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Is EU4 any good? I want to play but I don't know if it is
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Is EU4 any good? I want to play but I don't know if it is worth $99
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>>340027971

Does history give you a boner?
Do you hate the Spanish?
Do you enjoy studying maps for hours on end?
Does Poland deserve to rule eastern Europe?
Do ugly borders trigger you?
Are you afraid of big blue blobs?
Do you own a bunch of coloring books?

If you answered yes to all of these questions, EU4 might just be for you.
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Pirate it and see for yourself
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>>340028315 how do torrent
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>>340027971
>mana

lmao
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>>340027971
"Is it any good"?
You are honestly the biggest piece of shit I have seen in the past few years.
Fuck you. Fuck. You.
You are a god damned moron and a faggot to boot. I cannot honestly believe anyone could seriously ask that question of this game. It is a reasonably sized game with hundreds of seeders on any torrent site in existence. You don't need to ask /v/ about it's opinion; you could've spent the same amount of time it took to make this dumbfuck thread downloading the game off of TBP or Kickass or any private place and then forming your own opinion. It is so fucking easy, and yet, here you are.
Here you are, you scum of the earth.
When I was a child I let a man drown. I didn't know he was drowning, I just thought he was playing around, so I didn't tell anyone. He died that day and I watched his family rush to his corpse when it washed up. I have regretted my inaction for the entirety of my miserable life.
But I hope that man was your father, because if it was I'd go back and hold him under myself, you colossal imbecilic unabashed cuntsucker.
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>>340027971
Pirate it

Also Victoria 2 > CK2 = EU4 > HoI3
HoI4 could go anywhere
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>>340027971
Play EU III instead.
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>>340028529
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EU4 is a good game.

Buy the basegame and crack the DLCs.
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>>340027971
Pirate it
Cheat and create a huge army and have fun

Waiting for CK3 tho

I get the biggest boner playing CK2 with thoughts of raising a kingdom and royal family then fucking everything with legs
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I'm unironically looking forward to HoI4 even though HoI3 was disappointing
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>>340027971
Nice image you got there, let me just get my magnifying glass
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>>340028529
your try too hard fag
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>>340029074
the latest paradox games have been really good, so Im also looking forward to HoI4
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>>340028550
>CK2 = EU4 > HoI3
>HoI4 could go anywhere
>>340028907
>Cheat and create a huge army and have fun
>>340029074
>I'm unironically looking forward to HoI4 even though HoI3 was disappointing
>>340029403

Calm down people
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>>340027971
It's so fucking boring and there's nothing to do in it, except wage very simplistic wars, and wait for the same pre-written events to happen over and over.

If EU4 was the only GSG in existence, the definiton of GSG would be "like a 4X, but without gameplay"
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Just wait until it's on sale.

Also, it's not that great.
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I love it, but it's not really worth paying for on Steam. Just get it on G2A.
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>>340028550
Get a load of this pleb.
HoI3>CK2>Victoria 2>EU4
Whats the matter little boy? HoI is too hard for you? The fuck out of this thread faglord.
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>>340027971
not unless you buy all the DLC

it's pretty mediocre
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>>340028550
>liquor baron can't handle the sheer depth of HoI3
no surprise
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>>340029779
fuck off rob
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>>340029074
HoI3 is an improvement over HoI2 ( Darkest Hour ) and HoI1. I honestly do not understand the hate /v/ has for it. Please list your grievances with the game.
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EU4 is the perfect balance of action vs autism, most other /gsg/ tipping towards the wrong end of the spectrum.

It's not really meant to provide a fun experience longer than 100 years, but those first years where you exploit your enemy's weakness and out-fucking-skill everyone to establish a powerbase is godly.

There's a new patch coming out in a few months which will completely revamp the game, so you should hurry and play it now before it's completely different.
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>>340029704
>>340029779
>HoI3>CK2>Victoria 2
>Liquor meme turning Albanians into fuel simulator isn't best
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EU4 has a number of good things about it but it also has fundamentally broken and awful core mechanics like >mana. EU3: Divine Wind, particularly with mods like Magna Mundi and MEIOU, is superior.
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>>340029893
What are the details on the new patch?
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>>340030014
Mana stopped being an issue since mare nostrum. And it will be even less of an issue with the next patch which removes tech groups.
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>>340029779
HoI3 is pretty meh though. It's practically impossible to deviate from history in a significant way without playing a custom start or cheating, the supply system is shit and the devs couldn't even fix it, so they put in an arcade mode and the air and naval combat is still fucked, without any improvements from the previous game. Darkest Hour is still the best HoI game, but HoI4 is actually looking pretty good, better than anyway.
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>Watch HoI4 stream
>Italian armoured division
>Half cavalry, half infantry, one light tank
Now I understand
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>>340030085
>next patch which removes tech groups.
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>>340030085
>remove tech groups

What? How does that work?
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>>340030126
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>>340030089
>It's practically impossible to deviate from history in a significant way without playing a custom start or cheating
are you kiddingz me?
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Why people think HoI3 is hard?
The only problem i can see is creating/micromanaging armies and supply chain.
>He plays on Arcade n great power
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>>340030206
because the only similar game they have ever played is age of empires 2
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>>340030141
>>340030153
Technology is now determined by institutions that form under certain conditions and then slowly spread across the world.

Like the Renaissance appears in Italy after 1450 in a 20+ development province. It will spread quickly through high development in europe, particularly through italy, and failing to adopt it gives a 20% tech penalty until you do.
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I apparently played 50 hours of CK2 and I still had no clue wtf was going on or what I was doing, barely even conquered all of Ireland before my dude died and his kids started trying to kill each other. Is EU4 easier/harder/about the same to learn how to play?
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>>340030326
now post the screenshot where india is more developed than UK
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>>340030153
Institutions spreading
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-26th-of-may-2016.937696/
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>>340030327

It's easier to understand what's going on since it's on a larger scale, CK2 is all about your family line, EU4 is about your nation as a whole.
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>>340030181
>surrendering when Italy enters the war on your side
Only viable option, 2bh
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>>340030206
because the only similar game they have ever played is Vicky 2
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>>340030327
EUIV is totally different, you're playing as a nation not a dynasty
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>>340030326
Ah so what happens to national ideas?
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EU4 is shit
if you pirate it you are worse than a pedophile t. Johan

https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA
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>>340030509
Nothing?

Sub-Saharans get shafted pretty hard though because they're now New World tier.
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>Too early for Israel to be a starting nation in HoI4
Mod when
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Do you have autism? If yes it is good. If no, it isn't.
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>>340030636
you could release them as a puppet in HOI3
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>>340030640
>EU4
>requiring autism
How's life with ADHD?
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>>340030601
Sorry it's been ages since I played. I thought national ideas were tied to tech groups.
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>>340030636
petition them to reboot East vs. West
Man how I would have loved an Israeli campaign
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>>340030484

>Trusting the Italian peoples when it comes to warfare
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>>340030089
>not playing Black ICE
>not having SS in 1936
>control the whole world by 1945
>except Russia, fuck dat gay modifiers for Soviet motherland crap
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Who are you going to play first in HoI4?

Great Britain here. I've literally never played the UK in a GSG before. I think they're forced to start as the leader of the Allies
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>>340030926
What a dick move
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>>340030907
The whole game would have been so damn interesting. Why did they even drop it? They could have developed it concurrently with HoI4
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>>340030984
That's a war crime that will be acknowledged in the future, i'm sure.
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>>340029938
Victoria 2 is shallow at best and horribly unbalanced ( muh India ) and its piss easy,even at the highest difficulties.

>>340030089
>HoI3 is pretty meh though
Your opinion.
>its practically impossible to deviate from history without a custom start and/or cheating
The fuck are you talking about? I conquered the entire world with Wermacht multiple times and I remember one playthrough in which I,as Italy, turned against The Reich and stomped them into the ground. You didnt even play the game.

>the supply system is shit and the devs couldn't even fix it
The supply system is A-ok if you actually bother to learn how to control it. Again,a grievance from a man that either did not play the game or sucked major balls at it.
>air and naval combat is still fucked
Both of them saw significant improvements over HoI2/Darkest Hour. Again, you did not play the fucking game.
>Darkest Hour is still the best HoI game
I love DH,but this shilling is unbelievable. DH is to HoI3 as EU4 is to EU3, a simpliefied version that caters to the casals. I find it quite remarkable that people get sand in their vagina when the developer decides that he will add complexity and depth to a game,like they did with HoI3. Remember,those are the same people bitching about oversimplification of games.

Gaymers truly are the worst kind of scum on Earth.
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>>340030926
Amazing. Italians are truly masters of warfare and diplomacy.
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>>340030984
>bomb shit, get hit
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>>340030984

U S A
S
A
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>>340031201
>the axis is bad for waging war against the civilian populace
>the allies just "did what was necessary"
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>>340030206
Because they first saw it on /v/ ,gave it a whirl,realized that the game doesnt have QTEs and gave up on it for its (((complexenberg)))
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>>340031384
You better go communist or fascist family
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>>340031385
>the axis started the war
>bombed the shit out of Britain for daring to oppose German annexation of most of Poland
>waaaaaaaaaah you guise bomb our cities back harder
>it's not fair! you should only bomb us as hard as we bombed you!!!
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>>340031469

Fuck no faggot.

Ignore Europe, bring freedom to the pathetic Asian peoples.
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>>340028189
Don't even get me started on those fucking spaniards
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>>340031540
>it's 2016
>britbongs will never not try to justify their crimes
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>>340031681
>crying when you get knocked out after sucker punching someone

I'm tired of Wehraboos thinking Germany is some kind of victim
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>>340031801
>still getting this mad over a war that's 70 years back
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>>340031540
>Britain opposed the German annexation of Poland
>Nigel never wondered why did they oppose it
>Nigel is still retarded enough to think that the Allies waged the war for "preserving the Pax Europea" and not for the International Jewery

You are a part of same cattle that forms the majority of Europeans that thinks NATO destroying entire North Africa and Syria is justified and rationalized by a "moral obligation" Europe/USA has for the oppressed. Libya was a clog stopping Subsaharans going into the Europe via Sicily and Syria was the clog stopping the sandniggers getting into Europe via Turkey.

>inb4 /pol/
Whatever makes it easier for you to sleep at night faglord.
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>>340031953
>Wehraboos still get this butthurt that Germany got what was coming to them

>>340031967
Germany LITERALLY had no claim on the entirity of Poland

>m-muh Nazis HAD to take over Polan
>they needed muh lebensraum to fight world jewry!
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>>340031953

Southerners are still butt hurt about a war that they lost 151 years ago.

Sometimes people get so BTFO that they never get over it.
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>>340031801
>2016
>still believe the lies
>britbongs never learn
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>>340032168
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>>340030326
oh really for fucks sake this will really change game from being awful.
i hate spending stats for tech. it really breaks realism of the game.
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>>340032168
>unable to spell entirety
A true Englishman,eh? Sadiq is that you?
>Germany LITERALLY had no claim on the entirity of Poland
They had the claim on the entire eastern strip of Poland (including Danzig) which was taken from them in the Versailles. That territory was German/Prussian since the establishment of Germany/Prussia. Also,Nazis objected to the fact that Poles began their own ethnic cleansing of the lands stripped away from Germany and attached to Poland, needless to say, Hitler did not approve. In the end, Nazis only wanted their corridor over Danzig since their fucking country was split in two by the victors of WW1 and Poles ,after talking shit, got hit by both Nazis and Soviet Union. Also, if the integritiy of Poland was really the motif for ex-Entente to enter the war why did they not declare war to SSSR? Explain to me why you dumb chav. I know that you cant since you never read a single page of historiography from that or about that period. Pick up a copy of Keegans WW2 and actually bother to learn what conventional historians have to say about that time ( Shirer is also a must read ).
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>>340032580
so Poland deserved to be occupied, and it's people killed

but Germany was a gentle giant who dindu nuffin and it was the Jew's fault that Britain believed they had to bomb the shit out of them
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>>340032580
>expecting the eternal anglo to actually know shit about history
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>>340027971
It's not good
it's shit
so pirate it
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>WW2
>Be Allies/Commies
>Caring for Gerfags civilian lives
Literally what?
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Remember to download Veritas et Fortitudo if you like FUN
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>>340031540
Britbong here, Germany was basically just bombing factories and military installations at the start of the war. They only went after civilian targets after shit like Dresden, and never with the same intensity. We basically wiped an entire city off the map, at least temporarily. I'm under no illusions that we did some fucked up shit in our time, but on the other hand, we basically won the Battle of Britain because Germany stopped bombing the shit out of our military infrastructure weeks before it was destroyed completely, so it makes you wonder if it was worth it in the long run.

War is hell, man.
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Ever notice how every EU4 threads starts out with people shitting on it for no reason and then start stormfagging?

Why is that?
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>>340032835
>be at war
>be outraged when your enemy doesn't care about civilian lives
Literally what?
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>>340032914
Because it's ____fun____
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>>340032702
>so Poland deserved to be occupied, and it's people killed
Who said that you dumb cunt? Where did I imply that? No war is moral,in the strict sense of the word,especially total war. Hitler had a Clausewitzian outlook at war and he acted in full accordance to that fact.
>but Germany was a gentle giant who dindu nuffin and it was the Jew's fault that Britain believed they had to bomb the shit out of them

Again,I never said nor implied that. You just went on rambling like a drooling retard that you really are.
Germans/Hitler DID NOT WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH BRITAIN. You can look this shit up you fagmaster. You can also look up the fact that Britain did not want to negotiate for peace even after Hitler/Nazis offered them that multiple times. You can look up Rudolf Hess and his voyage to Britain. You can look up Balfourt Declaration from the WW1 and Irgun/Lehi attacks on British citizens after which your government did nothing. You are a dumb piece of shit britbong and you know that.
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How is your empire going, /v/?
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>>340032914
Elitism among Vicky/HoI fans. I mean, I genuinely think Vicky is the better game, but my computer is too shitty to play it at an acceptable pace and I haven't yet sunk in the time needed to figure out the economic system.

As for the stormfags; have you considered the possibility that a family of games wherein you can literally play as Nazi/Imperial Germany and take over the world might attract a certain kind of following?
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>>340032835
>>340032916
>what is total war?
American education ladies and gentlemen
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>>340032482
>le Jew meme!! XD!!

Holy fuck. Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck.
Could you faggot underage /pol/tards stay in your pig pen jerk circle please. You're so cringy and sad outside of it
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>>340033152
It goes pretty good since I'm not playing a shit game
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>>340029074
kek
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>>340033152
Which mods?
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>>1241725
First playthrough will obviously be Germany. Then either Fascist/Socialist Portugal, or El Salvador.
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>>340031150
vae victis nigger
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>>340033236
Vertias et Fortitudo
>>340033230
Was the game too hard for you, bud?
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>>340033168
No. I like running but I don't shit up Sonic threads about arguments over which jogging shoes to wear.
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I played EU4 today after not having played in 7+ months or so.

What the fuck has the latest 2 DLC's or so done?

What the fuck is a favor? What the fuck?
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>>340033050
Hitler knew that Britain and France had guaranteed Poland.

The Germans absolutely knew the consequences of war with Poland, they were not stabbed in the back by Britain. Britain had received an assurance from Germany that they would not invade Poland, and yet they still went ahead and did it.

You're simply resorting to ad hominem because in reality you know the Germans broke every agreement they had made with the Allies, who were much more against war in Europe than Hitler was.
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>>340033236
Not him, but I'm willing to bet it's Veritas et Fortitudio because of the pre-1444 date.
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>>340033152
>TURKEY
>RUM
>POLAND
>NORWAY
for what purpose ?
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>>340032506
You still HAVE to spend stats on tech.
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>>340030984
Italy. I want to see what the war would've been like if the Italians actually pulled their weight.
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>>340033152
I had a really good run as Ethiopia going, but the Ottomemes stomped my shit after I ate the mamluks. I wish I could enjoy playing in the europe and africa regions, but it seems like if you are in Europe you have to deal with Austria's HRE bullshit all day and if you are in Africa you either fuck with final boss ottomans on the east or final boss spain on the west and if they take the initiative early you're fucked.
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>>340033340
Then you're a sensible and emotionally well-adjusted person.

Do you see where the problem lies here?
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>>340033312
I play HoI 3 and Darkest Hour bub, don't think your pseudo 4x game is hard to learn
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>>340033385
Can't see what's wrong here (except for Turkey).
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Can you build a gay empire focused on homosex?
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>>340033459
Yeah, just play as Serbia
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>>340033459

Sweden is still in there
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>mana points
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>still not cracked
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>>340033348
Tl, Dr: alliances as you know them are fucked. Allies now never join wars pro gratis unless I think they're rivals with the target. You have to persuade them by either promising provinces of interest in the peace deal or coercing them with Favours, which represent diplomatic clout with them. You get 1 favour every 10 years with an alliance, plus getting called into a war using favours gives you favours with that ally.

I kind of like it but it majorly fucks up small nation/OPM playthroughs because it takes at least 10 years to do anything.
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>>340033152
Polecucks dropping like flies. Ming westernized for 20 years but I managed to protectorate them in the last moment.
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>LE EBIN GROßSVERIGE MEME IN EVERY FUCKING GRAND STRATEGY GAME

just once, can they not be overpowered and blob?
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>>340033459
Disgusting degenerate. Your kind will be the first in the camps once we, the alt-right, have taken over society.
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Is there a war game like hearts of iron that isn't set in modern era. I'm really worn out on WW2 shit.
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>>340033152
Pretty good, managed to survive long enough to stop being tribal and reconquered.
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>>340033774
March of the Eagles
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Hello.
I played CK2 years ago and didn't understand the UI at all so I quickly quit and forgot about it.
Recently I played Stellaris and found the tutorial system very good at teaching me how to play.
Can I take my knowledge of Stellaris back to CK2 and will I know how to play now?
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>>340033681
That's the meme really, Sweden is in a shitty situation. Personal union = 0 legitimacy, and their only way of expansion is through Russia, the HRE or the commonwealth. And their army gets stomped by Prussia and Poland after 100 years.

The only thing good about Sweden is that event which reduces autonomy faster.
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>>340030926
>OUT-FUCKING-SKILLED
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>>340033793
I own this shit and touched it for maybe 20 minutes

is it actually good?

just looks like it has the lack of complexity in combat as EUIV with very limited options. Is it actually capable of deep warfare like HOI?
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>>340027971
they're amazing games. the best way to buy them is to wait for the sales. its pretty common for paradox to put everything up for -75% so you can grab everything on the cheap
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>>340033802
No. It's totally different. Yotube is your best shot for learning how to play.
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>>340033152
It's going pretty well. My quest for aesthetic borders is nearly over in Europe, I think.
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>you will never have a few more years to completely annex Korea.
Feels ayyuthaya man
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>>340033792
>Bohemia and Prussia4
Holy shit
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>>340034024
Same game converted into V2.
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>>340034005
What happened here? Is that even still EU4?
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>>340034084
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>>340027971
Buy original, pirate DLCs.
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>>340034084
>all that blobhemian owned land suddenly conquered in less than 20 years
fuck off cheater
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>>340034226
Are you mentally deficient?
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>>340033225
This mouth breathing 'tismo needs to calm the fuck down
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>>340034158
Alternate universes are fun.
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>>340034330
>United States of Central America
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>>340033357
>Hitler knew that Britain and France had guaranteed Poland.
And when did they do that? Was it because they,along with the entire world except Germany ,went through an economic crisis of unprecedented proportions? Where they threatened by the German economic miracle of the 30s? Was this the exact fucking scenario after they went to war with AH in WW1? They guaranteed the integrity of an unlawfully formed country that went on with ethnic cleansing of the neigbourly nation in their territory and expected the aforementioned neighbour to stand idle.
>The Germans absolutely knew the consequences of war with Poland, they were not stabbed in the back by Britain.
And the British knew the consequences of imposing monstrous rates of reparations and stripping away territory from the most dangerous pretendent to the piedestal of hegemonical power of Europe and yet they did it.
>Britain had received an assurance from Germany that they would not invade Poland, and yet they still went ahead and did it.
And this is the amount of ignorance we are plauged with. You are refering to the Munich Agreement of 1938 and Germans made no such promise for Poland. You are pulling stuff out of your ass.
>You're simply resorting to ad hominem because in reality you know the Germans broke every agreement they had made with the Allies
Falsehoods. Those agreements that you are talking about were broken because they were stifleing the advance of Germany and were imposed on them purely out of fear from the colonial power on its death bed. Point me out to the agreements you are talking about.
>who were much more against war in Europe than Hitler was
Again,a lie. Hitler was a Clausewitzian when it came to war, but he did not want to shed british blood. If you read Mein Kampf or anything from that period you would know that. Post evidence for your claim that they were much more against war.

I also like the fact that you called out my ad hominem ,but did not respond to a single point I made
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>>340027971
It's a really good game. No other game let's me play as such a wide array of cultures all over the world. I've clocked over 2k hours into it. But buy it on sale. It's horrendously expensive when it's not.
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>>340034445
You think that's bad?
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>>340028529
saved :^)
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>>340034108
Meiou & Taxes mod. Has a way earlier start date and new formable what-if nations like the Anglo-French Union and the Kingdom of Lower Saxony.

Basically I played France, united France, rekt England and formed the Anglo-French Union, conquered lots of Italy then ended up with a released Italy as my vassal. Scotland was my ally from day one, they're now in a union with me. I allied Frisia and they ended up forming the United Provinces of the Netherlands. Same with Ireland except I allied some random clan.

The whole time I guaranteed the Romans so they actually had a chance, and thanks to earlier start date they actually fucked the Ottomans up. Grossbyzantiums ensued with my support.

Later, the Pope called a crusade against the Mamluks for some reason, so I removed kebab and established the Kingdom of Jerusalem and released Egypt as a vassal state. Kept Suez for myself.

Then I set out to fix the mess of the >H>R>E and maneuvered things so a lot of the little states were absorbed by larger ones and it was condensed into a few large kingdoms. The Imperial Authority is 0 and falling as you can tell.

Also after Italy was formed they kicked the Pope out of Rome and as Papal Controller, I ended up giving them some random border province out of pity, lel.

As for North Africa, I destroyed them with the help of Spain because I was fed up with the stupid pirate raid dialogs popping up every two seconds.
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>>340034509
Damn, son
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>>340032580
You wehraboos are cancer and need to fucking hang yourself.
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>>340034509
I've been there
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2ylGAwBnk
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>>340034521
Nice. Those new colours are neat as well, grey Prussia is a real eyesore. Is this mod just good for France or for others as well?
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>>340027971
>Is EU4 any good?
Yes, but only with all the DLCs.
>if it is worth $99
No, pirate it or wait for a sale.
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>>340030191
>play a historically neutral/democratic country
>can't declare a war or join a faction because lolneutrality vs threat
>can't influence threat or even party influence in a significant way in the given amount of time, the war ends before Nationalist Spain is even able to ask for membership in the Axis

>>340031181
>alt history
see above
>supply
In a USA/Japan campaign pacific islands receive almost no supplies, despite you having naval suprmeacy in the Pacific. During the winter war, neither the Soviets nor the Finns receive proper supply if they step a few provinces north of Helsinki. Fighint in Africa is a clusterfuck in general.

>air and naval combat
Naval battles are over too quickly and usually just mean you or your enemy lose their entire fleet in a day early on in the war. Trying to fight off invasions is basically playing whack-a-mole with your armies (just like fighting partisans, by the way). It's a similar deal with the air units. The one thing HoI4 clearly has going for it over its predecessors is abstracting air commands into assigning planes to air bases/regions, instead of having them as separate air squadron units.

>DH is still the best HoI game
It's by no means perfect, a lot of the problems in HoI3 are problems DH had that weren't fixed in the new release (naval and air combat, shitty automatization etc.). That said it had a more sensible supply system, a more to-the-point army composition system (OoB is just complexity for complexity's sake and adds nothing to the game), a better way to conduct research and more ways to influence your country's course via events.
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>>340034585
Look closer.
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>>340034489
>Hitler did not want war
oh my fucking god you're retarded.
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What could go wrong?
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>>340030926
What the fuck happened?!
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>ck2 can predict the future
Woah.
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Any tips on playing uncivilised nations in vicky 2? I got smashed as egypt.
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>>340034260
are you?
In the EU 3 screen Blobhemia is all the way into russia
In the Vicky 2 screen Blobhemia doesn't exist along with Manchu
fucking faggot
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>>340030926
Ferrara were bros
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>>340032580
>They had the claim on the entire eastern strip of Poland (including Danzig) which was taken from them in the Versailles
Oh wehraboos, please kill yourself.

Danzig was taken already by Prussia (now Germany). This isn't a videogame, they didn't have a magical claim on it, they had taken it from someone else before they lost it. Can you guess who?
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>>340034947
>eu3 screen 1611
>victoria2 screen 1859
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>>340034947
not him but eu3 pic is early 1600s, prussia had 100+ years to blob before the vicky 2 conversion
you are a dumb nigger
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>>340034489
>it is with a heavy heart that I declare war on absolutely fucking everybody in the world with my super advanced war machine that I've been setting up for the past few years
>t. Adolf Hitler
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>>340034770
>Hitler did not want war
I never claimed that you absolute mongoloid. I only said that he did not want war with Britain and all his actions testified to that fact ( from Dunkirk to his appeals to peace )

>oh my fucking god you're retarded.
I am not the retard here you fag. You got shut down and now you are butthurt. You are a little bitch Nigel.
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Don't know man but restoring the eastern roman empire and "culturally converting" anatolia gives me a boner every time.
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>>340034660
It's a really great mod that enhances basically every nation. It incorporates other mods that focus on certain nations or regions and it really gives some nations a lot of flavor.

I found that China was massively improved, the game starts in the 14th century at the outset of the Red Turban Rebellion, the fall of the Yuan Dynasty and the ascendance of Ming. It's really fun to play in a China that's basically in the middle of a warring states period, and it's coded so that provinces dynamically change from one owner to another as they're taken, too.

Japan also has unique flavor and events. Byzantium gets lots of unique flavor and Orthodox religion in general is vastly improved. M&T incorporates Dei Gratia, a really great religion mod that simulates religious minorities, adds flavor events, stuff like schisms and anti-popes, jews and Zoroastrians, etc.

Other areas like Italy feel better, too. They also made it so you can westernize without falling behind - if you have high enough development/education you can have your own renaissance and lose the tech penalty. And yeah, Education is a thing. Imo it's the best mod available for EU4, there's just so much stuff it adds.
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>>340035041
he literaly didn't provide any proof that borders changed in 200 years wich is not unlikely
fuck off faggots
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>>340028529
Did Phil Collins write a song about you?
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>>340035124
>Britain plays defender of Peace and tries to appease Germany by giving parts of Poland
>Germany invades Poland regardless
>"w-w-w-why are you attacking us, Britain?"

>You are a little bitch Nigel
wha
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>>340034489
The German 'miracle' of the 30's was mostly a myth, fueled by deficit spending and expropriation. The Nazi economy was running a significant deficit throughout, and was only kept running by a finite input supply of other people's stuff.
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>>340035243
>>Britain plays defender of Peace and tries to appease Germany by giving parts of Poland
You fucking what mate?
When did this fucking happen
Poland did not give a fucking inch of territory to Germany before the war
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>>340033050
>Hitler DID NOT WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH BRITAIN
literally the dumbest fucking fagmove in the history of anything to go to war aganst Poland with your friends when you know Britain tried to avoid it happening

like holy shit you have to be retarded to be surprised by this

read a fucking book that isn't about the Rothchild bank
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>>340035054

He didn't declare war on everybody though, Britain declared on them "for Poland" then left it to a fate worse than Hitler
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>>340035176
You can't make this up
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Literally every grand strategy thread leads to shut-in wehraboos pissing their diapers over history. Every time. /gsg/ is cancer.
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>>340035517
t.retard
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>>340035553
t. wehraboo /gsg/ fagula
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>>340035360
he probably thinks Czechia = Poland
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>>340035006
>Oh wehraboos, please kill yourself.
I know that historical facts are bothering you,but the truth does not budge.

>Danzig was taken already by Prussia (now Germany)
You outed yourself as an absolute retard by saying this. It was not, it was declared a free city ,but was integrated into Poland.

>This isn't a videogame, they didn't have a magical claim on it, they had taken it from someone else before they lost it. Can you guess who?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_City_of_Danzig
Germans had a claim for it because it was theirs since the 16th century and they treated it as a special city to incorporate the best of Prussia and Poland-Lithuania. Also,look up the demographics of the town through history and see who has a stronger claim to it. How about you stop posting now ?
>>340035054
>this whole post
This is American edcation- the post.
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>>340035583
You literaly have no fucking idea what goes on /gsg/ and what its culture is
try to make this less embarassing to yourself just stop
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>>340035654
>>/gsg/
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>haven't played any grand strategy in months
>got bored of CK2, EU4 and Vic 2 ages ago
>didn't get into HoI because I don't care enough about military strategy
>see this thread
>suddenly want to play EU4 again
>also want to play CK2 and Vic 2 again
fuck, I don't know which one I want to play first

I was only really getting into vic 2 for the first time before, and it was annoying because smaller nations didn't seem to be able to do anything (I played as Californian Republic and as Ireland, and if I tried to build armies, navies or factories they were just put on hold indefinitely) but larger nations were too boring

CK2 was pretty fun before, but I remember there being a really shitty update that made me stop playing. Have they undone the coalition stuff yet? If not, which version of the game do I have to go back to if I want my game to be how it was just before that was added?
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>>340028807
Why do the map look like that
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>>340035708
I should clarify, by "don't care enough about military strategy", I mean to the precise depth that HoI simulates, I like the EU kind of military stuff (although RNG is a bitch)
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>>340027971
UI is shit and AI is shit
Overall still a good game, but definitely not worth $99
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>>340028189
>its a commonwealth forms right next to you episode
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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Anyone get good mods for Vic2? Aside from the liqour meme?
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>>340035947
>not pushing polands shit in right from the beginning
They don't deserve to exist
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>>340030984
im from hamburg, good thing is: we had a lot of space to build the city from ground up, we got nice and wide streets almost everywhere now

i been to london years ago and noticed how fucking tight and slim streets there are, i guess they were made with carriages in mind
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>>340035243
>Britain plays defender of Peace
This is the delusion of britbongs.
>Germany by giving parts of Poland
>Poland
Poland=Sudeti in your thick dumb skull.
This is why nobody takes you seriously.
>>340035376
>literally the dumbest fucking fagmove in the history of anything to go to war aganst Poland with your friends when you know Britain tried to avoid it happening

>like holy shit you have to be retarded to be surprised by this

>read a fucking book that isn't about the Rothchild bank

This has to be bait. You can look all this shit up in conventional historiography.

>>340035342
But that is absolutely false my main man. The Reichsmark and exclusion from the bartering system gave Germany a special place in the econopolitical sense. Investments from USA were fueling Germany more than ever and Hitler policy of public labour was almost identical to FDR New Deal. Germany went from 40% unemployment rate to less than 1% in a decade whilst the entire country was flourishing. If this does not constitute for a miracle I do not know what does. Autarky that Germany achieved was not matched by any country in the history of Mankind. Also, I would like you to cite sources for your claims.
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>>340035708
You can easily get a mod that just removes the coalition stuff. Otherwise the patch that brought it was pretty good. Or you can wait for the next patch where they give you a feature to turn coalitions off along with a lot of other things. You can decide things like when the black death appears etc.
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>>340033662
Fuck. I want to play that mess of a game.
When is the series not going to look like total shit bros?
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It's worth $10.
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>>340036190
You should be happy for the reeperbahn
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>>340033662
It's cracked, anon
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>the retard whokeeps defending Hitler
I love this meme, it's so dank. Can't you mention the mass killings that the poles were doing as well? xD
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>>340038492
Good bump
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>>340038492
>not being a Naziaboo
>in 2016
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>>340031105
>>340031195
>>340033819
>>340034876
>>340034976
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>>340035708
2.4.5, I think. Look into the betas and it's the most recent one, as they leave copy of the game before each major update and Conclave is the most recent
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No.
t. GSG Pro

Play EU3 instead or play it with mods like MEIOU.
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>>340034927
Hol up, isn't that the CoA of Turnu? Did you make a kingdom and an empire out of one wallachian county?
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>>340041160
>MEIOU
Is that one good?
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>>340041571
Depends on what you think is good. It removes dependency on mana (Can no longer use it to improve counties, they now improve on their own depending on policies), and it adds and expands on a lot of features, like centralization and decentralization (A continuous process instead of Press Button Receive Centralization), adds a lot more options a la EU3, retools and expands on Religion (Nations can also now convert on their own without the Reformation event). And many other things. The only problem I have with it is that it makes the game run slowly even on powerful hardware, but that can be fixed in the options. (Picking the "Speed" setting).
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>>340041571
Any option to make it run faster? Looks like my toaster can't handle it.
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