Saw this pic on /g/ earlier today
Since loading games is mostly big sequential reads, doesn't this mean SSDs are useless for games?
I'm pretty sure SSD's are just so much faster than a regular HDD so that it doesn't matter.
>falling for a /g/ mspaint meme
This is about as accurate as this one.
>>340050737
>Since loading games is mostly big sequential reads, doesn't this mean SSDs are useless for games?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>340051000
Refute it if it's so funny
>>340050737
you do realize thats a troll image right?
You're not actually believing something just because someone dropped it into MS paint and drew arrows on it are you?
I am the inventor of the SSD and can confirm that they are useless
Bet you'd fall for the H440 meme too
>>340050737
Yes, they are useless. Never buy SSD.
>>340050737
>He fell for the /g/ memes
jesus there are some tech illiterate people on /v/, this is a fucking ironic meme pic.
>>340050737
do you support bernie by any chance?
>>340051000
nice trips
HDDs are only marginally better for the first few thousand gigabytes of I/0, after that they start to significantly lose rotational velocidensity. It's the reason why eight year old PCs are slow even with nothing installed
jesus fucking christ anon
/g/ is either bunch of hipsterfags, using shitty software/hardware, or trolls.
>>340051110
people like you should stay away from big crowds where others try hard to gain attention
>>340050737
no because hard drives are mechanical you tard
most of the waiting time for HDDs is the pointer moving to the correct spot
>>340050737
>>340050737
That's just a meme, Anon.
If you actually read up about those, you'll see that SSD is way much faster because it's doesn't use a rotating metal hand but instead a memory stick come and go style.
>>340050737
new hard drives spin faster anon
>>340050737
>inb4 I was pretending
>>340051221
you bleeding idiot
>>340051286
So you made a post without any knowledge to back it up
>>340050983
>>340051115
>>340051121
>>340051148
>>340051190
>>340051195
>>340051247
>>340051258
All of you too
>>340051286
Way to dodge the question
>>340051221
>ctf+f rotational velocidensity
>1 of 1 match
Based anon.
>>340050737
>full 360 degree access
>Halfway through ordering new components to upgrade my 250VRAM shitstain to a modern gaming computer
>Realize the only PC games worth playing look like this
>Cancel order
You almost had me there. I nearly fell for the masterrace meme, but realized my mistake in time. Holding out for the next generation of consoles since they might get some actual games.
>>340051450
>>340051221
>>340051221
>>340051221
>>340051221
>>340051221
>>340051221
>>340051221
>rotational velocidensity
this never gets old.
left ssd
right hdd
both sata III and about 2 years old
>>340051592
That's a cute girl.
Enjoy your rotational velocidensity
WHAT IS THIS THREAD?
BAIT?
REAL?
Only a fool would believe anything written here as proof.
>>340051754
>Girl
>>340051221
SSDs have a similar problem, though. After only a few thousand rewrite cycles, the metastatic induction tremufams begin to lose their quantum electrodynamic stahility, which results in widespread degradation of the magnetic asynchronous modality that renders the drives faster in the first place. You really only want to write something to the drive once and never move it in order to get the best performance.
>>340051450
Lol you're really dumb
>>340051754
> girl
I know you're pretending but when one identifies an opportune moment to memetext, one must meme as though there's no 4chan tomorrow.
>>340050737
REMOVE THIS
>>340051905
yeah, a cute girl [male]
>>340050737
>Saw this pic
It's basically reversed. The SSD can access whatever section it needs to at all times, while the HDD has to physically rotate to be read by the laser so only one section of the disk can be touched on at a time.
>>340050737
You have to take earth rotation into account, plus gravity.
>>340051905
okay now I'm gonna have to ask for sauce
>>340051450
stupid OP
dont make me re-release the 1981 plague back onto the internet. mother fuckers got no immunity for this shit no more
>>340052031
and the way gravity influenced the spread of time according to newton's fourth flaw of emutation
![Morris_Worm[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3hH8Srj.jpg "Morris_Worm[1].jpg")
>>340052062
>in case of emergency, break glass
I know a good bit about SSDs. The truth is that the performance of SSDs plummets once you write enough data to fill the drive once (even if you delete the data). Due to how SSDs work the drive will be constantly copying pages for erases after this, and will never perform like advertised again. In fact, this low performance level is around about the same as HDDs. You're basically paying a huge premium for about 256GB of good speeds. Do NOT buy SSDs in their current state.
>>340051372
the ultraviolet laser idea is actually not new or anything.
There are some prototype ultraviolet laser discs that hold 400+GB of information.
Also, due to ultraviolet light properties, the discs can be laser etched to write data on them permanently.
>>340052363
Bullshit: the post.
>>340052509
Refute it then, idiot.
>>340051956
Did you just start fucking mansplaining SSDs to me?
>>340052363
>copying pages for erases
explain
>>340052594
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_%28computing%29
No, because SSDs still blow spinning disks out of the water. I like having computers that boot up in seconds.
>>340052657
In SSDs pages can't be written to before the block is erased, so if there are pages with alive data on a block that's going to be erased then they need to be copied away.
>>340052758
TRIM is meaningless if you're constantly writing to the drive because it won't activate.
>>340050974
>filename
OC?
>>340052862
That doesn't happen in the real world, and you can always manually activate it if you need to.
>memetic appropriation
just paint your hard drive red and itll go faster dont fall for the ssd meme
>>340050737
It's pointless either way, since the game is loaded to ram.
Game will boot faster on SSD but it wont magically play any faster, unless you have less ram than needed perhaps.
God knows why you'd have an SSD but not enough RAM though.
>>340052958
>memetic appropriation
>posting /a/ on /v/
Dirty hipocrit
As long as you defrag your SSD on a regular basis, it should perform far better than a standard HDD.
>>340053263
>defragging an ssd
oh, sure, just throw your texiles away
>>340053263
don't be evil
>>340053431
Your what?
>>340053431
>he doesn't defrag his SSD
Enjoy your Linear Sceptafiles
>>340050737
Make sure you delete system32 to really boost your root speeds from the omnicapacitors through the nand drives
>>340054785
Not funny sorry
>>340050737
>games are big sequential reads
fucking off yourself
>>340055490
How is that not true? Loading a level into RAM isn't full of random writes you fucking illiterate.
>>340051956
We'll just fix it with the deflector dish
god DAMN you idiots are getting trolled hard
>>340052253
Guys I overheard someone in a bar talking about how they were going to steal the worm code so they could release the virus to the internet, crippling the world!
OP, fuck all that bait about SSDs, just get more RED LEDs and your shit will run 100% faster, guaranteed.
Now make sure you have some BLUE LEDs to even out the heat
Also, don't forget to buy Gamer-approved RAM. You know, the triple OC high voltage kind
>>340051110
O(1)
If you know what it means.
>>340055430
well ain't you a saint
>>340051146
I'm the wifes son of the inventor and can confirm.
>>340051592
Source?
The image isn't true but HDDs will eventually be better anyway.
SDDs are dropping in price/GB but their performance isn't really increasing. With HDDs they just need to make technology that makes the round part spin faster and it will improve its performance.
>>340058137
You can overclock your HDD to like 17,000 rpm. Your games run so fast that you can run Crysis at top settings on an integrated video card.
>>340057372
First semester CS class? Not sure why you think its special
>>340058883
on SSD any access is with complexity O(1)
on HDD any access is with complexity >= O(1)
>>340050737
This is a /g/ meme
A hard disk has additional latency because of the time needed for the read/write heads to physically move to the correct sectors. A device with mechanical components is going to be slower than a device which operates entirely on electrical current.
>>340059238
Nigga, what are you smoking?
>>340059047
wrong. they are both O(1).
SSD = O(n+c)
HDD = O(n+ c/rotational velocidensity)
>>340050737
I bet you buy AMD products
>>340059546
The fuck is c?
>>340059047
That doesn't even make sense.
A typical HDD is spinning with 7200 rpm, so that means any data can be looked up in at most 8.33 ms. It could be regarded as constant time in terms of computational complexity, but I'm not sure why you would introduce this concept into the discussion when there isn't a parameter to adjust.
>>340050737
>what is fragmentation
>>340059703
the speed of light you fucking dip
this is literally high school level knowledge
>>340059703
the speed of light
>>340052862
Uhhh how behind are you? TRIM is always active nowadays. Update your firmware slowpoke.
>>340051956
Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.
I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.
>>340059546
>not using the leighberg constant
it's been 2 years already, dude
>>340059703
lightspeed
>>340051586
what game
>>340059546
>>340059758
For a moment I thought I'm reading something sensible.
Then I remembered I am on v at 4chan.
Yes, please use speed of light to compute magnet based data transfer system. Not to mention electrical one as well.
Totally forgot that magnets are answer to almost everything.
Carry on.
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w
>>340060229
Finally someone posting accurate information, thanks
>>340050737
I bet you believe the botnet meme too huh?
>>340059546
>not having superluminal HDDs
>>340052053
>>340058067
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3065061
>>340060324
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup
>>340052053
You don't actually want it.
>>340061039
Why is always a boy?
>>340062720
Boi is cute, fuck off.
>>340060413
do you not know what big O notation means?
