Video games in 2016
It can't succeed.
Not because it's fun, but because it's not fun.
>>340130737
Of course it can, video games only succeed because they are fun
FUN?
What's that
why is /v/ so mad that overwatch is a success. it really is one of the best MP games in years.
>>340130737
>2016
>anything team and class based with objectives is called a MOBA
>>340131094
If you play multiplayer games you don't belong here.
>>340131143
found myself arguing with my friends that ow was more like tf2 than like lol
>>340131094
Extremely dumbed down Activision-Blizzard copy of an existing game with F2P-style micro transactions despite being full price.
>>340131094
Because Blizzard is a puppet for Activision to sell things with the Blizzard brand, and they should not, under any circumstances, be trusted to make a game anymore since there's a strong chance they'll phone in the development in the knowledge you'll buy their products regardless.
And yet /v/ bought the game and even pre-ordered it and talks about Blizzard being "based" as though they aren't about to sell you more trash ASAP.
>>340131094
It really does look terrible from the concept art to the character designs to those cartoon promos.
>>340131094
>One of the best MP games in years
More like months, there's been plenty of other good MP games, ogrewatch really isn't bringing anything new to the table but it's alright.
>>340131639
>>340131501
You are mistaking overwatch with battleborn
>>340130737
>implying it ain't all about the skins and "well, at least it's something my friends'll play"
Thank G-d, I didn't fall for the overwatch hype and am an absolute loser with few friends.
I guess it's a good thing I don't read Forbes because of their adblock killswitch. sounds like garbage writing.
>>340131759
I am referring to the one with the chick in orange tight pants and goggle and the fat blue chick in an Eskimo outfit along with others.
>>340131094
V hates good games. it's just the meta.
>>340132013
If you don't know how to actually customize your adblock you're a fucking moron and you deserve to have ads shoved in your face and your money taken away from you because you're so lazy.
>>340131392
Not a single thing you listed is actually a thing that's wrong with the game though. That list of buzzwords is interchangeable to any Blizzard game you haven't played.
>>340131094
it costs money
>"Fun"
>when a lot of the community are insufferable assfaggots and tryhards
autismos kill FUN and replace it with METAGAME
>>340130737
It's need more than just being "fun". I want an immersive and deep story that is a life changing event for the gamer in question. Or a commentary on the current affairs of Gun laws and the meaning of existence as we know it. I want something beyond the scope of mere games.
>inb4 retards try claiming fun is objective
>>340132104
What the fuck is V?
>>340132470read a book instead
>>340130995
F is for friends that do stuff together.
U is for you and me
N is for anyone at anytime at all.
>>340133007
What? No it's not.
F is for fire, burns down the whole town.
U is for uranium bombs.
N is for no survivors when you
I can't wait until GoT fucks off.
>>340131304
It's not Blizzard's fault if retards spend $100 on boxes for nothing but cosmetics.
>>340131094
actually overwatch is objectively one of the worst multiplayer games in the last decade, especially multiplayer fps games
every single multiplayer fps game is far better gameplay wise than overwatch, and far more fun as well. hell, even destiny is better than overwatch. FUCKING DESTINY - one of the worst flops in modern gaming - is far better than overwatch in every single way (except waifus).
no one plays overwatch because they like it or because they think it is a good game. it is neither, and it's players openly acknowledge as much. the only reason people play is because of waifus and blizzard marketing.
![bane-the-dark-knight-rises-tom-hardy-31412665-535-364[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vMn3vma.jpg "bane-the-dark-knight-rises-tom-hardy-31412665-535-364[1].jpg")
>>340133007
>>340133119
F is for the Flight Plan. it lists me, my men, dr. pavel here, but only one of you.
U is For You.
N is for Noone, who cared who i was before i put on the mask.
>>340133601
>the only reason people play is because of waifus and blizzard marketing.
that, and the skinner box mechanics that get people addicted to the random drops and item crates. it's basically gambling.
WHERE'S THE STORY, /v/?
WHERE ARE THE MATURE THEMES THAT TACKLE CONTEMPORARY ISSUES THAT OUR SOCIETY DEALS WITH EVERY DAY?
WHY DOESN'T OVERWATCH ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE?
UGH!
>>340133767
yep, exactly. and gambling on loot crates for cosmetics is bad enough in an f2p, but in a full b2p game it's fucking disgusting.
>>340131979
Thank you for censoring G-d.
>>340133870
But it does!
>Mei is a scientist who has taken the fight to preserve the environment into her own hands. Though many blamed the planet's escalating, unexplained climate phenomena on the advent of new technologies, the rapidly growing omnic population, and drastically increased consumption of resources, the true cause remained unknown. To find a solution, Overwatch established a series of eco-Watchpoints at remote, critical locations worldwide.
>>340130737
>>340134106
>the true cause remained unknown
Fucking republican game.
>>340130737
I agree with him. It needs to be fun AND have good amount of content, especially for a multiplayer shooter.
>>340132104
what is V
baby don't rekt me
don't bait me
no moot
>>340131094
>Guys /v/ is totally mad that Overwatch is a success
>Meanwhile in reality, there are always 2 or 3 Overwatch threads on /v/ full of nonstop praising of the game.
I think you mean why is /v/ constantly praising Overwatch. That's the real question. Why do people treat it like its the newest freshest game concept in years?
>>340131094
>it really is one of the best MP games in years
Give us your reasons.
Battleborn would be more fun if people just threw games so the losing team could feel better.
Overwatch is fun, but that's sort of all it has going for it. Heroes of the Storm is also fun, but it has no real staying power insofar as being competitive. Overwatch can probably survive way longer than HoTS, but the competitive scene for that game is dead.
![.eJwFwdENhSAMAMBdGIC2SLG4DUGCJioE6pd5u7-7z7zjMps5VPvcAPZz5jZ2O7WNVIutrdWrpH5Om9sNSTXl4y6PTpDgODghlLjygiJAItEjo6yIjhbnI5APTMQueKZg-1PN7w-dmSJA.GlQ3uLj3k2SSk1qEUAKFihLmEos[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/q9vCHLG.png ".eJwFwdENhSAMAMBdGIC2SLG4DUGCJioE6pd5u7-7z7zjMps5VPvcAPZz5jZ2O7WNVIutrdWrpH5Om9sNSTXl4y6PTpDgODghlLjygiJAItEjo6yIjhbnI5APTMQueKZg-1PN7w-dmSJA.GlQ3uLj3k2SSk1qEUAKFihLmEos[1].png")
So all in all, what do the sales numbers of overwatch look like compared to Battleborn?
I'm generally curious
>>340134145
>VIDEO GAMES NEED TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE
>MORE WOMEN! MORE MINORITIES
Ok.
>YOU'RE JUST EXPLOITING MINORITIES AND WOMEN FOR YOUR VIDEO GAMES TO GET OUR MONEY!
I give up.
>>340131094
>guise, why are you mad tf2 repackaged with microtrans and shittier gameplay is being sold on fake "fun" hype, waifus, and studio name merit only?
Because it's literally killing video games in a way only Halo could when it made gamepad fps a thing.
>>340130913
Go away, you poor excuse for a chipmunk.
>>340135004
About that.
>>340131279
same.
>it has abilities! of course it's LoL-inspired!
when was the last time /v/ was right about literally anything?
/v/ thought Hearthstone was going to be a flop and /v/ thought MGS5 was going to be good
>>340135459
>sales
>seven million
but that's wrong
businesswire.com/news/home/20160602006554/en
players=/=sales. most of that is double counting and beta players.
Yes, BB is shit, but OW having 7m sales? kek no
>TF2's competitive scene barely scraped by for years
>b-but guys, if the game doesn't have a strong competitive scene then it's just going to die!
>>340135661
I remember when the Undertale demo first came out and people were jizzing all over it. Look at them now and laugh
>>340135708
>it's not successful guys
keep thinking that
>>340130737
>Forbes
Wait, wasn't that a respectful business magazine?
No it need a retarded progression system straight out of bf3 micro transactions and garbage tier esports.
>>340135958
Believe it or not for a while it was also the only respectable gaming journalism too. We're seeing a sinking ship
> I prefer Team Fortress
>>340135739
Really fucking sad desu, TF2 has more skillful and enjoyable-to-watch competitive than any of the mediocre excuses for FPSes in the forefront today (CSGO, CoD)
>>340135958
Not in years
>>340133601
No people play it because they enjoy it. If you're incapable of understanding that people have different opinions to you, then you are literally autistic.
>>340136038
It literally doesn't matter
The only thing that matters is the money and Valve did jack shit about injecting money into the scene
>>340136213
I'm not autistic
They're the retards for playing a shit game
>>340136228
Melee had more suppression than support for most of its life (not to mention being generally really autistic and hard to get into) and it's got a huge competitive scene, I think FPS players are just conditioned to eat shit.
>>340133695
>U is for Y
You can't spell shit nigga
>>340136213
no, they do not enjoy it. they play it for the waifus only.
>different opinions than me
nothing i said was an opinion. this is an objective fact. no one plays overwildstar because they like it, and every multiplayer fps released in the last decade in far better than overwildstar in every way (except waifus and cosmetics gambling).
>>340133601
>no one plays overwatch because they like it or because they think it is a good game.
o-oh
Okay, I'll just keep playing Overwatch with my friends and keep having fun. You have fun with your memes :^)
>>340133601
>the only reason people play is because of waifus and blizzard marketing
Wrong. I'm gay as fuck and don't give two shits about the girls. And there's no qt twinks so they haven't pandered to me yet. I legitimately enjoy the game. It's fun.
>>340135804
Except it isn't. I'm glad OW is finally getting purged on /v/
>>340136728
Overwatch is currently the most watched on Twitch m8
>>340136778
Both of those were taking during American hours. Yuropoors have no say in anything.
>>340136565
Yeah I'm not going to waste time arguing with an autist. Suffice to say people like different things wether or not you choose to acknowledge it.
And on the off chance your minder is reading this, you really shouldn't be letting this guy browse 4chan.
>>340136836
Overwatch at this exact moment in time is pretty much tied with league on viewers.
Since when is viewer retention on the cancer that is twitch a benchmark for a good game anyway?
Holy shit.
>>340136728
I noticed the streamers are getting increasingly frustrated with the game now
Wonder how much longer this game will last
>>340136565
spotted the butthurt Gearbox shill
>>340136728
All AAA games get 80K+ viewers at launch.
>That many people still watch Heartstone
The only thing more boring than playing that shit is watching someone else play it.
>>340130913
Whoa, but it is fun. I bought it so I would know.
>>340136728
You again?
Wasn't your thread deleted just now?
>>340135708
I don't think Blizzard would try to do that in a press release, they're a public company and will release actual numbers at their quartery earnings report.
We'll find out in August for certain in their Q2 reports.
>>340137059
I saved that image, not everyone who posts facts is the same person.
Might get it on PS4 when it gets a bit cheaper. Does it run well on it?
>started off playing video games aggressively/competitively
>then i started playing video games just to have fun
>tfw i don't play video games anymore
>>340136985
>semen remaining
>fingerless glove meter
always slays me
>>340137116
I see.
Good luck with spreading facts for unaware masses.
>>340137213
Yep. Model quality is noticably worse, but not by a huge margin. Enjoyable.
>>340136728
>>340133601
>objectively
You a shit
>>340137116
>facts
well go to twitch and see how wrong your "fact" is
>>340137942
>16k viewers
holy shit dead game
I thought dota was more popular in yurop too
>>340138046
>yurop viewers
>EVER mattering
Keep crying faggot
>>340136728
Haha yeah now we can talk about DEEP COMPETITIVE GAMES like DOTA, LOL and HEARTHSTONE!!!!
>>340136484
>N being for Anywhere and Any time at all
You're a pikey
>>340138071
You'd think. Turns out people in lower income areas don't have the time to waste watching others play video games.
>>340131145
I'm of the exact opposite opinion. Casual.
>>340130967
This. I know some twats in school trying to say that games should be this or that like art and that having fun games are obsolete thinking.
Who the fuck buys things they don't enjoy/have fun with?
>>340138071
>I thought dota was more popular in yurop too
it's 9am here
Imagine if splatoon just came out. How would they defend Overwatch?
>>340131094
Because it's a blatant rip off of a Valve game released back in 2007. Valve should sue acti-vivendi-bliz
>>340130737
This is some 'fun is a buzzword' shit
>>340137942
I'm honestly surprised that Hearthstone has that many fucking views. Game is boring as hell to play, even more boring to fucking watch.
>>340136728
>posting doto viewer numbers from during the middle of manilla major playoffs
kek
>>340136717
What about Lucio, Hanzo, and Genji?
>>340131639
The kind of girl who's life decisions sway on a videogame character would never be able to complete first year of any medical course.
>>340130737
One thing I realised lately is that whenever people name individual developers today it's very rarely the level designer, the lead programmer or any other positions that pertain to gameplay, but the writers.
>>340136728
Perhaps a lot of those viewers went and bought the game to play themselves?
I would have already if I had the cash to spare
>>340133870
>I want video games to be just as ugly as real life
Fucking pseudo-journalists.
>>340130737
> playing games because of the fun
He doesn't understand the competitive part of games
The primary purpose of video games is not to be fun.
The primary purpose of video games is as a platform of expression for the game's trans* developer.
Of course it's fun, people have been playing TF2 for years.
Actually, when's the last time that Blizzard did anything remotely original?
>HotS is a dumbed down version of DotA/LoL
>Hearthstone is an EXTREMLY dumbed down version of Magic the Gathering
>Overwatch is TF2 (which was already pretty casual)
>new shitty updates of their old IPs (Warcraft/WoW, SC2, D3)
>>340140716
>trans
But what about muh PoC
muh feminism
muh social justice
muh feelings
fucking triggered.
>>340140821
The thing is that their dumbed down versions are much more fun to play than what they're copying, because the features that they're stripping out have become tedious with time.
>>340130995
A buzzword.
>>340131094
>so mad
>if you criticism my company you are le mad
>deflecting criticism on imaginary description of people who make them
>>340140894
>blizzdrones
HS will never have 1% of the depth that MtG does.
HotS was such a joke with it's no gold, no items, no local experience and homogeneous hero design that even diehard drink the coolaid Blizzard fanboys laughed at it.
>>340140832
Check your privilege.
Those groups of marginalized people have the privilege of their condition (being a female, being a PoC) being outside of their control and have already duly received compensation ( affirmative action, alimony ) from society.
trans* is a thing people choose to become so for some weird reason society doesn't think this group does not deserve compensation for it yet...
THIS needs to change
Trans* developers should be given tax money to develop games and people should be forced to buy them (automatic purchases on Steam)
>>340130967
Yeah, you're supposed to enjoy playing a video game, I don't understand "modern gaming".
>>340141126
It's not a matter of depth, it's a matter of fun.
MtG isn't fun anymore. It's a boring game with overloaded rules and constantly introduced expansions that ruin everything. Not to mention an appalling digital version. Blizzard just went "wow, they're really being shit, let's steal their market", and they did.
It doesnt matter how much depth your game has if it's simply not fucking fun to play.
>>340140116
>acti-vivendi-blizz
you are three years behind on your shitposting
after a few months you should just lurk a bit to get updated parroting phrases
game is fun but
1. needs more maps
2. needs multiple arcade modes because this super shimata mode is shit
No, not on that alone anyways. Overwatch is largely successful because it had a massive amount of marketing.
>>340132210
And can't be pirated, which means 95% of /v/ can't/won't play it and obviously that means it's shit
>>340131639
She's going to be very disappointed when she finds out practising medicine isn't shooting people with magic heal guns.
>>340130737
Times like this is when the anon that said "fun is a buzzword" is actually correct.
You can't meassure fun since the concept of fun is completely dependant on the enjoyment of the player. Hence why some games are "fun" for some and not for others.
It being "fun" is not what makes it succeed, but many other factors like simplicity, art style, etc.
>>340141126
>ultima online, the best online MMO bar none, shits the bed and refuses to adapt to the modern market
Blizzard makes wow to capitalize on everyone who wasn't allowed to play the "cool" game and ends up overshadowing everyone from that point before and after
>magic the gathering, the best TCG bar none, shits the bed by refusing to adapt to the modern market
Blizzard makes hearthstone to captialize on everyone who wasnt allowed to play the "cool" game and ends up overshadowing the competiton from that point onward
>league of legends and dota 2 are extremely ridgid as well, have not adapted to change
blizzard is a bit better about their game but seeing as the entire genre is casualized to fuck theres very few people that are marginalized from playing the competiton so they only get a high success as opposed to a sweeping complete 10 year monopoly
>shooters such as call of duty are too casual to be taken seriously but the "good" shooters like csgo and all that old shit like quake are very unapproachable, making a marginalized market, AND tf2 has actively shit the bed and has refused to update
oh gee i wonder why Overwatch was made
>>340136565
What kind of shit are you on? I play because I like it and it doesn't take itself seriously. Its just a chill shooting game. I could care less about waifu shit.
>>340136728
Streamers are literally cancer and fuck anyone who thinks it's worth a damn
>>340130737
>fun
Some people had fun watching the twilight movies
Just putting that out there
>>340134887
Honestly they might be a tumbler tart but ve got a point.
It's an inherent problem with any multiplayer competitive game. The hard-core players get such mad skills the new player simply can't live long enough that to get gud. Online matches just become slaughters.
Not sure how to fix it though, maybe they should give high-level players ability to handicap yourself for extra skins or some thing?
>>340130737
>overwatch succed because fun
>not because Blizzard bribed other AAA developer to not release anything this month or the next month
>"Is "Overwatch" the new "Titanfall"?
>Article by Erik Kain
>>340130737
more like
> Video game journalism in 2016
>>340131639
jesus fucking christ.
>>340140116
it's like they're not allowed to be unoriginal or something, despite the fact that it's difficult to really be original anymore.
I'd rather have a fun unoriginal game than an unfun original game.
>>340130737
>we've come to a point where simply being fun is a novelty
>>340130737
>>340131639
>>340134145
>>340135040
>>340135459
Games journalism has gotten so frustrating
These people do not represent fucking nematodes let alone video game enthusiasts
>>340131639
>How maining Reaper made me want to become a serial killer
>>340135135
>implying tf2 doesn't have microtransactions as well
>implying tf2 isn't actually worse because you can buy gameplay altering stuff with real money instead of stuff that is purely cosmetic
>>340131639
>>340131712
>>340140495
>>340143785
>>340146938
I hope you're all just pretending to be retarded when you say you believe this article to be real
>>340133601
Assertion without evidence?
I don't even like Overwatch.
>>340147754
Sidegrades that take no effort to attain. Sure, whatever. It's still not a full priced game with microtransactions.
>>340131094
you just answered your question sempai
>>340130737
what more do these people want? it's full of women, trannies, queers niggers, dune coons, spics and nips, it's a fucking united nations of degenerates and untermensch jesus what is these people's problem?
>>340144053
>they only get a high success as opposed to a sweeping complete 10 year monopoly
Hots is dead and done bro, it's not "a high success" at all.
>>340147754
>gameplay altering stuff with real money
weapons gets dropped for free, unless you mean that unusuals/stranges somehow change the gameplay
>>340131639
>BuzzFeed reporter
>Medical school
looooooooooooooooooooooooooool
>>340131639
someone call for ze doctor?
>>340131639
this is fake b t w
>>340137069
>will release actual numbers at their quartery earnings report.
they stopped doing that with WoW
>>340144053
>shooters like csgo and all that old shit like quake are very unapproachable
>old shit like quake
>unapproachable
Are you fucking retarded? The whole reason why Q3 got so popular to begin with is because it was extremely easy to get into. OW is more like Q3 than TF2.
>>340130737
It worked for Splatoon, I think
>>340150121
OW is more like Dota 2. Reminder you think this is like Quake.
>>340150520
>I haven't played the game, but I've seen webms!
Wow, you're so cool, anon. Only projectile weapons get a headbox crutch, and really, I hope they'll nerf this shit, Hanzo is McRee grade cancer.
>Reminder you think this is like Quake.
Reminder that you've never played Quake. It had very generous hitboxes even for railgun, that's why rocket launcher was so fun to use.
>>340131094
>it really is one of the best MP games in years.
>the best MP games in years
>best MP games
>in years
Explain please.
>>340135040
This is shopped, surely?
>>340150829
>that's why rocket launcher was so fun to use.
Rocket launcher deals splash you inbred and the hitbox in Quake are perfect fucking kill yourself.
>>340150451
>implying it wasn't the genius marketing
YOU'RE A KID NOW
>>340131143
who's this semen demon?
>>340150986
>Rocket launcher deals splash
>Shitter literally admitting to not being able to get direct hits
Holy fuck go home.
>>340147780
I think it says something about games journalism that at this point people can believe such articles are real
>>340151093
>argument is about shit tier hitboxes in OW and how its not like quake
>you try to shift the topic
Why do Blizzcucks always argue that way?
>>340150986
>splash damage
Are you dumb or what? I'm talking about hitting a person with a rocket, not shooting the ground.
>hitbox in Quake are perfect
So now you're saying OW hitboxes are perfect? Make up your mind, anon.You had a chance to give OW a t during a fucking year of beta. have fun shitting on the game while having no experience with it yourself, but it's really the closes thing to good old Q3/UT99/2004 we ever got, just with TF2 game modes and fun classes.
>>340131639I decided to go to law school after playing Ace AttorneyI'm one semester away from graduatingI don't regret anything
>>340137039
That could also be said about dota and lol
or any game ever
>>340151296
>he thinks I don't play OW
I do and I admit it's not good mate.
>closes thing to good old Q3/UT99/2004
nope you never played Quake or UT nigger if you did you would know OW is nothing like Quake or UT.
>>340151462
>I do and I admit it's not good mate.
Sure you do. Sad.
>y-you never played Q or UT
You're saying this after getting told for having zero knowledge on hitboxes in those games? Cute, I bet you think Q3 and UT had tickrate above 30 too.
>>340146350
>The hard-core players get such mad skills the new player simply can't live long enough that to get gud
lmao
no
git gud
if anything playing with people like that will just make you better faster unless you are retard fuck who has hard time learning things in the first place
>>340151584
not the anon you replied to, but you're trying too hard now
>>340131304
>better more utilized classes instead of heavy medic every round
>complaining about microtransactions for cosmetics when its competitor sells side grades that actually affect gameplay
>>340151681
>not the anon you replied to
>tries to cover up by not using full stop and capital letters
Getting sadder by the minute.
>>340132086
whats so bad about them, what specfically makes the design actually bad other than muh graphix
>>340132013
are you still complaining about this. Everyone told you in the other threads to just use ublock origin. it can actually block what your shitty blocker cant block
>>340132470
pls kill yourself and every cancerous faggot that spouts the same views. You are what's wrong with games right now.
>>340135661
In all fairness Hearthstone is a piece of shit regardless of whether or not it's successful and MGSV should have been good
>>340151462
>winston
>bastion
>reaper
>tracer
end yourself
>>340135040
Wow, it's almost like different people have different opinions.
>>340133601
>objectively
>b
>j
>e
>c
>t
>v
>e
>l
>y
When will this meme die?
The only people that dont like it can't afford it.
Prove me wrong.
>>340151789
kys
>>340136728
>rate a video game by how much people WATCH someone playing it
twitch was a mistake
kill yourself
>>340136728
its only active on burger time because they have shit taste in everything.
>>340156493
>Game is called Overwatch
>It's currently UnderwatchedYeah, it's stupid. For more than one reason two. All the games beating it were having major tournies at the time. That brings in a lot of viewers.
>>340157894
>For more than one reason two
Did I have a stroke? Too.
Waifus are OK as long the west does it
>>340146350
The solution is get good or die. If you have a competitive game, then undermining the competition undermines your game's reason for existing.
I didn't quit as a level 1 in Dirty Bomb when I got facerolled by a Level 8 Vassili, and I site don't as a Level 8 getting shit on by a level 77 Proxy. You lose because you aren't good enough, so either play to learn before you play to win or pack up your toys and pceEZ.
personally, i just don't have any desire at all to play team fortress too!
i played that game for quite a while about a decade ago, and overwatch is the exact same thing, just published by blizzard, so it attracts a bigger and more rabid userbase
>>340140116
>Valve invented class based FPS
