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What are you practicing on this fine Sunday evening?
>>340090595
>Player's Choice
>>340090672
Your point?
>>340090672
Your post contains no information.
Fucking /v/ users I swear
PAL is objectively superior in every way.
You literally cannot deny this.
how do we stop this cocky asshole?
>>340091002
Marth's dair change sucks.
But i'll trade that for Sheik being less braindead and Fox not being able to recover from near bottom of the stage
Anybody want to netplay and fight my Kirby?
East Coast only
>>340091985
make him play another samus
>>340090595
Anatomy.
>>340091002
I like most of the balance changes except the nerfs to Ganondorf and Link. And I think it takes out the jap language option or something?
>>340092685
Are you actually good with kirby?
>>340092685
Maryland here, but i don't fight memers. Choose an actual character and we'll talk.
>>340092971
Kirby is great.
>>340092959
I believe I'm decent.
>>340092923
I'm gonna guess this was some sort of 'melee players don't get laid' joke that failed miserably.
>>340092685
dfadaf77
>>340093071
>>340093071
>Kirby is great.
Just pick up Jigglypuff memelord.
>>340093347
Play my kirby then.
>>340092685
>>340093189
Too bad that didn't work out. By any chance do you have any knowledge of the kirby vs link matchup? I've heard it's even but my information is horribly outdated.
>>340093786
>even
Nah, it's on Link's favor.
Kirby can't do shit against a good projectile wall, and your uair beats Kirby's only good option coming down his dair.
Smash God (Best player in MDVA) just released his Brand New tier list.
Thoughts?
>>340093930
You mean, FraudG0d that almost lost to HNess?
>>340091985
Send him copys of Metroid Prime every day telling with a note simply saying to "Master your enemy"
>>340093930
Fox is too low
>>340093930
I'd like to know why Ganon is "highly underrated." And I think YL should be higher.
>>340094080
>Fraud
>beat hbox on netplay in a full set
>destroyed Hugs at Pound
>just came in 2nd at an MDVA regional beating DJ Nintendo, Redd, and Bones in the process
(You)
>>340094334
>netplay meaning shit
>Hugs
Nice Win over DJ I suppose.
>>340094312
Because i have been using Ganondorf against my brother lately, and he cannot seem to beat me. We think we know why, and we think it puts Ganon at the top of the tiers. I will be brief.
Ganondorf has his air forward. We call it 'The Punch.' It has that special hitbox like a sword, hence it goes right through anything except an attack with that same type of hitbox. It does 17% max, is relatively fast executing, has basically instant recovery on a barrier cancel, and is quite massive, killing at rather low percentages.
If he misses, he can just do his A punch if the opponent tries to retaliate, or shield/roll. I am telling you, Ganondorf is a crazy meat mountain who crushes bones with many attacks doing 15+%, survives to insane damages thanks to his weight, and has ridiculous horizontal recovery (Double Jump, Ganondorf Kick Down B, ANOTHER Double Jump, ARE YOU SERIOUS, Up B).
Next, check his roll. It goes like half screen. It makes him rather fast, nearly eliminating his speed problem on the ground, and a great character when it comes to the defensive game. It pretty much eliminates the need for his wavedash, which, with Ganondorf, who needs to do most of his attacking from hops, is pretty much useless already unless you are looking to smash attack. Wavesmashing, however, in my opinion, is also a bad idea, because, in the time and damage it takes you to actually land a smash, you could have just used The Punch and killed you opponent by then.
>>340094710
go to bed Kage.
>>340094710
but tires don exits
You will never have beautiful artwork created in your name and given to you for free.
Why live?
>>340093930
>implying MDFREEA opinions matter
>you will never go to a prom with Melee
>>340095715
*cringe*
lol
>>340096189
>popular mindless casual game gets more replies on /v/ just like soulsshit and overwatch
Is anybody surprised? Not really.
>>340096189
enjoy getting BTFO by /vg/ on the reg
>>340090595
I'm trying to master the marth chaingrab on spacies. I can't consistently pivot yet and I suck at shffl'd up-airs.
>>340096530
But Melee is the more popular game :@)
>>340096770
competitively yes.
tr4sh is a game for casuals, of which 99% of /v/irgins are sadly.
>>340096189
>thread is full of namefagging
They should stay in /vg/
>>340096189
>game that /v/ can easily play from home and doesn't require direct human interaction is more popular on /v/
Scrub here. Still struggling to learn wavedashing, kind of got L- and crouch canceling. It helps that my main's only ground option is downtilt in the first place. :^)
>>340096914
it's cool tho, they organize tournaments and stuff. i can't remember when we last hosted a melee tournament, the guy who used to do them only does PM now i think.
where my peaches at?
how are those float-canceled nairs coming along?
>>340097702
how gay are you from 1-10
Who watchan /SSS/
this mario-jiggs team holy shit
>>340098615
Somewhere between Wife and MacD, but not nearly as gay as DoH
>>340098615
The only gay dude at my locals plays peach
I practiced doing more pivot shit as Falcon, I've gotten a bit better at doing backwards facing stomp from standing
Reply with falcon webms thanks
>>340100165
>>340100304
>Green marth
Is that you JetFuel
>>340100640
Everyone knows green marth has that voodoo magic mate.
>tfw you pop some addy and boot up netplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd3uVFQX3AY
>>340099648
yeah, doubles is pretty boring most of the time though.
What's his name again?
>>340096747
>Practice Pivot grabbing
>Practice SHFFLing
You also only have to pivot if they do ambiguous DI, otherwise you can just do turnaround grab.
>>340093930
Pretty good list. I kind of feel like samus goes over IC's with his logic though.
>>340097005
Go away smug Marth.
>>340091002
>That ugly-ass age rating
No thanks.
>>340090595
>Nintendo adds up a GC Virtual Console on NX, allowing players to play on HDTVs and monitors
>Runs at 30 fps
>>340091985
>Random
>Melee
Something doesn't add up.
Will he ever win a major again?
be straight with me
>>340102641
It might not have been melee, ever consider that?
>>340102742
No, not really, being Leffen and being posted in a Melee thread...
>>340102641
Select your cursor under Young Link or Falco in the empty spaces. The game will select a random character.
>>340102654
Solo?
No. I think there are players that play Falco that could do it, but they'd use secondaries.
>>340101826
captech chaseroll
anybody wanna play netplay
>>340102654
I like women.
>>340102836
leffen doesn't hate sm4sh actually, he probably plays it the most out of the gods (besides m2k obvious).
>>340102641
Underage b&
>>340102881
even pp had to go marth to beat armada at Apex.
>>340102654
>>340102881
If Jigglypuff can solo majors then so can falco.
>>340102654
not against armada or hbox
>>340103093
the sad part is that hbox himself is the reason it's basically impossible for falco.
if he didn't exist i think westballz would be in at least one major GF by now.
>>340093930
Falco better then Marth. I feel like Samus is better then Falcon, Falcon is better then Ices, Ices is better then Samus. Basically all a tie and put them all in B tier. I feel that Roy is getting slept on, although I do understand why he is there since all his moves can be countered by crouch cancelling.
>>340103247
Maybe westballz should stop fucking around with Fox, and try getting his free win on Yoshi's on his first try rather than his second.
>>340103112
PP can still do it if he shapes up
Mango could do it too, except for he wont since Fox is better, and because he wont put that scrubby-ass Marth away
>>340103356
PP is permacucked.
>>340093930
It's shit
>>340103448
Bro he has adrenal fatigue just give him a decade and he'll be back
>>340103247
>if he didn't exist i think westballz would be in at least one major GF by now.
lol no.
The only member of the top 6 he's even close with is Mango, even then he still has a losing record.
>>340103487
Nice critique. He literally provides analysis for each of the spots, how about you provide a list yourself or GTFO
What do you guys think of my tier list
I am a very good player :^)
>>340102224
I'm aware of that. The problem is that at a certain percent (20?) no DI is the ambiguous DI.
My problem with upairs is getting them out quickly as usually I use z for rising aerials.
>>340103539
>PP announces his return
>"I'm going to be competing at CEO 2017"
>everyone gets hyped and keeps bringing up Apex 2015
>he gets 9th place
>"I'm not going to be competing in tournaments for a while. I've been to the doctor and he said my vitamin e levels were 2.62% below average... no one knows what's wrong with me"
>2018
>PP announces his return
>repeat forever
>>340103834
this is the wrong image I apologise
disregard everything after DK
>>340103834
It's not any more shitty than Smash Fraud's
>>340103834
>Falcon not in Z
Opinion discarded.
>>340103638
He would beat m2k these days, just doesn't face him ever for some reasom. 2-1 vs. Leffen in the past 7 months. Always close games with Armada until he goes Fox. Taken numerous games off Hbox in the past year. Absolutely destroyed PP at Five Gods.
but have a (You)
>>340103920
Literally how does he even support himself? Does EG pay him to sit on his ass? The dude streams like 4 times a year.
>>340104113
good sponsor
gets about 50 subs every time he streams
doesn't ever leave his house so it's not like he wastes his money like mang0
>>340103247
>what is sandstorm
>>340103448
>cuck
Im so sick of you low-iq basement dwellers berating cuckolding.
1. Cuckolding is a natural and relatively common phenomenon practiced throughout evolution. Much of this was stifled through social institutions and religions.
2. However the modern era is uncovering these institutions and moving back more to our nature of cuckolding.
3. Black men have higher testosterone levels on average. Much of this is due to slavery, but nevertheless african americans have higher testosterone and related features, such as increased muscle mass, lower body fat, deeper voice, increased aggression and of course a bigger penis.
4. White males on average make the most stable provider and father figure.
Therefore,
Today's rapidly growing fetish of interracial cuckolding seems not only logical but natural. Long story short you are not only a virgin but an idiot.
>>340104008
>Has never taken a set off m2k
>2-1 vs a slumping leffen who wasn't able to attend tourneys.
>Nowhere close to beating Armada
>0-4 against Hbox this year alone
>Destroyed a slumping PPMD
Nah. Fuck off.
>>340104534
(You)
>>340104008
>Absolutely destroyed PP at Five Gods
literally everyone did he even lost to MacD I think? That whole tourney was pathetic
>>340104551
Didn't he have a close set with Armada at Sandstorm?
But then again >sandstorm
>>340104637
>>340104551
>Johnning for pp
literally fuck off. He beat him fair and square. I bet you're the same type of people who discount wins against 'losers m2k'.
>>340103834
S tier is a free win if you pick these characters. Wobbling should be banned.
Lasers are unbeatable in neutral. Captain Falcon has really hard combos like stomp into knee but if you can pull it off it's hype and destruction.
>>340104501
that's true, what a fucking wild tourney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oibyjHuTnc
>>340104763
Nigga PP got 3-0'd by MacD. Even MacD said it was sad.
No one's saying that Weston didn't beat him, but it was a day where PP lost to four people and only managed to take 2 games. The guy wasn't playing anywhere near his best ability.
>>340103965
>>340103969
nobody replied to the right one feelsbadman
>>340103936
>>340104829
I have no idea if this is a shitpost or not, but I can understand the rationale for saying Marth is garbo I suppose.
>>340104758
He got 3-0d.
>>340104763
PPMD is objectively shit atm until he comes back at EVO or another major and proves he's actually good.
>>340104829
>Wobbling
kys, my man.
>>340105227
>3-0 can't be close
cmon dawg learn what context is
>>340090595
A real game that's not outdated unbalanced trash, such as sm4sh.
>>340105357
Smash 4 probably has better character diversity at top level, but there are a lot of characters to begin with.
>nintendude's first SSS
time to prove whether or not he's good or just coasting in a shit region
>>340105464
All of his wins at nationals don't matter? M2K? Plup?
Should elo replace obviously biased miom rankings?
>>340105592
based Plup
>>340105551
m2k and plup had some of the worst sets of their life against nintendude, and you don't wanna be tilted against ICs ever.
but lately he hasn't been so hot, got like 17th at dreamhack and GOML
>>340105592
>PewPewU, a top 10 player last year, at 24
JUST
>>340105592
It would make more sense than having a once-a-year ranking
>>340105790
He really hasn't done anything of note since beating Hbox at APEX2015
>>340105790
When the fuck was ppu considered a top 10 player
>>340105592
This actually is a good list.
>>340105885
when sfat was still a fraud and Shroomed had just picked up sheik
he almost beat Leffen at INY (Got 4th), and was considered best in norcal
>>340105790
he got sponsored and has done jack shit since him and sfat are big chokers but sfat at least gets into top 8s but their teams is just so beautiful
>>340105349
Point is that he's still not close at all to beating Armada.
>>340106015
Everybody past Plup on MIOM is dogshit desu, doesn't matter where someone gets ranked from like #8-15
>>340105146
Correction: he lost to 5 players and took 3 games that day.
I wonder what the heck Tai is doing in Cali
anyway GG faceroll, not good enough to beat a great marth just yet.
Can people stop memeing over craptech chaseroll and how he's the goat until he actually wins something?
>>340106280
Armada admitted himself that westballz isn't that awful at the matchup.
and he literally always takes the yoshi's game as Falco.
his problem is just trying to get a free win with Fox.
>>340106413
he's literally a doc kid that's now top 10 in SoCal
that's unheard of, all the top players have been at it since like 2005
>>340103715
Here is my tier list, I hope it will change tge metagame as I am thew best player in my parent's basement
Where would Falco be without Shiz?
>>340090878
>/v/ users
>occasionally drop tech skill that felt like I hit
>sometimes have a visible jump during wavedashing
>sometimes I just shield instead of grab
This controller will be the death of me
>>340106761
Probably played in a more effective way instead of most trying to be walking combo videos
>>340106901
this
![COB0ihUUkAE3B5x[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/d68sObT.png "COB0ihUUkAE3B5x[1].png")
I'm pretty happy for Hugo. He went from quitting his job, to having 400+ subs and a sponsor in very little time.
he's a homie
>>340106969
>mfw he loses to Faceroll again
>>340106515
No one's saying hes awful at the matchup but he's taken 3 games total across every set against Armada. Westballz is really good but he's still got some work to do before he reaches Plup tier.
>his problem is just trying to get a free win with Fox.
I think it's just kind of hard to solo main once you hit a certain point and if you don't have a secondary you'll just get crushed unless you solo main fox.
http://challonge.com/revivalofvpm4
Join up kids
>>340107484
why don't you make a melee one famalam
>>340107196
faceroll is pretty damn good though. no shame in losing to him
>guy plays character who isn't high tier
>commentators are sucking their dick about how he's a god even though he's losing
>>340092971
you sound like this guy who got mad fucking salty when he lost against JJFF in tournament, calm down autismo
>>340103834
>Puff
>S-tier
>>340107714
>one of 3 characters to win a major in the past two years
>not S tier
Is he the most handsome top player?
>>340107884
Anyone east coast up for some games? I'm not that good.
![Abate_on_a_date[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/cuuuad5.png "Abate_on_a_date[1].png")
>>340107884
Abate is just as handsome tbqh
i see htis choma guy in literally every melee stream ever, i thought he was a top player or something
>>340108153
plup perennially looks he has a cold or something
>>340108153
plup looks like jedi who's tempted by the dark side
>>340106901
>>340106967
its like you faggots are implying 0 to death is bad
>>340108273
plup is a c u t i e
>>340103936
It's alright
I'd drop Falcon to B and swap DK with the Links
Also I think in the future Doc might get better as no one unlocked his potential yet
>>340107884
>>340108136
>No Abate vs Ice shirtless MM
westballz about to wreck this scrub with his fox
>>340108338
Wouldn't work in this era, hell it didn't even work in his
WESTON IS CRAZY (btw Weston is Westballz; I call him by his first name because we're cool like that. It's no big deal, really; we're just friends and all)
>>340108674
TWITCH MEMERS GTFO
>>340106703
had a laugh great moves Anon keep it up I'm proud of you
>>340108847
>>340108930
people who reply to this shit gtfo
>West practicing his tech skill against a genuinely good player
JUST
What's the fastest way to downtilt out of dash as Marth? Am I supposed to let the stick return to neutral before downtilting?
Here's another worthless tier list by someone who doesn't know shit.
>>340109282
I guess you could pivot
never really thought about it
>>340109341
>Marth is 2nd
reee
>>340109341
pretty respectable. i would move peach above falcon but that's about it.
>>340091002
>50Hz
>>340109341
I honestly think Marth should be in Fox's tier
>>340109728
>caring about sound quality
how autistic do you have to be?
>>340109642
So Peach does better than Falcon against:
1. Falco
2. ??????
I'd say Peach does worse against Marth and Puff, maybe even Fox.
Please explain this to me
KOOOOOPA NOOOOO
>nintendude wins
Get shit on you memers
>>340109979
Peach can recover
>>340109816
Don't forget that Marth has significantly worse matchup against characters you never see.
>>340109979
Not having one of the worst recoveries of anyone that's semi-viable at the very least?
>>340110080
ebin
>>340109979
Peach has out of shield options and can come back to the stage
this fucking commentary
stop riding this guys dick so hard
>>340110080
>>340110128
>>340110172
I didn't ask you FAGGOTS in what ways Peach is better than Falcon, I asked what MATCHUPS she does better in, since that's what a tier list is based on
>>340109979
It depends on what you value, but for the record Puff definitely beats Falcon and Marth as well.
Also head-to-head it's pretty dang even, and I say that as Peach main who struggles with the matchup.
I say it mainly for potential. Falcon's recovery and the fact that he's combo food holds him back imo. Peach obviously doesn't have the same zero-to-death opporunities that falcon does but she also can escape combos fairly easily.
>>340109282
Crouch canceling is probably the easiest way to go about it
>>340110290
>I asked what MATCHUPS she does better in, since that's what a tier list is based on
nigga what, recovery, moveset, and weight are also taken into account in tier lists.
>come to a good region
>can't beat the 24th best player
GET SHIT ON WOBBLEFAG
>>340109979
Falcon is better vs Marth, your other assessments are wrong. Peach isn't even bad vs Marth though, she really doesn't have any hard MUs
>>340110247
welcome to SS
>>340110290
are you retarded? that would be a match up list or chart shit
tiers take ways they are better into account
>>340110247
everyone loves rooting for low tier trash.
whats ur fav smash quote
"IMPLOSION"
-E1
>>340109979
Peach is like 70/30 or better against icies
>>340110535
>oh my god hella lit
>are you kidding me
>woooooooow
Can nintendude start wobbling and shit on these memers already?
>>340110483
>Peach isn't even bad vs Marth though, she really doesn't have any hard MUs
Nah, she definitely has bad matchups vs. Puff, Fox and Marth. But i agree that peach-marth is very very doable.
>>340110535
>t. fox main
>>340110627
>>340110697
oh man if he can just take this stock
oh my god nooo way
oh if he can just take this stock right now
noooo wayyyy
oh my god so crazy
he's a god bc he plays low tier character lol xD
>>340110697
>>340110904
>shitting on low tiers
If you lose to a low tier you're basically 10 times worse than your opponent, and got outplayed on every level.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
why bother playing as ICs if you aren't going to wobble
>>340110980
Mario hard counters ICs.
>Nintendude loosing to some noname Mario
My region is so fucking shitty
>the city of nintendude
>THE SHANTYTOWN OF MD FREE A
he should've wobbled him the entire set
>>340110753
Puff doesn't have setups on Peach, it's basically a ditto where one character is slanted to live half as long. And Peach Fox is pretty even too, you faggots just take Armada's word too seriously.
>>340111070
Best mario in the world now that a rookie got deported to some no-name region in florida
GET FUCKED YOU DUMB FUCK
>>340110998
Stop crying about wobbling now. If Koopa can best Nintendude I want no excuses from you high tier and Ganon mains that infest /v/.
>>340111056
the only two characters that hard counter icies are peach and ganon
>>340110784
That phone is so poorly designed. Holy shit. Apple sucks so much.
>>340111070
>A.Rookie some noname
Docukids like you make me sick.
kys
>>340109979
>>340110290
I'm sorry that everyone else is retarded. I think Falcon > Peach but just to answer your question, peach does better than falcon against falco, ICs, Yoshi, and Roy. Maybe Pikachu but I don't know much about that matchup.
>>340111213
Peach fucking destroys Pikachu with her downthrow chaingrab, as well as the Marios
>>340111070
>>>>noname
>>340111163
>Ganon mains
What's wrong with Ganon mains and ICs? Ganon wins that MU.
Peach is better than falcon due to the simple fact that she isn't a character based around hard reads
falcon needs 80% of his reads to go right while peach needs like 10-20%
Captech "sheik takes skill" Chaseroll
How come Westballz is playing Fox
>>340111487
>falcon needs hard reads
>>340111480
Nothing, we just have a lot of scrub Ganons here.
>>340111870
Because falco goes even with a lot of characters fox beats
>>340111487
Falcon does NOT need hard reads. His combo game is super safe. What he can't do is deal with pressure at all.
>>340111870
He's bored of steamrolling everyone at SSS with falco without having to try.
>>340112002
He also dies if he fucks up a single tech chase on fox or falco
>>340090595
Not getting so mad when I'm losing.
>>340111127
Why wouldn't they take the best Peach player in the world's opinion seriously over some 4chan scrub that probably goes 1-2 at his locals?
Did west end up beating our guy?
stepped out to the bathroom
WHO /KOOPA/ HERE?
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>340111127
Puff doesn't need setups to win when all she has to do is spam back air and peach can't do shit about it.
>>340093930
>>>>>>>>>>Peach beating Falco.
>>340112715
sorry mang, Hugs is inconsistent but the one thing he doesn't do is lose to low-tiers.
He's one of the best players at exposing gimmicks.
>>340112837
Peach eats Falco for breakfast if the player level is about equal.
>>340112837
It says it's not a losing MU, not that it's a winning MU.
>>340111127
>put out back air
>peach gets hit or can't hit you
>because she is a fatty with slow air speed she can't space nearly as well as puff
>literally can't come back if knocked below the stage
>game on Yoshi's Island
>Commentator: ____ kills really early on this stage
>>340112837
it's one of the most even matchups in the game.
as a peach main fucking idiot spacies do nothing but complain about >muh d-smash while they do nothing to bait it out
>>340112653
Hugs is still in, don't worry.
>>340112904
Yeah, he will just look like he lost because he wanted to condition for a match on a later date
>>340112940
we're not talking about low level. Falco has way too much tech at top level to not be at least 50-50
this matchup doesn't look THAT bad as mario, just impossible to kill samus before 200% basically. but the neutrals look farily even.
>>340112632
Because all Armada has done for his entire career is bitch about the character his opponent is using
Back before he played Fox it was easier to play Fox than a floaty, and now that he plays Fox he constantly has to pull out the Peach to deal with MUs that aren't Fox dittos
>>340113291
Mario cant kill anyone for shit, Doc is better
Squid is fucking this bitch while ur at home jerking it to traps on 4chan
whats your excuse /v/?
>>340090595
Preparing to liberate a server on ARK. Its gonna be a 10+ hour raid...
>>340113675
beat her in friendlies like 10 times on a rotation she sucks
>>340113675
thats just his roommate
>>340113675
>that skeleton
Am I supposed to be jelly?
>>340113675
He gets cucked by Alex19.
Forreal tho, I watched this video about fanciest players or some shit and Cakes was with this dude and the dude said that Cakes was like trying to be flirty and Cakes then said Squid and the dude low key gave a dirty ass look. They are definitely fucking.
>>340113675
she's cucking him with alex19 mate
>>340114016
video link please anon
>S2J going Falco
what is this
>johnny's falcon can't even beat SQUID so he has to use le lasers and down-air man
toppity kek
>>340114145
>what is this
It's you showing your docukid colors, docukid.
>>340114145
surprisingly has a decent pool of characters. Also has a Sheik and maybe a Marth
>>340114145
playing secondaries because Squid is free for S2J anyways
>>340102654
Westballz has a chance if he doesn't have to play any good floaties.
>>340114103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzSfrwWl50Q
It's so fucking funny, Squid gives her the dick good.
This channel is also really good, you guys should subscribe.
>>340114217
What were you saying again?
