Mass Effect 1: In the year 2148, explorers on Mars discovered the remains of an ancient spacefaring civilization. In the decades that followed, these mysterious artifacts revealed startling new technologies, enabling travel to the furthest stars. The basis for this incredible technology was a force that controlled the very fabric of space and time.
They called it the greatest discovery in human history.
The civilizations of the galaxy call it...
MASS EFFECT
>>340043468
And the ending to 3 was the second greatest disappointment in human history. The first was Hitler dying before he achieved his goals.
Man I miss playing this for the first time and then hoping for a decent sequel
>>340044015
I was sad that Grunt wasn't nearly as cool as Wrex was. He was my man. Garrus can go eat a spiny cactus.
why do people get so buttblasted over the ending to Mass Effect 3?
It wasn't action packed, but it did what needed to be done for the scope of the galaxy.
>>340043971
This but now fanboy faggots claim
> "the ending was breddy gud"
We should never let EA and biojew forget the ht turd hey have us for an ending
>>340044187
It's also the same with Witcher 3. It did the same goddamn thing.
>>340044146
Because it was three different coloured endings, and the plot with the reapers was fucked completely. Not to mention all the plot holes throughout the game
>>340044146
The more important question I have is why do people only focus on the ending when criticising ME3?
The ending was shit, but that game had major problems all the way through. To me it was obvious within the first few hours that it was subpar. And by th end I was nothing but angry.
>>340044518
It was the straw that broke the camel's back.
>There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension
>>340044592
>lol jk we're just robots controlled by a crazy ai
>>340044518
Because of the ending Mass Effect 3 will be remembered as a 'controversial' game rather than a 'fucking lame' one. That doesn't really seem fair to me but bioware/ea should be thankful. It's probably the best outcome they could have hoped for.
>>340044592
To be fair, Revelation Space had a really shit conclusion too.
>>340043971
>The first was Hitler dying before he achieved his goals.
Are you kidding? Can you imagine the complete lack of /pol/ faggotry to laugh at had he not failed?
That and German is a fucking pig disgusting language that makes the ears bleed.
>>340044592
Them simply harvesting the entire galactic civilization like crops would've been much better, and a better explanation for the whole "beyond your comprehension" shit, like they see us the same way we look at ants.
That or the original dark matter storyline or whatever it was they originally planned.
>>340044954
Wrong. He was a robot controlled by collective minds of races harvested by the reapers in the previous cycle.
>>340045348
And all these species mutually reached the conclusion that the reaper's plan was a good idea?
>>340044187
> "the ending was breddy gud"
>>340044146
Becuase this humongous faggot explicitly said that there will be ton of fucking endings, differing with each playthrough.
>>340045390
In the long run and considering original plotline even I think the harvest was necessary.
>>340044146
I think the writers just got in over their heads and couldn't figure out how to wrap everything up and make sure the Shepard saga was concluded without doing what they did.
A big part of why this happened is that by the time the third game was in development all the writing staff responsible for Mass Effect were gone. ME3 was put in the hands of a bunch of newbies who weren't responsible for the original game and weren't part of envisioning the overall trilogy. So they just made shit up as they went along and called it done.
>>340044146
I just remember the reaperified asari things that basically one shot you and took 2000000000 bullets to kill and there being like 3 of them at once on the final assault push thing
>which ending did you like the most?
>red, green, or blue?
>>340045596
Going off of the 'preservation of organic life' explanation I don't really follow. What's the point of keeping organic life going in an indefinite cycle for the reapers? The idea that biological life and natural intelligence is inherently valuable and the torch has to stay lit at all costs seems a bit too philosophical for the reapers and is also a wildly impractical solution. If they're that scared of AI wiping out organic life why don't they step in, announce their presence and force intelligent life not to fuck with AI? Why don't they make themselves the guardians of organic life by actually preserving it rather than genociding 99.9999999% of it whenever they start getting somewhere?
As their plan stands they don't have an endgame.
Left or right?
So we all agree EDI was best waifu?
>The writer constantly wrote IOUs to the audience: This will all be explained later. It’ll make sense in retrospect. This is building up to a larger payoff. This is a setup for a later reveal.
>Once Shepard steps into that beam, all those implied or inferred IOUs came due, and the writer had nothing for us.
this basically sums up the entire trilogy better than I've ever seen. its exactly like a bad webcomic artist that keeps hinting at future plot twists and never actually explains them.
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=32291
if you're hype even a little bit for ME4 you are a fool or just ignorant
>>340045880
>Joker turns his head like he's driving a car
>Your choices didn't actually matter beyond a slight swing in a number scale (that you could fix anyway with multiplayer) that enabled or disabled certain endings
>Endings were literally the same video with 3 different colors
>Ending is retarded as reaper's motivation makes no sense
>>340045932
I like the theory where they just harvest life, like they are intergalactic ranchers and we are just cattle. You don't kill all your cattle you leave some around to rebuild.
It was a good game with greatly written characters but it ruined the series by making it less rpg and more gears of war.
Coming to visit the citadel in ME2 and discovering that it's literally a couple of floors in the wards was such a massive disappointment. ME1 created this amazing world with a dark sci fi atmosphere and ME2 made it seem like generic space stuff
>>340045880
>>340046018
Literally why did it even need to be a thing?
>>340045880
>somebody actually sat down and animated all of this
>people were actually being serious when they made these
I still can't believe it. extended cut was especially hilarious
>oh lets just make joker not so panicky looking that's what people wanted right?
>lets have the relays not explode anymore that's what they wanted right?
its the single most condescending thing I've EVER seen in all of vidya by a huge margin
>>340046257
Because she's the best
>>340046018
The bodysuit was nice I'll give her that.
>>340046018
>>340046304
EDI is love
EDI is life
>interspecies romance
>a species evolved to depend on said interspecies romance
>everyone apparently speaks english, but aliens have funny ayylium names
>the only interesting aliens, the jellyfish, the space jew, and the monotonous gorilla-cow, were basically forgotten about past the first game (the space jew not as much as the others)
>>340045932
In Revelation Space, the series this game rips off wholesale, the machines are wiping out space faring races so that they can effectively guide the galaxy through a coming collision with another galaxy. With absolute control, they can slingshot stars around to make it out the other end with most everything intact, but with multiple advanced races trying to survive the collision their own way, they anticipate disaster. So, they wipe out advanced life whenever they detect it so they can maintain control during the cataclysm.
>>340046279
It's basically pic related giving the bottom employees, people with no creative input, a list of instructions to do for 10h a day.
They were just worrying about being booted after game launch.
>no option to just let the reapers consume all life and end your miserable suffering
>>340043468
how did a series with so much potential end in such a fiery trainwreck
it baffles me to this day
Real talk here.
On the Mars mission they introduce the mechanic where you can shoot through the glass.
At any point in the rest of the game was their any glass to shoot through ever?
>>340045932
They don't even come close to genociding most of life, only the advanced species. These are a big minority. In order to preserve intelligent life they are getting rid of dominant species to make space for new civilizations. And if they stayed in the galaxy all the time all would quickly turn aganist them for wiping out races because of progress that race made. Any technological advancements would be shunned and condemmed from fear of total anihilation brought to you by space robosquids and no new technology would be made. Reapers need that technology and its creators to assimilate so they can help (by becoming reapers) to find solution to dark energy problem
>>340046947
I can't remember it ever being the case again. Truly idiotic.
>>340046947
Thin cover. And yes, you could do so much with different levels of cover piercing, especially in the multiplayer with drill rounds and other upgrades that could let you fire through meter thick cover.
>>340043971
>you will never play ME1 for the first time again
>you will never discover all the cool aliens and their cultures and talk to ayylmao jellyfish and elephant men for the first time again
>you will never visit the citadel for the first time again and get lost in it
>you will never experience the mystery and comfyness of exploring uncharted planets for the first time again
>you will never get to know your qt blue waifu and your alien bros garrus and wrex for the first time again
Hold me /v/. ME1 was so fucking comfy
>>340046595
>revelation space
just looked it up. It sounds pretty cool.
>>340046971
I don't buy that announcing their presence and trying to act as enlightened dictators wouldn't be the ideal solution. Also you're working off of the 'dark energy' plot device, which while far more interesting and far less stupid, isn't what we've got. Reapers killed everyone because they didn't want them potentially endangering themselves down the line.
I'm disappointed in all of you.
>>340045294
how did the dark matter storyline go?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqO1ViYFa4s
Reminder:
>>340043468
>When the music kicks in as the ship hits the mass effect relay
>>340043468
Why the fuck turians have all roman or romanesque names?
That shit triggers me to no end
So much potential lost......
>>340047582centurian
>>340044592
And then it just turned out to be a robot. Just another simple robot.
>>340047725
Delete this
THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE IT A SPACE COP/SPY GAME
BE A SPECTRE
FUCK OVER TURIANS
COURSE THE GALAXY
SOLVE MYSTERIES
NOT FUCKING KILL HUMANS CAUSE THEY MAKE MACHINES THAT KILL HUMANS
FUCK ALL THAT WASTED POTENTIAL
>>340047904
Not really simple. That level of stupidity really goes above and beyond.
>>340047985
This is what happens when the script is written by people who don't read sci-fi or read in general.
>>340046891
>To those of us stuck on the outside of the company and who don’t follow the ongoing soap opera of equity firms and holding companies, the story of BioWare gets a little murky in 2005, when they teamed up with Pandemic studios. Then in 2006 they opened a new studio in Austin to produce the Star Wars MMO The Old Republic. Then in 2007 they sold themselves to Electronic Arts[2]. In 2009 they opened yet another studio, this time in Montreal.
>The development of the Mass Effect series overlapped with all of this chaos. When work on Mass Effect 1 began, they were a single quasi-independent[3] studio. By the time the third game launched, they were a collection of three studios owned by the Borg Collective of games publishing, they were running one of the most expensive, high-profile, and ambitious MMO titles ever developed, and were developing Dragon Age and Mass Effect titles simultaneously.
>I don’t care how informed your leadership is, how nice and talented your employees are, or how much money you have in the bank. You can’t go through that sort of radical growth and shift in focus over such a short timeframe and retain your company culture.
-Shamus Young, autist
>>340048503
>mass effect 1 was made by people who loved it
>mass effect 2 was made by people who hated mass effect 1
>mass effect 3 was made FOR people who hated mass effect 1
he's right you know
>>340048772
me2 was in development before EA bought out pandemic
the dumb thing about the backlash to mass effect 3's ending is that the people who were invested enough to care about it should have seen it coming when they played mass effect 2
>>340049397
Mass Effect 1 is shit. Nobody should've gotten invested in the first place.
>>340049397
Me2 had universal acclaim with 94 metacritic score.
What does that even mean. Thats like saying people should see cyberpunk77 will suck because witcher 3 was so bad.
>>340049397
ME2 was shit as a story, but it was really good at making you feel like a badass hero at least. that was the reason I was actually excited for ME3 before it came out
ME3 just made you feel like a chump. anything but a hero
>>340043468
That intro is so cheesy but I liked it. At least the music was fantastic.
Especially this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IitCQCaKi3E
>>340049596
>Me2 had universal acclaim with 94 metacritic score.
That means jackshit. ME3 also had high ratings.
ME2 was were everything went to shit. THEN came DLC who piled more shit on top. THEN came ME3.
>>340049678
the series had good music but unfortunately I can't even listen to it without being filled with rage at how much of a betrayal this game was
>>340049840
Same, I'm emotionally scarred like I was raped
Like PTSD, I need a safe space
>>340049596
I had very low hopes for ME3 despite enjoying 2 and gave up after the first piece of gameplay I saw, which was some turret section bullshit.
>>340044146
>>340043971
I don't get it, especially when Witcher 3s ending gets praised despite being just as bad
>>340046120
That bothered me so much. I guess you could argue he had a panel behind him but that'd be just retarded
>>340049920
>Witcher 3s ending
Which ending?
>>340043468
I fell in love with that universe right at that intro.
EA literally destroyed my universe
>>340049920
can you keep your shitposting in the dedicated shitposting threads?
>>340050013
Said threads ARE any post-2012 Mass Effect threads
>>340050013
>>340050009
>doesn't make a single argument
>"s-shitposting"
How ironic.
>>340044146
Because it's broken on all possible story telling levels. But of course you wouldn't get that, so it's alright.
>>340049724
that's another part of what made ME3 so fucking loathsome: it had raving, perfect review scores across the board on all "professional" review sites and it was so blindingly obvious they were biased it wasn't even funny.
the metacritic scores were in the toilet while the other reviews praised it like the second coming of jesus christ our lord and savior
>>340049596
>Me2 had universal acclaim with 94 metacritic score.
who the fuck cares lmao
mass effect 2 made a bunch of changes which made it clear that the focus of the first game had been dropped; plot focus became character focus, story became almost non existent, rpg mechanics became shooter mechanics
these all communicated that the developers/writers weren't interested in following up on the big overarching story with meaningful choices they promised before
>>340050263
this was pre gamergate, you can guess those gamesjournopro list people were circlejerkin how entitled gamers were for wanting different ending
>>340044342
Wasn't there a bunch of different cutscenes depending on your actions and who lived and died?
>>340047328
>>you will never play ME1 for the first time again
I first played through it on my family's toaster computer because Amazon had some deal for the digital download of Mass Effect and of course I had a PS3 but really wanted to play it. I played through the game at like 20fps, and it was still almost magical. I can't believe I endured that now that I'm so used to 60fps.
>>340050448
And all of them meaningless. And then they gave us the extended cut and shat all over everything. And managed to make things worse.
Hooray for EAoware.
>>340046018
C A M E L T O E
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blueberry muffin still is the best though
>>340047328
I feel you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdK6DwLl-o
>it took a mod made by slavs to do what bioware refused to: make the ending bearable
you know when I think about it, the 'refuse' option has some serious meta implications. you not only refuse to play with the reapers' and the writers' nonsense, but you also refuse to ever had anything to do with bioware after this tripe. its too fucking perfect
you don't even get the beat the game achievement for picking refuse. think about that for a minute
i
am a patrician
You DID support the Geth, right anon?
Sovereign was a big guy.
>>340050732
>refuse
The best ending there is.
>>340047390
>ME2 Tali talks about how dark matter is going to fuck shit up because it does crazy stuff to everyone and everything at a really fast rate
>Sovereign was tasked with essentially the same job Shepard has now but on a bigger scale
>Dark matter is to Sovereign as Sovereign is to Shepard
Something like that, or I a retarded and completely forgot.
>>340046010
Yes.
>What could have been.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIuOU4l1Pw
>What we got
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgRP5_YKu0
Are there any other games with a similar atmosphere to Mass Effect 1? I love playing the first game in a series when so many mysteries are being introduced to you.
>>340050887
kotor 1 to some degree
>>340046018
Nah.
>"Well, only the ending to 3 was bad. The rest was pretty good!"
>"The part on Earth was really epic!"
>"B-But the Genophage plot was really good!"
>"The multiplayer was good!"
>"Well, I don't mind that they changed some things from the first one."
I wish I could sound less like an autist when I try to explain how ME3 was bad from the beginning, right from where the Reapers go "fuck this one specific planet in particular."
>>340050838
more like you just fell for bioware's bullshittery. they were making the shit up as they went along with no plan for a conclusion.
its literally bad fanfiction
>>340044237
There was literally nothing wrong with the witcher 3 ending. People are mad because me3 didn't have as good an ending as that
>>340046891
>Someone higher-up thought it was cool to add this, so I had to
https://web.archive.org/web/20130120045453/http://www.holdtheline.com/threads/me2-writer-chris-letoile-on-the-ai-characters-and-the-reapers.4229/
>>340044146
3 was a shitty game all-round. Much like 2.
>>340050967
disgusting, annoying, overly-patriotic cunt
What other franchises have suicided themselves like ME did?
>>340051137
No wonder most americlaps like her.
The most amazing thing is, how Mass Effect, after so many years, is still debated (rarely here, obviously. Here it's mostly shitposting).
I don't think it's ever happened to another game or franchise, to this extent.
>>340051220
None this bad, with so many promises and such gigantic failure, I think.
>>340044146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBETU-uOGh8
>>340051220
Dragon age, twice.
>>340051137
>>340051245
>Not wanting your hands on the best hips in the galaxy.
Bongs, plz.
Your loss.
Sounds like it's time to crack open the old Mass Effect folder for a ME3 Therapy Group session.
>>340051220
none I can think of. not on that level at least. that was a spectacular IP assassination the likes of which I've never seen.
and they have the nerve to make another... and somehow people are hype for it anyway. just fucking kill me right now
>>340044146
The entire game was shit. The atrociously contrived ending was just a cherry on the giant pile of shit that people really took notice of. Kai leng? Cmon nigger.
>>340045432
>The final words in the ME trilogy are "downloadable content"
>>340051589
>Kai leng? Cmon nigger.
>mass effect
Humans discover artifacts on mars and the relay outside pluto. Take the plunge and find galactic society which they try to integrate into. introduction to galactic society, the citadel, interspecial government. simple story of becoming first human spectre and tracking down a rogue spectre before cool twists happen
>mass effect 2
EAAAAARTHHHHH SHOOT THE REAPERS. GUNSSSS RELOADDD. TAKE COVERRRRRRRRRR. THIS HURTSSS YOUUU
>>340051589
did they make him look so ridiculous to sell action figures or something?
>>340043971
>And the ending to 3 was the second greatest disappointment in human history.
next to the entirety of mass effect 2
>>340051831
He was around before ME3, in some novel. He ate...Anderson's? Hackett's? cereal and pissed in his potted plant.
>>340044146
I honestly can't comprehend it either. After the pile of shit that was ME2 what the fuck did they expect? ME2 set the bar so low Satan could trip on it in his cellar.
>>340043971
Easy /pol/baby
>>340044146
literally this.
i swear to fucking god people just react like programmed robots to blurt "me3 ending!" whenever ME comes up.
Its not nearly that bad, and it doesnt really stick out from the rest of 3's mediocrity at all. and not nearly as bad as any part of 2
>>340047582
Because they're society is like roman republic before Caesar fucked it.
>>340043468
The audience for Mass Effect 2 and 3 was completely different to Mass Effect 1.
They had me by the balls, and then completely ignored the fanbase the original game had fostered to pander to casuals.
>>340051619
>they changed the final message in extended cut into a condescending, pandering message saying how much they love their fans
>people took this seriously
in retrospect, the entirety of that situation was just fucking hilarious
>>340051437
>LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
>>340045880
TWO DID THE SAME FUCKING THING
HOW DO YOU FAGGOTS CONSTANTLY IGNORE THIS???
YOU FUCKING BITCH AND MAKE EPIC MAYMAYS ABOUT THE "MUH 3 COLOR ENDINGS IN ME3 LLOLOLOLOL" WHEN TWO DID THE EXACT. SAME. FUCKING.
THING.
EXCEPT NOT 3 COLORS, TWO. 2.
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HOW
FUCKING
DENSE
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YOU?
>>340052235
Easy there, /v/
>>340052383
FUCK YOU
YOU KNOW IM RIGHT
>>340052030
>its not nearly that bad
you weren't there. it was even worse than you think it was.
where do you think the 'entitled gamers' argument and day 1, on disc, story critical DLC came from?
that's right, mass effect 3. so don't even say it wasn't that bad because it was.
>>340052235
ME2 at least made it look cool and made you feel like a hero.
ME3 did the opposite
>>340052235
ME2's ending
- Made sense
- Was justified
- Was not intended to be a decisive conclusion to a trilogy
- Played into the Paragon/Renegade system the game was built around
- Would have had consequences, as ME1's did (minor as they were)
Of course that last point is worthless, because ME3 is so awful that no matter what you do Cerberus gets the remains of the Human Reaper (somehow? not explained.)
>>340052539
hes also ignoring the fact that me3 is ending to the entire series and the numerous problems in the entire ending section, why did the galaxy points even exist with this ending scheme?
>>340049397
I can't say I saw the shit ending coming but I didn't have high hopes after ME2. Thing is, it was the end of a trilogy and I had to see it through.
In retrospect, it would have been smarter to just pirate the fuck out of it. At least the multiplayer was great fun
>>340051827
Christ, I almost want to cry.
I loved ME1 so much. I played it like a dozen times. Then came ME2 and I was so excited to see a more expanded citadel and stuff..
I played it like twice and the latter playthrough I got triggered as fuck when I realized renegade had been turned into edgy madman instead of dirty harry.
I never even touched ME3.
>>340052712
You'd probably be even more triggered as the only good characters from ME2 become bastardized.
>>340052712
I'm gonna buy Andromeda
>>340047328
>All those notes and information about races you could find
>all the premise
>the minimalistic retro esque design
i thought this was going to be vidyas star wars
>>340052956
It's more like vidya's Star Trek.
>>340052662
>>340052539
LOOK AT THIS FUCKING BACKPEDDALING
THESE ARE YOUR MASS EFFECT 2 FANBOYS EVERYONE
>but it was cooler in 2
>some retarded fucking story-breaking human reaper fight followed by a big explosion
3's was way more interesing. Not that either hold a candle to the first
>me2 made sense
>targeting humans and humans alone becasue these god-like robots suddenly deemed sheperd responsible or some shit oh btw protheans are back but slaves and you decided to preserve the base but the cutscene still shows a huge blue explosion. fucking fucking sense and perfectly fucking justified right?
>not intended to be a conclusion
Obviously, but you still need a solid ending to the story instead of weak ass sequelbaiting cliffhanger bullshit.
>consequences
hahaha fucking emails on my space computer really changes the narrative oh boy
>me3 is so awful
Well if you eat shit (me2) for dinner why do you complain about frozen piss (me3) for dessert?
me2 was the stepping stone away from the space rpg into a earth-focusing gritty shooter game for casuals and all the smart people (ie not you) fucking saw it
>>340052662
>- Made sense
But it didn't. Right from the very start of when we learn about what the main goal of the game was, its logic broke down
>-Was justified
What? What needed justification? It didn't do anything to forwarding the Reaper plot, which it should have been its sole purpose. And it botched numerous things in its own, isolated plot.
>- Was not intended to be a decisive conclusion to a trilogy
See above, it NEEDED to propel the Reaper plot. It did nothing of the sort.
>- Played into the Paragon/Renegade system the game was built around
You could destroy the base. But parts of it reappeared in 3.
You could keep the base.
And get nothing out of it.
What is the point of adhering to the system if it's meaningless?
>- Would have had consequences, as ME1's did (minor as they were)
See above. No consequences, neither immediate, nor long term.
>>340052771
I should slap you for even thinking that. but deep down I know no comeuppance is going to occur from all this. they're going to mass market andromeda so hard it'll rock the foundations of the planet
they literally launched mass effect 3 into fucking space. that's how hard they were marketing it. I'm not making that up
>they turned Tali into some weak stuttering shy waifubait in 2
>people were fine with it
REEEEEEEEE
>then citadel DLC in 3
AARDDRGDRHHDKVKDHATAHDXTRAHDJRNCJDJS
>>340053046
Tell me more about how Gamergate doesn't harass women
mass effect has never been good and i'll never understand why people get so butthurt over something that was never good in the first place
>>340052669
are you seriously fucking implying that me2 and its ending wasnt full of dumb nonsensical bullshit?
>guise i maed epic color meme for me3 ending
>hey uh me2 did the same thing
>BUT BUT BUT ITS THE LAST GAME AND THIS THIS, UM OTHER THING SO ITS NOT THE SAME
The original complaint is just about the cutscene being the same with 3 different colors. Then you get called the fuck out and try to change midway through the conversation and youre still wrong
>>340045545
I wish I could thank that humongous faggot face to face. If it weren't for hacks like him, I'd have never taken an interest in writing myself.
>>340051794
>This was the final boss and not the reapers or illusive man in ME3
Someone post that angry rant about ME3 cause remembering it brings up those feelings.
>>340053046
>THESE ARE YOUR MASS EFFECT 2 FANBOYS EVERYONE
I don't like Mass Effect 2. I much prefer the original to Gears of Effect.
>me2 was the stepping stone away from the space rpg into a earth-focusing gritty shooter game for casuals and all the smart people (ie not you) fucking saw it
I saw it. I didn't like it.
All I'm saying is that ME2's ending was better than 3.
>>340053160
People are going to love Andromeda and it will get 9/10s across the board like DAI and ME3
Cry now you poor little baby
Mass effect as a series was mediocre. Mass effect 1 was terrible, I have no idea why people praise it. shittiest gameplay in the series, "planet exploration" which consists of driving thru an empty planet to find a locked box.
>>340043468
Incase people didn't know. It's exactly the same as the opening to TOP GUN.
(First minute)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVRUxtPKK-w
>>340053182
>i dont have an argument!
Then shut the fuck up.
>>340053046
dont get me wrong ME2 was filth. but ME3 was HIV syringe filled pile of wretched, decomposing feces
>>340051831
Not sure exactly, another anon said that he was a character from the books or some such non-sense. There was an anime too, perhaps he was supposed to be part of that as well? KL seemed like a shallow edgy anime character.
>>340053251
Grats anon, what are you writing?
>>340053291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a27IdajHUU
To compare.
Theres been made exactly zero justificiation for me3 ending other than: "theres some low points in another games ending".
I think Bioware is the one case where a developer would have been better off in Microsoft's hands.
>>340053251
>the writing in ME3 was so awful people are actually taking up writing themselves because it's awfulness inspired them to make something better
that's how bad ME3 was.
Admit it.
Just admit it.
Say "I was wrong"
You know who you are. The people who shit talk 3 for having "3 colors" when you deliberately ignore that 2 did the same thing.
Just accept you are wrong and get on with your life. Stop trying to pretend it didn't happen like a holocaust denier or something.
Just stop trying to ignore the facts. Stop.
Today i will remind them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_5qcrd-6E
>>340053198
ME1 was what KOTOR should have been. Its got its share of problems bug even then its a fantastic action-RPG and one of the best in its genre. If you don't like RPGs that's fine.
The reason people are angry is that ME2 turned the series 180 and went for a literal gears of war cover shooter with shit plot and dialogue
>>340053349
He looks normal american-asian boy band member in the comic?
>>340044518
the game was bad, agreed.
But the ending, the ending was so utter shit that it cannot be described with words
It was the most insulting moment i ever had with video games
>>340053457
2 was still worse
>>340053358
>choose between three hardened backgrounds
>badass space military McGuy
>spec ops training
>game starts
>twig in a space suit
>can't shoot straight
>is ignorant about the workings of the galaxy
>boatload of more horseshit coming, brace for impact!
I get it, it's the RPG trope. But why the fuck did it have to be the RPG trope? I can't even enjoy ME1 anymore ;_;
>>340052662
you think me2's ending made... sense? how?
>shepherd we've found a vast collection of resources that we can use to study or destroy our enemies! what should we do with it?
>we should blow it up
and then all of your crew somehow agree that this was a good idea. even the cerberus characters, who have spent every moment prior to this defending everything cerberus has ever done, agree that TIM is a dick and we should fuck him over. shit doesn't make any sense at all
>>340052030
>Its not nearly that bad
FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR
The ME series was supposed to be a fucking masterpiece which you would replay again and again with dozens of endings.
They made every fucking decision uterly pointless.
I am still fucking mad over it.
>>340053628
They'd just get indoctrinated to shit, it's reaper tech.
Not that it mattered, ME3 was complete shit and they got indoctrinated anyway.
>>340053505
>that 2 did the same thing.
Are you trying to say ME2 did the same thing? Or two of the endings did?
I don't exactly get what your problem is.
>>340045880
>the ending wasn't that bad g-guys!
>>340053684
>They'd just get indoctrinated to shit, it's reaper tech.
Remember derelict Reaper?
Good god...
>>340053657
You're a fucking idiot.
The ending of 3 is the least of the series problems.
2 took a humongous turd on everything that was ever good about the series.
>>340053657
AND IT FUCKING DIED WITHIN THE FIRST 20 MINUTES OF ME2
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
YOU PRAISING THE TURD THAT WAS ME2 ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN
YOU ARE TO BLAME
Remember when IGN said we are entitled gamers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgRP5_YKu0
>>340053517
tfw it took 3 games to play as a turian and only in multiplayer
>>340053586
2 at least introduced a couple interesting characters and scenarios.
The plot is pointless, and a detour. Which is why ME3 had to introduce a retarded plot device that would fix everything. If ME2 were decently written, then it would be about trying to find the Crucible so that it wouldn't come out of nowhere in ME3. It wouldn't be about introducing a villain and vanquishing them without gaining or losing anything.
But some stuff like the loyalty missions was worth playing. I'm glad I played the game since I got to play those, but all in all ME2 is a tremendous disappointment and a major departure from the first game.
>>340053932
Life was pretty bad pre-gamergate.
>>340053693
>ME3 has three ending but theyre all just different colors! wah!
Mass effect 2's TWO endings were also just the same cutscene in two different colors.
Its an epitome of the fanbase who likes to shit on 3 for doing things that 2 introduced but was swept under the rug
>>340053560SO BE IT
>>340053971
if me2 and 3 were decently written, the crucible still wouldn't exist because it makes no fucking sense
>>340046018
Apart from having a sexbot body, no.
>>340053971
>interesting characters
uh, who?
certainly not miranda, jacob, jack, mordin, grunt, or the asari ladies.
thane and his race were kind of cool even if he personally was kind of flat.
legion is the only good thing i can think of.
>There will never be a sequel to Mass Effect
>>340044146
People have already mentioned the color thing, etc.
For me the main problem is the following: during 3 games you have been playing as Shepard. You could choose to be a "good" guy or a "bad" guy in the sense of how to treat other people, but you never, ever, in 3 games had the option to NOT fight the Reapers. There was always a "core" Shepard to which the player had no acces. And that's a good thing. To some extent it's the same with Geralt in The Witcher games: you have some freedom and choices, but still there is an amount of things that you can't choose to do, because the character would simply not be him/her anymore.
This is broken in the end of ME3. For the first time you can wonder if destroying the Reapers is the best way to go. For the first time you get to choose what to do with them other than total annihilation. The player had never this choice, and it proves all the shit that the game went through in the writing process by the time they arrived to this point.
The only way to deal with this (in a way completely not thought by the developers) is the famous indoctrination theory. It's the only way I fool myself into believing there could be a reason why you, as a player, get that choice in the end of the game.
Still not even that can solve the pain you suffer when you see the video with all the possible 16 different endings at the same time. Ridiculous.
>>340051137
>overly-patriotic cunt
You insinuate this as a bad thing, also explain how she is even patriotic?
>>340054126
oh fuck off mordin was great
Why did so many characters have daddy issues?
I am thinking about replaying the series and playing three for the first time. Is there a place that has the games for PC for cheap? Can't pirate due to some issues.
>>340045880
Are people seriously mad that they didn't animate it differently? What about Deus Ex's ending? That shit was just screenshots with some text.
And after your webm there are different scenes depending on which you picked.
>>340054126
Jacob was the worst, literally a boring token nigger. No character at all even with his story quest.
>>340054126
>uh, who?
>certainly not everyone
Not the guy you're arguing with but dude just go to another thread
>>340054143
Why do I want this to be a real thing?
>>340054126
Mordin was interesting particularly when it comes down to his loyalty mission. Though the gameplay isn't tremendously interesting, I thought it was the high water mark of Mass Effect 2's writing.
>>340054078
Point is that Mass Effect 2 should have advanced the overarching story.
You can go straight from ME1 to ME3 without missing a thing.
>>340054078
I've never raged at vidya in my entire life. except with one exception.
mass effect 3 holds the title of the only video game to ever make me rage. well played bioware. well fucking played.
>>340053276
Ultimately ME1 had an atmosphere and a potential.
ME2 lost the atmosphere and failed to realise the potential, in fact it even scratched ME1 symbolically at the very beginning by killing Shepard.
ME3 is a sequel to ME2 but with an even worse ending.
>>340054270
First, those scenes didn't happen until they made a DLC that "fixed" it.
Second, point me to a single person here that was happy with Deus Ex's ending? HR, right?
>>340054407
This. ME1 is unique; the sequels are interchangeable with Gears of War.
I wanted ME2 to advance the first game and eliminate its flaws - not to throw everything that worked out of the window.
>>340054407
>ME2 had no atmosphere
lethality yourself
>>340054537
It had a different atmosphere. It lost ME1's atmosphere. Get it now?
I am never going to buy anything where EA or Bioware were involved ever again. That's all.
>>340054583
You've only revealed that you are a meme
>>340054637
that makes 2 of us. I can only hope that this experience turned many more people away from those hacks.
fuck mass effect. it started out great and ended up... yeah.
next game pls
>oh hey cerberus is not only no longer some small but deadly splinter group, its actually now some kind of legal paramilitary political group okay
>oh hey, cerberus is not only no longer some kind of legal paramilitary political group, its a galaxy spanning super army capable of flexing it's muscle wherever it pleases and also the Illusive Man, a deep character with interesting though shady motivations is now a saturday morning cartoon villain shaking his fist at the Normandy and saying "CURSE YOU SHEPARD!"
>>340055128
They literally said they were mass kidnapping humans then implanting them with reaper shit to make instant shock troopers you diphthong
>>340055128
wasted potential. there was so many good things in me universe that were fucked with.
>>340055269
coz they had trouble recruiting soldiers out of tens of billions of people
>There are people here who think that ME2 is better than one
>There are people here who think the story didn't turn into massive shit after one
>There are people here who didn't appreciate the classic sci-fi themes and style of one and prefer the bland "SHOOTAR GRIM" style of two
>There are people here who complain about planets and UI when Mass Effect 2 didnt have an inventory system or explorable planets
>Theses people are in this thread and in this board and are free to go to any thread they choose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhesDs6FWpo
>>340055960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IitCQCaKi3E
brb, reinstalling Mass Effect.
Im going to marry EDI
>>340055960
you gotta admit though that manually converting two million items into omnigel every ten minutes was annoying as fuck
not that ripping out the entire inventory system was an appropriate solution, though
>>340056129
would you say that you are a patrician?
>>340051220
Ending-wise? Life is Strange - though I guess it's not technically the same thing.
Still total shit though
>>340055128
>the Illusive Man, a deep character with interesting though shady motivations
He never was any of that.
>>340056271
Oh he had plenty shady in his motivations. So much so, that he himself didn't know what he was doing.
>>340050998
I will say that the multiplayer was the only good aspect of the game. I played through Mass Effect 3 like twice, couldn't bother to do it any more than that. However I play the multiplayer at least once a week with my friends.
>>340056187
Both the gameplay and inventory system were rough prototypes waiting to be improved later in the next game. Instead nuBioware butchered it all and put in a shit plot straight with le Terminator reference XD and mainstream press and normies applauded them for it.
Fuck casuals, they ruin everything they touch.
>>340056431
It's a really bad thing that ME3 makes sales via that.
>>340043971
What is DA2?
ME1 was great
ME2 was fine
ME3 was dogshitbecause of the ending
>>340056547
It's also bad that anyone actually likes the multiplayer in the first place when you can play something objectively better like Warframe.
>>340056726
>because of the ending
No.
>tfw i'm the only one on /v/ who loves the trilogy in its entirety and unconditionally, and accepts all of its flaws...
>tfw /v/ shits on my fav video game in every thread about it...
why live
>>340054407
>ME2 lost the atmosphere
It arguably had a better atmosphere than anything in ME1.
Omega alone blows the fuck out most of ME1 locations in that aspect with the exception of Noveria maybe.
>>340056692
Anyone not seeing how shit that one was gonna be by the marketing snippets we got, deserves to be disappointed by DA2.
>>340056809
well there was also the fact that too many decisions from earlier games were made into simple "win credits" I forgot what they called them
>>340051562
Fuck neo bioware. Those stupid fucks made a plot point which was entirely irreconcilable with a renegade Shepard, which is a half of all conversations and actions.
Fuck those lazy fucks, and fuck them for making me this upset at video games
> that me2 worse than me1 meme again
>>340043468
People who were disappointed by 3 deserve what they got. It was obvious that 3 was gonna be a shit game, 2 was the real game that ruined the franchise and turned everything into a generic uninteresting mess.
>>340056892
>It arguably had a better atmosphere than anything in ME1.
Nope. Not even close
>>340056859
You can like shit all you want. Just accept that it's shit.
>>340057094
This. I'd kill for a true sequel to the first game.
>>340056859
You are not alone, fellow anon. You are not alone.
>>340057124
Even that side quest where you need to explore a crashed space ship on a verge of falling from a cliff had better atmosphere than Ilos.
>>340056859
Same
>>340057267
I have no idea how it's so possible to be so wrong.
>>340057267
Nigga you what, shitting on Feros, Noveria or Therum is perfectly valid but Ilos was great.
ME1 is mediocre in every sense of the word. The story is decent (but cliche and generic). The setting and music is god tier. However, the actual gameplay (the most important aspect of a game) is shit. The combat is extremely clunky, classes don't feel unique. Weapons are all copy pasted bullshit. Same goes for armor, and all loot in general in the game. Any mission outside of the main quest, is garbage. Too many reused maps and locals. Exploration (no matter how much /v/ tries to claim is good) is shit. The companions are okay, but not great. Overall ME1 has just as many problems as the sequels (actually more), yet fags like to ignore them, and claim this is a great game. The entire trilogy is average in every way, and is full of flaws, 2 is the best it ever got.
>>340057267
I disagree
>>340057267
implying ME1 babbies even tried exploring in ME2 to find that mission in the first place
>>340057160
I still can't get over the pain I feel when I hear M4 part 2. The game had some god damn incredible sci fi vibes that I haven't felt since 90's n64 games. I loved that even the synth in the game had that vibe. Then 2 turned everything into gritty grungy orange and red themes and orchestral garbage and SUPER SERIOUS. I fucking hate 2 for ruining everything. Not only that but like removing ALL THAT RPG CUSTOMIZATION AND LEVEL UPS GOD DAMN IM STILL PISSED.
>>340057430
>yet fags like to ignore them
Because sequels are supposed to improve them.
>The entire trilogy is average in every way, and is full of flaws
It's pretty bad. But the potential was significant.
>2 is the best it ever got.
Too bad it had nothing to do with the trilogy. Any trilogy.
>>340057124
>implying normandy crash site doesn't shit on ilos
>>340057267
I think we have different definitions of atmosphere. I think atmosphere is a combination of music and art over a specific area to push a certain theme. the loneliness of IIlos helps you get into the mindset of the AI trapped there. The cold harshness of Noveria helps you ease into the corporate greed and ruthlessness of all the people there.
How do you define atmosphere?
>>340057430
> The entire trilogy is average in every way, and is full of flaws, 2 is the best it ever got.
This is where we disagree. Mass Effect was a unique space opera, Mass Effect 2 was generic and plain. I wanted Mass Effect to improve, I didn't want it to be replaced by something completely different under the same name. I can play Gears of War anywhere, but there's only one Mass Effect, warts and all.
>>340057430
The thing about that is that Mass Effect 1 is an RPG. And being that Role Playing games are all about Immersion, the soundtrack and setting were fucking god like and made up for the lackluster gameplay. 2 improved the gameplay and removed the RPG greatness and atmosphere, effectively making it garbage in my eyes.
>>340056386
Just like... the reapers!
BIOWARE WRITES GAMES LIKE POETRY!
>>340045205
Nah /pol/ would still exist, it would just be filled with Libertarians and Socialists nipping at each others throats.
>>340057620
>removed the RPG
wrong
