Do you trust this man?
Not terribly much, no.
>>340080021
Who wouldn't trust Santa?
>>340080021
Wow, Robin Williams got pretty fat in the last months/years.
Only an evil person wouldn't trust Santa Claus.
Give me your phone number you little cocksucker piece of shit.
As far as I can throw him
FUCKING GENETICS
HOW DO THEY WORK
>>340080843
*tips fedora*
I suppose I do. I did give him my credit card details after all.
I suppose I'm a fool considering they have had multiple security breaches and in every case have taken days to let people know their information is potentially compromised.
After all this time of his company releasing f2p games, adding microtransactions, and trying to monetize everything, no, I don't trust him.
>>340080021
no
we will wait for gaben to sell valve off and us to get fucked over
>>340080021
He's a gambling kingpin basically, cases/crates/stashes whatever ya call it - it's gambling plain and simple. At least real casinos have the audacity wine&dine you before they take all your money.
>>340080021
>Hair and beard is two different colors
>>340081081
SHOVE YOUR AUTHENTICATOR UP YOUR ASS GABE
it's a matter of degree
he's lost a lot of trust over the paid mods issue, the fact that he still clings to it. he's going against The Internet, and he's supposed to be wiser than that. it's hard to trust his wisdom/perspective, any more.
however, on the flip-side, is what Valve has done with the Vive. they're probably the largest single contributor to making VR real (and it really is, regardless of how many /v/irgins cry out sour-grapes).
the real question now is if Valve can transition beyond him - he has to be retiring soon. most of the original members have already. just what will Valve be post-Gaben? literally what even will it be, legally/financially-speaking. will he just keep being the owner, and eventually it will fall to his heirs? or will he put it in some kind of trust?
Once, the beard was glory.
Now, the beard is travesty.
A legacy of lies is all he leaves us.
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
>>340080021
EYEWEAR AND FACIAL HAIR STATUS:
HIPSTER AS FUCK
>>340081369
I want one of those
Why wouldn't I? Santa is a cool guy
>>340081473
>He disagrees with a bunch of 13 year olds.
How does that make him unwise?
>>340081435
Type your phone number in the thing and press enter you cunt piece of dumpster shit.
>>340080021
i can't trust him to not eat the last yogurt in the fridge
>>340081946
I need one of those.
>>340081998
>Steam holds my trades hostage if I don't give them my phone number.
Remember when Steam's DRM was the lesser evil? Remember when they were remotely consumer-friendly in their practices?
>>340081986
>completely pointless hostile appeal-to-authority and strawman rhetoric
kill yourself, literal retard.
>>340081998
AT LEAST BRING YOUR FUCKING APP TO WINDOWS PHONE YOU FAT BASTARD. RELEASE HALF LIFE 3 AND STOP MAKING F2P SHIT.
>>340082424
You actually proved my point, thanks.
>>340081435
>>340081998
>>340082343
remember when the Steam Community Marketplace was briefly literally the #1 money-laundering mechanism in the world (or at least for Russian Organized Crime)?
not saying the authenticator doesn't suck. it really fucking sucks. they should have just banned all Russians from Steam altogether.
>>340081473
>going against the majority makes you unwise
Don't you dare bring up the earth being round fuccboi, this is a square planet board.
The only "bad" thing Gabe has done is completely distancing himself from video games in general and turning to hats for money.
I guess I can't blame him though, he's pretty old and if retards are willing to give their money, somebody's going to take it eventually.
>>340082343
The one and only time Steam has ever been the "lesser evil" of DRM was when Ubisoft idiotically implemented always online requirements.
Apart from that everything has either been better than Steam or on par with it.
Don't even bother to claim bullshit like Starforce destroyed hard drives or Denuvo cripples performance. These are utterly unsubstantiated claims coming from pirates and parroted by other pirates.
>>340082343
It kind of makes sense, considering there are people with thousands of dollars in their inventories, some probably in the hundreds of thousands. A bit surprised valve hasn't added mandatory identification requirements since one could argue they are a sort of a bank or a safety deposit box provider.
>>340082343
I remember when valve made it so I needed to have broadband to play Half Life 2.
That was literally the most cancerous drm I had encountered to that point
>>340082665
you don't remember how bad things were getting, for a while (up to the first few years of Steam, before it exploded into hegemony). forget 'always online', which has practically become the norm anyway. there were major, multi-million-dollar AAA releases shipping with literally broken DRM that would not let any user install the game at all. there were DRM schemes which limited lifetime number of installs. DRM mania was real and there is one read of history which would say it in fact DID destroy the PC games industry - and Steam exploded as it did because it was all that was left.
>>340083117
>there is one read of history which would say it in fact DID destroy the PC games industry
Bullshit. Always bought physical disks, never had any problems.
The "DRM mania" didn't even do an ounce of the damage microtransactions have done to the industry.
>>340083117
Complete and utter crap.
Before Steam the only DRM that existed, apart from shit like MMOs and Blizzard, was a CD key and CD check. There were no limited installs as there was no online component at all. The "broken DRM' was DRM complaining about shit like you running drive emulators, "imposter" software, debuggers, etc. at the same time you are trying to run the game. Close the offending applications and the game ran fine.
It was literally years after the release of Steam before online DRM started to appear in non-Steam games. And Steam didn't "explode" until well after this, when the Steam sales started up.
What features is Steam woefully missing?
I might like Steam if they still bothered to make games anymore.
Now they just sell unfinished games and cosmetics
>>340080892
or Jared.
>>340082819
>A bit surprised valve hasn't added mandatory identification requirements
they do after 100 trades if you live in the US
>>340084108
Sell your games. Good grief, If that would happen I would be swimming in yurobucks.
>>340083473
microtransactions didn't hurt the industry tho. People still bought cosmetics and shit with it
literally the only reason tf2 stayed alive as long as it is
wasn't a failure, you just don't like it
Holy fucking shit Sir_Snipalot_69, just give me your phone number. It's that easy. I know you're in this fucking thread you ungrateful fucking faggot.
>>340084108
So they think having a broken browser that freezes up all the time is a necessary addition to the Steam overlay but not "note taking" feature? I would love to see something like that, might actually use the overlay then.
>>340080021
GUYS! I FIGURED IT OUT!
Back then Gabe didn't really have a beard when we all loved him, but in his recent pictures the beard seems stronger and thicker and this started to grow when he made really evil decisions! Its not Gabe! Its the beard! The beard is controlling Gabe!
>>340084901
>third-worlders are still asshurt about the phone number thing
>>340080021
I wonder what changed him into jaded man he is now.
Money?
>>340085086
>phone verification for selling a card for $0.10
No fuck off
>>340084901
Sent ;)
>>340085173
Its always money anon.
Its what america runs on.
Justice isn't true, Its just money!
>>340085173
All that's changed is the internet is no longer applauding his jewery.
He's the same man he always was, it's just taken this long for people to realize what sort of man he is.
>>340085234
>>340085086
>third worlders too poor to own phones and cannot host scams on steam anymore
>paranoid fat white boys too paranoid to give valve phone numbers because they think they'll be tracked down and eaten by wild packs of road mice
>steam now has less cucks
REALLY makes ya ThiNK DOESN't iT?
>>340085086
I just haven't put in my phone number yet.
>>340085493
Well shit, I'm both fat, white and a boy so really makes me think
>>340082665
Did you ever try using GFWL? From the standpoint of convenience, at least Steam provided a functional interface and worked properly more often than not. I'm not saying it's preferable to no DRM; that's completely unattainable.
>>340082819
It makes sense as an optional feature for morons who know they can't protect their accounts. There's no reason for it to be mandatory. My inventory isn't worth shit, and I don't want to alt-tab into my e-mail inbox then wait two weeks every time I gift an Eyelander to a F2P.
>>340085447
He was always a suit in disguise but he did give fucks about games.
In a way, I hate the man less than the fuckers among you that supported him and allowed him to be what he is today.
He never really lied about what he is.
Which is why so many of us were against what Valve was attempting with online authentication from the start. Not enough of us though.
>Millions of girls gave him their phone number
>>340085908
>that's completely unattainable.
If enough customers just said no to that bullshit, then there would be no DRM. What would those companies do? Shut the door because the consumers are meanies? They'd just cave in.
>>340085953
He gave a fuck about games to the extent that, once upon a time, to make money you needed to make a good game.
Games don't need to be good to make money any more.
>>340081032
Anon. I have some bad news for you: Robin Williams is dead.
>Laughter stops.jpg
>>340080021
>trusting a business man
Only the foolish
>>340081081
I don't even have a fucking phone. I'm not some kind of normie with friends or a job, who leaves the house and needs to be available.
what's happens to valve when he dies?
>>340086485
Lies, he just contributed music to the upcoming Finding Dory!
>>340086762
>Robin
>not Robbie
Learn to read baka
>>340086949
Trolling is a art. And all that jazz.
>>340080021
I don't think even valve fag trusts him.
i trust him more than more than most people in the games industry
(AKA not a huge amount)
but valve, despite having a big PC gaming monopoly, have not really abused their monopoly so far. e.g. steam games can have non steam releases, steam games can be distributed without steamworks DRM, game devs can generate steam keys for games that people have bought on other distribution systems, steamVR and steamOS are open-source, steamVR supports the oculus rift, etc
my biggest gripe about valve is that they don't make fucking games
i don't partake in the whole crates\gambling thing and i think if you do then you're retarded and you can't blame gabe
i also have no idea why people get so pissed off about steam guard and steam authentication
>>340080021
Look at his eyes. There is nothing left inside.
>>340080021
>>340081081
>>340081998
>>340084901
Stop trying to scam people and maybe he won't ask you for it.
Literally every single cancerous business practice that emerged in the last decade (that didn't come from mobile games) came from valve.
>>340087263
>i also have no idea why people get so pissed off about steam guard and steam authentication
I just love not being able to sell, lend or trade my games anymore.
>>340087263
>i also have no idea why people get so pissed off about steam guard and steam authentication
They're hardcore libertarian Ayn Rand types who expect handouts and get angry when they don't get them, like most libertarians.
>>340087759
try not being a poor autist
>>340087408
Listen here, nigger.
These fagulas are in real danger if they don't register their numbers, you got that?
>>340087680
H-heh. Prove it, kid.
>>340081558
>dat pic
every time
>>340087680
Nope. You can blame Microsoft for DLC, paid online, the explosion of dev costs that led to the adoption by big publishers of a hit-driven market model to kill the competition of the small and middle sized studios, along some EEE harmonization shenanigans for good measure, Microsoft gonna Microsoft.
That being said, its easy to see Valve was founded by former MS employees. And the company holds its share of fucking things up.
>>340080021
He's a hack who worked for micro$haft.
He insists on making you launch his shitty DRM program every time you want to start a game, even though SteamWorks DRM is a fucking joke.
>>340087408
How about retards stop falling for obvious scams
>>340080021
no he's the reason valve stopped making single player games and started only making hats and milking people on steam
>>340080021
Hes the best,wouldnt doubt
>>340080021
gabe looks like a pedophile
>>340087909
Not a matter of being poor., you miscarriage waste If anything, the one thing Valve did right is courting the poor people that couldn't afford games especially in third world countries (and that's the only good I will concede to Valve, giving legal access to games to people in these countries).
>>340087827
I fail to see how advocating against the renegotiation at a loss of ownership of sold software is being a libertarian waiting for handouts. Not to mention the artificial closing of what once was an open platform (it's funny how Valve is only against enclosing when it's the one risking being left out).
>its been 5 years since valve released a singleplayer game
>>340088913
and it's been almost a decade since they've released a good game
>>340088913
>Valve isn't a video game making studio anymore
>>340088894
>Not a matter of being poor., you miscarriage waste If anything
what the fuck are you trying to tell me, shitskin? learn english before trying to talk shit on an english-speaking forum.
>>340080021
I used to.
Not anymore though.
>>340080021
I only trust heroes.
>>340089150
>My god a typographical mistake! There's a misplaced full stop, my brain can't process that sentence!
For fucks sake, I wasn't lying about the miscarriage waste part. Let me guess, your mother threw you in the trash bin at birth and mistakenly tried to raise the placenta for years before realizing her mistake?
>>340080021
No.
>>340080021
Not since the piss poor jewish excuse of a battle pass they just released.
>>340080021
- tried to entrap a minor
- FBI informant
- first to implement skinner box model on massive consumer scale in order to covertly introduce gambling to minors
- forced by the EU to implement refunds
- turned PC market into a DRM laden spyware land
- consumers don't own the games they buy as a result
- pushed for division and destruction of inherently free modding scene
- funded esports putting personalities and shills in front of the games that are only vehicles for aforementioned gambling models anyway
- tried and succeeded in turning himself into a benevolent meme driven by consumers and shills long before reddit became popular
Can't think of a more harmful influence on video games. He proved that video games can actually be harmful to children.
>>340089470
Look at all this brownhaired Whitey McStubbles.
As if I didn't see enough of this faggot in the lead of games that'd be much more fun with a half-rocket/half-platypus in the lead.
>>340084619
It killed PC gaming because now instead of making a solid game, you just need to do bare bones shit and then have the community make skins and mods you can sell.
>>340082647
I still bet the meta economy of TF2 and other Valve games are controlled by Valve itself to jack up the prices of their virtual shit. Just get in touch with the Jews who started with it and conspire like hell.
>>340089928
Don't talk shit about my heroes. They've done more than you ever will. They saved lives.
>>340089747
>- turned PC market into a DRM laden spyware land
DRM sure but spyware? you obviously don't know fuck
>>340089747
>- consumers don't own the games they buy as a result
This is because of publisher EULA, not because of steam specifically
>>340089747
>>340090784
>He doesn't know the shit Steam does
You poor fool.
>>340090867
Who was the original publisher for the first games on steam and opened the flood gates?
>>340091005
>>He doesn't know the shit Steam does
>You poor fool.
Please provide source on Steam being a spyware
>>340091005
>Who was the original publisher for the first games on steam and opened the flood gates?
it hardly matters "who did it first" its the fact that publishers create and push EULA's that you agree to, its not even a new thing. Sony and Microsoft, EA/Origin and Ubisoft all have EULA's for their platforms as well, don't try and sidestep that this is a steam only issue
>>340080021
Half Life 1 is great but that's about it.
>>340089659
>getting this mad over a phone number
yeah, I trust him.
>>340090867
Well, technically it's more about the mandatory authentication + account tying scheme making second hand market impossible.
There tends to be a voluntary misconception about the possible interpretations of the word "own" when discussing that issue. You don't own the game - but then in that sense of "own", even the publisher doesn't. You do own your copy of the game. And now, the copy has been made untransferable. Legally you still have the right to sell, lend or gift the copy (at least in civilized countries). But it's been made value-less.
And that's before going into the purely digital marketplace related issues.
>>340091128
>Please provide source on Steam being a spyware
[frantic googling intensifies]
>>340090926
>>340091084
Valvedrone damage control team is on the scene. I thought you faggots all went to Reddit.
>>340091128
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/176829-valve-trust-us-our-vac-anti-cheat-software-isnt-interested-in-your-porn-surfing-habits
>it hardly matters "who did it first"
Yes it does, if one does it, everyone else will follow because it's seen as acceptable. Look at all your really old games from the 8, 16, 32 and 64 bit eras and read the ToS, they say no where they you do not own the game, only that you are not allowed to copy it. Now, it's common place to say you are not the owner of the game. Who really got that rolling? Valve.
Don't really care about him.
Steam has become super stagnant though
>>340080021
Not after the paid mods fiasco and the fact that I have to give him my phone number.
>>340091893
whats that picture?
>>340092695
Some of the code for Valve's Spyware.
Look it up yourself on your computer
>get around to selling all my cards
>remember that idle master is a thing
>install and run that
>500 cards available, so like $30/~3 games on sale for doing nothing
>mfw I remember I have to confirm each and every card using their laggy as fuck mobile client
Why can't I turn this shit off for like just an hour
>>340089078
>portal 2 was bad
>>340092893
>Some of the code for Valve's Spyware.
I realize what it is but what is it doing?
i need to update the collage
>>340091893
>http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/176829-valve-trust-us-our-vac-anti-cheat-software-isnt-interested-in-your-porn-surfing-habits
none of this even touches what a spyware actually does or is. Its like you didn't even read the article you googled
>>340093539
Scanning and saving your DNS and browser history and sending it all back to Valve.
>>340092893
No it isn't, you posted a picture of some obscure ints and char digests. Do you even know what goes into programming or did you just google some image that you think supports your retarded narrative?
>int v1
>int v3
>unsigned int v2
>char digest
>int dnsfree
a fucking integer called "dnsfree"
Theres nothing here but someone setting up int names and shit
>>340093674
So Spyware that looks at your browser history and then sends what it finds to a third party without your knowledge of permission isn't spyware?
Are you stupid or just in full damage control?
>>340093715
3 things wrong with that
1. your picture isn't "scanning and saving your DNS and browser history"
2. thats called a tracking cookie if anything
3. your picture isn't even of something that looks like a tracking cookie
Also if you were so paranoid and you think I'm magically wrong or all of your tinfoil shit is true, then why would you run steam when you aren't playing a game?
>>340094056
>So Spyware that looks at your browser history and then sends what it finds to a third party without your knowledge of permission isn't spyware?
thats not even the definition of a spyware. A tracking cookie does that, even then what you posted isn't even a tracking cookie
>are you stupid?
your disinfo is wickedly stupid
>>340086105
>women
>using Steam
>>340093252
>portal 2 was good
>>340093252
it was
>>340094148
>A tracking cookie does that
>Anti-spyware programs often report Web advertisers' HTTP cookies, the small text files that track browsing activity, as spyware. While they are not always inherently malicious, many users object to third parties using space on their personal computers for their business purposes, and many anti-spyware programs offer to remove them.
>>340094148
So are you implying legislative action wasn't taken against tracking cookies by the US and EU and it's perfectly fine? Or the fact that cookies are used through the program you're using at the time and they normally don't go into other parts of your computer to scan them like Steam does?
Give me a break.
>>340094709
>So are you implying legislative action wasn't taken against tracking cookies by the US and EU and it's perfectly fine?
What does this even mean? You're saying because congress hasn't acted on obfuscating and obscure code and cookies is somehow testimony that its "okay"? Jesus you're projecting hard.
>>340094697
its not even a tracking cookie. What you described was a tracking cookie, what the article references ISNT EVEN SPYWARE NOR A TRACKING COOKIE!
That Code you posted is actually a .dll used in steam to detect hacks of other .dll's that reach out to known malicious websites that connect to hacking programs. Even then thats only for fucking VAC which is garbage on its own.
Christ you're fucking stupid
>>340095001
Cookies are described as spyware and an invasion of privacy, legislation was passed to regulate cookies.
It doesn't change the fact that steam downloads code onto your computer to scan your browser history and send it back to Valve without your consent.
>I-i-it's only VAC, so it doesn't matter!
He's running out of steam for his damage control lads. Also the fact they're using VAC as the excuse to put spyware in your computer makes it all the more suspicious.
>>340095001
I'm not describing anything. As a third party in that conversation that lacks intimate knowledge about the subject, I'm just pointing out that you seem to be saying that, as a tracking cookie does that, it makes the practice described acceptable, while the wikipedia page on spyware *does* stipulate that tracking cookies *can* be treated as spyware by users and professionals *because* they do that.
>>340094196
He meant "millions of girls(male)"
Yeah I trust the shit out of him. Unfortunately he doesn't oversee Steam like he used to.
>>340080021
Yes i do, i am a steam fanboy though ... i can't help it.
yes, and he's literally responsible for me making a living. I love and trust him
The Steam authenticator shit is the most annoying thing Valve has ever come up with.
I hate everybody that gave in and uses it.
>>340097745
*Steam* is the most annoying thing Valve has ever come up with.
>>340098061
I beg to differ.
>>340098204
Well, without Steam being architectured as it, there wouldn't be a need for said authenticator, for one.
>>340098427
There is no need for an authenticator.
They came up with an artificial problem.
>Still no hl3 or hl2 ep3
>>340098427
And there is no need for the Steam client. Yet they still thought it was a good thing to make it mandatory.
>>340090243
the truth is even scarier.all of Valves in-game economies are just experiment testbeds. Valve doesn't give a single shit about earning profit from them, and possibly don't. they're playgrounds for AIs to learn to play the real stock market.
