Gaming Journalism is a Joke
Following the insane situation where one of Polygon’s reviewers couldn’t play the new Doom properly, it seems similar issues have surfaced with Overwatch. With much of the gaming populace taking a step back and realizing that many of those in mainstream gaming publications no longer represent the medium properly.
In yet another dissection of the gaming press, The Black Hokage rightly and accurately pinpoints various examples of the mainstream gaming media’s ignorance and complacence when it comes to gaming (shown below).
From the press saying that PC’s cannot capture game footage, which actually blew my mind, to the bizarre appraisals of games that have nothing to do with actual gameplay.
He also correctly called out that much of the gaming press is appallingly cliquey and takes itself far too seriously. This is something I’ve written about at length recently and it’s nice to know that I am not the only one that has noticed this situation.
link to Forbes article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/06/02/gamers-are-justifiably-holding-the-mainstream-gaming-press-to-account-for-being-inept/#780c7a57514a
I don't have a problem with Forbes, but for those who do, I found an archive link:
http://archive.is/ynXil
>>340072043
>Gaming Journalism is a Joke
Most people realized this 2 years ago,
Smart people realized this from the beginning
>>340072043
Have a free bump, Forbes
>>340072441
It was fun explaining to my normie friends how poeple who got *paid* to write about about videogames suddenly decided the people they were writing articles for were sub-human pieces of garbage. That's like if Dan Hanzus or Gil Brandt said "NFL is over."
Honestly this all stems from the fact that video games aren't what they used to be.
It used t be a two man operation in a basement playtesting games on their computers and eventually trying to sell the game and get it published in brick and mortar stores.
But now to create a game, it has to have a certain level of production value (money) and polish (time) ortherwise it's a crapshoot.
Of course when there is money involved there will be greasing of palms.
The only difference between art journalism and video game journalism is that art types actually care what they smell like lmao
I have to ask why the shit he cites some random guy on twitter with an embarrassing Naruto name but w/e.
The point is people figured this shit out ages ago during the movement which shall not be named, its only just recently that its become more obvious to idiots that the people running these sites are idiots as well.
>Caring about game journalism
Next you're gonna tell me you base your purchases and gaming preferences on what the hottest youtuber thinks.
>>340072043
>From the press saying that PC’s cannot capture game footage
what the hell, where was this said?
>>340072043
Gaming journalism has allways been a joke and corrupt as fuck. I'm shocked that this fact still suprises people
>>340072742
>poeple who got *paid* to write about about videogames suddenly decided the people they were writing articles for were sub-human pieces of garbage
It truly is staggering that happened, and that an entire industry was allowed to get this corrupt and cliqeuy; and even more staggering that their relatively small influence was able to convince people that women were under some mass, hsyterical sexist attack due to video games, and that reader backlash to their own publications was about women, not their pushing a highly politicized, twisted, made-up narrative.
But this is starting to get G.G. esque and no one likes that apparently.
>>340072043
Journalism itself is a joke. Just look at the political journalism. They keep spreading these lies to Trump while support Shillary. Luckily the America people have wised up and don't believe the MSM anymore.
>>340073000
>I have to ask why the shit he cites some random guy on twitter with an embarrassing Naruto name but w/e.
Probably because the guy is right and made a decent video. (Or, at least, I assume it's decent, because it was cited. I haven't watched it yet.) But I do wish people would choose less retarded usernames if they're going to do anything noteworthy with them.
>>340072742
>It was fun explaining to my normie friends how poeple who got *paid* to write about about videogames suddenly decided the people they were writing articles for were sub-human pieces of garbage. That's like if Dan Hanzus or Gil Brandt said "NFL is over."
I legitimately have a friend who refuse to believe that GG was about journalism websites being corrupt shits, he is so mired in illusion that he believes it was solely about harassing women.
I'm thinking of cutting contact with him because he refuses to even look at something like your picture and consider it, all while expecting me to just go along with his nutjob rhetoric.
Is this what ideology does to people?
>>340073161
I don't remember exactly BUT I do remember it happened. Hopefully OP or other anon can dome through with proper sources.
>>340073202
>But this is starting to get G.G. esque and no one likes that apparently.
Stop being afraid to discuss this, that is what journalists want. The more you talk about it the harder it is to deny the truth for them.
>>340073161
>>340073420
The video embedded in the article has the bit where its said.
>>340073252
Video was decent enough, though it didn't really say anything /v/ hasn't already said hundreds of times.
>>340073241
What is real journalism these days?
Writing about scandals? Revealing the truth about sinister goings on? Uncovering conspiracy? Informing people about unadultered facts on a given narrow subject? Probably all of those things and more.
But somewhere along the way, writing about personal opinions and political beliefs got mistaken for journalism.
>>340072043
>Gaming Journalism is a Joke
But you're willing to side with the non-journalism of "Forbes Contributors" as long as their opinion matches your own.
You're a joke, OP.
>>340073161
I believe it was the chief editor of IGN? The Black Hokage made a video about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLq3I2xhH14
>>340073594
So a writer's credentials are more important than what he or she writes?
Being a non-journalist isn't really a bad thing if we've already established that the professional journalists who write on this topic are trash.
>>340073594
go be a moralfag somewhere else
>>340073161
https://youtu.be/jLq3I2xhH14?t=41s
>>340073721
>Black weeb
Comfy bro detected
>>340073202
They legitimized the whole movement when those articles came out. There's no conspiracy theory when the conspiracy is true.
But enough about GG. Nostalgia Critic made a cool video about a month ago that explains the role of a critic. It completely shreds Kuchera's "Game Reviewers Don't Need to be Good at Games" a month before he wrote it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSonz-GfgHs
You need to be good at games, and have played a lot of games, to give the insight your audience expects. A musician can give a little insight no the music. A novelist can give some insight on the plot. Neither will understand how simplistic CoD's gameplay is. Neither can tell you why a fighting game is good.
Except they're totally fine. We have some of the best games ever publically known to everyone thanks to them.
>>340073161
>>340073420
OP here, here's the find
>>340074057
Any decent critic won't spout bullshit about LGBT or feminism in a game that has either of those.
Reminder that being a games journalist means you can't be proven wrong because all arguments against you are just silly.
>>340073834
>Neither can tell you why a fighting game is good.
Fighting game coverage but the mainstream media is laughably awful.
>>340073161
If you read the article you would have seen the video by Black Hokage who shows a guy from IGN say this.
>>340074538
should have posted actual vid
https://youtu.be/UujtfN7hCdo
>>340074758
My point is a professional musician or a professional novelist would likely lack intrinsic knowledge about frame data and hitboxes. They wouldn't be able to tell you anything about SFV you didn't already know. You make a novelist play an RPG, they could have some fun opinions. You make a musician play Ace Combat, and they can appreciate how the in-game tension is matched by the curent track. Any game that uses dynamic music (that changes depending on the situation) would be fun for them to dissect, too
>>340072043
Journalisn is a joke.mate.
>>340072043
all journalism is fake. you're being lied to. these kikes are actually trolling people like you. don't fall for their shit. just ignore this crap and don't buy it.
>>340075301
Maybe begin approaching these analysis with multiple specialiststs? It'd be interesting to see someone tackle rockstar's games from purely a sound design perspective. No politics, no useless thoughts, just pure analysis.
That's what I want to read and outside of select YouTube guys, you don't get it much.
>>340073796
To be fair I don't think he means it like "PC's absolutely can't record game footage" he's probably just saying it's a lot more simple on consoles these days. On PC's you have to set up OBS and do a bunch of other shit, on modern consoles you can just press a button.
>>340072043
Can someone dump the article?
The site won't let me in with adblock enabled.
>>340072043
Wish I had the link to the Polygon reviewer sent to the E3 press release part for Rockband 4. All they did was complain about not wanting to be there because they felt socially awkward and out right said they didn't care about Rockband or those types of games to begin with so the article barely mentioned anything about the game itself. First off that person sucks at their job because they couldn't do what they were told to which was cover the event like a journalist does regardless of the subject matter and also why the fuck would they send the person who doesn't care about these types of games to this event? Either no one wanted to do it and they got the short straw or they're fucking idiots for making the person they know doesn't play these games and is socially awkward to a huge release party crawling with people.
>>340075785
>Maybe begin approaching these analysis with multiple specialiststs?
We used to, and it was called Electronic Gaming Monthly; although that was more just a bunch of gamers with different tastes. You had the shooter guy, the RPG guy, the "Fun Things are Fun" guy, etc. Having multiple reviewers all review the same games means more labor, though. It's not realistic (or cheap) but it would be ideal.
>>340072293
OP here, thanks, for those having problem with adblocks etc; here's the article:
http://archive.is/ynXil
>>340076308
I refuse to link to the article to give them ad hits so here's a vid of someone reading most of the article for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaT1ZlKYdDY
>>340076308
Same reason why they assign random people to random beats. Each staffer has a series or genre they like, and are incapable of going outside their comfort zone unless it's to criticize outside tropes that are of personal interest to them.
That's the biggest issue I think, that they can't even pretend to be disinterested.
>>340076495
I miss that. Dan Hsu was a great editor.
>>340072043
What does this have to do with Overwatch?Also Forbes' review of it was so glowing and had such enthusiasm. I don't even like the game but it's so rare to see someone appreciate things so much.
>>340075946
That's why it's retarded to say shit like that. That's what PC's are about. You have control to set things up as you like. So with a PC you set it up yourself, in whichever way you like so you can "just press one button" to make it happen.
Of course it's just 1 button on a console. Of course it's more simple You have no control over it, without someone else setting it up for you and making it happen. That's what consoles are for. Simplicity.
>gaming populace
>>340075946
> what is nvidia shadowplay
>>340077187
>That's what consoles are for. Simplicity.
Which was his point right?
>>340076495
I miss the times there were exact those stereotypes existed, Old PCZone from 1990's is a good example i guess. Where gaming was not a mass marketing mess.
>gaming journalism is a joke
HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSES
>>340075946
There is absolutely no way for a PC to do something as recording video with one button.
No way.
Webm unrelated.
Goddamn I wish my PC had a share button so I could upload this webm to one of three popular websites.
>>340077803
>>340077582
kill self, shill
>read through Christ Centered Gamer
>mfw despite their religious bias, they're very objective about the games they play and don't allow their moral content to get in the way of gameplay
>they're more honest than most game journalists
>>340078559
This. Their reviews are actually really good which is shocking.
>>340077584
Yes but it's as if you're criticizing something because it offers you more control. I'm just trying to point out that it is a pretty retarded comment to make. It's blindingly obvious and pointless to point that out.
>>340078559
What a world we live in.
>>340078559
>When they rated The south park game 1/10 for Christianity but 8/10 for being a good game
>>340078559
It's because they have a separate rating to put their political bias into.
>>340078559
They can't be bought off by publishers, because their reward is in Heaven. So technically they're under God's payroll, and so far nobody's been able to successfully bribe God
It has always been a joke.
I remember years a go before the goobergabble shit when everyone just expected every review to be bought.
It's always been a joke and thats the reason journos are so hell bent on this "videogames are art! we must have our citizen kane of videogames!" shit, thay want to be taken seriously, they want to be regarded as serious journalists of a serious medium because telling your date that you're a "videogames journalist" must suck balls and destroy all self esteem.
>>340073006
>See two guys looking at games in Walmart
>One has his face glued to the phone
>Other is pointing at each title
>"Oh Kevin, don't buy that one it says here on metacritic it got a 79"
>"What about this one?"
>"OH, IT GOT A 89! GET THAT ONE!"
>>340081030
It's sad that they turned gaming journalism into the joke that it is today. I would've loved to be a journalist back in the 90's were I get paid to play all the latest shit, get to shit on crappy games in articles, get full passes to game conventions, meet developers and tour studios.
>>340072043
we're doing alright in Japan
>>340079036
I'm tempting to checkout a christian reviewing website for more balanced and honest reviews
maybe god is real
maybe irony is his way of telling me I'm a faggot
