Was there anything in Dark Souls 3 that came close?
No.
Nope. And I haven't even played Bloodborne
Dark Souls 3 is incapable of the kind of buildup, scenario, and atmosphere that The Old Hunters has because it's too busy referencing every other game in the series.
>>340107463
The problem with Dark Souls 3 is that it's always referencing itself and is self aware which kills the mystery and atmosphere and makes you remember you're playing a video ge where Bloodborne sucked you in and becomes your reality.
I'm stuck on him at the moment.
After several attempts I finally made it to the second phase and got utterly smoked.
Taking a break for awhile but holy shit hes tough.
The bosses sucked desu senpai.
>>340108384
What is Nameless King? You should really stop sucking Bloodbornes dick so much you daft fuck
>>340107463
No. There probably never will be. It's their magnum opus.
>>340109008
>What is Nameless King?
A decent fight in a game nearly devoid of them, nothing remarkable in a vacuum.
>>340109008
a joke boss at the end of the worst area in the game
>>340109008
>What is Nameless King?
A hell of a lot easier than Orphan.
Him being two boss fights in a row is the only remarkable thing about Nameless.
>>340109008
>muh hard
It could've been done much better, considering everything the character carries. Not to mention that first phase.
>>340109008
Also, I'm glad that FROM is churning out two DLCs for DS3 while BB is finished
>>340107463
No, but there was in 2
>>340107463
looks like a skeleton with a giant club, how can that be so hard?
Multiplat ruins games
>>340109008
You can beat him without rolling and phase 1 is more cinematic than challenging.
>>340110537
because he's a skeleton with a giant club who fucking cheats
>>340110545
pc ruined the souls series
>>340107463
Nameless King was pretty good
>nice area
>good setup
>fight is difficult
>actually very important plot wise
>>340111021
>>actually very important plot wise
No he's not. He's got absolutely nothing to do with the story of 3.
>>340107463
no. pretty much every fight in dark souls 3 is some gimmicky shit or a meme boss with flashy anime effects. seriously the most memorable boss was the tree because it was the dumbest fucking boss design i've ever seen
>wooahhh old tree WITH BALLS LMAO woah dude it grew a hand so sickdark dude woahhh
>>340107463
No. Pontiff Sulyvahn was the only challenging boss fight, sadly.
>>340110537
He's an even bigger piece of shit than Rape Horse.
>>340111021
He's important lore wise. Plot wise the most important characters are clearly Aldrich and Sully.
Hopefully we'll get some story elements with the primordial serpents and more Ludleth stuff in the DLCs
>>340110537
He drank a lot of milk
>>340111146
I mean't lore oops, he's apparently gwyn's first born so that's something
>>340111021
fight is pretty middle of the road difficulty wise, he just hits hard.
>>340110414
This faggot gets it. OOK pushed my shit in harder than anything in DaS3, but even he doesn't come close to Fume.
Fume Knight best knight all years.
>>340111239
I beat him in 2 tries, git gud faggot
>>340111239
Pontiff is a easier Fume Knight
>>340109008
Basically a reskin of Ornstein with a shitty dragon fight
>>340107463
orphan is so fucking overrated
the fight is difficult, but it's not epic or beautiful. it's just irritating and shrill.
the twin princes fight trumps most of BB's bosses, barring maria, gherman and ludwig
I would've preferred it if DS2 and 3 didnt exist and instead From did more games like Bloodborne.
>>340112884
M8 are you joking? It's one of the most beautiful battles in the entire series, especially since they managed to do it with an ugly fuck like orphan
>>340113038
BB fans like the taste of BBCock in their mouths that they say retarded shit like this.
>>340113265
>straight up admitting you havent played the game
>>340111162
Do you actually mean all this or are you just bored and memeing around?
Because holy shit this is some retarded shit I'm reading.
>>340107463
Nothing at all to be honest.
Nameless King and the Twin Princes are the only challenging thing in DaS 3 for me. Even though I had a much easier time with Orphan than I did with some of the bigger bosses in the game nothing really ever got that intense.
DaS 3 is still tons of fun though.
>>340113462
>I can't read. The post!
Oh I have played it and the DLC. It's just not the best experience in the world.
>>340113826
>Twin Princes
The only difficulty that comes from them is the cheapness of the teleporting attack. If he teleports off camera and your lockon breaks, you have no idea when to dodge, meaning you're gonna get hit.
>>340113896
You mean you watched it on youtube? What's the first unique blood gem you get in the DLC? If you take enough time to google I'll assume you're btfo
>>340110414
This fuckstick took me two hours on NG++ Ascetic because I wanted two straight swords and the UGSBut Alonne on NG took me even longer
>>340110537
how little you know.
>>340114023
The teleporting didn't bother me that much, it was the second phase when Lothric was spamming shit on his back. The lock on behaved pretty well and would actually track him if he teleported close by.
>>340114075
Do you want me to give you a picture of my BB copy with the DLC, trophies, gameplay footage, Miyazaki autograph, and carbon imprint while we're at it?
Also the only things I remember was getting the weapons. The gems I farm from either Cainhurst or from winter lanterns (Which also can be found in the fishing hamlet).
>>340114075
I'm not him but are you really expecting somebody to remember that?
Especially since they all have such similar names.
>>340114189
Stay close and Lorian won't spam his tracking orbs.
Every time I fight them, the lock-on will break at least once and I'll get hit which is just annoying and rather cheap.
>>340113265
Shh it's ok baby, try counting to ten slowly
>>340114283
At least where the first unique gem you get is, it's fairly easy to remember where.
>>340113265
>>340114223
>>340114223
>The gems I farm from either Cainhurst or from winter lanterns
Holy shit you really just watched a youtube playthrough
>>340111021
>>340111021
>important plot-wise
>fight literally takes place in a dream
>>340114527
>DON'T READ THE WIKI FOR FARMING LOCATIONS
You're literally that stupid.
>>340107463
In what? Difficulty? No, DaS3 is casual as fuck compared to BB.
Presentation though, a lot of fights beat him, King duo and Prince duo for example, Abysswatchers is also fantastic, and Pontiff is just beautiful, and all of these are excluding the more nostalgia bait fights like the tragicness of the Aldritch fight or the beautiful send off that is Soul of Cinder. Maybe that's just bias but i think DaS3 boss fights are far more entertaining that BB ones that lean more towards being challenging.
>>340112884
>orphan
>not beautiful
>scene takes place on a calm beach
>before entering, see the mermaids praying to Kos
>Kos absolutely ravished by hunters
>orphan is born, having to crawl out of his mother's womb
>first thing he sees is his dead mother
>begins crying Gherman's cry
>hunter approaches, one of those who desecrated his mother
>this plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahfb7M7jYvA
>>340114643
If you actually played it you'd have farmed them from chalice dungeons because that's where the only viable gems are
You've only "secondarily" played it through streams, videos, and tabbing out to the wiki. This is obvious from your responses and use of pcuck terminology
The thing that made this boss hard was the fucking health pool, took forever to kill.
Also Pontiff Sulyvahn gave me a lot of shit.
>>340114792
>doing chalice dungeons
cuck
>>340114792
>chalice dungeons
You do know not all of us wanted to go to "same 4 rooms" dungeon crawling right?I also fought Maria without relying on riposte
>>340114707
>orphan
>not beautiful
He has the same problem that Ebrietas and Old Demon King have that Sif and Maiden Astrea don't: you can't feel sorry for horrible UGLY monsters, the moment he starts YYYYYYAAAAAAWWWWWLLLLing you stop feeling whatever you were feeling for it.
>>340114223
>The gems I farm from either Cainhurst or from winter lanterns (Which also can be found in the fishing hamlet)
spotted the PCuck
Why do sonydrones like to suck bloodbornes dick all the time?
Its nothing that damn special, you get the same experience playing any of the souls games.
>>340114223
>farming gems from cainhurst
what
>>340115080
Then I guess you missed half the best bosses in the game during your youtube playthrough
>I read that you can parry Maria am I convincing yet?
>>340115157
>stop playing a game a certain way
>>340114795
BB bosses in general are dumb health sponges, specially after NG.
I thought nameless king and champion gundyr were pretty difficult, not orphan tier though
I'd say dark souls 3 generally has the best vanilla bosses in the series though, champ, nameless king, soul of cinder, twin princes, pontiff sulyvahn and dancer all felt like DLC-tier bosses
It also makes me laugh seeing people mention fume knight here, comparatively he is both far less aggressive and far less complex than most of the harder bosses in dark souls 3, he also gives the player a fuck ton of opportunities to circlestrafe round his attacks in phase 1 as he leaves himself open a ton.
DLC fights have always been harder though, it's somewhat unfair to compare them
Also it's the 5th game in the series, bosses will generally feel easier.
When I went back to play demons souls, dark souls 2, dark souls and Bloodborne (Excluding later chalices and orphan) I was surprised at how easy they were.
>>340114223
>The gems I farm from either Cainhurst or from winter lanterns
Holy shit
Even if you refuse to do chalice dungeons those are some of the worst farming options
You could not be more obvious
>>340115207
because it's their only game
just let them have it, man. just this once.
>>340115228
>if I keep saying he didn't play it then I'm fitting in
>Implying I didn't just mow her down with the gatling
I mean we all play a different way, but isn't my fault that I don't see the sublime once in a life time experience in fighting Orphan of Kos or some say Kosm.
>Ludwig the Accursed, Orphan of Kos, Vicar Amelia, Gehrman, etc, etc
I feel bad for people who didn't play this game, because it has the best bosses ever.
>>340115327
Not him, but don't the hamlet lanterns give the best gems outside of the dungeons?
That's where I got mine.
>>340115207
>getting upset because you got btfo and have no response
>getting upset because other people like a game you can't play
>replying to yourself out of desperation
>>340115095
>you can't feel sorry for horrible UGLY monsters
Why not?
As much as I like the orphan fight, Twin Princes was the best fight in the series, not difficulty wise but the atmosphere was perfect. Looked incredible as well.
>>340115406
Logaris was better than most of those. I beat Amelia on my first play through. Her NG+ though she kept healing so I threw a numbing mist at her and her AI freaked out, lept backwards, and attempted to heal 5 times in a row without success. BB bosses aren't that tough.
>>340115625
this, twin princes were amazing
>>340115619
>>340115324
my biggest complaint with DaS3 are that the bosses are so fucking easy, mainly because 1. their attacks are telegraphed as fuck and/or 2. their health pools are tiny
I think DaS3 has the most "joke" fights in the series
Nothing tops this moment in DS1
>>340115524
Because people like cute things and despise ugly things, no matter how many movies are made telling you otherwise.
>>340115207
Not even a sonyfag, I bought a used PS4 for Bloodborne and nothing else. It genuinely is the best game in the Souls series and one of the best games in the last decade. I wish it were on PC, primarily because its held back by the PS4's hardware, but also because it deserves to be played by more people.
>>340107463
Nope. Bloodborne shits on DS3 in just about every single way.
>>340115095
that's quite a superficial opinion
>>340115813
>and a weeb
>>340115924
Except in difficulty.
>>340115095
>you can't feel sympathy for ugly things
Guess that's why no one is feeling any sympathy for you.
>>340115619
>>340115984
holy shit
>>340110689
>I NEVER FUCKING FOUGHT HIM: THE POST
>>340109008
The only thing hard about him is having to do the first phase every time. If you could just fight him on his own on subsequent tries, he would have been a joke compared to Orphan.
>>340115993
It's universally agreed that bloodborne has significant harder bosses by far
>>340107463
so is his weapon like one of Kos internal organs or some shit
>>340115835
There is nothing sadder than killing a loyal not-evil dog, so yeah, can't see that being surpassed.
>>340115835
This is true. It wasn't a particuarly hard fight but it remains one of the highlights of the series.
>>340115993
?
DaS3 is as easy as DaS2, they're both the easiest
>>340116171
That's the placenta
>>340116134
LOL?? blunderborne was literally the most casual FROM game to date. why are sonyggers so pathetic?
The non DLC BB bosses didn't come close, either.
What an unfair thread.
>>340109278
The worst area in the game is the Consumed King's Garden.
>>340116134
Agreed by who? That's not some scientific fact. All the bosses in bloodborne are easy as fuck save for the DLC ones (not including living failures)
>>340116195
It took me more tries on Dark Souls 3 than any boss in BB. It took the DLC of BB to force Ls out of me.
>>340116264
Alright.
Is there anything else, in the entire Souls series, that came close to Orphan of Kos?
>>340115827
>DaS3 has the most "joke" fights in the series
No, that's totally not true. Just look at DS2. The "joke" fights in that game is like most of them.
>>340109547
That doesn't make any sense. There's no need to work on Bloodborne because they've moved on from that project. It also had a DLC package, so what the fuck are you trying to suggest?
>>340111146
maybe not important in the scheme of 3, but for fans who've been playing since 1 it's a nice little wrapup to the mystery of "Whatever happened to Gwyn's son?", it's great twist when the player finds out why he was banished too, it's unexpected but at the same time makes such simple sense I'm surprised no one guessed it since dark souls 1
>>340116339
Manus
>>340116297
regardless, the defiled chalices are still harder as well as ebrietas
what weapon did you use in DaS3/BB?
I think a lot depends on this
>>340116339
No.
>>340115827
I take issue with this though, as comparatively bosses like pontiff suylvahn have much less telegraphed attacks than series "defining" hard bosses like say Manus.
Look at Pontiff's combo in comparison to Manus's
Manus:
>screams for 2-3 seconds
>flails
>stays stationary while the player can do what he wants
>takes a couple of seconds to get back into motion
Pontiff:
>cross swords quickly
>activates combo
>chases the player with it
>goes right back into his normal moveset after
And Nameless King to Ornstein and Smough:
Ornstien and Smough:
>Ornstein's charge attack takes 3-5 seconds to go into motion
>Smough readies his hammer in a very obvious telegraph
>smough lifts his hammer and takes forever
Nameless:
>dash attacks are very quick and abrupt
>slam attack is very quick
>charge thunder attack leaves him open, but the actual strike is very fast and takes getting used to by timing rather than any visual cue
I generally feel amongst the easier bosses this is true, but the harder bosses have little in the way of obnoxiously easy telegraphing.
Lothric and Lorian for example, set up their attacks based on teleports, whether it's from above, to the side, far away and in front, and it's really only their charge beam which has a large telegraph
>>340116391
>I'm surprised no one guessed it since dark souls 1
Because everyone was certain Solaire was Gwyn's firstborn for whatever reason.
>>340116339
Genuinely, no. Except for the first time you fought Gherman.
>>340109008
A fucking Gwyn cosplayer that's piss easy to dodge?
Really? THAT was your best example?
>>340116297
Bloodborne had harder bosses in chalice dungeons and DLC, by a wide margin. I'd say there were a few vanilla bosses that outclassed das3 by far as well
>>340116235
Cry more pcbab
>>340116363
it's almost all of them in 3 too, by joke fight I mean it's super easy
>>340116467
pontiff was a great fight at first, then he became super telegraphed when he brought out his clone. I think that's the only instance in the series where the second phase becomes easier for me than the first
Nameless is telegraphed as fuck so I'm not sure where you're going with it (so are O&S but there are two of them)
>>340107463
Beat this fucker after haitus-ing BB and i can definitely tell you that it's a positive no.
The hit points alone makes this fucker the biggest god-forsaken chore in possibly the entire souls franchise.
My opinion.
>>340116467
You forget that Dark Souls 1 was much slower when compared to 3, and the dodging is so much quicker now.
Nameless, Soul and the Princes were pretty great. I don't think anything in 3 beats Rape Horse and Kos though.
That being said, Bloodborne had no good bosses in its base game besides German and Papa, so I think they're about equal overall in terms of boss quality.
>>340116467
>>340116654
also adding, the problem with the twin princes is that all their teleport attacks have the same dodge timing so it doesn't matter what they do, except the beam which gives you a shitton of time to react anyway
Not really, but I won't be surprised if one of the DLC's overtake him, simply because that seems to be From's game right now.
>release game
>people grow bitter, or claim previous games were better, as in the case of dark souls, dark souls 2 and bloodborne
>release dlc
>hard, memorable bosses
>people praise the game to high heavens again
Going by the base game's bosses, I wouldn't be surprised if the DLC contained the "hardest" they've ever done.
But you also have to question just how "hard" a boss they can make to make it both fair to people who haven't played any other game than dark souls 3, as well as souls veterans, who will naturally be more accustomed to the bosses.
>>340116667
>340116667
Just pizza cutter him. Watching his health drain as you use the L2 attack is so satisfying.
>>340107463
no, because DS3 was actually good
>>340116439
Hunter Axe + Gatling Gun
>>340116597
I only did a few chalices and NONE of them took me any attempts other than 1 to beat. At this point of he game it's just "Dodge, wait, dodge wait, attack," until you win. I haven't fought Ebrietas yet which is why I have a NG+ with this same build.
>>340116339
Only other DLC bosses. And that's the thing. The DLC bosses are always the hardest in these games.
In my opinion DS3 base game bosses are quite challenging by base game standards.
Dragonslayer Armor came close in regards to being relentless, but it was very easy to predict, unlike Orphan.
Soul of Cinder could have been close to it if it was more agressive and changed classes constantly
>>340115619
He mad as fuck lol
>>340116814
what did you use in DaS3? also what did you use against Amelia/gascoign?
>>340116667
Massive HP is a problem with all the BB bosses honestly, my one major complaint
It really drags the fights out and forces you to play defensively, punishing you if you play hyper offensively like they seemed to want you to
>>340113462
>Not owning a console in this shitty current gen marks you as some sort of degenerate.
Yeah no, that's actually vice versa. A PS4 is chump change to me, but it's still pointless thrift spending at the best of times. I hope to god that shit's satire, cause otherwise it's just sad.
>>340116814
>I only did a few chalices
There's your problem, you never actually finished them and are somehow using your anecdotal experience as an argument
>I haven't fought Ebrietas
Pffft
>>340115625
>>340115747
I think you two might be retarded. You either just like the kingdom hearts song during the fight or have a brother fetish.
>>340116779
>he screams after every time you hit him
>every "hit" from the pizza cutters L2 activates the scream
>just one ear splitting continuous scream
>>340116994
Kingdom Hearts had a pretty good soundtrack.
>>340107463
I just bought the Old Hunters dlc and I'm wondering when I should go to it. I just don't want to go in too underleveled.
>>340116941
I don't really mind the massive hp other than for ludwig and orphan, where it feels they inflated it for no other reason than to make the fights more tedious
the only real thing that annoys me about bloodborne's fights is the mid game OHKO's from bosses like ebrietas depending on dodge/action frames, it's really annoying to have 80% health and die in one hit even at an appropriate level of vit (25 or so)
>>340116927
Same setup except I had the blunderbuss because I did the DLC only BEFORE nightmare of menis. My original playthrough of Ds3 I used a str build with a greataxe using heavy gem.
>>340116975
Because chalice dungeons are boring as fuck and anything I did fight there was easier than the main game itself.
>>340116814
>I only did a few chalices
>didn't do ebrietas
so what you're saying is you didn't fight the hardest bosses in the base game? ok
>>340116597
>I'd say there were a few vanilla bosses that outclassed das3 by far as well
A few?
List of Bloodborne vanilla bosses that outclass everything in Dark Souls 3:
Ebrietas
Gherman
Logarius
Gascoigne
Wet Nurse
Abhorrent Beast
Yharnam
Pthumerian Elder
>>340117129
You didn't even finish the main game itself, that's a terrible excuse for an objective argument
Is using DLC fair? Dark souls 3 DLC isn't out yet
>>340117164
Yeah I did say that.. where did I say I didn't? Scroll up idiot.
>>340116994
I wonder if Gwyn would have been proud of his grandchildren
>>340116950
>Pretending that pc gaming is good right now.
Mt pc cost me more than double my PS4s price, but I will admit pc exclusives are shit. Getting the best version of multiplats means nothing when your exclusives are abysmal.
>>340116339
When Demon's Souls first came out it had some really memorable and tough moments. I'm not sure how well they hold up today, but back when it was the first game and the community was small, and most people weren't very good or experienced it was a whole different world. Flamelurker is still really hard for me to be honest. I love all the bosses in that game though, even if most of them are easy once you learn the trick.
>>340117129
>Ds3 I used a greataxe
that's probably why you found it harder, slow weapons are shit against the bosses. I used straight swords/estoc/rapier so the boss fights were a joke
I had more trouble on Lower Loran Abhorrent Beast than Orphan desu
Did anyone really enjoy chalice dungeon bosses?
Some resused (Rom, Amygdala, Darkbeast, Emissary, Ebrietas, BSB) and a bunch of shit (Watchdog, Keeper, Watchers, Undead Giant, Bloodletting/Abhorrent beast, etc)
Heck some were just regular enemies. (Brainsucker, Silverbeast, Boar)
Some were pretty challenging but they were all more of a chore than anything. the Queen would have been a great fight if not for the really dumb stun mechanic.
>>340117098
End of the game. It's tough.
>>340108384
Aldrich and Pontiff are foreshadowed from the Deep's asshole, dude.
Not to mention Nameless King that spans games.
>>340117208
.. but I did beat the game otherwise I wouldn't be in NG+
>>340117248
Or maybe because BB isn't that hard and all their weapons are R1 speed spam fast?
>>340117228
>trying to argue that DaS3 was harder than base BB
>didn't fight the hardest bosses in the base game
ok
>>340117181
>Wet Nurse
>Yharnam
This is absolute retardation
>>340116770
>But you also have to question just how "hard" a boss they can make to make it both fair
I honestly think Orphan might be the hardest they can go without making it completely cheap, but they've managed to surprise us before so I have high hopes for the DLCs.
>>340117337
>Implying that boss will be hard
>>340117181
I found champion gundyr, nameless king, twin princes, soul of cinder, dancer of the boreal valley and pontiff sulyvah to be more memorable and difficult bosses than anything outside of ebrietas familia, who I found to be around the same level as gundyr and king
>>340117336
> all their weapons are R1 speed spam fast?
same thing as every souls game? just dodge and hit
Difficulty-wise? Not quite, no.
Presentation-wise? Concept-wise? Lore-wise? Twin Princes, easily. Aldrich as well. Yhorm if you do it with Onionbro and can ignore the fight being stupid easy.
>>340117419
>b-but it wont be hard cus i said so
>>340117378
ludwig and laurence are harder though since they can't be parried
>>340115835
When the second phase of Living Failures music starts and they summon the cosmos.
Possibly the best moment in video games.
>>340117260
Chalice dungeons are big part of why I find it hard to replay bloodborne
>>340117337
>thinks chalshit dungeon "bosses" count as bosses
>>340107463
Champion gundyr, but he takes double damage as he's changing to phase 2, while Orphan changes instantaneously and knocks you back significantly.
>>340116941
This.
Great game, but a lot of boss fights feel like they overstay their welcome compared to fights in the other Souls games.
The shittiest part about multiple phase fights like the Orphan is that you never really get a chance to practice against his last phase, since it takes for fucking ever to get there and by the time you do you probably already blew half of your blood vials and have to go full turtle mode.
>>340117428
Explain how any of those are hard aside from Soul of Cinder and Nameless King
>>340117508
Sure but I suck at parrying so I couldn't cheese through Orphan like that
>>340117181
I highly disagree with Gherman, Logarius, Gascoigne, Wet Nurse and Abhorrent Beast being on your list.
Most of them can be easily parried, Abhorrent is a bitch when it comes to poison and Wet Nurse is a really fucking easy fight. I also personally didn't have a problem with Ebrietas, but I could see how some people could have trouble with her. Nameless and the Princes are honestly harder than any boss on that list.
>You will never fuck that mouth
>>340117429
Yeah and BB is literally made for that which makes it super easy. The 3 hunters in the unseen village were harder than most encounters I've had.
>>340117470
https://www.youtube.com/user/U9B/videos
You can wait for me to upload it happening here. I'll even show you whether or not it's a first try if there's no fog gate or intro so you'll know if it's easy or not. You'll be waiting awhile though cause Ludwig comes first.
>>340117525
>this content in the game doesn't count as content in the game
>>340117515
It was a cool mechanic but calling it the best moment in video games is a massive stretch.
>>340117579
Explain how:
Gehrman
Logarius
Gascoigne
Wet Nurse
Yharnam
Pthumerian Elder
Explain how any of these are "hard" when you have the ridiculously overpowered by any souls games parry standard, long range parry mechanic, which largely (outside of a few moments like the double flail attack in orphan of kos) removes the danger from parrying.
It's not like they're very difficult anyway.
>>340117242
>Implying 2nd-rate, Indie and Shovelware titles are worse than the sea of underwhelming, overpriced AAA garbage on consoles.
I have a fuckton of games to play in my backlog, sorry if you don't enjoy vidya anymore.
>>340117525
>it doesn't count because I say so
>>340117525
That makes no sense.
How are they not bosses just because they're in the chalice dungeons?
>>340107463
I'll say this:
Been playing these games for years. Orphan of Kos took me 25-30 tries. Hardest boss in Dark Souls 3 for me was Soul of Cinder, who took me 4.
>>340117638
I've never really understood the big deal with abhorrent beast, I've always succesfully been able to dodge his attacks incredibly easily, and he seems far less complex than other bosses.
The removal of parrying is the only thing that makes the fight different
>>340116941
I never really felt the bosses had too much HP because a lot of the ones that had more HP had really different second forms (with maria having a smaller HP pool alongside 3 phases)
only exception was laurence, but he also had 3 phases
>>340117515
that music is hype af. It's hard to listen to during the fight because so much is going on but it goes from cheesy '50s sci-fi on a radio to high gothic in like no time at all
>>340117773
>Wet Nurse
>Hard
I mean it was scary but not hard. Gehrman isn't very hard either.
>Twin Princes
O&S for hipsters.
>>340117260
I thought Chalice Dungeons were fucking garbage and an unnecessary addition to the game.
Top be honest, all of the bosses in the dungeon could have just not been in the game, and I would not have minded. None of them are particularly great. I guess you could throw Yharnam in the actual game for lore purposes, but other than that, eh.
>>340117640
>gherman got to cuck Maria with this
>>340115835
But Gehrman accomplishes the same but on an even grander scale.
>>340117140
i bet you're the cool guy at parties.
Laurence was fucking bullshit.
>>340117828
I have been playing since demons souls, Orphan took me around 30, soul of cinder was 25, both were largely the result of me fucking around
I would say I found dark souls 3 vanilla and Bloodborne vanilla to be around about the same difficulty, mostly because I found ebrietas hard, and some of the chalice bosses.
I generally find the first three games by comparison, a lot easier as a result of having both played them, and the generally more simplistic design
>>340117515
>Possibly the best moment in video games.
Nigger what? Seriously?
>You lived to see the From fanbase go from discussing lore, being friendly, and helpful to non-stop shitposting about which bosses are the hardest
To think Bloodborne fans pretend they're any different from Dark Souls shits
>>340117773
Because firstly, parries are limited, and secondly, attacks are released erratically enough that parrying consistently is difficult. All people do to argue against Bloodborne arguments is blow the parrying mechanic out of proportion. Meanwhile, every Dark Souls 3 boss is the epitome of "walk to the side and attack", aside from the fucking tree.
>Miyazaki always talking about how the games aren't supposed to be impossibly hard or for "hardcore gamers"
>Souls fans claiming the difficulty isn't the point and "prepare to die" was just a cheap marketing tactic and that the games are actually pretty easy when you get used to them
>still every Souls thread is all about "THIS WASN'T HARD ENOUGH" or "THIS OTHER BOSS WAS SO HARD" and "FUCKING CASUL YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS HARD??" etc etc
ENB was right, Souls is dead
>>340113462
Source on who made this?
>>340117960
Except they're really nothing like O&S?
Or do you think that because there's two of them?
>>340118198
Really?
Because with wet nurse, one of the bosses on the list, I found the best tactic was to simply "walk to the back and attack"
Whereas with champion gundyr, if I attempted to do that he would either charge, jump, kick, or spin punch me
If I tried to do that with pontiff he would pirouette and backslash
If I tried to do that with soul of cinder he would use of his many delayed swings to fuck me over when I was rolling round his side
so, who else here killed the princes in one try?
>>340118346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-idkOjAnWL0
>>340118192
why would BB fans pretend to be different? We've played every souls game
>from fanbase go from discussing lore, being friendly, and helpful to non-stop shitposting about which bosses are the hardest
this happened with the PC release of PtD, get with the times
>>340107463
No. BB is literally the crowning achievement of from and the most masterfully crafting video game of the decade. It's literally the answer to "Can video games be considered art?" That's a yes btw, though it in fact transcends even art.
>>340118203
that's true but they made the 2, the base game of BB, and das3 too easy on a lot of the bosses
>>340118553
>PC release of PtD
People always love to blame that but it's gotten a lot worse since then.
>>340118617
>can video games be art
>Bloodborne is a masterful crafted game of the decade
Jesus I love the game too but fuck you're gay as hell.
>>340118617
I agree. Bloodborne goes beyond even what I would consider an experience. It's not a game, it's an entirely new plane of existence. Fitting, for the way the in-game lore portrays the game's universe.
>>340118702
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 had only few truly difficult bosses as well.
DeS especially is a cakewalk nowadays since they've upped the difficulty so much since then.
>>340118432
got em on my second, got second stage to half HP my first go
>>340118713
not really, it's been about the same. We have more fights with BB because exclusivity but nothing to do with muh difficulty
>>340118753
I can't believe you fell for such obvious bait, you have to be that same poster replying to himself.
>>340118198
Yeah, but parries are long range, meaning you can go off on a boss and not get punished. Not to mention even if you drop to 0 QS, you can just sacrifice some life to get 5 more, giving you more than enough to take down any parryable boss no problem.
Not getting the hang of parrying is your own problem dude, its super easy to do. And even if you can't, you can just spam a little and most of the time get them. I know I did that before I got the hang of parrying a few hours into my first playthrough.
And you don't even need to parry to beat Mergo, not that you can, anyways. She is legit one of the easiest bosses in the game. If you want to talk about "walk to the side and attack" talk about Mergo. Or Vicar. You can't do that shit against Pontiff, Nameless, or hell, Ocerios even.
>>340118753
>pckek being this mad
Everyone that's played it agrees it's at least the best game of this generation. Never ever, faggot.
>>340118863
I still think flamelurker/maneaters are harder than anything in 2/3, I recently played through all 5 games
>>340118892
What? It's only polite to feed a troll.
>>340118959
You can do better.
>>340118203
I was about to tell you that you shouldn't use /vg/ threads as a measure of a game's community because this board is fucking garbage and I literally don't even know why I'm on here.
Then I realized I'm on /v/. I'ts been nearly a year since I've been here. This place has really gone down hill hasn't it?
Maneaters are harder than anything in BB, and 3 for that matter.Unless you cheese them through the gate, But if you do that you're a cunt.
>>340119069
play demons souls again
DaS3's bosses were probably the most underwhelming in the series. At least 2's bosses gave me a bit of trouble due to some inconsistent i-frames (this is not a good thing, but at least there was a challenge). I don't think I've ever killed so many bosses in one try in a game before. It was probably a deathless streak before I hit Pontiff, who I swiftly fucked within 5 tries.
>>340113038
THIS, fuck
>beautiful sunset and wrecked ships in the background
>the fucking moment when he starts glowing an angelic glow and sprouts wings
I'm playing through Demon's Souls again right now and the level design is absolutely phenomenal
I think going with the continuous unbroken world route in all the subsequent games kind of stifled the focus of the level design
>>340107463
Someone tell me a fun build for my next playthrough. I have done str build and arcane/dex build already
>>340119180
not him but see>>340118971
>>340119180
Went through it a week ago breh. Took me 6 tries to beat 'em, more than anything in 3 or Bloodborne. Rest of the game was super easy though, even Allant and Lurker.
>>340119218
DaS1's bosses aren't all that great either in retrospect. Everyone just wears nostalgia goggles for them. The only games with genuinely fantastic bosses are DeS and BB.
Abyss Watchers was probably my favorite fight in DaS3. It was such a crazy battle and the second stage took everything I loved about Artorias (probably my favorite DaS boss) and then tweaked it just enough to be different.
>>340118971
>>340119069
Maneaters are all about RNG. Sometimes you get through them no problems, sometimes the other one spawns almost immediately and proceeds to buttrape you until you drop off the bridge
Flamelurker's difficulty is diminished a lot by the practically infinite amount of healing grass you can have.
But still, that's only two bosses. The rest of DeS is pretty easy or just gimmick fights. False King might have been badass back then, but now his moves look incredibly simplistic when compared to what From puts out now.
>>340119576
I still think O&S is pretty great fight. In the top 5 of the series at least.
Nothing tops this moment if you don't know about it beforehand
>>340119006
>It's only polite to feed a troll.
Come on baby, nobody thinks like that. Don't make it worse, learn to spot the posters who don't actually mean what they're typing.
>>340119758
Everyone here means what they type.
>>340119576
>only the Sony exclusives are any good
wow what a coincidence
>>340119043
It's been downhill since the site was brought back late 2006 then chanology in 2007 only made it worse.
>>340119576
Ornstein and Smough, Sif, Artorias, Kalameet, Manus? None of these are fantastic?
>>340115661
>I threw a numbing mist at her and her AI freaked out, lept backwards, and attempted to heal 5 times in a row without success.
That's actually really good from a narrative standpoint, someone freaking the fuck out because they lost their healing power, desperately trying to make it work again.
Though I know that wasn't intentional at all, and from a gameplay standpoint all she's doing is standing there letting you kill her which isn't fun.
>>340116941
I honestly feel the opposite. I found in DS3 bosses died before I even saw their entire moveset sometimes. It doesn't really feel like you "beat" a boss if you just kill it before it really does anything. And before people accuse me of overleveling or some shit, I played blind and did exactly 0 grinding and just upgraded my weapon as I could.
On the flipside the bossfights in Bloodborne tend to be real slug fests that feel really tense. DS3 did a lot of things right but boss health pools was not one of them imo.
>>340119576
challenging and difficult bosses like fools idol, phalanx, leechmonger, dirty colossus, old hero, maiden astraea, dragon god, vanguard, adjudicator, armor spider, king allant, storm king,
tip top mechannical bosses right there familia
definetely no nostalgia or anything, definetely not
bloodborne had such pearls as rom, the one reborn, micolash, emissary, failures, witches, merciless watchers, brainsucker, maneater boar and loran silverbeast as well
although bloodborne's bosses are basically one trail of disappointment after amelia to ebrietas
>>340119694
But more than half the bosses are normal ass enemies. It's an unfinished bad game.
>>340120010
The "previous boss becomes a normal enemy later" is a common trope and a very satisfying one at that.
>>340119873
>the only games I couldn't play are bad
What a coincidence
>>340120004
>actually counting brainsucker and maneater boar as bosses for the sake of argument
>>340119973
I wish I had captured it. I stood there observing the AI freak out. I didn't even take advantage of it, but partly cause she was backed into a corner and I am not dumb enough to attack a boss trying to bait me.. even if it isn't that smart.
>>340120004
>king allant
>tfw I can't talk about my favorite boss in the series because it was in everyone's most hated game ever
>>340120010
>Capra Demon
>Taurus Demon
>Moonlight Butterfly
>Sanctuary Guardian
... am I missing something here?
>Asylum Demon(s)
>Queelag
>Gargoyles
>Iron Golem
>Sif
>Seathe
>Artorias
>Mannus
>Bed of Chaos
>4Kings
>Biggie Smalls
>Gwyn
>Nito
>Pinwheel
>>340120279
>HURRR CHALICE DUNGEONS MATTER THEY ARE REAL CONTENT THE CHALICE BOSSES R 4 REALSIES
>uhh the boar doesnt count tho
>>340115661
>>340119973
>throw a numbing mist at Annalise
>attack her
>she falls off her throne and curls up on the ground breathing heavily
Did that effect anything or was it just neat?
Best bosses all around
Ludwig, Artorias, Fume Knight, Twin Princes, False King, Gerhman, Alonne, O&S, Nameless King, Old Monk, Guacamole, Orphan
Ludwig is the undisputed champ. Everything about the boss fight is GOAT.
>>340120529
Yeah, actually.
>>340120010
Half? Capra Taurus and Moonlight? That's not half bro.
>>340120476
>DaS2 is literally the worst game of all time and made me vomit and miscarry etc.
For what it's worth, the hate for DaS2 has died down slightly, and I do mean SLIGHTLY, as a result of DaS3. Of course it's hard to tell since there are so many sonyfags that will shit on any DaS game just for not being BB.
>>340120268
>make an ironic remark about the never ever meme and the sony bias going on
>he actually responds back with never ever
you're not very smart are you?
>>340120575
They had health bars and were bosses in the chalice dungeon, they're fucking bosses.
>>340120529
Yes, because the boar is a regular enemy with a fucking health bar, and the same amount of health as the regular ones at that. Chalices do add actually unique boss fights, though.
>>340120004
>loran silverbeast was bad
>failures was bad
>micolash was bad
>>340120575
Nah I agree with him. Man-Eater Boar is a boss. A shit, easy boss. You can't just handwave that away, especially after all but demanding Chalice Dungeons be considered just as much as bosses in the main game.
>>340120681
>make a remark about the games you couldn't play and how mad you are about them being sony exclusive
>FUCK he called me out on it, I am SO MAD
Nice damage control
>>340119708
Shame the boss itself was trash.
>>340120767
Failures are okay, other two are garbage.
>>340115324
i actually played bloodborne after dark souls 3... I think I one-shot most of the bosses in bloodborne, as in DS3.
but i had a hell of a time with logarius and maria. forced me to git gud with parrying, which made gerhman and orphan quite a bit easier.
I really hate how Bloodborne introduced EVERY single boss having multiple phases. From Software can barely design a single good boss half the time and when you give them two forms you essentially have to design two or more good movesets. When it works well on things like Logarius, Orphan, Soul of Cinder, Pontiff, and such its great, but I feel like there are so many bosses that are completely worthless in their first phase and it feels like wasted time almost fighting them. Hell, certain bosses like BSB and Gascoigne don't even really do shit until about 30 percent.
On top of that while I do think at times Bloodborne bosses could use a little bit of a health shrink, in DS3 they had so little that some bosses like the first Gundyr would practically be fucking dead by the time they finish transforming
>>340120875
I confused loran silverbeast with abhorrent beast, my mistake. Though it's kind of asenine to cherry pick mobs that were used as filler bosses
But Micolash was a cool fight in my opinion, god forbid something be unique
