When was the exact moment blizzard lost it?
>when everything got bright colour filtered
>when everything was made super political correct
>when the soundtracks became all orechestral and choral hurr durr that you turn off after hearing it a few times?
>when the credo shifted from "games from gamers for gamers" to "games for everybody and their grandma"
it was with WoWs success right?
>>340053958
>>340053958
>When Battle.net V2.0 Happened.
>when everything got bright colour filtered
Since the beginning
>when everything was made super political correct
Don't know which game had that stuff first
>when the soundtracks became all orechestral and choral hurr durr that you turn off after hearing it a few times?
Wrath
>when the credo shifted from "games from gamers for gamers" to "games for everybody and their grandma"
TBC with welfare gear
>When was the exact moment blizzard lost it?
According to what? To your shitty tastes? Because the game is a success right now.
>when everything got bright colour filtered
No. Making a colorful game was a good decision. In a market filled with gritty war games, this game got an identity by having such charming characters in a game that doesnt take itself so seriously.
>when everything was made super political correct
Bullshit. SWJ already found arguments to bash this game. It has a multicultural cast? Sure, white characters still are the most, all the girls are waifu-tier and everything is sexualized. There are no armorkinis, ok, but they still manage to make a sensual game that has provided lots of porn.
>when the soundtracks became all orechestral and choral hurr durr that you turn off after hearing it a few times?
Valid point. The music is the weakest part of this game.
>when the credo shifted from "games from gamers for gamers" to "games for everybody and their grandma"
Easy to learn, hard to master. This has always have been the usual way to make games.
This game isnt NES-tier difficult, though.
>it was with WoWs success right?
WoW is a dead horse, but still a profitable horse. They just don't care anymore.
>>340053958
>when everything got bright colour filtered
>Warcraft, TLV, Blackthorne
>when everything was made super political correct
Since the 90's ended.
>when the soundtracks became all orechestral and choral hurr durr that you turn off after hearing it a few times?
WC3.
>when the credo shifted from "games from gamers for gamers" to "games for everybody and their grandma"
Their credo is "Play nice, play fair". And it's been like that since the gaming demographic grew which has been for a long time now. Even Valve did that with things like auto-crouching in Left 4 Dead.
>blizz music
>bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeKNsayJHbw
>>340055007
>shit of shittaria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVbbai6iiBs
I fucking hate pandas.
>>340055151
>implying choral is bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Z38j7kwtU
Fuck you and fuck people like you, op.
>>340055007
fuck off fucking faggot shitleg piece of cancer dirrehea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ASlRbH4oM
>>340055007
>ching chong ding dong ping pong
No thanks
>>340053958
The reason Diablo 3 and Starcraft had such awful art design was the original teams were gone. It was only the WoW designers left to do it, and they applied the only style they know (Warcraft style) to the games
>>340054706
>overwatch player immediately assumes OP is talking about their game in specific, getting very defensive
like pottery
>>340053958
It was when Activision knocked up Blizz
WoW and the loss of the main guys at Blizzard North was the end for me. I hate MMOs.
>>340053958
When they made WoW instead of WC4.
>>340053958
When they merged with Activision.
>>340058614
this
however OW brings hope
>>340058754
>OW
>hope
choose one
>>340053958
>>340054092
>>340054151
>>340054176
>>340054706
People saying its not bad now are retarded. Sure they made a TF2 rip off that's critically acclaimed, its not hard when TF2 wasn't that great to begin with. Stupid concept, simple execution, can't even compare to Diablo or the 'Crafts which they've ruined.
Blizz got bad when Activision stuck its long gangrenous dick in it. Sure, Blizz bought themselves back, but the damage was already done. The restructuring of activision changed the winning chemistry
of Blizz.
They are still succesfull as a business, bringing in large sums of money on a monthly basis but they lost that soul.
>>340053958
Wrath of the Lich King. The theme was incredibly strong and their raids were still solid so it was still a cool experience, but it was a shadow of its former self at that point.
All the games they make now are intentionally designed to cater to as many people as possible. It's not simply the game design, it's the art and visual aesthetic. Everything is made to assault your senses as frequently as possible. Everything is shiny, everything is EPIC and visceral and all that shit. It completely replaces depth.
If you're a serious player looking for deep, thought-provoking games, Blizzard isn't for you.
>>340053958
>Erase Blizzard from existence
>/v/ becomes 4000% times better
Activision merger.
Activision and their board of investors are far more fickle and reluctant to risk-taking than Blizzard's initial board of investors and CEOs were previously.
With WoW, they had freedom to invest the time, money, and resources they wanted, where they wanted, to do what they wanted, without a whole lot of outside interference.
Once you converge with a company like Activision, you no-doubt have suits kicking in your doors, plopping down their pie graphs and statistics charts, talking a bunch of money bullshit, and dictating where the focus of resources should go, and the specific types of audience they should start aiming towards. Then you have board of investers who now have (what previously was) one of the biggest MMOs in the industry seeing nothing but dollar signs, and wanting to do everything they can to influence more monetary gain at whatever cost - because fuck videogames, who cares? We just want those dividend checks each fiscal quarter yo. Games come and go! Not like I play them! Long-term? Lol the fuck is that? We're in the now baby! Cater to that casual swarm of locusts we're too money-blinded to notice will just up and leave in about a year! Because we don't pay attention to the migrant patterns of the casual gamer! Just the money they're willing to spend! Fuck the long term!
The Acti-Blizz merger, 3.2, along with the slow trickle of legacy devs slowly heading out the doors of Blizzard HQ, along with the sharp, instantaneous drop in quality of WoW are no coincidence.
>>340059530
My friend admitted the only reason he plays Overwatch is because he likes seeing what he'll unlock in the next chest.
This is someone who plays CoD, BF, and other games that dangle donuts on a string in front of your face the entire time.
Do you hear them guys?
I-It's the OVERMEME DEFENSE FORCE
RUN
>>340057209
>WoW and the loss of the main guys at Blizzard North was the end for me. I hate MMOs.
This.
Also handing over the reins to Chris Metzen, so he can use the games to vent his corruption fetish.
>>340060483
>>340059530
I was thinking of getting OW but thanks for reminding me I really don't want or need it.
>>340060563
Join us or die, die, die.
>>340060339
you said it for me
>>340061005
Maybe one day if it's f2p my fellow overmemer.
>>340057209
>>340057209
I firmly believe BlizzNorth contributed mainly to Blizzards success. The talent was absolutely great.
Everyone knows who Matt Ueleman & Max Schaefer are. No one knows or cares to know who Jay Wilson is.
Warcraft was better when it was more brutal Orcs vs Humans with some magic thrown in. These days I physically cringe at all the new stuff story-wise because it hurts. It's so cliche and garbage I'm amazed it even passes the first reading.
>>340059053
>The restructuring of activision changed the winning chemistry of Blizz.
>pretty much every blizzard game that is put out is successful
>blizzard remains the most consistent developer over the longest amount of time
Maybe if you keep saying it you'll fool yourself into believing it, anon. Though I'm sure you'll just greentext with "b-but HoTS".
>>340053958
>When was the exact moment blizzard lost it?
When SCII wasn't as good as SC+Brood War.
It wasn't a bad game, but they really lost the charm of the older two. I just didn't get the same feeling installing SCII as I did the first time I opened the jewel case for SC and BW and played through the campaign. It doesn't help that the sprites from SC were just more polished looking than the 3d models from SCII.
Oh boy it's a "Why did Blizzard change when they're the exact same company they've always been?" thread.
Blizzard has always made Babby's First PC Game from the start and you're only bothered by it because you have nostalgia for those games.
>Warcraft
Simplified RTS
>Diablo
Simplified RPG, to the point that it's really just an action game
>Starcraft
Blizzard making another simple RTS, it was so easy that I was playing it while in 4th Grade
>World of Warcraft
A simplified Everquest, made for the masses and it worked
>Hearthstone
A simplified Magic The Gathering
>Overwatch
TF2 killer that already was a simplified Team Fortress Classic
They're the one studio that has stayed the same, they take something that only nerds enjoy and they streamline it for the masses.
>>340061967
>Blizzard making another simple RTS, it was so easy that I was playing it while in 4th Grade
Yeah, I was playing it in middle school when it came out. It was still a lot of fun because they didn't build it for "e sports", and I played a shit load of UMS games.
>>340053958
after vanilla when all the good people left the company.
>>340061967
this post
this is a very important post
>>340061967
>Warcraft is a simple RTS
How? It's like any other RTS and it's pretty challenging too. Same goes for Diablo up to 2.
>>340061967
So what's next?
>>340061967
after starcraft broodwar, they stopped giving a fuck about balancing their games
Starcraft wasn't really a simple RTS. It was almost chess-like and the various armors and weapons each unit had were unique and affected their damage and health differently.
It is arguably the game that spawned such a wide esports community we have now with the insane korean micro.
>>340053958
When they made Warcraft and purchased Diablo. Clearly they were onto something good with Rock 'n Roll Racing and then they threw it all away and jumped headfirst into point & click rubbish. They never recovered.
>>340058754
No it doesn't, not even in the slightest
>>340062934
My bet goes for either a casual rocket league style game or a mobile game.
>>340062951
>Starcraft wasn't really a simple RTS. It was almost chess-like and the various armors and weapons each unit had were unique and affected their damage and health differently.
oh you mean just like WC3 and SC2?
brood war dicksuckers are the worst
>>340062854
It didn't have things like troop happiness or anything. it was the bare basics of RTS.
>>340063501
Read the statement above that.
The issue with those games is that they weren't properly balanced.
>>340053958
this is from an artist who was with the d3 art team:
enjoy this sentence:
>And finally the models I made for the 2nd round of D3 Goatmen. This was when we were still in our gritty phase before the rainbows and shit hit the public fan. Ahh, good times.
there was a gritty d3 in the making when the spirit of gayness took hold on blizz
http://phroilangardner.blogspot.de/2012/05/diablo-3-pvp-barbarian-vs-ranger.html
>>340063546
>troop happiness
how many RTS games is this in? it's a terrible idea regardless
>>340054176
>Since the beginning
Starcraft 1 and BW wasn't bright or colorful
Diablo wasn't bright or colorful
Warcraft's colors were muted
Early WoW had muted palettes.
>>340062854
Just compare Diablo to the stat intensive dungeon crawls of the day.
To be fair Diablo pretty much invented its own genre, but the ARPG is a massive simplification of CRPGs.
>>340063941
>Early WoW had muted palettes
Are you joking? WoW is so cartoony, I still remember being disappointed by how the in game graphics didn't reflect the realistic look of the Opening Cinematic.
>>340053958
when they became activision-blizzard
>>340064593
Everything was soft and friendly looking too. None of the look that WC3 had. Blizzard has obviously been pandering to a larger majority of people since WoW.
>>340058754
Nope. OW is everything wrong with modern day blizzard turned up to 11
>>340058754
>>340060339
this
>>340065701
>None of the look that WC3 had.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>340066324
Before.
>>340053958
Activison merger, just before burning crusade.
>>340066560
Now.
>>340058754
>TF2 with waifus and ultimates
>hope
HAHAHAHA
>>340061967
>warcraft
>simplified RTS
>starcraft
>simple
are you actually retarded or just acting like a moron to bait people?
>>340053958
When every game started to get the same "good guy gets corrupted" treatment. Fucking hacks.
I like bright colors because I can actually see everything
>>340066887
He's right though.
>>340058754
>>340053958
>>People still crying over PC and SJW like it's the real problem.
>>People unironically use the term redpill even though it was made by trannies.
In all seriousness, Activision/Cataclysm was the fall.
>>340066716
Actually they look like this now
I don't know when they lost it, but TBC was the last good thing they put out. Havent played overwatch, looks like a good game, but Its a far cry from what made sc/bw, diablo and warcraft up to TBC great.
>>340067130
So it just went from bad to worse.
>>340067130
New tauren a cute
its a shame they will forever have humpbacks
>>340067276
Tauren didn't have fur in Warcraft 3 because the resolution was trash. Now that the devs have the tools they can make stuff look not like shit. Also for fucks sake Warcraft 3 is so much more bright and colorful than WoW. No contest.
>>340067332
>wanting tauren to be cute/good looking
baka kys desu
>>340067579
Yes, that's clearly why they added furries to their game.
>>340061415
Blizz lost a record number of subscribers last year and have continued to lose subscribers since CATA which coincidently is when the merger happened. Believe what you want gayboi
>>340058754
While that accumulated subscriber income would make anyone lose the plot Overwatch is literally packaged research.
its just piles data that ultimately delivers just the right amount of gratification and challenge
like a really shiny mobile app
im still playing it... for now... lets see
>>340055007
>orchestral choir
yeah. that doesn't get old
>>340053958
activision happened
>>340067579
>savage eyes of killers to dopey cow eyes
>>340063756
>D3 went the route of spore.
We must find the cock suckers name.
>AAA games no longer want to be even slightly edgy or push limits
>everything needs to have padded corners and safety helmets because someone getting upset is the worst thing that could happen (not pushing out a boring, forgettable game)
>>340053958
I enjoy colorful games more than dark and gritty ones.
Have you seen Zarya or Torbjörn?
Blizzard has never been popular for its Hip Hop.
>muh secret club
>>340068586
I like colorful games with dark undertones.
>>340054092
fpbp
>>340067598
Can't help myself
I liked WoW right up till WotLK, but it definately was the deciding factor in terms of game design for Blizzard. After WoW all their games ditched the shadier look and guitar soundtracks for a more generic style, and there the unoriginality and downfall in general began.
>>340068894
what a just really good image, I like it, 9/10
People who still buy and play Blizzard games need to be gassed. Worse than Ubishit.
>>340069051
the artist has a really good sense of aesthetics and a practiced hand. 10/10 would look at again.
>>340070485
I remember this
>Man these armor sets are kinda bare bones, I hope we get something better
>this happens
>Is this what I wanted? Should I just accept it and not say anything? Is that the right thing to do in this situation?
>>340070485
the new sets are good though.
The previous ones were just defined by generic armor plus color
Look at the priest and warlock sets, same shit, different colors.
I never thought that people would bitch about t2 sets.
When the games started being designed by an evil welfare jew who expects you to be glued to your monitor 12 hours a day. I'm 99% sure he was on welfare when raiding in everquest, and designed WoW to be the same.
>>340070485
>Raiders have shitty looking gear
>Casuals flood billions of dollars into the game, suddenly awesome gear
>shit on casuals for 5 years straight
>>340055007
Wow that's fucking boring.
Here's some real Chinese music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5JpCSEiUxc
