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How do people justify paying $40 for what is basically a tf2
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How do people justify paying $40 for what is basically a tf2 reskin with three gamemodes and three maps per gamemode? What the fuck is this?
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>>340104720
>40
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>>340104720

Because I had fun in the open beta and felt like I would get way more than $40 worth of enjoyment out of the game
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>>340105072
well did you?
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>>340105181

Yes
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>>340104720
It's not your own money, is it?
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>>340104720
I don't understand?
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>>340104720
not sure, i tried it in the open beta and holy shit
the 20 tick rate just kills all skill, it doesnt care how good your reaction time is
you're still dying, reaction time isnt even a factor, and aiming is so easy on most characters that isnt either, all basic shooters skills thrown out the window to overcasualize the game
into the trash it goes
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>>340104720
Hey, its not just a reskin.

It has waifus in it too.
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>>340104720
I paid $2.50 for TF2 and I still feel ripped off
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>>340105072
>fun
What a faggot, am i right?
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>>340104720
>I haven't played this game but I fucking hate it because I am a tf2 fag
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Probably because they can actually count and know there's 12 maps for starters
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>>340104720
Game is fun
Is it nothing like tf2 at all
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>>340104720
Already got my moneys worth according to the 1 buck per hour gameplay rule.
Interest is slowly getting smaller but allready sank enough hours into it to justify the price.

Don't know how you measure if i game was actually worth buying but it's probably by how many threads you can make on /v/ about it.
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Because it's fun?
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Why are tf2fags so mad that people actually want to play a video game and not an outdated hat simulator? Is it because they can't afford it and are stuck with the dregs?
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>>340104720
TF2 launched with 6 maps.

People only ever wanted to play 2fort.
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>>340104720
>he fell for the "overwatch is tf2" meme
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>>340106137
This is why I like that Overwatch doesn't let you choose the maps. You always end up on the same ones like 2fort or dust2.
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Its the neu male millenial generation that are complacement about playing games with strong female characters.
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Anyone starting to get bored of it already?
I played it non stop when it came out, but now i just play it in short bursts once or twice a day.
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>>340104720
1) because it's fun
2) because tf2 is old as fuck
3) tf2 has got shit since it became f2p
4) i got tired of gritty dark war fps
5) call it a reskin, but it's a good reskin then. The characters are more than soldiers, they are fuckin super heroes. Being Mercy is x20 better than being Medic, is more fun and badass, and Mercy can do far more. You can apply this to each tf2 character except pyro and spy. There are more Heroes than soldiers, and they are more charming too.
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Its fun. I don't know what else to tell you. I have 3000 hours in TF2 and I'm pretty much done with the game since all the new updates are just hats. I bought OW on launch and already have 70 hours in it including beta play, its just an enjoyable experience.
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>>340104720
butts
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because you don't have to pay for weapons like you do in tf2
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>>340106164
TF2 is literally Overwatch's primary influence.
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>>340104720


>he doesn't know TF2 used to cost money


Also I've put more hours into Overwatch than I ever did into TF2 because I'm not autistic enough to give a shit about Tf2
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>>340106267
>defending lack of choice
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if you never played TF2 before it went F2P, you can't comment on it in comparison to Overwatch. It all went to shit by the time they introduced new items.
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>>340107474

TF2 was always shit


It's fun for like 1 night of games.
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>>340107042
>butts
thanks, thats the ONLY honest answer
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Anyone who says overwatch is a TF2 redskin has not played it for any good amount of time
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I got my money's worth. My interest has waned though, it is genuinely a relatively casual game and there's only so much you can play before you want something more skill intensive.

Don't know if there's much coming out this year in the way of that. Lawbreakers might be good.
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Because it's fun.

I've spend more on worse.
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>>340104720
>people buy 200+ Dollars knife on a shitty boring game
OH MY GOD HE PAYED 40 DOLLARS TO GET A FUN GAME WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO GET EVERYTHING IN THE GAME. WHAT A FUCKING NAZI
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advertising and gullibility
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>>340104720
>How do people justify paying $40 for what is basically a tf2 reskin with three gamemodes and three maps per gamemode? What the fuck is this?

No 6 years old third worlder kids ruining all pubs. Reason enough.
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>>340104720
That's like saying Star Wars is a Star Trek reskin.
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>>340108796
>people buy 200+ Dollars knife on a shitty boring game

Are you really going to question Valve's way of doing things?

It's all cosmetic shit in CS:GO and Dota 2 with low base prices / F2P for the actual game with all the relevant content.

There's nothing that compels someone to buy a 200 dollar knife other than being a special snowflake and honestly if they can afford to do that sort of thing I don't really think money is a problem for them.
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>>340109864
says the knife owner I suppose
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>>340108796
>comparing cosmetic items to an actual game

I see logic isnt a stong suit
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>>340104720
Unfortunately I was busy finishing my degree when the open beta was happening so I bought it after hearing how good it was.

Everyone said the game was great which it was, for the first week. It lacks so much content
>no singleplayer
>3 gamemodes
>12 maps

Not worth the price of admission.
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It's fun
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>>340108647
>tfw you actually spent $60 on fallout and still have a hard time enjoying it

I'm okay with spending money on this because I needed a game where I could just sit down and play a match for a bit before going out or going to bed


Plus I get to play AND watch porn with best girl
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>>340110369
TF2 costed $30 back in the day, and had far less at launch.
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I'm surprised people aren't comparing it to Splatoon.

>>340110571
Shhhh, only newfags from Reddit started playing when it went f2p.
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>>340110078
???

I don't even play CS:GO
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>>340110698
>I'm surprised people aren't comparing it to Splatoon.

Splatoon is actually challenging and innovative, why would you insult it by comparing it to Overwatch?
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>>340107149
>influence
>clone
nigger those are two different things
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>>340110808
People complaining about the amount of content and price not being worth it right now, which is true.
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Overwatch is fresh and fun. TF2 died when idling became a thing, the levelling system on OW is perfect because it means absolutely nothing except random cosmetics as incentive for prizes and encourages players to keep playing the game for what it is. Fuck Valve and their fucking Keys that you can't even get for free unless you start getting into TF2s cancerous economy
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>>340111048
>complaining about cosmetics rather than gameplay

Why is this shit ever in arguments, it doesn't fucking have any weight.
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Mei is bae
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>year of our lord and savior 2004+12
>not enjoying vidya
>chooses to shitpost on cuckchan a weeb site for tumblerites and nigger lovers
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5 0 % F O R C E D W I N R A T E
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>>340111749
I have 58% after 600 games. its okay
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>>340107543
no different from overwatch then
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>>340110571
It was bundled with the Orange Box. Sold digitally for 20$, then 10$, then f2p.
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>>340111749
>people still pushing this shit

Just stop.
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>>340111749
I had sub 60-something percent at about 120 games last night, but then I got put on like 10 shitty teams in a row last night. Afraid to look at my rate now.
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>>340110571
It was actually only $20, and originally you couldn't buy it seperately from the Orange Box.
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someone please buy me the game, or pay £20 into my PayPal (I'll pay the rest for the £10)

Cheers, and we can play together if you want to, too.
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theres a fairly good chance blizzard will add new modes, new maps, and possably a world editor for people to do custom game modes.

give it time.
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>>340111669
thats what you're doing right now

also 4chan hasn't been a weebsite for centuries. we normalfag town now
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>>340112193
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>>340112149
Sent ;)
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>>340105257
but did you get $40 worth of hats?
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>>340107149
Tencent Clone games minus shrek
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>Never play support
>Want to play it
>Remember why I never play it
>Teammates cant fucking hit water if they fell off a boat
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>>340106297
Nice pasta xd
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>>340112193
i honestly want to know how maps they'll add per time spent because 3-4 months for 1 map in ow would be awful
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How many hours per dollar of value do you need to be considered a good purchase? I think 3 hours per dollar. So I'll need to play 120 hours. Its a multiplayer game so its dynamic and interesting. Some AAA games(60$) have 8 hours and the journos will explain why we should enjoy this. A movie ticket is 8.50$ for 1.5 to 3 hours. Whats the problem?
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>>340113095
1 DOLLAR 1 HOUR OR BUST

SPOOLE IS ALWAYS RIGHT
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>>340104720
It's fun.
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>>340111749
Someone explain this to me
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>mfw not bored of it yet
should have already had a new map or two though
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>tfw Overwatch is /v/'s new "it's popular so it's bad" game.
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>>340114743
The matchmaking isn't designed to make even games, it's designed to get as close to 50% w/l as possible so you will frequently be put into unbalanced, unwinnable games if you ever go above it.
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>>340107149
It's much more simlar to TFC
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???? TF2 doesn't have dat boi jet set radio wall riding???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEpMFgVM8s8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH0ePK5ia50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qytdp4obq9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrDL0qZFnC4

https://dvsgaming.org/overwatch-hero-guides-lucio-movement-tutorial/
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>>340115138
I was watching one of the documentaries about how the game was made, and two of the guys at Blizzard were saying how they were both part of the same TFC clan before they ever knew each other irl, or got into the games industry.
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>>340104720
Game says I've played for 51 hours. That's more then those shitty single player games /v/ talks about
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>>340115245
This game has a lot of depth in its movement abilities that a lot of people haven't grasped yet. The other day there was an entire thread on /v/ where the majority of people didn't know Pharah could rocket jump.
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>>340104720
$40 is not a lot of money to some people

shocking i'm sure
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>>340104720
>basically a tf2 reskin

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume you've played neither TF2 nor Overwatch...
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>>340115528
>didn't know Pharah could rocket jump.

goodness....
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>>340104720
Do you like TF2? There's your justification. Either go boot that game up, or buy the new one.

I mean, do you ask this question when assassin's creed sequels come out?
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>>340115090
Which has be proven false.
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>>340116045
proofs?
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>>340116214
Here >>340111943
Along with the lack of "PROOF" that you cry babies have provided.
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>>340105181
not that guy but I've already played over 30 hours of the game and have had more fun with it in most games I've played in the last 3 years.
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>>340104720
>below $1 for each hour played.
>And the first patch for heroes/maps is not even out yet
Pretty easy to justify, my family~
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>join a party of friends for overwatch I usually play with
>everything going normally
>after a bit I can't hear them at all and they apparently can't hear me
>they don't respond to messages asking why we can't communicate
>checked microphone and other parties and voice chat works fine
>the fucking niggers ghosted me in the middle of a game and won't say shit

why shouldn't I just kill myself if I can't even make fake video game friends?
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>>340116431
Are you an asshole or the super awkward wannabe comedian? If not then its there problem
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The only criticism I have against Overwatch is the 20 tickrate, and even then there's the 60 tick ranked mode that should be out soon. Otherwise there's little reason to compare this to TF2 beyond "class-based team shooter". Like others have said, this is much closer to TFC than anything,
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>>340116639
Same
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>>340116579
when I joined every single nigga was making fart noises nonstop

I fail to see how I'm the annoying one out
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>>340116939
Its not about being the mature one, its about being the odd one out. Maybe they didn't like your inability to have fun
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attention autistic TF2 fags:
You game is dead and never ever achieved any where near this level of popularity. Overwatch is by far the better game. Stay mad
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>>340104720
>tf2 reskin

Goin all out with the bait?
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>How do people justify paying money for games they enjoy

Gee, I dunno
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>>340117032
but that's the thing, if anything I would be the annoying one so I don't know wtf their problem with me is

I've already been playing with them for days and they never once said anything to me and seemed to enjoy my company
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>KOTH game mode immune to sentry cancer due to sentries being really weak in this game
Fucking worth it
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>>340116431

Those are some shit ass friends dude, I wouldn't play again with them and if they ask just tell them how it is.
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>>340117163
Find new friends
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PSA: leauge has more viewers
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>"muh TF2"
>all these underage retards that don't realize TF2 cost money when it first launched with 4 modes and 6 maps in the orange box for like $50 only to later drop to $20 and finally go F2P
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>>340104720
>2015
>Splatoon comes out and I don't want to pay full price for an incomplete game
>Use my Staff Discount card at the supermarket I work at and coupons to get it down to £9

>2016
>Overwatch, don't want to pay full price again
>get it for £12 using the same method

There's an upside to my shitty job at the least.
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>>340117074
lol
this gave me a chukle
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>>340116285
>no proof at all
here's your fucking reply
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>>340117460
yeah and it came with 2 other games
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>>340117460
>$50
nice bait
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>>340111749
>not having friends
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>>340104720
>load up a TF2 server
>meme bind spamming neon green sniper with strange effects aimbots me from spawn and taunts after every kill

>load up OW matchmaking
>no one taunts, no one has ugly glowing hats, everyone works together and cheaters get fucked over badly

OW isn't a TF2 ripoff, it's what TF2 should have been.
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>>340111749
>>340115090
>>340116285
>Always play with our 6 pre made friend team
>Never play alone
>Never get matched up with shitters out of sheer balance
>87% win ratio
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Overwatch is just more like TF2 pre-F2P
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>>340117929
Forced 50 is a phenomenon about solo queue you dense cunt
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>>340104720

Shit's incredibly fun. Something TF2 hasn't been in years.

I've already got 49 hours in it and I'm enjoying it a lot.
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>>340118165
Who plays solo anyways, dont you have any friends?
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>>340117468

That actually sounds pretty sweet.
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>>340118339
>Friends are even worse at the game than me so I just eat loss after loss because they "main" D.va and Widowmaker
>They never ever play support so I'm forced to play Mercy/Lucio
MERCY CANT CARRY A GAME
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>>340118339
No, I have poor friends
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>>340118486
>They never ever play support so I'm forced to play Mercy/Lucio
Shitty friends, get new ones. We rotate the support role every match.
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i think im gonna quit cause of the matchmaking

>oh youve been doing good
>time to dump you into a loss 10 times in a row
>cant have people getting discouraged now! everybody's a winner in Overwatchâ„¢!

holy fucking shit i need a real multiplayer game
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>>340117807
>generalising the worst case scenario TF2 match with the best case scenario Overwatch match.

wow ebin argument anon you sure got us there xdddd

Don't know what shitty servers you play in for TF2, but I have nearly 1400 hours and can only recall running into a cheater twice. One aimbot, one speed hack.

There's also plenty of teamwork in games, especially 12v12.

Also why are Overwatch babbies so afraid of a 9 year old game lmao, can't they just accept that the best things in Overwatch are taken from TF2 and just be done with it?
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>>340118563
>not being financially stable enough to provide your friends with videogames
Who's poor now, faggot?
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>>340115245
do competitive players make use of this at all?
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>>340118830
It's a sad state that even with its problems, Overwatch is still the best fps on the market right now that actually has a player base and likely will be for several years.
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>f-forced 50% is real guys!
>I'm always the best player on my team!
>when I win I deserve it when I lose it's because of muh team!

C O P I N G

M E C H A N I S M
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>>340118830
Are you seriously getting upset about shit teams in a team game where it's impossible to solo carry consistently no matter what

If you want a team game where you can carry go play CS GO
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>>340119270
People need to stop whining, sure a few losses here and there are frustrating, but most games I've played are still really fun even if we get our asses handed to us.
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>>340104720
How did you justify paying $60 for the orangebox when it came out?
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>>340119270
Funny how you're acting like this is a competitive game in any way
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I got a free key since my friend works at Blizz.

Go me.
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>>340119748
>4 games for $50
k
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amount of maps doesn't mean shit.
counter strike is one of the most popular PC games of all time and has had a massive player base for over almost 2 decades and everyone just plays dust2 over and over
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>>340119829
I'm not, I'm making fun of the retards who can't deal with the fact that they're not the star player they thought they were.

Blizz forcing this game as a competitive e-sport is just hilarious to me.
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>>340119270
Forced50 is real

within 10 games, i usually get
5 is a instant lose due to shitty team / OP enemies
4 instant win due to shitty enemies / OP teammates
1 fun as hell game because of equal skill levels on both team.

I just wish ranked play can come sooner~
atleast in CSGO competitive i can get around 3 equal skill level enemy fun game~
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>>340120239
people have decided dust2 is perfect after 16 years of play

OW doesnt even have an ok map
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50k likes and i prove the earth is flat :)

- facebook/FunClubWorldwide/
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>>340120516
>Forced50 is real
>...now let me make some assumptions from my experience with the game

Just go away and stop forcing this meme.

It is the biggest coping mechanism for just being average at games I've ever fucking seen holy shit.
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>>340104720
don't worry , game already ded
jewzard won
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I've played Overwatch, I've played TF2, they're both shit.
The way I see it, TF2 is better simply because I can get the same amount of disappoint and not have to waste 40$ when I can play the same game for free.
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>>340119270
it is fucking real

you'll get dumped into doomed games that have 10 seconds left
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>>340120970
>It is the biggest coping mechanism
>Somehow 99% of players have 50% win rate
>Only players not having 50% win rate either play in a group every time, or main only 1 hero that he's so damn good at it.
>I-it's just c-coincidence, I s-swear!
>m-muh coping mechanism!
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>>340120703
all three iterations of Ilios are pretty good, literally every character can be useful when played well
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>>340105785
Correct
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>>340120970
People will stop posting it when Blizzard unfucks their matchmaking or gives people a server browser.
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>>340121193
>he didn't pay for tf2
>he played tf2 after it went f2p
Would if I could do more than just discard your opinion. It'll have to do.
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>>340104720
broke boi, broke boi, broke boi
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>>340115528
there were this guys that put turrets on movable objets and kicked them or something
fun shit
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>>340121330
>>340121365
It's real to you retards because you're just painfully average players so by that nature you get matches with other average players or others at a similar level, there's no algorithm or conspiracy that will ensure you win or lose fucking morons.

I'm at a 73% winrate playing solo or only with one other person.

you ooga, team booga though for you guys right :^)
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HOW THE FUCK DO I PLAY GENJI WITH A PS4 CONTROLLER

HOW THE NIGGER FUCK DO YOU DEAL WITH SYMMETRA AND TORBJORN TURRETS ON A PS4 CONTROLLER THEY HAVE FUCKING INFINITE RANGE AND AUTO LOCK AND DO MORE DAMAGE TO YOU THAN YOU DO TO THEM AND IF YOU FUCKING MANAGE TO DESTROY THEM SOMEHOW THAT LITTLE NIGGER CAN JUST PUT ANOTHER ONE DOWN IMMEDIATELY AND YOU CAN'T DO SHIT

WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH GENJI WHEN I CAN'T AIM FOR FUCKING SHIT THIS IS RETARDED BULLSHIT
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>>340104720
I wanted the game more than the $40.
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>>340122131
simple, dont play on ps4
:^)
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>all these arguments
>people acting like 40 dollars is a serious investment

I want the children to leave.
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>>340113095
This assessment is doomed to failure from the start, because the apparent value of money varies wildly depending on the person. In plain words: The more dollars in one's bank account, the less valuable each individual dollar seems to be.

To the heir of a Middle Eastern kingdom, $10,000 for the super deluxe version of After Burner Climax will doubtless seem like chump change, whilst the Darfur refugee, who barely managed to scrape together the Sudanese pound equivalent of five bucks by scavenging the corpses of his fellow villagers after they were massacred by rampaging bandits, would no doubt balk at the thought of spending it all to download Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved.

These are of course extreme examples, but the point is that all of us lie at different points somewhere between them, and therefore the arbitrary assessment of complete strangers who has no idea of our financial situation is in no way helpful to any of us (not even to the mythical "average gamer", who, if he exists at all, is doubtless in the minority).

What at the end of the day you expect (or should expect), is not an assessment of a game's hours per dollar of value but of its quality compared to other games in the same genre; once you have that, you can then contrast your bank balance and your desire to play a game against the publisher's asking price, and make your decision.

How could a modern action game ever compete in the "hours per dollar" stakes with something like Chess or Sid Meier's Civilization? And what would be the point of us pitting them against each other anyway? Is an hour-long game of basketball more worthwhile than a one-minute long skydive, simply because it lasts longer? Would you like some apples with your oranges, sir? Have you ever had an orgasm?
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Are there any other FPS out there can give curb my craving? I played the Overwatch beta and couldn't see myself playing it for more than 30 minutes at a time.

Anyone have a game they dip in and out of occasionally to play?
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>>340122131
>playing overwatch on a console
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>>340122882
>spend $1000 on a PC just to play overwatch
>uncomfortable mouse and keyboard
>get raped by widowmakers and mcrees across the map
>legitimate cheaters

no fucking thanks
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>>340123250
try insurgency.
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>>340123410
LE $1000 PC MEME EBIN

LOL PLAYIN ON UNCOMFTORBLE MOUSE AND KEYBOARD WHAT ARE YOU A NERD XD

ENJOY YOUR CHEATERS AND WIDOWMAKER AIMHACKS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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>>340123410
I havent seen bait this obvious in a while
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>>340123464
Fuck I actually have that. I'll reinstall it and give it another go.
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>>340122131
>sym and torb turret
>infinite range
Maybe Bastion is more your thing
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>>340123349
Jesus Christ why
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>>340106470
Characters are more than soldiers, even though Morrison is just a soldier

Theyre all just technologically advanced units with some high ass tech, they all use weapons, they're literally just super augmented mercanaries fighting for good

>except Reaper/widow/roadhog/junkrat
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>>340124000
Those guys are heroes fighting the robot menace.
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>>340123925
that's what overwatch looks like when you can't cheat and use mouse and keyboard
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>>340123591
yea its pretty good. I used to play it a lot before I got into bf4, they just had a new update with a new map + a bunch of other shit.
I'm anxiously awaiting sandstorm
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>>340123349
>whole team running down a single dva off of the objective

this really is on consoles
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>>340105595
To me that feels because it's sort of an RTS, like if your team pulls off an awesome strat then it should be rewarded by actually succeeding. It not CSGO.
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>7 million copies sold
/v/ BTFO once again.
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>>340120516
I have a 60% win rate suck a dick.
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The only thing I'm salty about is that Splatoon had more content but got shat on way harder because Activision marketing took care of that with this game. Splatoon both started with and currently has more content.

I know OW will get free add-ons too but I'm REALLY skeptical that Activision will deliver non-Jewish great content.
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>>340104720

The honest answer is right now, if you have a group of friends to play with, this is the funnest game in the world.
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>>340104720
hero gallery fap material
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>neo-/v/ defending this piece of shit game

classic faggots that bought into a blizzjew marketing campaign to play a shittier version of tf2 just because it has girls in it

you pathetic virgins need to kys
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>>340104720

>3 game modes

It's more like 2
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Generally how I excuse all my purchases. If I get more than 1 hour of gameplay per dollar I spend it's fine.
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>>340104720
>not having fun
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>>340125003
This..

Overwatch is only popular because it's picking up on the bored league audience that Rito has been constantly alienating. All actual serious FPS players (esp CSGO) don't take it seriously because it's incredibly casualized and memey.
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Do poorfags really get this hung up on price tags? Do you also shop around to save 3 bucks on your drinks and clip coupons while you're at it?

Jesus.
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>>340125589

I'm pretty rich, I was just taught the value of a dollar and won't pay $40 for a meme game that'll probably be f2p to attract Brazilians within a year
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>>340104720
40 bucks, already played around 30 hours, well worth the money so far, Ive paid more for single player games that only last 6-12 hours.

that said, Ive played 8 days of World of Tanks and havent paid a single cent, I think I shoud buy something, those guys have earned it.
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>>340104720
do people really have to "justify" what games they do and don't spend money on?
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>>340125817

Yes; this is called being an adult
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>>340123349
That's actually hilarious.
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>>340125661
no problem if it goes F2P in a year, I will have played a years worth for only 40 bucks.
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