Some of you noobs are alright. Don't go to Falador tomorrow.
>falador massacre happened on 6/6/06
Well shit.
>>340037594
>mfw 2006 was 20 years ago
>>340037903
holy shit did you just
>it's been over 10 years since construction was introduced
what was the beginning of the end? GE?
>>340038027
G.E wasn't a downward spiral. G.E is very nice but merching clans are what ruined it wholesale. The deicsions and direction after G.E made the game worse. 2010-11 were the best years for me.
>>340038027
GE was the end for me.
>>340038102
For me the GE was the beginning of the bad, or maybe the wilderness ditch. The GE update also introduced trading limits so at max quest points you could only lend a friend 30k - all trading had to be done through the GE.
>>340038027
EG was the beginning.
EoC was the final nail.
>>340038871
Removal of wildy and free trade completely crashed the game. The limited trading was so fucking shit.
>>340038027
Nothing the game got better, you just got bored of it
Sick of WoWfags trying to project that just because their game went to shit so did other MMO's
>>340042136
I just wanted to hang out in the bandit camp and cook anchovy pizzas, but it's pretty much impossible when you're always being hounded by those stupid high level ghosts with ice/teleblock that were more dangerous than any actual player.
>>340042136
Yeah, I don't really know what Jagex were thinking with that one. It basically removed all relevant player interaction and turned it into a single player MMO. I guess it largely removed the ability to buy and sell real world money, but if the method you use to do that is raping your own game to a shadow of its former self, you should probably think twice.
Reminder that Old-school is shaping up to be everything we wanted. Jagex truly the goat MMO company
>>340042636
Zeah can suck a dick
>>340042636
I haven't kept up with that.
Have they added content with the old design philosophy in mind? Have they kept the graphics the same?
>>340042839
Yes, definitely, with the exception of like one bad update they seemed to have learned from. We just got a new quest too, Monkey Madness 2, it was fantastic.
>>340038727
Yea me too!
I loved having to spam in a sea of chat and lurk dead forums just to sell all my shitty junk! >X(
>>340042636
>07fags hated new updates
>07fags want new updates
Are 07fags genuinely retarded??
post tehnoobshow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2gSuyqijI
>>340042636
its too easy desu
money snek broke the game
The Falador Massacre is easily one of the most interesting glitches/emergent gameplay I know of. Are there any other MMOs with similarly cool glitches or exploits that had a huge impact on the game's playerbase and economy?
>>340044837
Eve
>>340038871
>The GE update also introduced trading limits so at max quest points you could only lend a friend 30k - all trading had to be done through the GE.
That's a whole different issue from GE. GE on its own is a good thing.
Besides that, people used junk to trade items in bigger values than GE.
People literally only whine about GE because it was introduced at the same time as trade limit + wildy removal in an effort to combat RWT.
>>340036502
Thanks for reminding me my osrs account exists - remembered I have 18m worth of fire/air runes flipping at GE
>>340042636
A game where Mods listen to grill gamers who fake cancer for money?
>>340044837
> a huge impact on the game's playerbase and economy?
It didn't have any lasting effects m8
>>340042234
There are literally more people playing OSRS than current Runescape. People just prefer 07scape. And a lot of those players aren't even returning members. Even the noobs of 2016 know OSRS is better.
And nobody brought WoW up but you. I think you're the one who is mad about WoW.
>>340045508
>>340045508
Don't you have to be a paying member to play old school runescape?
>>340045918
No. F2P worlds are riddled with bots and P2P has tons of them as well.
>>340044507
What are you so upset about?
>>340044837
I seriously hope you're kidding
That never happened and is nothing more than a ghost story
>>340046171
Is this a new meme?
>>340046171
>That never happened
there are recordings of it happening though
i even remember being there when it happened
the fuck are you talking about nigger
>>340046062
the GE? Try reading the reply chain, it isnt that long
>>340046429
>>340046390
>Private servers
>>340046506
So it is a new meme.
>>340045823
>bybiuvaldove
>mfw modern runescape is the best its ever been
>mfw nostalgiafags cant get over muh grand exchange
>>340044837
There was the curse thing in WoW. as in, there'd be an item that transferred a disease or some shit.
http://www.misplaceditems.com/rs_tools/graph/
>oldschool runescape still more popular than EOC
Fucking lol
>>340046714
Are you kidding?
There's hardly any reason to talk to strangers now.
>>340046745
Spreading Corrupted Blood was done by dismissing a pet that had the debuff and then resummoning it in capital. Not really a glitch.
>>340046882
See >>340045823
>>340046926
>/v/'s definition of talking to strangers
>Selling X for Y x2000 or until you get bored and leave
I wonder what people do in Clan Chats / Friend Chats / all around now that chat was literally disabled thanks to GE.
>>340046931
>not even chinese gold farmers want to play new Runescape
fucking lol
>>340045250
>grill gamers who fake cancer for money
what happened to rs?
>>340046745
It was a debuff you were only meant to have in a boss fight but you could bring it back to the cities by having it on a pet that was dismissed. It did damage until the target died, and when the target died all players in range also got infected IIRC. I don't think there's ever been something in another MMO that wiped out that many people. Though in WoW of course dying doesn't punish you THAT harshly (just some repair bills and time wasted), but you also couldn't respawn while the plague was going on since you'd just get infected again.
If something like that happened in EVE or something it'd be absolutely insane.
>>340047013
Because bot detection is better :-)
>>340046926
>wanting to talk to strangers
the 20th century called, they want their MMO design back
>>340045972
If they didn't require a monthly sub to experience the member areas of Old school runes cape I'd probably play it
>>340047008
>/v/'s definition of talking to strangers
>Talking to clan members/friends
>>340042136
>Removal of wildy
What the FUCK
>>340047008
>trading in an MMO is inconvenient jagex please automate it so I can save time while playing Runescape!!
>>340040774
EoC did it for me
>>340047115
You can buy membership with in-game gold now. Costs about 2.6mil for 14 days.
>>340047045
Emily has been a complete joke to players ever since. But for some reasons some mods still listen to them whine about how they're stalked and harassed and what not (performing cry emote / crashing). Literally pref treatment.
>>340047124
Or you know, people anywhere in the world.
But obviously you can't do that now that you don't have to spam one single message hundreds of times.
>>340047174
You do realise that back then Auto Talkers were against the rules (most people used them anyhow) and with OSRS they quickly had to introduce auto talker for EVERYONE because it was that shit outside of checking Zybez.
>>340047161
they removed pking in the wilderness and replaced it with bounty hunter back in 2007 or 2008
Zezima is multiple people! Wake up and see the truth sheeple!
>>340047124
Also, friend chats, especially popular ones would always have tons of strangers in them.
>>340047056
EvE is much more treachery and insane consequences from minor events.
Like one of the most massive war due to someone forgettign to pay the rent, or the Goons ( largest group in the game) fucking with the wrong people ( In-Game Bankers and Casino's ) then getting buttfucked when fuckign everyone else ally against them
>>340047268
>You do realise that back then Auto Talkers were against the rules (most people used them anyhow) and with OSRS they quickly had to introduce auto talker for EVERYONE because it was that shit outside of checking Zybez
There was nothing wrong with oldschool trading. They implemented the GE and autotypers because underage memers who hate MMOs think playing Runescape is about instant gratification.
>I enjoy it when Mr. Goldberg strips my MMOs of life for the sake of efficiency
>>340047553
> They implemented the GE and autotypers because underage memers who hate MMOs think playing Runescape is about instant gratification.
Confirmed for never playing back in pre-ge era.
Auto-talker was the only real way to actually compete. If you didn't one, you would always lose out since no way you're going to manually add colours and effects to your text as well as typing long ass text.
>instant gratification
Fuck off with this meme. Having to spam same text over and over or try and sell (or buy) niche items was fucking boring as shit.
With GE you can just put offers and shit and TALK WITH PEOPLE or DO SOMETHING ELSE instead.
>>340047268
I used to watch Emily and this other girl streamer Erin. Does she still play? Are there any good cute gril streamers?
>>340047627
Just fuck off. Only plain dumbfucks will claim that GE is bad.
Go back to training on those goblins til 126 so you can show how much you hate efficiency.
>>340047718
I have no idea about streamers beyond Emily drama.
I just watch A Friend's videos.
>>340047553
There was plenty wrong. Standing around for hours, and then maybe never selling, is ridiculous. And you won't be idle doing it because you have to manually type huuuge sentences. And autotypers are against the rules, so rip wrists
>>340047553
What kind of mental gymnastics are you having to do to think sitting around in a bank spamming the same message for an hour is actually better than playing the game?
Why didn't they add a real auction house?
>>340047878
It would probably be hard to make one that wouldn't be a complete clusterfuck since it's all servers together.
>>340047718
dalek cookie best girl. sabersix hasn't played in a long time.
>>340047878
That happened in poh
>>340047691
>>340047808
>>340047868
>standing around for hours isn't runescape dude come on. standing around for hours was boring shit dude
>I'd rather be somewhere else standing around for hours man trading isn't what Runescape or MMOs are about
why did retards like you have to kill it
>>340036502
Those graphics.
Ok, where's my copy of SILVER?
gotta replay that shit again!
>>340048046
No, you're the retard here.
According to you:
>Sit around doing nothing but spamming one message over and over while auto-talkers beat you constantly
>Do this for 2 hours
>This is amazing
>Put stuff on GE on buy/sell
>Go do minigames, quests, skill, talk, whatever you fucking want
>Do this for 2 hours
>THIS IS BAD THIS KILLS THE GAME
>>340047218
Seconded.
>>340047782
>I play MMOs competitively
>>340048046
Look mongoloid, there was nothing special about it and there wasn't when it returned. People realized how much of an improvement G.E was over sitting there competing against autotypers.
It wasn't fun, stop looking at it through rose-tinted glasses. It was literally standing around and spamming the chat for hours on end.
It's your turn now to explain: What was the appeal? What was fun about it?
>>340048195
Fucking normie Scum doesnt understand comfy, never has.
>>340048250
Nice strawman, m8.
>>340048195
>interacting and bartering with other players in an MMO in order to buy/sell goods is retarded
why couldn't you kids just fuck off to some other game if you don't like MMOs. this is how they all end up dead.
>>340046745
Not really significant but there was that one time DKs got glitched and could attack their own faction who were unable to fight back.
So then several DKs across the realm started slaughtering their fellow men while screaming praises to the Lich King.
That day all Goldshire ERP people were butchered like pigs.
>>340048195
Why don't you play a single player RPG if you hate player interaction that much.
>when you sell someone mithril as rune armor and they dont notice until the transaction is made
>>340048332
Sorry but when my hands are sore from all the typing it's far from fucking comfy.
>>340048369
>>340048431
Yes, because there just was no interaction in skilling, talking or minigames, right?
Fuck off retard(s)
>>340048370
i remember that
funnest time i had on moon guard as a death knight
>>340042636
jagex fucked over everything they created
old school runescape is okay, but it should have been released years before it was released.
What if i don't feel like standing around spamming the same message for an hour just to sell an item?
>>340048287
>stop looking at it through rose-tinted glasses
How long will this retard fucking """argument""" be used to shoot down good game design? It wasn't nostalgia retard, OSRS was without the GE a little over a year ago. DMM doesn't have the GE at all and that's even more recent. The game is way more fun without this cancerous feature because you and everyone else has to interact with each other in order to trade. It fosters real social interaction and a living economy because players have to go to one another to get the items they need. It's really simple.
If you play Runescape for convenience and to save time, who's the real retard here bud?
>Selling items totally took hours guys xDD
Confirmed for never having played the game before GE
>>340048498
>Yes, because there just was no interaction in skilling, talking or minigames, right?
There's no interaction in trading anymore. That's bad because trading is one of the major features of the game.
>>340048702
did you not play rs07 at all?
trading was basically just posting things on zybez
>>340038027
Skill capes was the beginning of the end. After skill capes, nobody cared about anything but getting that dumb fucking cooking cape, and if you didn't have one you were a loser.
Then friends chat came and destroyed all community forever.
>>340048702
>It fosters real social interaction
I knew it, you were one of those fucking people who couldn't get any friends in the game so they ended up pretending that trading with spamming messages and ending up trading to people you only see once was the height of player interaction.
But you go do that (since it's not removed from the game) while I have fun with friends, go bossing with friends, go play some minigames, skill and chat and generally chat around.
>>340048832
> That's bad because trading is one of the major features of the game.
Fuck off retard.
>>340048826
I think that's what it is. 17 year olds started playing in 2010 and think they know what the fuck they're talking about. If they wanted to save as much time as possible, they should probably not play the fucking game at all. Instead they stick around for some reason and vote for features that lead to the game turning into shit.
Holy shit I know Im late to the game but I just found out about old school runescape. Im going to be playing this all day
>finally hit mining 50 or whatever it took for those dwarf fucks to let me mine coal
>running back and forth between mine and bank
>selling coal for hours on end
I remember getting my first million. That was awesome.
Is the game worth getting in to again if I played RS religiously back in the days?
Nice thread
DENYING THE LYING
>>340048879
>Then friends chat came and destroyed all community forever.
This must be the dumbest statement I've ever fucking heard beyond claiming how trading was the pinnacle of player interaction.
>>340048826
Hey dude, you up to buy my fucking niche TT items?
Or 1 ore of this and that? Or all kinds of assorted shit? Didn't think so.
>>340048961
>2010
What?
>>340049020
theres a shit load of new content/changes/etc
a lot of its p gud, zeah is shit for the most part besides woodcutting guild
Also, why do you retards even bother with these threads if you hate the game so much?
Go play on /v/scape and post there.
>>340049021
If you go OSRS yeah.
>>340048876
>did you not play rs07 at all?
>trading was basically just posting things on zybez
I played OSRS for years. I played retail Runescape from 2004 to 2009. Trading with Zybez isn't any different than trading without it as far as social interaction goes. You still have to talk to another human being, agree on a place to meet, negotiate prices if you wish, risk being scammed, etc.
>>340048946
So you have no arguments then. I'll chalk this up as another internet argument won for myself.
>>340049053
>Hey dude, you up to buying my worthless shit
Maybe you should try selling something people would want to buy instead
>>340049079
its lagging a lot for me...is this normal or does my computer just suck
>>340049053
Before friends chat= every skilling place people are talking, new friends every other day
After friends chat = get introduced to a friends chat and have to suck up to people to get into the clique and then you have friends, and now you have to spend every day talking with just these people or they delete you
>>340049210
>So you have no arguments then
Where's your argument?
>You still have to talk to another human being, agree on a place to meet, negotiate prices if you wish, risk being scammed, etc.
Stop being a fucking retard. 99% time they sit in Varrock W bank and you just say how many you need. Literally the same as fucking GE. Only difference is that you need to find the bankstander in the bank.
But you're the fucking retard that plagues these threads and doesn't even realise how dumb he is for acting like scamming doesn't exist anymore.
>>340049323
With GE I can sell them. So, good stuff.
>>340048702
It was a massive fucking waste of time and people would use zybez instead anyway, because guess what, I didn't fucking befriend the hundreds of people I was forced to trade with.
Player trading has its charms, sure, but people would take massive shortcuts if they could because RuneScape is the kind of game that requires thousands upon thousands of hours of grinding. So much time would be spent selling shit or buying shit. God forbid you forgot something and had to find another buyer.
>>340049210
as someone who has 99 slayer and had to do the majority of it without ge
fuck you nigger, you have no clue how hard it was to get rid of all my drops
what a fucking chore that was
but muh player interaction, right
>>340049345
are you using the downloadable rs07 client by jagex? it can be rather cpu heavy, but yeah your computer might be shit
>>340049032
>>340047286
>Ctrl + F Zezima
Thanks
>>340048879
i like top 100 cooking xp with shitty 18m xp? before capes came out
cooked food cost more than raw too, but after capes it switched
>>340049358
>and now you have to spend every day talking with just these people or they delete you
Like fuck they will. I used several big FCs and made tons of friends and just plain pals. Only if they're shitters will they ever delete you.
And it didn't stop skilling talking.
>>340049396
>what a fucking chore that was
nigga you are playing runescape what the fuck
>>340049496
Just fuck off, dumb frogposter.
Your only argument is
>but it's RuneScape so it should be a fucking 1000 hour job to sell items!
>Selling them in 1 hour instead of 1000 is so fucking bad because that leaves you with 999 hours to do something else! That's bad!
>>340049496
lmao nigga massive inconveniences are a part of the experience xDD
>>340047080
I want to smack you across the face
>>340049590
You're the reason everything is streamlined and simplified to shit these days.
can we talk about how osbuddy killed rs07
>>340049589
My argument is that social interaction and dynamic trading in an MMO is good. If you play Runescape to be as efficient as possible and save every little minute here and there, you're a fucking retard. This is the type of shit that ends every half-decent MMO. Retards like you come along who don't actually enjoy playing the game and demand it be changed so you don't have to play it as much.
Literally who are these people that play MMOs in the most efficient manner they can as if to get the game out of the way as quickly as possible?
>>340049773
>My argument is that social interaction and dynamic trading in an MMO is good.
Yes and you can fucking spend every fucking minute of the fucking time you save with GE actually interacting with people instead of fucking spamming SELLING 2918 COAL Y EA.
But for some reason you only acknowledge that as interacting with players and nothing else.
> If you play Runescape to be as efficient as possible and save every little minute here and there, you're a fucking retard
When it's a matter of fucking hours (and possibly still end up empty handed because no buyers/sellers at the time) it's not even about fucking efficiency.
I've never been about fucking top tier efficiency in RS, maximising ticks and shit is fucking stupid. This however has nothing to do with that.
Like I said yesterday; you're literally the type that would fucking hit goblins until they are 126 and when someone asks why the fuck are you still doing it you'd sperg out about EFFICIENCY FUCK YOU STOP RUINING THE GAME WAAAH
>>340049725
Fucking kill yourself you frogposter. Just because I want one thing doesn't mean I want everything else. I too was pissed about G.E for a while before I realized how much fucking time it took to trade ANYTHING. Selling slayer loot is a fucking nightmare. How could anyone actually want to deal with that shit is beyond me, because people end up using the forums instead.
Like, the only fucking arguments you folks have are how "casual" it is and how making something more convenient is killing the goddamn industry. Please jump off a balcony.
>>340036502
This was 10 fucking years ago to the day. What the fuck, where has the time gone?
>>340049969
Retards. The same logic they're using to argue for the GE could be applied equally to an instant I-Win button that levels you up to 2200 total level and gives you every item in the game.
>g-grinding skills manually is boring! I could be doing more interesting things instead of fishing for bazillions of hours!
>farming g-gold is tedious! nobody wants to stand around for days at a time clicking every 30 seconds!
They legitimately do not enjoy playing the game, but stick around for some odd reason.
>>340049773
And like I already said the auto talkers were EVERYWHERE and they were still muteable offence. But even then you were constantly underhanded because you'd have to manually type everything. Repeatedly. You'd have no time for green or shake or anything because it takes too long.
Bots and auto-talkers didn't have that problem.
>>340050159
> The same logic they're using to argue for the GE could be applied equally to an instant I-Win button that levels you up to 2200 total level and gives you every item in the game.
You have some fucking stupid logic.
i still play RS3
fuck off nostalgia faggots
>>340050248
>You'd have no time for green or shake
Confirmed for being a shit typer.
>>340050034
>Yes and you can fucking spend every fucking minute of the fucking time you save with GE actually interacting with people instead of fucking spamming SELLING 2918 COAL Y EA.
>But for some reason you only acknowledge that as interacting with players and nothing else.
Just because you can socialize in other ways doesn't justify removing it in the trading aspect. I'd argue that meaningful interaction (interaction that has real gameplay consequences, ie trading) is 100x more important than spouting memes in your cancerous FC.
>When it's a matter of fucking hours
So you're complaining about having to play the game wasting your time. nice
>Like I said yesterday; you're literally the type that would fucking hit goblins until they are 126 and when someone asks why the fuck are you still doing it you'd sperg out about EFFICIENCY FUCK YOU STOP RUINING THE GAME WAAAH
Strawman. There's quite a difference between maxing skills in the most inefficient ways possible and trading in an MMO staying intact.
>>340050159
>They legitimately do not enjoy playing the game, but stick around for some odd reason.
God you are a fucking blight you cancerous faggot. This is completely fucking illogical. G.E. is a quality of life improvement. You have no idea how many hours you've saved sitting around doing NOTHING while you could level up your skills because of "muh socialzing" when chances are you just posted on the forums and waited for someone to reply, which is almost the fucking same.
But no because you don't have time to try and sell like 5000 fucking maple logs you're runing the fun for everyone.
Please kill yourself.
>>340050546
But it's not meaningful. At all. It's silent player you know by name approaches you, you accept trade, you deposit agreed price and end of transaction with the occasional arguement over pricing and that's fucking it.
Also
>strawman
>"Retards like you come along who don't actually enjoy playing the game and demand it be changed so you don't have to play it as much"
shut the fuck up
>>340050248
>And like I already said the auto talkers were EVERYWHERE and they were still muteable offence. But even then you were constantly underhanded because you'd have to manually type everything. Repeatedly. You'd have no time for green or shake or anything because it takes too long.
Buying/selling things manually in world 1/2 wasn't an issue. There were designated areas for what you were looking for and it really never took more than a few minutes to make a trade unless you were looking for something really obscure.
>You have some fucking stupid logic.
Not really. You're arguing for playing the game as little as possible. Tell me how the two things aren't comparable.
One Guy Acts Retarded: The Thread
personally, i enjoyed world 2 falador
the end
>>340050480
When you do the fucking same thing over and over for hours it will kill your hands.
The last thing you need is more text to type.
>>340050546
>Just because you can socialize in other ways doesn't justify removing it in the trading aspect
But it wasn't removed you fucking retard. You can still do it if you so desire.
"meaningful"
What part of typing the same fucking text line over and over is "MEANINGFUL" interaction?
>So you're complaining about having to play the game wasting your time. nice
When it's literally a fucking waste of time nobody will do it. Only dumb nostalgiafags like yourself would bother.
>Strawman
No it isn't. You whine about fucking efficiency and what I just stated was all about efficiency. Trading inefficiently that can lead to nothing sold nothing bought instead of reliable selling/buying (with the rest time spent on other shit) is the same kind of efficiency that's skilling unefficiently instead of doing something more efficient.
>>340050697
>You're arguing for playing the game as little as possible. Tell me how the two things aren't comparable
The time saved from spamming the chat goes into other things like grinding skills. RuneScape takes a really long fucking time so like as if this'd even chafe down on the goddamn gameplay you fucking nigger.
>>340050697
>There were designated areas for what you were looking for and it really never took more than a few minutes
Yes it fucking did, even if you used the specific areas.
>you were looking for something really obscure.
Or tried to sell off MANY specific things which would lead to visits to different areas spending a lot of time in each place.
>Not really. You're arguing for playing the game as little as possible. Tell me how the two things aren't comparable.
Nigger you're fucking arguing that a literal Auction House is an "I-Win" button. It's a pretty much bog standard design thing in all MMOs you dumbfuck.
>>340050556
God you are a fucking blight you cancerous faggot. This is completely fucking illogical. The I-Win button is a quality of life improvement. You have no idea how many hours you've saved sitting around doing NOTHING while you could be doing something else because of "muh gameplay" when chances are you just AFK'd while watching a movie and cutting trees, which is almost the fucking same.
But no because you don't have time to try and cut like 5000 fucking maple logs you're runing the fun for everyone.
Please kill yourself.
>>340050918
See >>340050901
>Nigger you're fucking arguing that a literal Auction House is an "I-Win" button. It's a pretty much bog standard design thing in all MMOs you dumbfuck.
>>340050918
>The crux of RuneScape gameplay was spending ten hours on your Saturday trying to sell an inventory full of obscure items to get some dosh
>>340050797
>it saves time!
again, you're retarded
>>340050901
>Yes it fucking did, even if you used the specific areas.
On the rare occasion sure, but I'd usually bring alchs or arrows to fletch while waiting. Trading occasionally taking time and being inconvenient isn't an argument. Go play Call of Duty.
>Nigger you're fucking arguing that a literal Auction House is an "I-Win" button. It's a pretty much bog standard design thing in all MMOs you dumbfuck
The same logic used to justify one justifies the other. If you're for the GE, why are you not for an I-Win button?
>>340051139
>The crux of an MMO is player trading and interaction
ftfy, and yes you're right
>>340051187
>On the rare occasion sure, but I'd usually bring alchs or arrows to fletch while waiting.
Meanwhile I'd fletch arrows / alch while chatting about whatever I wanted with people while you're stuck spamming the same message with your auto-typer.
>Go play Call of Duty.
Good argument.
> If you're for the GE, why are you not for an I-Win button?
How the fuck is it even remotely comparable?
Tell me this. How is an auction house the same as instant lvl 2200 total level and all items in the game?
You anti-GE people are special kind of retarded.
>>340051354
>How the fuck is it even remotely comparable?
The same logic that you use to argue for the GE can be applied to the I-Win button.
>i w-w-want to play the game as little as possible!
>grinding s-skills and g-g-gold takes too much time i'd rather be doing something else!!
>runescape is 16 years old
>nobody has ripped the files and made a single player version you can fuck around with
why
>>340051581
>Single player MMO
Would be perfect for GE-fags
>>340047286
No he isnt
He did multiple interviews and still streams occasionally
>>340051529
>The same logic that you use to argue for the GE can be applied to the I-Win button.
No it fucking can't. One gives you fucking everything in the game, the other is just a fucking auction house so you can sell/buy on a whim instead of scouring around for hours.
>>i w-w-want to play the game as little as possible!
Fuck off retard, I've spent ~7k hours on the game and on Slayer alone I spent over 1000 hours to get to 99.
>grinding s-skills and g-g-gold takes too much time i'd rather be doing something else!!
Why are you stuttering you cunt?
>wasting time in runescape? pff
>an enlightened gentleman such as myself has a million different things i'd rather be doing like cutting trees and fishing lobsters
>automate the entire game as much as possible so i don't have to play it please
>>340051840
Delete this now
>>340051187
>again, you're retarded
No, I simply don't want to spend my day trying to fucking sell shit while typing my fingers off for hours.
>>340051187
>Go play Call of Duty
Typical fucking fagulas like you to bring up mass marketed trife if someone wants to not spend their entire day selling shit. You don't seem to understand how much time would've been spent trying to sell shit.
>If you're for the GE, why are you not for an I-Win button?
I'll play along here and by saying this you admit to never having used the G.E. With it came problems and inconveniences like some shit literally never selling and merch clans. But you somehow magically thinking that the G.E, a literal idle purchaser, wins the game for you, just proves you haven't fucking played with it much. It doesn't fucking give you any resources.
>>340051628
>>340051840
Kill yourself my man. Sitting around spamming and hoping for a trade would hardly pass as interactive. With an auction house in WoW, RuneScape's "sitting around and socialize :)))) please buy my shit" would certainly be blown out of the water.
I miss Hypercam
>>340051750
>No it fucking can't.
Yes it can and I just showed you how.
>One gives you fucking everything in the game, the other is just a fucking auction house so you can sell/buy on a whim instead of scouring around for hours.
The GE gives you everything in the game in the trading department. The I-Win button is just a feature that lets you beat the game on a whim without clicking trees and blue dragons for hours.
>Fuck off retard, I've spent ~7k hours on the game and on Slayer alone I spent over 1000 hours to get to 99.
If you had an I-Win button you could have spent those 7k hours doing something more productive like spamming memes in your dank FC! Looks like it's time to email Jagex and ask them to implement it.
>>340052136
>The GE gives you everything in the game in the trading department.
But so does trading since it's the same items provided the same people so trading is literally a I-Win button. Which means trading should be banned.
>>340052136
I refuse to believe someone can be this retarded. Stop responding to him.
>>340049053
>Or 1 ore of this and that?
just go to w2 fala. there was always players saying "buying all x for y each!"
and why the fuck are you trying to sell single ore anyway?
>>340052054
>No, I simply don't want to spend my day trying to fucking sell shit while typing my fingers off for hours.
So you don't enjoy playing the game. You don't enjoy social MMOs either. I guess that makes sense seeing how the GE appeals to you.
>You don't seem to understand how much time would've been spent trying to sell shit.
I know exactly how much time it took. I played the game for nearly a decade without the GE.
>I'll play along here and by saying this you admit to never having used the G.E. With it came problems and inconveniences like some shit literally never selling and merch clans. But you somehow magically thinking that the G.E, a literal idle purchaser, wins the game for you, just proves you haven't fucking played with it much. It doesn't fucking give you any resources.
I've also played the game for years with the GE. It is an I-Win button in the trading department. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be complaining about trading requiring """thousands""" of hours without it.
>Sitting around spamming and hoping for a trade would hardly pass as interactive. With an auction house in WoW, RuneScape's "sitting around and socialize :)))) please buy my shit" would certainly be blown out of the water.
Interacting with players is interactive my man. Retail Runescape without the GE was doing just fine in the middle of WoW's prime.
>>340052054
If you don't like repetition, you don't like Runescape.
People like you should just go find a private server with the give:: command.
>>340052303
>But so does trading
No it doesn't, you have to invest time and effort to get it done.
>>340052307
>>340052502
Not an argument.
>>340052707
>and why the fuck are you trying to sell single ore anyway?
Because I don't have more? It's not limited to ore either. Anything that was not a popular trade item was fucking annoying to sell & buy.
>>340052731
> It is an I-Win button in the trading department.
Just stop it you retard.
According to you, trading on its own is an I Win button since it lets you skip almost all grinding provided you have the money.
>>340052929
>No it doesn't, you have to invest time and effort to get it done.
Except that when I purchase my items for 99 Fletching/Prayer I literally skip a lot of content and grind. LITERALLY AN I WIN BUTTON!
The skills were designed with trading not being that easy in mind, the GE ruins game balance, speeds up the decline of the economy and makes merching way to fucking easy.
Only people who can't into mmo's think its even remotely a good thing.
>>340052910
>Tfw Maxed
>Tfw love GE
Stay salty, m8
>>340053070
>The skills were designed with trading not being that easy in mind
[Citation Needed]
> the GE ruins game balance, speeds up the decline of the economy and makes merching way to fucking easy.
[Citation Needed]
>>340052731
>So you don't enjoy playing the game
The game's literally not even about selling shit.
>You don't enjoy social MMOs either
You're wrong, but keep up with your retarded conclusions and presumptions.
>I played the game for nearly a decade without the GE
When did you start playing?
>I've also played the game for years with the GE. It is an I-Win button in the trading department. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be complaining about trading requiring """thousands""" of hours without it.
I think it speaks volumes that, literally even accomplishing a single trade is a victory condition for you. But keep crying you fucking faggot.
>>340052910
>If you don't like repetition, you don't like Runescape
>if you don't like one kind of repititon, you don't like RuneScape
>you can't dislike some grindy aspects
kill yourself my man.
>>340053103
Yeah well I'm literally zezima and I hate GE.
>>340053207
I'll pull up the twitch video of Ian Gower literally stating it. Give me a minute.
>>340036502
Omg lol ****** **** noob! :D
>>340052942
>>340053018
You have to earn the means to conduct trades with other players ontop of actually investing time and effort in trading. You've gotten to the point where your time is worth more than the people killing the dragons and cutting the trees. If your argument is actually "le well why is there trading at all then?!" in an MMO, you've lost the argument.
>>340053229
So why you still playing ;))?
>>340053070
>the GE ruins game balance, speeds up the decline of the economy and makes merching way to fucking easy
I don't play RuneScape: the post
Merching could be done by a single person but few people had the know-how and the same people did the same thing before G.E. Meanwhile with G.E we'd have huge clans of hundreds of people manipulating the economy, but that's an easy feat apparently.
>>340053217
>The game's literally not even about selling shit.
guess we're done here
Reminder that old school is fucking shit
>>340053312
Because one part of the game being shit, doesn't mean I'll stop playing my favorite game.
>>340053309
>You have to earn the means to conduct trades with other players ontop of actually investing time and effort in trading.
Buying something like D bones is low effort and won't take you long. You'll have your 99 banked in no time and so, you pressed the "I Win" button by buying the bones instead of doing it like any normal socially interactive person would have done and got those bones themselves. I bet those people just fucking hate playing the game when they actually buy items from other players instead of obtaining everything on their own.
>>340053391
Just fuck off from these threads frogposter. You ruined the music one as well.
>>340053421
Fuck off.
>>340053391
RuneScape's not a fucking merching simulator you fucking frogposter.
>>340053070
Yea i agree, but the GE sure does make playing a lot easier when you dont have much time on your hands.
>>340053475
>Buying something like D bones is low effort and won't take you long.
but trading without the GE took literally 1000s of hours!!! that's why we needed the GE remember?!?
>You'll have your 99 banked in no time
After investing 100s of hours obtaining the gold to do it, sure.
>Just fuck off from these threads frogposter. You ruined the music one as well.
Fuck off my musical tastes are god-tier.
>>340053661
>but trading without the GE took literally 1000s of hours!!! that's why we needed the GE remember?!?
Do I need to repeat myself? Only common items were ever easy to sell/buy. Try anything that's uncommon tradable and you'll be stuck there for a long ass fucking time.
>After investing 100s of hours obtaining the gold to do it, sure.
Besides the point. It's an I Win button where you do something else to win in something completely different.
>>340053596
Yes it was. It was THE merching simulator.
>>340053754
Just like WoW. Or EVE. Or any fucking MMO.
>>340053754
Maybe for you but fuck off I enjoyed it for different aspects. It being a "merching simulator" for random turdburglers like you was not a planned thing.
>>340053748
>Besides the point. It's an I Win button where you do something else to win in something completely different.
No it's not. Trading with the GE is zero effort. Grinding gold through slayer or bosses is still effort that requires high levels to do.
>>340053862
But that's besides the point. I already got the money so now I can press "I win" button and get 99 prayer without ever killing a single dragon.
Gold is literally the "I Win" button of RuneScape.
>>340053839
>WoW was a merching simulator
>>340053842
Yea dude I guess you're right, we just have different tastes in MMOs. I prefer older style, good MMOs and you prefer modernized streamlined dogshit. It is what it is I guess.
>>340053323
Merching before the GE was collecting items in small amounts for cheap, and selling them in bulk for a bit higher for convenience.
Merching post GE is buying 5k of item X and putting it back in the ge for a bit higher then waiting.
>>340053207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUvd6mqGCxw
Start at like 10 minutes.
>>340053938
>your terrible fucking argument
Grinding one resource, converting it to gold (via trading), and then converting that gold to another resource that you desire (via trading) isn't an I-Win button. It's not at all even remotely comparable to how trivial the GE makes trading. You're flopping around like a fish out of water with these poor arguments m8.
>>340053938
Only because of the GE.
And only for buyable skills, which the GE broke.
Games shouldn't have an I Win button.
>>340053978
>WoW was a merching simulator
Dumb frogposter knows literally nothing.
Not that it's a surprise to anyone.
>>340054192
>>340054138
I literally have the money to press the I win button of saying "buying 50k dragon bones" and in an hour or two I've already got them all.
Explain to me how it isn't an I Win button.
>>340054279
Still have to work to get the gold you fucking faggot. Here's your (you)
>>340054009
Not really, I used to merch before GE and I used to flip big items. Buying separate barrows items and selling the full set for more, dragon chains, santas/h'ween mask flipping. DFS and Godwars items were really easy to merch on release too, I bought a visage for 17m on the first day and panic sold it for 25m. It stabilized around 28.
Also remember buying BGS's for like 54m and selling for 56m on the falador bridge.
>>340054219
>doubles down on WoW being a merch simulator
>unironically calls out frogposting
>>>/r/eddit
>>340054279
>Explain to me how it isn't an I Win button.
Because you put effort into grinding the gold to buy those 50k dragon bones.
>>340054343
It doesn't matter. I have to get stuff to sell / money to buy before I can use the GE "I Win" button as well.
Trading is trading, whether you spend 10 minutes or 1 hour is irrelevant. It's an I Win button all the same.
>>340054279
Someone had to put in the work to collect all of them. You don't get 50k dragon bones to sell randomly, and you don't get 50k dragon bones very quickly by buying them in small amounts at varrock.
You didn't just get the gold by sitting at the ge and afking for 90 hours while your investments brought in 2bil.
>>340047218
>mfw I used to be a EoC supporter
I even shilled it on runescape forums both official and unofficial, even promoting it to others in-game
what was I thinking
>>340054465
So remove gold and make it a single player mmo with no trading?
>>340054478
>He doesn't know that green/blue dragon bots were extremely common
Do you honestly think that most items were sold by legit players?
>>340047064
no, that's because botting in RS3 for an hour will get you half a dollar whereas botting in OS for an hour will get you 4 times that
>>340054362
Yeah, but you had to work to find a buyer and a seller. Haggling was actually a thing too depending on what you were trading.
With the GE, people are doing that while grinding slayer.
>>340054604
There are still bots flooding the GE. They are more common now because the GE makes it so easy.
>>340053596
I stopped playing quite a while ago but I still log in to merch shit, always loved rs economy
>>340054465
>It doesn't matter. I have to get stuff to sell / money to buy before I can use the GE "I Win" button as well.
Using the GE removes player interaction and the time/effort required to make trades. That's why it's a shit feature and an I-Win button compared to old school trading.
>10 minutes
being a little generous to the GE m8
>>340054865
>Using the GE removes player interaction and the time/effort required to make trades. That's why it's a shit feature and an I-Win button compared to old school trading.
Trading is trading. It's an I win button all the same.
Anyhow, I've just been doing this shit because your argument about Auction House being "I Win" is hilariously stupid.
DUDE I FUCKING BOUGHT A BRONZE DAGGER ON GE INSTEAD OF SPENDING 10 MINUTES TO GET IT FROM A STORE BUMFUCKNOWhERE
I
WIN
>Using the GE removes player interaction
I love this meme.
>>340054465
Time is literally the only thing that counts in runescape.
Progress is measured in efficient hours played for gods sake. The difference between 10 minutes and 1 hour is never irrelevant.
>>340055031
>I don't want to invest 10 minutes in Runescape getting an obscure item I want everything instantly!!
GEfags everyone
Durial did God's work
>>340054138
>Grinding one resource, converting it to gold (via G.E.), and then converting that gold to another resource that you desire (via G.E.) is an I-WIN button on the other hand
Holy fuck.
>>340054458
>unironically frogposts
>>340054532
And I was positive to it for a while. But it's so tame I can't play current RuneScape. The increase in cheap chinese-feeling microtransactions, the "update" to combat and the disgusting new graphics gave me cancer.
>>340055292
Let me ask you the real question. Which of these do you think is better way to promote player interaction.
Spend 2 hours spamming same line of text - nothing else.
Or spending 2 hours chatting, skilling, doing minigames, or whatever you fucking want.
>10 minutes in Runescape getting an obscure item
Try hours of trying to sell/buy one (1) of those.
>>340054593Literally Ironman mode.
Like as if anyone would spend all day sitting and spamming "selling/buying x for y". The only people that did that were noobs, or people with autotypers because most people used the forums. G.E. was only a given. There's only so many times before you get tired of using the forums when you might as well do it in game. Selling loot from slayer tasks won't take an entire week this way.
Let's celebrate the 10 year anniversary on world 308 tomorrow (since there's no OSRS world 111)
The problem with the GE was that it was almost completely unregulated with regards to volume and it being more convenient without any drawbacks with regard to price offered no incentive to try buying it from another player.
There is also the argument that skills that you learn while practicing mercantile and negotiating with other players which have practical applications outside of the game were completely lost when the GE released.
tfw want to play OSRS but don't want to lose your cute maid outfit
>>340055417
Finding players to trade with, interacting with them to make the trade, adding people to your friendlist if they're repeat buyers/sellers.
compared to
Plugging into the GE and instantly seeing through every transaction on a whim without interacting with a single player once.
Yeah the GE is an I-Win button compared to oldschool trading.
>>340055431
>Which of these do you think is better way to promote player interaction.
The one that actually revolves around player interaction aka oldschool trading.
>>340036502
>Smithing/Mining rework in September
>tfw the Elemental Workshop equipment won't get rebalanced to become leveling gear
You're given annoying puzzles in III and IV, at least make the armor power armor.
>>340055915
>The one that actually revolves around player interaction aka oldschool trading.
Minigames and talking to people don't revolve around player interaction? Jesus Fucking Christ.
>>340055734
Only noobs did slayer tasks for money though.
Merching was where the big boi bucks were at.
>I started playing Runescape 10 years ago to the day
>Still play OSRS
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>340055915
Good lord I prefer the G.E. Can actually go idle for a week without being worried my suppliers will think I died.
Call me a casual all you want but in the end it's you guys who cried over the G.E., and us who actually got it in the game.
>>340056063
>Do slayer
>Get several hundred million, 99 melees, 99 hp, 99 slayer and all the cool capes to go with it
>merch
>Have nothing but cash to show
baka
>>340056063
>Only noobs did slayer tasks for money though
Literally people's go-to method of making money and then they'd spend that dosh on skills or merching.
>>340056062
>Minigames and talking to people don't revolve around player interaction?
Using the GE doesn't revolve around player interaction.
So is OSRS like *actually* f2p? Or is it traditional Jagex "BUY A MEMEBERSHIP RIGHT NOW OR MISS 2/3rds OF THE GAME" f2p?
>>340056106
>Could of learned a couple languages, learned to play instruments and more.
>Instead spent 10000's hours on Runescape.
>>340056223
>Go to GE
>People literally talking all around while skilling and probably selling / buying on GE at the same time
It's like you want to be proven wrong.
>>340056281
>Or is it traditional Jagex "BUY A MEMEBERSHIP RIGHT NOW OR MISS 2/3rds OF THE GAME" f2p?
Then they wouldn't have any sort of income, dumbo.
>>340056106
>filename
>>340056286
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>340056351
RS3 still exists and retards probably still buy bonds.
Just asking. Thanks mate.
>>340056552
post hmm12
>>340056216
>He didn't do pest control back in the day
Yeah by the time you have all that you could of gotten 99 stats 5x faster in pest control and then merched cash way faster. You have to get all the way to 85 for a measly 2m whip drop.
GWD kinda made slayer redundant too, until ge hit and the game died.
>>340056351
>It's like you want to be proven wrong.
Using the GE itself doesn't require player interaction. Obviously you can talk to people at the GE, but compare it to Varrock West on any relatively populated world without the GE. You have an ocean of players trading and communicating with one another in a game without automated trade, not so much with the GE in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7byFeQwAKnA
>>340056601
>RS3 still exists and retards probably still buy bonds.
That's because RS3 has bond conversion into keys, membership and RuneCoins.
OSRS only has conversion into membership so bonds wouldn't exist if membership didn't exist.
>>340056676
>Pest Control
>99 Slayer
Good job m8
>>340056774
You dont need 99 slayer, its useless. 99 combat stats obviously.
>>340056713
The time you save with GE goes into other stuff. How hard is that to comprehend? When you do the "non-automated trading" all your interaction is going to revolve around spamming one single message over and over and over instead of going bossing or playing minigames or talking this and that or skilling.
>>340056868
>99 Slayer
>Useless
Wew
WHO
FUCKING
CARES
There's TOO MUCH SHIT in the game, with G.E. you can at least do SOMETHING other than spamming the Varrock fountain.
>they're actually adding separate updates for old school runesscape
That's neat. If only I could use my old character instead of starting from level 3. There's no way that I could go through that grinding again.
>>340056926
>M-muh slayer
>Muh useless cape, slow xp and slow cash skill for noobs
wew, bet you didnt get your first ags til 2010
>>340056926
>The time you save with GE goes into other stuff.
And the time you'd save with an I-Win button goes into other stuff. Glad you finally see the point. Removing core game mechanics and organic trading in an MMO (especially Runescape) is completely retarded.
>When you do the "non-automated trading" all your interaction is going to revolve around spamming one single message over and over and over
And those interactions are still interactions. If you didn't like the time investment, you should have made connections with people and learned the most efficient ways to move items. The old system rewarded experienced and knowledgeable buyers and sellers. Shitters like you wanted that aspect of the game removed entirely because you want to save every precious minute while playing Runescape.
>>340057249
Slayer is some of the best cash in the game because it's always reliable. And
>99 slayer
>useless
The point of the game is literally to max out your skills. Slayer is the slowest one in the game, over the course of it you'd likely max out a few skills and make major cash.
Consistently the best skill related moneymaker in the game aside from nat crafting but ok ;)
>wew, bet you didnt get your first ags til 2010
Considering I never PK'd, I wouldn't even need one.
>>340042136
What were they thinking when they removed wildy?
>>340057393
>The old system rewarded experienced and knowledgeable buyers and sellers
the most efficent way to trade was literally to have posts on the forums of what you sold, noob
>>340057393
>And the time you'd save with an I-Win button goes into other stuff. Glad you finally see the point. Removing core game mechanics and organic trading in an MMO (especially Runescape) is completely retarded.
But again, this argument is fucking stupid when trading in general is an I win button since you don't have to grind for the materials yourself since you can just buy them. Whether you save one hour or 10 hours is completely irrelevant. In the end you'll be saving far more hours than you'd spend grinding for the items.
>And those interactions are still interactions.
Fuck off.
>you should have made connections with people and learned the most efficient ways to move items.
Sorry Louis but I was too busy making friends and doing shit with them in the game.
>>340057526
The most efficient way to trade was to know where to make trades, what price to make the trades at, and to keep in touch with players that were always selling Coal or buying Yew logs for example. Forum posts helped at times, but you still had to interact with another human being during the process.
>>340057727
And for the 100th time. If that's your autism you can still fucking do that.
>But because you're not forced to do it was literallly D E L E T E D from the game!!!!
>>340057632
This nostalgic faggot's being completely unreasonable with the time he expects you to put into the game. Making networks, fucking seriously? I have studies, work, actual fucking shit that matters and I can't play RuneScape alone.
>>340057727
And most trades boiled down to a ten second transaction at most where you gave some autist your items in trade for something else.
No meaningful interaction was lost what-so-fucking-ever. I have shit to do, I want to grind and don't have time to talk to some random faggot who just wants to get the trade over with.
>>340057396
>Slayer is some of the best cash in the game because it's always reliable.
Yeah for noobs who didnt know how to merch ;)
>>340057405
>Considering I never PK'd, I wouldn't even need one.
You never did GWD either then, because AGS was mandatory before claws unless you wanted to get crashed.
>Consistently the best skill related moneymaker in the game
Yeah for noobs.
>>340057632
>But again, this argument is fucking stupid when trading in general is an I win button since you don't have to grind for the materials yourself since you can just buy them.
You buy the materials with gold that you grinded. Trades are typically even, you don't just have 50k dragon bones fall into your lap, you have to earn hundreds of millions of gp first.
>Fuck off.
Nice argument.
>>340057806
This is the same exact argument with LFD/LFR in WoW. When the process is automated, the pool of players you have to draw from in order to make trades the old way with is significantly diminished because 99% of people are using the automated method.
>>340057971
sent ;)
>>340047080
Can I speak to them?
I want it back too
>>340037903
there are two types of people
