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Is DOOM the best single player FPS since BioShock?
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Is DOOM the best single player FPS since BioShock?
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There have been WAY better FPS released between Bioshock and DOOM.
Hell, there are way better FPS released in 2007 - Like Crysis.
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>>340182712
>crysis
>good fps
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>>340182876
It's one of the best FPS ever.
You probably fell for the "le tech demo" meme.
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>>340182542
>bioshock

good game but not really anything special as far as FPS go
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>>340182542
It's a step in the right direction, Best shooter in the past couple years
D44M should be a example of what people actually want, Expansive levels with plenty of secrets,fast paced combat, No regenerating health and minimal cut-scenes.
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>>340182542
D44M is currently my GOTY, this is after having played and beaten DaS3, Stellaris, and Total War Warhammer. Its just so damn amazing
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>>340182542
>bioshock
>remarkable as an fps in any way
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>>340183081
Honestly what surprised me the most was that they didn't add reloading.

The fact that you don't have to relead makes for such a good flow of combat.

Game really needed more enemies though. The enemy limit, even while being better than in most shooters, wasn't nearly Doom enough.
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>Bioshock

It's the best FPS since HL2EP2.
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>>340182712
Crysis is not a good fps but okay
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>>340182542
I think its one of the best FPS in years. It could have done some things better of course, but it is fun and I like where the shooter Genre would be going if other developers would try to do oldschoolish things as well.
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>>340183605
Good point I forgot about Orange Box
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>>340183892

Doom and Half Life used to be the big daddies of FPS. When Doom 3 and HL2 hit one year after the other there was a huge rivalry.

It feels weird (and sad) that they are still the kings of single player FPS games, almost a decade after their releases and the only game that manages to reach such a high level is Doom 4.

Now if only Half Life follows suit and also makes a triumphant return.
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DOOM as a FPS is probably the best FPS ever.

Why? Because the simple action of shooting an Imp with the super shotgun was refined to perfection for what it is
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What is up with the super shotgun in this game? If I'm point blank range it will deal ridiculous damage but if I'm even like 3 feet away it won't do any damage at all. Is that how shotguns work irl?
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>>340182542
Just finished this masterpiece
The only issue I have is that there are only 3 bosses
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>>340185325
>mfw Cyber Demon boss fight

Holy hell that was an amazing boss fight
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>>340185230

>What is balance
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>>340182542
>BioShock
>FPS

The shooting in Bioshock was average at best, don't kid yourself.
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>>340183564
Blame console limitations.

If they make Quake 5 PC exclusive and ditch consoles prepare for quake 1 but with doom 1 amounts of enemies
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>>340182542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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>>340185584
Bioshock was a visual novel with a shooting minigame.
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>>340185230
No

but it depends what you're shooting no? I think that demons are built to take some serious punishment and Doom Guy is happy to oblige.
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>>340182542
>bioshock
>good
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>>340185682
Infinite is a bioshock game in name only fuck that game
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>>340182542
What about Wolfenstein: The New Order?
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>>340182712
>crysis
>good after the aliens come
The first half, maybe. The entire game, nah.
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>>340182542
new new doom is literally this game with updated graphics and not made by slavs
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>>340182975
>crysis
>getting a good FPS
>let alone the best FPS
please. that game still can't run on modern hardware.
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>>340185927
Was this any good?
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>>340185963
First Person Shooter and Frames Per Second are different things.

Fuck I just got trolled
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>>340182542
literally who?
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>>340185230

I haven't been putting the Super Shotgun in my snapmaps because I can't balance the damn thing. Its too good.

And you get too much carrying capacity for the rocket launcher.

I want to customize this shit.
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>>340186251
Once you enter the demon world shit gets real.
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>>340182542
>bioshock
>good
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>>340185230
it was this way in doom 2 as well, at point blank a super shotgun blast does more damage than the bfg
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>>340182542
1) Stalker:soc is way better than Bioshock.
2) HL2.
3) Doom 2016.
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>>340185772
the way you feel about how the series went downhill from bioshock->bioshock infinite is exactly how I feel about how the series went downhill from system shock 2->bioshock
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Metro 2033 stomps all these faggot games you guys are talking about
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>>340182542
This and Wolfenstein The New Order are the best modern shooters in a while.
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>>340186820
>Metro xxxx
Sorry bro, but railshotter a shit.
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Singularity was better than Bio Shock
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It's one of the best.

>tfw playing DOOM on ultra nightmare
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>>340185584
the plasmids made the shooting great m8
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>>340186690
>HL2
>good
try again, dork
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>>340186690
Some of the guns in HL2 feel pathetic
Stalker's gunplay is just average
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Post yfw you realised the Gauss cannon is the best weapon in the game. Also the plasma rifle a shit.
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>>340187384

>being a contrarian neo-/v/ cunt
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>>340187384
>>340186534
>summer children in charge of having taste in shooters
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good single player

Snap map is smooth and well made

Multiplayer is average at best
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>>340186690
Stalker is eh
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>>340187560
I fucking love the assault rifle.

Makes me feel like driving steel stakes through enemies.

But you know

>Fully upgraded Chaingun

That's something else entirely
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>>340187562
>>340187563
What makes it good, then?
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>>340187560
>tfw you use siege mode for the first time.
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Easily one of the best if not the best. There were some parts where I just had a big, stupid grin on my face because of how much fun I was having and how out of control shit was getting. Fucking loved it.

>>340187318
>tfw I can't even get past the 4th mission

UN is fucking tough, but every time I die on it is because I fucked up, which just makes the defeat so much worse.
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>Bioshock
>a good FPS

HA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>340187563
>reaction pic from a shitty eroge
>calls other people summer children
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>>340187840
>>340187560
>using siege mode on Barons of Hell

>>340187717
How good is the chaingun fully upgraded? I completely forgot about using it because I loved the assault rifle, but in videos that tri-cannon mode with the chaingun looks fucking powerful.
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>>340188045
Both upgrade paths (trigun and incendiary rounds) kick ass. I use if mostly for the mancubus'
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>>340187989
Just because Infinite was shit doesn't mean the other ones were
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Odds of DLC single player content? Or is snapmap the end all be all
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>>340183081
>D44M should be a example of what people actually want
ham-fisted RPG elements, and first-person cinematics every 5 seconds?
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>>340182542
Its a shitty cinematic shooter for brutal doom kids, dead and forgotten in a month.
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>>340188558
Dude

The singleplayer ends on a fucking cliffhanger.
More singpleplayer stuff is fucking confirmed.
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>>340188573
The upgrade mechanics were goat (everybody here LOVES FEAR) and the glory kills are brief, stop being such a fucking baby
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>>340188558
I'm hoping for an Old Blood-style expansion, sort of like a "Thy Flesh Consumed" for the game.
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>>340188692
In the sequel
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>first playthrough on Ultra Violence
>get to that level when you ride on top of the tram and it stops in that drop off bay area
>enemies fucking everywhere
>shit getting ridiculous
>this starts blaring at deafening levels during the fight

https://youtu.be/-3SCUu1wfJQ?t=57

Easily one of the most memorable SP experiences I've had in awhile, I know for a fact that part and many others will stay in my mind and make me want to play it again for a long time.
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>>340188484
2 certainly was

and 1 controls like ass + secuROM
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post your face when this music came on after every battle

https://youtu.be/LrcqbVJVgFk?t=8m48s
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>>340186690
>mfw i just can't into SoC because of the really plastic-y gunplay

ing4 >git gud
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>>340188863
>reach tower ascent
>this starts blasting at the top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
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>>340188484
remember that pipe laying minigame in 1?

yeah.
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>>340188208
I'm gonna have to have another playthrough and actually use it this time around, then. I was using the Gauss Cannon most of the time to take of Mancubus' but it was a total waste of ammo when I needed it bad for Barons or Cyber Mancubus'.
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>>340188705
>The upgrade mechanics were goat
Fuck no. That cancer needs to be cut off of FPS genre once and for all. ESPECIALLY from fucking DOOM games.
>(everybody here LOVES FEAR)
what has that to do with anything? FEAR didn't have upgrade / level up features.

>glory kills are brief
every single nu-Doom shill repeats this same mantra.

No, they are not "brief" when you repeat the same shit hundreds of times throughout the whole game. And don't even joke about them being """optional""", as the whole loot economy of the game is chained to GKs, totally eliminating item management and good chunk of the reason people actually looked for secrets in originals.

>>340189113
git gud, and git better gear. The starting guns are literal pea-shooters with no reach or accuracy.

Shit will become cash once you get a rifle + scope.
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>>340189039
starts at 8:50
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>>340189218
lol did you even play fear lol
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>>340189218
you can turn glory kills off m8
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>>340189218
Get a load of this tryhard moron.
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>>340189218
>he didnt upgrade his reflex in FEAR
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>>340189353
I already played the pre-release DEMO back in the days, and purchased the full game day 1. So take a wild guess.

>>340189439
No, you cannot.
Jesus christ people, either half of you morons are LITERALLY Zenimax shills, or have NOT PLAYED THE GAME.

You can ONLY disable the GLOW EFFECT that signals Glory Kill being possible. That's all!
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>>340189587
cool
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>>340189584
totally different sort of system, needs to be earned by finding secrets, and even then they are totally optional.

Meanwhile, D44M doesn't allow you to even move at decent speed, deal proper damage, or even carry more than some 20 shots at once, unless you spend hours in the goddamn upgrade menus.
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>>340189218
Why is there always one autist going off on a fucking tirade about glory kills?

They could have been disastrous, yes, but they were implemented in pretty fucking good. They're there to keep you constantly in the fight, nothing more, and they do the job damn well. I don't really see what there is to complain about in a game like DOOM where you HAVE to be in an enemies face all the fucking time.

>Fuck no. That cancer needs to be cut off of FPS genre once and for all. ESPECIALLY from fucking DOOM games.
Once again, could've been disastrous but it wasn't and was implemented very well. There is still an incentive to find secrets because they give you collectibles on top of health/armor/ammo pickups. Also, who the fuck uses that as their main incentive for secrets anyway? I want to find secrets regardless of what it is.
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Doom is dogshit
>>340189445
>>340189445
>>340189445
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am I the only one here who fucking LOVES the new Plasma Rifle? Jesus Christ that heat exhaust upgrade is fucking incredible how it just destroys EVERYTHING
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>>340184304
There was also F.E.A.R When it came to graphics
>tfw being 9 and everything was still possible and i had awesome doctor
>tfw these days only a shadow of formerself, with no bro as fuck of an doctor that approved my vidya
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>>340189768
Greentexted the wrong thing, but I'm sure you get what I was talking about.
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>>340189798
Same here, man. Even without upgrades the Plasma Rifle was a fucking monster, but it ripped through ammo so goddamn fast.
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>They won't allow access to the Well without a fight, but I'm sure that's exactly what you're lookng for, isn't it?
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>>340189768
There is more than one autist disliking those shitty glory kills, along with all the other mini cutscene bullshit being thrown in your face every 5 seconds.
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>>340189218
>That cancer needs to be cut off of FPS genre once and for all.
>Deus Ex
>inb4 Deus Ex is shit
Light RPG elements go along well in FPS games.
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>>340189798
The stun grenade makes pinkies so much easier to deal with.
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>>340190369
DE was pretty shit, and not exactly a shooter either.

Not everything in first-person perspective is a shooter. And games like DOOM do not benefit one bit of pointless upgrade systems; that's just lazy ass devs trying to both appeal to way too wide audiences, and not wanting to actually design a properly balanced arsenal and enemy set
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>>340189218
I love it when contrarian "no-fun-allowed" pseudo old-fags are sperging out.
Keep at it, bruh
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>>340190369
Deus Ex is not a shooter.
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>>340190239
So did doomguy just literally shut down hell for good now?
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>>340190294
You could not be more fucking over-dramatic if you tried.
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>>340190369
>deus ex
>FPS

but Moot said summer was a meme!
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>>340191001
He's done it like 5 times now, It'll be back.
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>>340189113
it was meant to simulate having a rusted to shit 40 year old russian made gun, later in the game you get better weapons
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>>340191001
That's what I don't get.
The demons magic comes from the Argent Well, so they can't use magic in the next game?
What the fuck are they going to have for the next game? Just pinkies?
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>>340191001
Nope, it's still going because Samuel Hayden still wants to harvest Argent Energy. It's also implied that there's other UAC facilities on Saturn and its moons so I guarantee there's outbreaks going on there as well. So I'm pretty sure you only stopped it on Mars.

We'll just have to wait and see where Doomguy got teleported at the end, though, but they would definitely not leave it on a cliffhanger like that if there wasn't more Hell to destroy.
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>>340191060
Moot is dead, you know that.
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>>340182542
It's better than Bioshock as far as I'm concerned. Bioshock was enjoyable for one playthrough. I've gone through Doom three times already and still want to play it again. It's the best shooter since Half Life 2 IMO.
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>>340191204
>Doomguy takes a solar system tour and shuts down hell on every planet
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>>340191060
>Deus Ex
>first-person
>have guns and can shoot them
>not a first-person shooter
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>>340191436
by your definition Dungeon Keeper is a first person shooter too!
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>>340190972
>>340191060
It can be if you choose to play it that way. Certainly not an RPG though, not enough role-playing opportunity for it to really fall into that category.
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>>340191402
>DG eventually goes to hell and just fucking destroys everything so people stop fucking with it
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>>340191402
>Super Doom Galaxy.
I'm down.
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>>340191436
so, if a game has platforms you can jump on, it's automatically a platformer? shut your whore mouth
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>>340191696
dunno why he didnt just do that before. That's what they said he did in 64
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>>340191727
what? you never played that awesome platformer Ultima 8?
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>>340191790
by destroy I mean complete removal from all planes of existence
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>>340191569
I always saw it as a stealth game with rpg elements (upgrades). You're right, it's not a RPG
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>>340191790
He didn't destroy Hell, he just stayed in Hell and killed any demon that arose.

I don't really think you can completely destroy Hell, I mean, it's an entire fucking dimension and as long as Argent energy is around it's gonna be around.
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>>340192162
Not only that but hell is kind of always a thing that exists as long as people exist. Evil people go to hell and negative feelings and dark deeds fester and create demons. That's a common trope I've seen in most settings
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>>340192162
is hell in Doomverse the same as hell in Christianity?
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>>340192162
>earth realizes doomguy is gonna wipe out their only source of argent energy and cause an energy crisis
>now the whole earth military force goes to try and stop doomguy from completely wiping out argent energy
>now doomguy has to fight demons AND the imperial army
>doomguy gets even angrier
>doomguy fistpunches tanks to death
at this rate doomguy is literally going to be the hulk with guns
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>>340192438
No, the demons are basically aliens.
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DOOM isn't literally the same game from over 20 years ago so it's terrible garbage.
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>>340192613
Anything from Christian Hell would be classified as aliens.
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>>340192546
no
he will be stronger
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>>340187052
This
Finished new order yesterday on über and it was satisfying as fuck
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>>340192683
Same goes for heaven really
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>>340192546

Doom Guy is the new Icon of Sin. The fucker fired rockets inside his head and took over Hell. eventually we'll get a sequel where the Doom Guy is the final boss injected with Berserk or something.
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>>340192801
Same goes for literally anything that isn't native t Earth.
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>>340190679
>>340192614

haha yeah me too upvoted
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>>340192852
and some things on earth too
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Can we at least agree that this game has the best OST of 2016 (thus far)?
Been a while since I've found an ost I've gone out of my way to download.
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>>340192693
was this game any good?
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>>340193053
Epic bro! r/feelthebern will love this!!!!

>>340193061
Oh yeah, the OST gets me so fucking hyped.
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>>340192920
>Some people made a b8 post! Better put together a horribly edited epic /v/ screencap
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>>340192920
>counter strike
>good
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>>340193061
Honestly the OST was the most disappointing part. It is very well done, but a bit monotonous.

The advertising made the game look boring but the music would surely be worth it.
It turns out the game was great, and the music was as good as imagined.
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>>340193304
you're right halo and cod are much better
fuck quake and your dadshooters
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>>340182542
I´m glad that so many people enjoy the new doom but it still fell flat to me.

especially the enemy and world design just didn´t do it for me.
everything looked generic and not really nightmarish hellish to me

but I guess I´m just in the minority here which is fine

not everything needs to fit my taste
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>>340187274
I wanted to love this game but no option to toggle ads in a fps is unforgivable.
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>>340193259
>anything that exposes /v/ as the casual dumpster it is must be just b8 posts
>also i'm a screencap conisuer

ok bro
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>get the unlimited ammo armor upgrade
>pull out muh lil chaingun
We easy mode now.
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>>340193198
>game

yes, very

fuck having to literally buy the final levels though
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>>340193481
Halo is more of an arena shooter than Counterstrike.
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>>340182542
>BioShock

That game's gameplay was ass. The only good thing about it is the setting.
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>>340183605

It's the best FPS since the recent Wolfenstein.

Half Life's gunplay is pure ass.
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>>340186251
oh yes it is good.
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>>340185575
SSG was the fallback weapon in doom 2 and it could kill at a distance.
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>>340193481
counter strike is just as bad as halo and cod
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>>340193496
Nah, I feel you on the creepy part. I was expecting the eerie pits of hell again but its not so spooky. Its a nice design and isn't a total deal breaker but a little disappointing. Maybe we're just getting to old for it.
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>>340193630
Both TNO and RtCW are kick ass games, what's the problem there?
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>>340183081
>doom 4
>expansive levels
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>>340193481

>dadshooters


You're such an idiot.

Much like CoD and Halo, CS requires zero skill except half decent aim.
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>>340185963
You sound like a salty consolecuck who only believes things they hear on 4chan.

Stay mad, enjoy knowing that consoles ruined what would've been a great series.
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>>340194138
B-but it's a PC game that means it's good!
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>>340193903

And? The weapon balance of both games are different.
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>>340194107
They were.
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>>340194265

Who the fuck would play a console shooter?
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>>340182542

In terms of mechanics Bioshock is retard tier
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>>340189218
You're such a fuck head, you don't have to perform the glory kills. You can do them once in awhile, but you don't have to do it. If your health is low then you could.
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>>340194138
Nice bait.
>what is movement skills
>what is grenade throws
>what is teamwork
>what is recoil compensation
>what is economy
>what is strats
>what is positioning

Only reason cs is hated here is cause it takes a while to git gud at CS and to have a team.
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>>340182542
Bioshock 2 was better than Bioshock
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>>340194452

>playing video games on a literal typewriter
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>>340194564
All of what you said applies to console shooters too.
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>>340194421
Nah.
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I didn't play D44m but BioShock is a pretty terrible FPS.
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>>340194564

>movement skills

Stopped reading immediately. Go play Quake Live if you want to learn about movement skills that involved more than walking in a straight line.
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>>340186609
Incorrect. It takes at least 14 shots of the SSG to kill a Mastermind, which can be 1 shot by a BFG.

A top end SSG shot is comparable to a Top end Rocket, without the splash damage. BFG is essentially both a rocket (Single hard hitting projectile) and shotgun(40 tracers) combined.
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>>340194696
Then you're blind as hell, some of the levels were pretty fucking big.
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>>340194673

The only thing that PC gaming ensures is carpal tunnel and an absent social/romantic life.
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>>340194421
The Foundry was, the rest were pretty much room after room.
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>>340194868
You're wrong.
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>>340194673
You obviously have not played CS for more than half a hour.

Don't even get me started. It's hilarious to see consolebabbies compare console version to PC version and say console version is better.
Like in siege people say "console version best pc is for cucks" and yet they need a minute to shoot at camera.
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>>340194850
This. CS doesn't deserve to be held up with much better PC FPS games.
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>>340194850
>le ebin i play quake therefor I know everything about every game

Call me when you have enough info to compare movement of both games other than memes
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>>340182542
Serious Sam 3 is better than Doom.
You don't fight only 4 enemies at a time in SS3.
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>>340194006
the last game that I feel had really scary demons and hell was Jericho

I guess it´s because it had went with a buckets of blood/flesh theme and used religious symbols
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>>340182542

All FPS games are intrinsically casual.

If you want a challenge try getting half-way through Super Ghouls & Ghosts.
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>Bioshock
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>>340194869
I have carpal from gamedev and my social and romantic life is quite busy.
Not to mention all the great games I can play and how PC users and console ones can never play togehter because it's completely onesided fight.
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>>340194964
Everything except economy is found in your average console FPS though.
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>>340194564
>what is movement skills
>what is grenade throws

holy shit CS really is for babbies
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>>340195028

Underage please perish
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>>340195070

nah I don't call redditors with shit taste

sorry
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>>340195145
Ok. Call me when you can get a kill in Q3 against ESL player.

I'm not even going to bother leaving a number
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>>340194912
Wrong, you're wrong.

>>340194902
You're wrong, too.
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>>340195146
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>>340195202
Sure, show me how you stutterstep and quickscope HS someone with a scout on console.
You people can't even hit a camera on Siege
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>>340194964
You do realise, CS was the "console shooter" of it's day, right?

Like how everyone shat on Halo and then COD for being dumbed down infested with children, that was the original Counter Strike as well.

The only difference being, is that these Counter Strike children are now in their mid 20's and are now revising history.
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>>340194564
>what is movement skills

Indeed what is movement in Counter Strike

You tried your meme arrows and fucked up immediately
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While I liked new Doom, I'd have to say Farcry Primal is a better FPS.
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>>340195070

I've played CS. It's just Action Quake 2 / Urban Terror slowed down for dumb people.
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>>340182542
that wouldnt be hard since last good fps was hl2

it's shit anyway
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>>340195538
Yes, I remember that time well since I was playing UT at the time.
CS does actually have quite complicated mechanics and it is a hard game to learn and it's teambased unlike quake
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>>340195579
Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
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>>340195543
It's obvious you never got good.
It's okay not to like something
It's entirely different to be a babby on 4chan and shitpost
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>>340195408
Nope. You're wrong.
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>>340195627
>CS does actually have quite complicated mechanics and it is a hard game to learn
>mfw

It's funny that you have no idea that Quake has team based modes too. You are such an underage faggot.
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>>340185810
I was very pleasantly surprised by this one. I had not played an FPS in a while when I picked it up cheap on a Steam Sale, and killing the Nazis was a lot of fun.
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>>340195801
Except nobody plays it competetively
Quake is dead, no more ESL matches
this makes me sad, it was amazing to watch
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>it's a Quakefag would rather bitch about literally every other FPS than play his dead game episode
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Wolfenstein: The New Order was better. In fact that's the best FPS of this gen aside from Rainbow Six Siege.
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>>340195912

It's sad that Quake Live got casualized.
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Been thinking of getting D44M because I love the originals. Is it any good on xbox one?
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>>340196013

>it's a CSfag is so butthurt he needs to have a passive aggressive cry about it episode
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>>340195080
SS3 was garbage compared to D44M and this is coming from a guy who loved SS3. It's just kind of a rushed salvaged mess, D44M is more polished and consistent and also more fun. Also it has actual color in it and isn't ugly as sin to look at with faded washed out colors
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>>340196015
I really hope this is bait, otherwise you have one of the shittiest opinions I've seen in a long time.
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>>340196013
>It's a children who were not alive when the original Doom games came out think Doom(2016) is a good game episode
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>>340187560
>plasma rifle a shit
Stun bomb was fucking great, at least in nightmare mode.

>that rune for infinite ammo at 75 armor
>that rune for improved item power so leech grenade also restores armor at full health
>that rune to get armor drops from glory kills (optional really)
>fully upgrade chaingun turrent's mod
>mow down every fucking living thing non-stop at full armor
>under 75 armor
>herd 3 or 4 guys together
>stun bomb
>x2 leech grenades
>back in business mother fuckers
And you get to do this in a second, the whole weapon quick swap is amazing.
Feels really op once you learn encounters spawn patterns, but even so the slightest mistake can set you back by a lot, specially on later levels.
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>Fighting enemies while I'm supposed to be destroying VEGA's cooling system.
>Hop on a jumppad and accidentally climb over the electric fence
>Walk away as enemies keep swarming the place, then hop on the train and ride away.

At least I got a backup of him.
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>>340196015
I liked TNO, but c'mon now.
DOOM has less cutscene bullshit, faster pace, better weapons etc.
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>>340196232
Why can't you like both?
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>>340196232

That's retarded. I'm 36, and I love both.
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>>340196161
I'd be butthurt if my game was dead, but it's not. Though I don't really play CS nowadays.

>>340196181
BFE has color if you play it with "vivid" filter. And, well, it's a different game. At least you can have more than 12 enemies at a time.

>>340196232
I was actually alive (I was born in 1986) and I haven't played D44m yet (but it doesn't look bad for me, SP that is, don't care about MP at all).
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>>340196109
>Been thinking of getting D44M because I love the originals

The game is nothing like the originals though, you'll be buying it because you're a consumerist sheep, throwing money at something because it has a brand name you recognise.
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>First time getting the chaingun
>Wow this is pretty shit, the spin up makes it nearly useless
>Go for the spin upgrade because I thought sentry mode would make you stationary
>It's still lackluster
>mfw finally getting the sentry mode upgrade
>mfw unlocking the cool down upgrade

This thing is a fucking beast.
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>>340196424
>I was born in 1986

it shows
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>>340196772
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>>340182975
Kek.
Um, no. It looks dated, and it runs like arse, even on modern hardware. The AI is god-awful, and overly precise, and the game's plot is incredibly predictable. Gunplay is also unsatisfying, and the game has a fairly retarded stealth system. The only reason it got positive reviews, was because it looked great, visually.
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>>340196889
The AI is good on Delta and it has one of the best shotguns ever.
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>>340196424
I played it with the vivid filter on anon, it's actually the first thing I did when buying it on release day. Still a good game but not as good as D44M because it's unpolished as hell. Enemy variety doesn't matter for much if you get bored of being in an ugly wasteland of brown and bloom.
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>>340189587
OR you can be a faggot and limit yourself by not using glory kills.
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>>340196232
>it's a faggot who played doom back in the day thinks he is the only one who did episode
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>>340195080
>didn't even make it to the Foundry

Look at this baby.
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>>340196181
Doom isn't more fun. Fighting 5 enemies at a time max isn't fun as fighting dozens.

>washed out color
Should've just changed the color pallet to vivid in the options.
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>>340196991
From what I seen of D44m, I doubt I'd like it more than BFE, but it's okay if your opinion is different.
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>>340196181
eww nice meme bruh
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How would it run on a GTX 760 + i7 3770 @1680x1050?
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Well for one, Bioshock isn't a good FPS.

DOOM is a great single player FPS though - probably one of the greatest, even compared to the original.

The Metro games and Wolfenstein are also great examples, if only for how great their gunplay is.
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>>340194564
>is
>are

seriously tho, stay in school son.
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>>340195720
I wasn't shitposting.

I just felt like responding to your toxic post. Your knowledge of the fps genre is pathetic it irritates people.

The reason why people around here don't like CS and it's community is because of people like you.
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>>340182542
Enemies take twice as many shots to kill as in the original and fighting some enemies can become tedious, but its still a good game. 8/10
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>>340197290
If you're okay with running it on medium, then yes.
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>>340196991
I'd like to know your opinion on how to make modern apocalytic Egypt NOT boring, yellow and brown.
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>>340197414
>toxic

Why don't you report him?
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>>340196181
>D44M
>Any more color than SS3
W E W
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Watch these side by side, for proof of hour garbage Doom 4 is in comparison to the original games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd04twsxosc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWkxWWmnyxc
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>>340196109
Get it on PC. Too fast for a controller.
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>>340189218
FEAR kicked ass dude, no shit most people on a videogame board loved it.
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>>340197414
>I just felt like responding to your toxic post
>toxic
Oh shit, Polygon are in this thread.Going to show off some more of your FPS skills?
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>>340196181
SS3 wasn't that bad, you're just overreacting now. And you also compare two different games with different budgets and human resources.
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>>340195080
>Serious Sam
>I like it when my crosshair has parkinson
That shit triggers the fuck out of me and makes me mad beyond belief. Fuck every game that doesn't have a static crosshair, including DOOM's epileptic moments.
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>>340197739
>d44m I'm too young to die
>d2 UV
Is that really a fair comparison.
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>>340197698
From that judgement I assume that you've only watched the trailers.
the VEGA level is rather colourful.
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>>340197753
I bought it on my ps4 because my pc sucks massive dicks, plays fine.
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>>340191705
>Doom Galaxy
Fuck, fight hell on alien worlds and shit? badass.
Although exploring the other UAC facilities would be badass. I am still holding out for DLC that has other humans being alive. Like Haydens exploration in hell, that would be cool.
Or a final stand section for the security forces in Lazarus
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Why doesn't it support crossfire?
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>>340198331
You can turn on the stable crosshair in some of these glorious menu settings.
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>>340198423
It's actually done in Doom 4's benefit.
Here's a Nightmare comparison then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q3QDmOMnNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ic-ycsaDw0
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>>340199332
That's neat.
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>>340197753
Not really, if you up the sensitivity it works well
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>>340197562
That's kind of why it was a bad decision to have the game in modern Egypt. They use the excuse that it's a parody of modern shooters, but I'd rather play something similar to the original SS games rather than an ugly modern setting with random aliens thrown around and realistic weapons. Croteam just can't seem to get a good medium between too realistic in SS3 and too goofy in SS2. It's kind of annoying
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>>340197753
I got through Nightmare on PS4 with only a little trouble.
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>>340197739
>speedrunners
Just as cancerous as trophy whores.
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>>340200514
They already found it with Talos.
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