>invade some guy
>at least 2 summons
Every fucking time.
>>340074464
Why is this a constant complaint from you faggots? How fucking easy do people need their invasions? You're there to kill someone in a game where hosts die all the fucking time. Not only that, but unless the host seeds the world you have the entire level and all the enemies at your disposal. I only do invasions and I absolutely hate coming across a solo host. Invaders should revel in the chaos and trying to wipe out a host's phantom army. If it's a 1v1 you want find a fucking fight club.
>>340075274
>WAAAAH I CAN'T WIN WITHOUT P-P-PHANTOMS WAAAH WAAAAAAH SNIFF SNIFF WAAAAAAAH
>>340075426
Did you miss the part where I said I'm the invader and I don't like solo hosts or are you just this much of a fucking autist?
>invading in dark souls 3
are you retarded?
what you do is you get to an area you want to fight in and then use dried finger.
boom, neverending pvp against shitters probaly 20 levels lower than you and with +8 weapons.
WEOW
Mound makers are the only good covenant in the game. Why the fuck would you ever invade a world with 3 people in it? As a mound maker you can still invade all you want, but you can get a victory by killing a few phantoms instead of only having to go for the host. Really its the only covenant balanced around the huge amount of help the host gets.
>be invaded by some guy
>always play alone
>he plays like a hyper aggressive faggot and dies to r1 spam
Every fucking time.
>>340074464 (you)
>"i want to fight fair"
>uses the mobs to kill you
>"if it's part of the game, it's fair"
>summons or blue phantom
>"n-n-not fair!"
typical
>>340075426
>>340074464
Must be hard being shit at the game and autistic
Stop being a salty cuck and get good. Oro and Peeves can kill gankers with ease. You're just bad at the game
>>340075931
and the mound makers leaves a loot when you defeat them!
>>340075818
That's pussy shit I want to kill people and send them back to the bonfire having to summon their phantoms and get their souls back
Most people have the phantoms ostensibly for PvE in the area. Bitching about it is silly.
>>340076540
Let's not pretend like having 2 phantoms at all times is the only advantage a host gets in Casual Souls 3
>>340074464
I thought it was too imbalanced at first, but the more I invade, the more I like the way they did it. It's not uncommon to get a number of kills before you go down, or to be able to manage killing the whole group. It feels good.
Use the environment to your advantage and use dirty tactics. It's a different ball game than your standard duels.
>>340076601
>killing gankers on console where all the normie casuals are
sure is impressive
>>340074464
welcome to dark souls 3
>>340074464
https://youtu.be/dsLkTsFcRAU
Just tumblebuff your moonlight greatsword and oneshot everyone. Gotta win.
>>340074464
>invade at ruins
>not running at the fire spewing demons
>not knowing you can attack and aggro BKs to them
>not BCing out if the phantom army uses a seed
>shield of want
You deserve it.
There's many weapons that help during those situations.
>>340077682
I think its fair.
Back in the earlier games the odds were always in the favor of the ganker, since in all likelihood you would be wearing endgame gear and have an OP as fuck weapon while going up against some random dude who has only been playing for about an hour.
Now that you fags can't just invade people and ruin their game without having to put up a real fight you throw a shitfit. Hilarious.
>>340077908
>many weapons
>post one weapon with a 70 stat point requirement
Nice game
>>340077908
Okay.
I'm sure that weapon will work great with my Dex build.
>>340077205
>fuck gankers
>killing casuals isn't impressive
>doesn't see the disconnect
>>340078169
Haven't tried it yet.
Can purple phantoms attack red phantoms?
>>340075615
you're full of shit and a fucking lying, phantom summoning faggot trying to sound like a hardass le git gud dark souls """""""""""pro"""""""""""
>>340074464
>go to /v/
>thread about how invading in DS3 sucks
Every time
>>340076601
>namedropping some dark souls e-celebs or streamcucks or /vg/ namefags or whatever like people are suppposed to recognize them
I hate this new system. At least Bloodborne had an area where you could invade people solo, DS3 has nothing.
>>340078475
maybe you wouldn't see these threads if invading wasn't shit
>>340078475
the truth is that /v/ is full of salty shitters, not only for this game, but most of them really. Playing with people from /v/ is always a terrible experience
>>340078692
yeah you're the only good player around anon, give yourself a nice pat on the back
Reminder that glaives are fucking broken
>>340078636
Technically you can still invade solo people, it just doesnt happen frequently because normies always play with the highest amount of summons possible, even if it makes the game fucking retarded
>Co-oping Dragonslayer's Armour
>Faggot summons 3 phantoms
>Boss now has a bizillion health and dumbasses die in 2-3 hits
>>340078307
whatever you say faggot
>make level 20 twink with RAW +2 Dragonslayer Axe
>toss on a gold pine resin
>destroy everything I come into contact with, including every single gank squad I fought
>fuck up some faggot and his two NG++ friends wearing full havels
This thing is the GOAT twink weapon.
>>340079158
>hurrr look at these items i just cheat engined in
grab a rope, tie a noose and kill yourself
>>340078810
I'm just average, but thank you for proving my point.
>>340079275
>ps4
>cheat engine
Must be hard to be this retarded.
>>340078842
>outranging a dragon slayer spear
>those recovery times
>that attack speed and damage
>hyperarmor
>combos
The fuck were they smoking
>>340079214
Did that thing got an adjustment? I've noticed that Creighton does a LOT more damage with it during his encounters.
>>340079437
oh yeah i forgot you can't use a ps4 controller with a pc.......................................
>>340078287
summoned purples can attack anything
They made the red orb too easy to get. If it had been a challenge, casual shitters like OP wouldn't be able to invade at all, and we wouldn't have to keep having this thread.
>>340078287
Yeah, red phantoms can attack red phantoms. There's no friendly fire for host summons but if you try to coordinate with a red spirit you can still rek each other
>>340074464
>Invade someone at arch dragon peak first bonfire
>host has died
I farmed like 10 tongues like that.
>>340079527
The base damage and raw damage got buffed. You can two-shot most everyone with a +2 RAW version of it early on
>>340079648
>LOL UR A CASUAL
he says as he hides behind an army of phantoms
>>340079214
>still can't find the source of this picture
aaaaaaa
>>340075426
mad as fuck, shit invader LMAO
>>340079470
Couldn't care less, it's about time halberds got some love after sucking for two games.
>>340078636
I've been invaded solo three times in Farron and twice in Cath of the Deep so far
>invade some guys home
>wave gesture
Really bitch?
>Proceed to open a hole in his stomach and gut him like a fucking pig
>>340080242
I actually get invaded a lot in the dungeon and the cathedral.
>>340079572
quick, come up with another excuse
>>340078307
2mad
>>340080484
nice fake tv you glued a picture you printed out with your fax machine
>>340080379
Your webm sucks and your shtick is tired
>>340079854
It worked in DaS1, if you wanted to invade in early areas you had to beat 4 Kings at a low level, which wasn't stupidly difficult but was enough to keep casuals out. When you saw that "invaded by dark spirit" message you knew you were up against an experienced player. When you see it in DaS3, you know you're getting another bowing Estus-chugging Dark Sword user like OP.
>>340080662
Hahahah. If you are OP I might actually be starting to like you. Please never change.
>>340080379
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/Dark%20Souls%20III%2005.24.2016%20-%2011.04.23.09.DVR.webm/
>>340080484
Stop being such a fucking try hard you faggot
>>340075931
>invade as mound maker
>passively watch the host progress with no weapons out
>throw dung pies while they're distracted
>randomly switch between attacking dark spirits, blue/white phantoms and the host
best cov
>>340079774
I love that place.
>>340075931
Eh.
Would be more cathartic if it had a real impact on the host.
Like somehow preventing him from just fucking resummoning 2 seconds later.
At least temporarily removing his friendly phantom slots.
>>340080163
>BKG in 1
Don't lie anon.
>>340074464
Honestly the most fun I have is only from 3v1 fights between theml and me, you have to be super shit to not like situations like what you listed.
>>340081514
Your (you) has arrived courtesy of all that tryhard edge.
>>340080763
You also knew they gad +10 weapons and armor and were impossible to damage while hitting for almost your whole lifebar and having dozens of full HP heals.
Fighting in 1 if you were not an anti twink was impossible. Just like going against three phantoms.
>>340078307
>projecting this hard
Why do blues suck so much at their job?
>>340080962
What the fuck, man.
>>340074464
So annoying seeing these threads, all these shitty invaders that dont know about the Scared Flame secret
>>340082818
>getting hit by sacred flame
You'd kill them with a hornet parry if they're that bad.
>>340080379
You've posted this shit before baiting for replies, autist
>>340080962
Was it autism?
>>340075274
>Unless the host seeds
This isn't a particularly rare event.
The game gives you access to seeds from the very start of the game.
And it's a really weird choice as well.
Rolling is buffed.
So is way of Blue since you can just always equip it on the fly.
And you can have 3 phantoms out in the field which isn't significantly counterbalanced by the second invader since there is friendly fire.
And there's no poise at all so 4 man gank squad is perfectly fine with wrecking you.
And matchmaking this time is incredibly fair in terms of invader-host.
And Invaders are penalized twice by missing out on both embered status as well as half their Estus flasks (Rounded down).
And obscuring ring doesn't even really seem to work half the time with specific things not even having the common decency to be invisible on your character model.
The host has basically everything going for him.
Sure I get a real rush from one-shotting a hosts dumb buddies with a jumping attack off a ledge but a host with no interest in progressing through the level and a seed active can just dodge away from you forever and wait for blues of dubious ability and resummon phantoms forever.
All in all I think you're really overstating how easy reds have it.
Maybe the area covenants are decent because at least they 100% have an ally of certified non-backstabbing quality.
>>340082818
>You have to run a specific glitch build and put enough points into ATT to have 2 slots
You have to have iron flesh active for it to even work because poise doesn't work and then all the host needs to do is skirt around you like a bitch the whole time.
It has a long windup as well so if the host even has an inkling of an idea as to what you are doing they can just dodge you. It's basically like getting hugged by the preachers grab attack. That's how predictable that shit is.
>go to woods
>NG+4
>summon Hodrick
>hide
Who needs fuckbuddies when I got an NPC like Hodrick?
>>340078086
Dragonslayer Axe is just as good without the FAI requirements.
>>340084263
How is dragonslayer axe any similar to morne's?
>>340075274
>in a game where hosts die all the fucking time
lol, not in DS3. Game's way too fucking easy.
>>340085810
>invade in archives or archdragon
>half the time host dies before I can find them
>>340086073
love to know what they're dying to. Archdragon Peak at least has the giant serpent men, but everything in the archives is completely harmless.
>>340086281
In archives it's the curse bookcases. There's a lot of retards out there.
>>340086645
Plus the little shits with the axes can combo a shitter easily, and the Pontiff Outrider Knight can fuck people up too.
Christ I've had like 9/10 wins low level with the dragon slayer axe plus 2 raw. In crushed ganks and crushed two sentinels. Shits so cash. BUT for my level 90 char I barely pull a fuckin win, at that point people have equipment equal to mine and always run a squad. Invasions are impossible and I'm forced to use great axe plus hornet ring
>>340086973
>I twink because I suck
>>340077682
>invader loses absolutely nothing unless they invade with souls like an idiot
>host has literally everything to lose
>lol it shud b fair 4 me im risking so much!!!
If you were good you could kill multiple people.
>>340074464
Maybe you shouldn't invade close to the entrance of a boss fight fag
>>340087314
>literally everything to lose
>>340077205
>killing gankers on console where all the normie casuals are
Souls belongs on console. Also wouldn't having to adjust to poor fps and therefore less precise mechanics make them better? It's like the hyperbolic time chamber of invasions.
>>340080662
10/10 man that was good.
>invading
boring as shit
come play with the big guys in SL120
>>340079158
>only 3 shackles
wrong covenant, faggot
>>340089523
Agreed, but waiting for Mound Maker invasions to go through can be infuriating. Fingers are almost instantaneous.
>>340079572
in his defense, you can use a ps4 on pc but in dark souls 3 the onscreen button prompts will be for an xbox controller
As someone who had to pvp a lot for all the achievements, I'm glad invaders are having it harder this time around. They had it too easy in previous games. Now's there' more appropriate checks and balances
>>340087253
Nah, lemme just get a quick parry and win the match. Shits easy. I don't find that fun, especially since there is a long sword meta for everyone
>>340090519
They're just as fast, if not faster because mound makers have a better range.
>>340090519
I've never had a problem waiting but I haven't played in a couple of weeks
>>340074464
heres what you do, bait them into chasing you and then run circles around them, every time they try to hit you they will lose momentum and you can keep running, eventually they will die of frustration, ive gotten 15 vertebra shackles by doing this alone.
>>340074464
>invade some guy
Stop being a faggot
>>340090894
I must have shit luck then because it normally takes rounds of "searching for a world to invade" before most invasions go through as MM
>>340091147
Maybe you're at bad places for your range. You can also finger yourself since you get a shackle for purple kills too.
>>340091147
maybe you're not in an area that's appropriate to your level?
>>340082297
I think most blues are so amazed that they got summoned in to do something that they're too bewildered to focus on what they're doing.
>>340083467
I usually just bait them by showing my back then turn around with the grab and it almost always works, Out of like 30 invasions only like 2 were smart enough to know what was up
>>340091645
ive seen plenty of videos where a blue is just standing there, and a few times personally I've seen blues just afk in my world
Feels good being a blueberry. I just love murdering scumfuck reds alongside the host and his buddies with my astora greatsword, which basically turns the invaders ability to estus without being punished off.
Cry more faggot.
>>340081676
stay casual
>>340091778
A lot of people leave their game on as a blue while they're sleeping in the hopes of getting summoned. Even if the host or summon kills a red in the process of them being asleep, it counts towards that end goal of getting 30.
Souls covenants have always been tremendously stupid.
>>340091418
Already maxed out devotion to MM anyway at this point so I'm just invading for fun anymore
>>340091419
SL110, only consistent invasion spots seem to be archives, peak, and sometimes lothric castle.
>>340092415
>110
That's the club meta, you'll only find people in late game areas.
60 is best for most invasions.
>>340092202
That's retarded.
>>340092415
I was getting fairly constant invasions at SL70 in lothric castle, man I have to wonder how most of them even got that far.
>Invaders don't have it easy to they cry
Every fucking thread is this shit just made for yous?
>>340081448
Its about fucking over the phantoms. Sends them back to their word, wastes their time. Then the host pussies out and sprints back to the fire, wastes his time too and gets him butthurt
>>340092884
you should really read over what you write before you post.
>>340092686
makes sense. I thought maybe I'd be catching people on their NG+ or later run throughs. Or do I have to be on NG+ myself to do that?
>>340080962
>invade a host by themselves
>start kicking the shit out of them
>chug that sweet sweet OJ and proceed to run to the bonfire
>SUMMONING SUMMONING SUMMONING
I like how the PvP was never fucking good or even improved on. Ever. Miyazaki has no idea what he's doing.
>Prioritize hosts with summons so you get gank fucked, there's now dedicated 4-man gank squads who just wait for invaders to show up all day
>A guaranteed R1 from small curved swords lead to a guaranteed multi-hit combo that deals just as much damage as two hits from a fucking great axe. Why? Fuck you.
>Too many i-frames on rolls, way, WAY too many i-frames on quickstep weapon art.
>If a host and his gank team refuse to chase you, you're bound to die unless you use a specific build with specific weapons and specific rings so you can tryhard parry and one-shot them all
>NEEDING a specific build and weapons just to deal with ganks
>People wonder why so many prefer to just duel
>Even in duels, the netcode is still the same old shit from back in Demon's Souls so you have to assume every faggot with a straight sword basically has a spear
Every time they improve on one thing, twenty more go wrong. You've always needed specific builds (dex with fast weapons, specifically) to stand a chance in PvP, and trying anything "fun" will grant you frustration at the fact that your fun build is no match for the "meta" of the month and whatever bullshit weapon everyone is using. Patches and updates don't seem to help, ever.
My advice is to just either give in to the meta and become a shitter, or just play it for the fun and don't think about all the garbage bullshit.
>>340087807
dead wrong on this one
recently played ds3 on a ps4 at a friends house, not only did i fuck everyone up but the wedges in the frame rate showed significantly. i'd much prefer play on a PC, not to mention another friend of mine has a high end monitor which made the game look even more impressive on his PC.
>>340080962
>>340074464
>Get invaded
>Invader is meta shitter using a Dark Sword or Estoc
>Wreck his shit with a few hits because he literally didn't spec whatsoever into vigor
>Get invaded again
>Similar invader with similar metashitter weapon
>Repeat
This has normally been my playthrough of Dark Souls III. Finished the game and it's still the same shit. I'm just going to wait for the DLCs and move on at this point.
>>340074464
I actually agreed with how shit invasions were until I recently went back to DaS1 to do a funsies co op run with friends. Literally every invader we came across was a twinking fag who could one shot each one of us. This game's system may he shit, but it's better than the alternative
>>340095356
They've all been shit in various ways. Demon's was the king of shit, but went so far that it came back around and was just stupidly fun for being shit.
Dark 1 was their first try at being "really PvP." It was a colossal failure because one or two mechanics were just broken. 2 was 2, and just didn't really engage a lot of people. Its covenants were just fairly pointless, non-functional or otherwise not relevant to PvP. 3's, of course, is hyper paranoid about disappointing people, and so ends up disappointing everyone.
>>340095761
What was wrong with 1 besides twinking? I've heard about rolling havels but haven't seen any myself.
3 could have been perfect if they just made invasions not prioritize groups and given blueberries a blue eye orb and not prioritize new profiles.
>>340074464
Maybe he trying to fight a boss instead of dealing with a dipshit like you
>>340096284
Rolling havels was before they patched the flip ring so it's not a thing anymore.
>invade a guy
Go kys edgelord
>>340078636
when i play solo and i am running out of estus i use them fingers and there we go, free estus refill no charge for delivery.
>>340096284
Twinking was never as big a problem as people made it out to be. You might see one twink every six playthroughs, and only in the burg, assuming you even bother to go human. If you died, you lost no souls unless you were shit. And even then you lose about 1000 souls, which is like one enemy kill later in the game. It's fucking nothing. Honestly, the constant bitching about it is what caused soul memory to happen. Thank stupid loudmouthed faggots for that one.
The core problem in 1 for PvP was backstabbing, poise, and animation speeds. Most people would just try to exploit bad Souls latency and the very wide backstab cone on everyone by just strafing to one side until the game dropped a few packets - enough for them to BS phish you down to 10% health in one move. If you attacked or tried to kick them, you'd miss them since they were too close and they'd BS you anyway. A lot of magic and heavy weapons especially were useless in PvP because they were incredibly slow, so they just never hit anyone. Rolling was incredibly good, especially with the "ninja flip ring," so even if you didn't get stunned out of the animation, they'd just roll through everything. Poise would also be a problem sometimes with people who'd run around wearing havel's or giant's armor but still be able to ninja flip. It wasn't uncommon to see a ninja flipping "giant dad" (giant armor and mask of the father, which lowers equip load) with a dagger doing nothing but poising through attacks, ninja flipping and BS phishing.
Dark 1 PvP was horrendously bad. It was a lot of fun if you got people who didn't want to BS phish, exploit poise mechanics or the like. But often even if people started, the moment they'd start to lose, they'd immediately BS phish. It just wasn't any fun.
>>340097194
The funny thing is that soul memory wouldn't have helped 1 anyway. Weapon memory was their best idea since everyone realise upgrade levels matter more than levels themselves.
>>340082297
God that was beautiful.
>>340097526
It really is, but it's rendered pointless ironically enough with the piss poor matchmaking system
>>340074464
>becoz its fun
>i do it so invadurs get mad
>its not ganking its cooping
>>340097526
>>340097704
I don't know how they'd make it fit, but having a battle value style rank that shows what tier you currently fall in would go a long way. Showing how much leveling up your weapon or body would affect the rank would also make the whole system less mysterious.
>>340074464
Am I a piece of shit for using the Dark sword in game? I don't wanna play with something that'll take away from my internet cred
>Go to Pontiff Sullyvahn for PVP
>Put down red summon sign
>Summoned by a gank squad
Why does anyone do this? Do they actually find it satisfying to win in a 4v1? I guess grinding for souls would make sense IF you gained more than just 2-3k souls per kill.
>>340099435
Some find it fun to ruin other's fun, I know I do.
>>340099435
When that happens I like to run off in the level and just afk. They're just there to jerk off in one another's mouths, and you're depriving them of it.
>>340098726
I wouldn't make it my primary weapon, just because everyone knows the move set so well. It works if you can catch someone off-guard with it. I like to use dark sword or estoc as a secondary in PVP, so I can go in with a large, heavy, two-handed weapon equipped, then quickly switch to the lighter weapon for some quick, easy hits half-way through the match.
>>340074464
Get good, if you want to 1v1 try a fight club or red soapsign you dipshit.
>>340097526
>not making it so your weapon memory is determined by what's in your inventory and not the highest you've ever had in your entire game
So fucking close to a great system and then they fucking blew it.
>>340102658
But that's a good thing. I had to clear the game with a +2 in order to twink. That's how you make people have to git gud if they want to use crazy shit at the high wall.
>>340102872
>I had to clear the game with a +2 in order to twink.
And little Timmy beside you just had his friend drop the stuff for him. Who gives a shit?
>>340102872
you used glitched npc phantoms like a bitch
>>340080962
Is there any way to make Morne's set look appealing?
>>340105313
don't wear it
>>340081416
erm.....
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/Y1LO9ODq_l6jbZaG1xtb5w/
>>340105857
This guy shits up every single dark souls thread with his try hard webms
>>340105313
the head piece is the only good part
>>340074464
>perform an action with the expressed intent to ruin another person game
>'WAAAAH WHY CAN'T I JUST WALK UP THE HOST AND BACK STAB HIM'
Motherfucker 9/10 I invade there's another hostile phantom there within a minute due to the matchmaking. You also have THE ENTIRE FUCKING LEVEL at your disposal. Oh damn they used a seed, now I get to pull the entire fucking level right on top of the host.
