already if people stopped giving them money so Roberts has an excuse to keep it in development with the promise of increasing the "scale" of the project. That and retards constantly asking for bullshit features like
>I wanna mix cocktails in my space yacht
>I wanna make and sell drugs out of the back of my space RV
>I wanna discover new star systems before anyone else does with procedurally generated planets.
$115 million later and it's still not close to completion because every time somebody gives them another million dollars they have to add more features to justify the outrageous amount of money they keep getting.
GOONS GOONS GOONY ASS GOONS
>>340197967
Most games, even AAA games, don't have individual customers dropping tens of thousands of dollars on the game.
>>340197995
>I wanna make and sell drugs out of the back of my space RV
legitimately sounds fun
>I wanna discover new star systems before anyone else does with procedurally generated planets.
is retarded.
>>340198009
Is that fursuit wearing fishnets as well?
>>340198009
>reverse image search
>brings up an actual cat in a blue wig
hm. wish i could post images without my fucking browser crashing.
>TFW have friends who didn't see past this scam
Ahahaha holy shit
>>340198323
well yeah, other wise theyd be naked silly.
>>340197181
Never. At least until the announcement is made that they're bankrupt. Until then people who are in too deep cannot and will not ever stop pushing others to donate to Star Citizen. It's a massive sunk cost fallacy with a pyramid scheme thrown in.
The rest of us who are not retarded already saw the glaring problems and bailed
>>340198009
>tfw furfaggots lost
I don't follow this drama, WHY exactly is it taking so long? From what I've heard of Star Citizen it's basically GTA in space, or a more detailed Elite:Dangerous right? Can't they just use the methods those games used to make their game?
![merchandise-spaceballs[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EAdU33h.jpg "merchandise-spaceballs[1].jpg")
>>340198140
Now you're straight up naive. It's called MERCHANDISING!
And again the vast majority haven't bought the game, let alone heard about it.
>>340198537
imagine if you gave molyneaux 100 million dollars and no management. it's basically "SEE THAT PLANET OVER THERE"
>>340197967
I think you're drastically overestimating both the PC vidya market, and Star Citizen's popularity.
>>340197181
Never. Many people will forget about it, but there will always be a group or two that defends the game fervently.
It's spooky thinking about the people that will eventually kill themselves over this game.
>>340198848
just the genre alone. even if it was 10 times better than elite dangerous it would be lucky to garner twice the sales numbers.
>>340198537
>WHY exactly is it taking so long?
Because video games take a very long time to make without a publisher telling them to hurry it up or else.
With $35,000 I'd just buy a nice rig and a flight simulator game, and then buy hookers with the spare money.
>>340185306
>a Goon
Go back to your tranny shithole.
Every game you spread to goes to shit and most of the culture hacking faggots out there responsible for the internet diaspora are born from your shithole forums.
