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>Patch 3.3 Hoping to get a house, anon? Ready for more welfare
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>Patch 3.3

Hoping to get a house, anon?

Ready for more welfare gear?

Any hopes that the new treasure hunting will make it a bit less braindead?
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>>340010913
I'm just excited for the new 24-man raid.
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>>340010976

I hope they up the difficulty a bit. It was fun in the crystal tower series to see shit groups die to the eye. It's almost impossible for groups to die these days.
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>>340010913
I have a friend who unironically thinks he can afford a house with 400k.

I've told him that it isn't possible and told him to check the prices of some vacant houses, and he doesn't want to believe me. What do I do to get him to listen?
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>>340011228
Right? Void Ark was a cool raid but pretty fucking easy. Hope it's more of a challenge.

>>340011262
There are players selling small houses for 400k on my server, Famfrit.
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>>340011262

Show him the 3.3 patchnotes that say the cheapest is 3 million. The CHEAPEST.
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>>340011506

Unless they're handing it over along with a FC, you'd still have to buy the land which is currently 4m at the cheapest I believe.
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Housing is stupid. If you unsub for like 3 months it is wiped. So fuck that.

This game isn't worth playing all year.
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>>340011781

2 months. It's relinquished in 45 days.

Optimal solution would be to make housing available for everyone, but since they decided on making it a limited resource it's only fair to demolish the houses of people who aren't playing.
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I'm just hoping to get in some early clears on Nidhogg's Rage so I don't have to meddle with shitters 2 months later.
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Should I resub? Can't even remember my ilevel, think it was in the 190s.
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Does anyone have an idea of what sort of DPS I should be hitting as a SCH for expert runs? I do my DoTs and my banes but most of the time I average around 750 dps. I'm iLevel 202 if that makes a big difference.
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>It's a wipe 15+ times on Thordan EX in DF because one of the tanks dies every time to HBD episode

Don't you wish you could just clone yourself and play every role? It's not that hard. I can't believe people walk into EXTREME content expecting to faceroll it. You are 100% required to watch a video guide or read a written one.
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>>340012823
If you're doing more than the tank and as much as an average low-tier DPS, you're doing it right.
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>>340012845
>in DF

There's your problem.
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>>340012879

That's good to hear, although I think the monk was underperforming a bit.
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>>340012845
>mfw I joined Ultima Weapon Ballad without knowing shit about it
>mfw first time playing a tank in a mmo
>mfw I didn't know I had to tank swap
>mfw wipe like 5 times before I notice
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>>340011506
>tfw the midbosses have more mechanics than Echidna

I hope Ozma has mechanics
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>>340013206
kill yourself
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>>340013262
forgot something
>mfw I still got commendation
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What's an easy DPS class to play besides monk?
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>>340013262
tell him more
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>>340013369
Summoner.
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>Leveling ninja
>Having fun
>Look up the rest of their abilities
>Realize there's basically no way for ninjas to fit all their skills + cross class skills on two cross hotbars
Ability bloat is real. Also the class gets really complicated once you hit 45/46 and get Huton/Suiton.
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>>340013453
no class can fit all their shit on 2 hotbars
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i just want samurais (so 3.5 hopefully).
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>>340013453
Switch to DRG then.
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>>340013524
A cross hotbar is 16 spots. 32 is enough for most classes. I have MNK, WAR, PLD and DRK at 60 and manage with two.
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>>340013567
Next xpac.

It will be a tank.
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>>340013453
>using cross hotbar

though I'm not much better by putting my hotbars to the numberpad
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>>340013524

I can fit all my WHM shit on 2 hotbars.
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>>340013567
They outright said they'd only release new jobs with expansions as they 'take too many resources' to just drop in the middle of patches. Meaning they said Ninja's timing was a mistake.
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How much DPS should a Monk be doing at level 60 against a single target?
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>>340013967

What iLevel?
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>>340014075
210
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>>340014136

1300-1400 would probably be around what you want to be hitting, then. Depending on the target. You can certainly push higher but you're at least pulling your weight at that point.
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>>340014316
thanks, I'm doing about 1400 so that's good.
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>>340014481
>>340014316
>>340014136
>>340013967

Funny thing you guys might like to know. I was testing some stuff out on a training dummy at my monk's 221 ilvl and just doing bootshine->true strike->snap punch without any positionals or buffs or OGCD, I was doing 1100 DPS over 4 minutes.

So if you see a monk out there doing less than 1k, know that they are the shittiest of the shitters.
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>>340013524
NIN does have a bit more shit that other classes, to be fair
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>>340010913
Too poor for a house. Just hit i205 today so I can clear out the new story right away.

Bring on the Weeping Welfare gear.
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finally got around to doing alex normal today after finally breaking i200, resubbed about two weeks ago now

>tfw no friends who play
>tfw no static and no people in fc who could form one
>tfw not even that good at the game anyway
>tfw parsing myself and consistently doing average or poorly
>tfw all I do these days is log in, do beast tribes, and maybe a roulette or two
>tfw don't really want to play anymore
>tfw I resubbed in the first place after an 8 month break because 3.3 was dropping anyway so I might as well stay
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>>340016364
This is exactly me but I'd also throw in doing hunts and farming primal mounts.
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>tfw your static owns like 6 houses throughout a single ward of Goblet and we all just hang out in the middle bit and act like we own the place all the time
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>>340016505
Fuck, you really are me. I do hunts if I see them, and the only think I check PF for anymore is pony farms.

I cleared bisex and ravex so long ago that I don't really want to jump into a farm and fuck people up
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>>340016364

>Just started parsing
>Doing great for WHM, SCH, SMN, MNK, DRG
>barely pulling over 1100 for BLM

I don't know what it is but I'm just fucking shit at BLM.
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CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR HUNTS TO BE RELEVANT AGAIN AND A RANKS TO GET PULLED IN 20 SECONDS FROM CALL
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>>340017084

What's going to make them relevant?
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>>340017142
If the pattern is anything like 2.x they'll be adding a secondary hunt mark log for centurio. They could just not be mentioning it until full patch notes. Or the pattern could be broken and we're not getting unstained centurio mark logs.
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>>340016818
Me too, but I main BLM. I'm leveling other classes just to try them out, but I think I'm just shit overall. I have trouble even getting to 1100 for most encounters, but I'm just i201 so I dunno if that's equipment or what.

>try sch
>get intimidated by fairy management expectations at endgame, continually fuck up and cast cleric adlos on accident
>get it to 60 anyway

>try drg
>get it to 50 for literally no fucking reason because I was bored, cba to get it to 60

>try mch
>level it up with beast tribes, sort of enjoy it, but have the sneaking suspicion I'm bad at it
>half the reason I kept with it was that sweet fucking ironworks gun animation

>try war
>bad at keeping aggro, don't care enough to stay that involved for everything, let alone rememorize later raids with tank-specific mechanics
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>>340017084
Hunts being relevant again would be pretty cool. Right now Centurio seals are literally only used for those couple of minions you can get

Not looking forward to the whole "people never waiting/pulling immediately" thing, but I think it's fun to shout it out and tons and tons of people all come together.
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Is this still p2p? Would try if it was b2p
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>>340017617
SCH isn't as complicated as you think.

Selene is in most cases OK to leave on sic unless you really need to use her party esuna. Leaving on sic, she'll use Fey Wind when it's ready every time.

Eos is best used on obey, but most party compositions won't call for Eos unless you're double SCH or solo healing.

Just leave your fairy alone to do her shit most of the time. using heal macros is more a hassle than not anyways.
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>>340017709
>Please hold hunt, we have a non-flyer

Also centurio seals don't really have a use yeah. You can also use them to get doman pieces and level desynth for what that's worth. Books can also be turned in for esoteric upgrade pieces if you're slowly gearing up alt classes or something. For 3.2 I only bothered with heavensward hunts to avoid doing experts.
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>>340017709
Centurio seals are also good for quickly gearing new lvl 60s with the old Law tome gear.

But I mostly spend my seals on Aetheryte tickets. Each week I use the daily/weekly HW hunt bills to do the "100 kills" companion challenge log for my chocobo, and that nets around enough seals to buy 99 aetheryte tickets.
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>>340017870
You get thirty days free with purchase, but it's still sub-based. 13$/month.

In any case, the trial's getting extended. When you could previously only hit level 20, you can now hit 35, which is more than halfway through the 2.0 storyline and gives you a better idea of what the game actually plays like, as you get access to real jobs.
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>>340017617
Scholars are really easy actually. I have a 60 SCH and honestly the only pet management you do is using Fey Wind every minute and that's it. Otherwise it's simply healing and shielding when the tank's about to get hit by a tankbuster.

War's a joke until level 35+ or so. They're ability to keep hate and be tanky is non-existant, because they are one of the most level and item dependent jobs in the game. It gets much better though.
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>>340013245

>Pop Quiz on Geometry
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>>340018024
Yeah I've tried the trial a long time ago, I like the game but I feel very conflicted to pay $13 a month for it.
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>>340018124
>you can only deal damage to Ozma if your average item level is an even number
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>>340017940
>Books can also be turned in for esoteric upgrade pieces if you're slowly gearing up alt classes or something.
Don't do this though. You need 6 mark logs (i.e. 3000 seals) to upgrade ONE piece of eso gear. or 4 mark logs (2000 seals) for 1 accessory. Just farm Void Ark if you want i210 stuff, the Mhachi Farthing drops every time and you can upgrade weapons with it too.
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>>340018124

>Doing brute justice
>get that halo over the head with 2 balls on it
>Run over to someone
>Some retard runs in at the last second

Can people literally not count?
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>>340017874
>>340018028
Everyone I know who actually does current Savage content has told me that pet management is important, but maybe I'll stick with SCH a bit more and see how it goes.

My WAR's at level 41, and I'm losing hate on some mobs in DV pulls. Trying to keep an eye on it, and doing alright for the most part, but I'm starting to think it's me, and not the game. Maybe I'll keep going.

Frankly, I just think it's severe tired gamer syndrome.

>>340018172
If it's any consolation, I've gotten much more than my money's worth of playtime out of it. You could easily hit 50 within the 30 days you get, and start doing the 2.x story stuff. If you like it enough, you can resub/buy HW.
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>>340018413
Yeah I guess so, I got some money comin up soon. Might try it out, thanks for the input. Threads here are much better compared to /vg/
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>>340018252
Yeah there's no reason to farm hunts with that goal in mind, you just run out of things to spend centurio seals on though.
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>>340012624
Nope, it's just a catch-up/filler patch. It's all shit you'll finish in a week and then you'll just AFK in Idyllshire like always.
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>>340018413
Pet management is important but it's not nearly as complex as people like to think. Positioning the fairy doesn't do anything to her healing AI. It's essentially just a couple extra cooldowns you have to mind.

Then again some people believe MCH is hard to play whereas in reality it's the most braindead job of the bunch.
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>>340018496
>/xivg/
That general is a running joke because nobody actually fucking talks about the game
It's the entire reason why we have these threads in the first place
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>>340018413
>Everyone I know who actually does current Savage content has told me that pet management is important

It really, really isn't.

Selene has 3 skills. a party esuna, a silence, and a party haste.

There are pros and cons to both being on sic and obey.

Sic
Pros: Don't have to pay attention to Fey wind upkeep. The silence on sic is instant and works against shit people wouldn't think to silence. Party esuna keeps you from having to worry about some status effects yourself
Cons: Party Esuna goes off on the first debuff that applies to someone, even if that Debuff can't be cleansed.

Obey
Pros: Party Esuna can be used at your own discretion for cleansing raid wide debuffs that can actually be dispelled. if 2 SCHs are on the team they can weave their fey winds and have 0 downtime on the buff.
cons: Manual usage of the silence is kind of shit. SCH shouldn't be expected to silence anyways. It can also be easy to forget to fey wind if you aren't paying attention.

The only other thing is fairy position but that's optional and mostly to keep her in a spot where her healing can reach people regardless of where they are (For the robot phase of A8 for example, I put selene on one side of the map so her heals reach the offtank)
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>>340018640
Assuming you already have all the minions, the wyvern mount, ishgardian barding and don't want the doman gear, just buy aetheryte tickets and never pay to teleport again.
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>>340018684

I've never even done any pet management at all and I've done everything except savage content.
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Can you solo Twitania yet? Seems like that's the only way I'll get to do Coil. Never see any groups.
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>level SMN up to 42
>leveling slows down to a crawl

Does questing ever get fun? It feels like most quests have me go talk to an npc in a random town and then go talk to -another- npc in a town much father away. Like what the hell is this crap.
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>>340019114
I made a group to clear the whole Coil unsynced just a couple of days ago and we did it, the absolute madmen. Try peak times or a better server
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The only reason I am considering resubbing is only becuase of more moogle content, becuase I love those things.
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>>340019167
Questing NEVER gets fun. All the fun is in instances.
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>>340019167
padding around dungeons and other instances

and delays between Hildibrand cutscenes
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>>340019281
Dungeons are alright. Maybe I just dislike Summoner and having to constantly reapply dots. Well, I did plan on playing Scholar anyways, but still.
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>>340019223
>tfw it's the same type of questing as Churning Mists
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>>340019468

I think it's confirmed to be crafting.

So much, much worse.
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>>340019468
I actually didn't mind them at all. I am hoping for more moogles that can actually do shit, like the few that actually took on dragons, and not be lazy assholes like the majority of mist moogles.
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>>340019562
A beast tribe with crafting quests?
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>>340019167
Questing is pretty much always like that unfortunately. Only the main scenario quests and are interesting and it's solely because of the story told at the beginning/end of quests, not what you actually do in them.

Hildibrand is pretty good as well but he doesn't open up until 50 so its kind of a moot point since story is the sole reason to do them.
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>>340010913
Wait, is OP just fucking around, or is that seriously all there is to the new patch?
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>>340019167
No. Questing is never fun, unless it's the MSQ or leads to an instance or hildibrand.

Do levequests and your hunting log while you wait in those delicious DPS queues.

Or just gear up your SCH. You have been doing the SCH questline, right?

>>340019223
Moogle beast tribe quests are crafting quests.
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>>340019617

Ixali did it, so sure.
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>>340019632
maybe you could look it up
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>>340019636
>Moogle beast tribe quests are crafting quests.
Well, I guess i ain't resubbing then. fuck this gay earth
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Are the Vanu Vanu and Gnath armor sets from Beast Tribe Quests or cash shop cancer?
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>>340019636
I was planning on doing that once I reached 50...but wait, wouldn't SCH be the same level as my Arcanist?
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>>340019632
Probably all that the OP is looking forward to. The patch notes are out if you look it up but very few people care about every single thing.
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I just want my dating sim already so I can romance Alphinaud, Aymeric and Estinien.

Fuck Lucia, I would cuck the shit out of her if given the chance.
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>>340019863
I think they unlock from getting a certain rank. Probably Sworn.

>>340019884
Yes, it would. I'm suggesting you do it now because healer dungeon queues are an order of magnitude faster than DPS queues.
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>>340019863
Reputation vendor
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>>340019745

why would you ever resub for the sole purpose of beast tribe quests under any circumstance

if you resub it should be in hopes that palace of the dead is good
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I just got in to the game and am level 37. Just got to the titan questline. Once finals are over I'm gonna be playing a ton, never have invested a ton of time in an mmo before. Kinda excited to do end game content later on.
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>>340019863
Have to be max rep with the respective beast tribe.

Pretty sure you can either buy with gil or daily tokens.
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>>340020025
Because like I said, I REALLY like moogles.

That said I actually do like the game and have plenty of stuff to actually do. I just haven't subbed in a while becuase I've been playing other games more right now.
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>>340020164
>Just got to the titan questline.
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Are there any costume pieces for the other beast tribes?

I want to rape some catsluts as a beast tribe member but gnath and vanu are shit.
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>>340018413
There was a guy I knew who used to always bitch at me about how important micromanaging fairies was.

Then I started actually playing with him in Alex Savage and realized that he just left Selene on sic 99% of the time.

Its an elitist meme that you shouldn't take seriously. You should learn how to micromanage for the few situations where its necessary, but that will come in time.
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>>340019863
You have to be Bloodsworn to buy.
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>>340019914
>estinien
it's time to let go anon
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>>340020339
not him but I forgot, what was so bad about the titan questline? I totally don't remember it
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>>340020423
you have to do a bunch of pointless fetch quests before you can actually fight him
something about a banquet or some shit
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Hoping to get a mansion this patch (Balmung). Hopefully they won't be all taken within 1 minute of servers online.
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>>340020423
>what was so bad about the titan questline?
Hours and hours of fetch quests.
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>>340020339
I'm fucking hype to fight him. Please tell me you get to fight Leviathan as well later on? Or Bahamut
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>>340020538
Yes.

To both.
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>>340020529

I'm gonna try to buy 3 mansions. How many are there per district?
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>>340020538
You'll fight Leviathan as part of the story. Bahamut is hardcore raid only and hardly anyone does it nowadays.

It's still arguably the hardest content in the game.
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>>340020627
>>340020649
Nice. Do you get to just fight all the primals or eidolons or aeons or whatever the fuck proper name is
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>>340020649
>It's still arguably the hardest content in the game.
Density of mechanics is comparably less than modern hardcore raids (Sephirot EX is about the same difficulty as T13, just less lengthy) and unsynced everything except for T9 just collapses.
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>>340020649
pretty sure leviathan is optional
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>>340020761
Not all, they're not all in the game as of now. You get to fight quite a few. Especially some of the more popular ones.
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>>340020761
basically

the fucking knights of the round from FF7 are a boss
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>>340020785

You do it for the MSQ.
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>>340020643
That's the problem. In Balmung there are a lot of people like you, trying to get more than 1 mansion to resell. With subdistricts I think it's like 6 per ward.
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>9 months of subbing to get the behemoth mount

b-but it's so sexy
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>>340021046
>fucking references for the Twintania mount
>one MILLION MGP for Fenrir
you don't know the half of it, boyo
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>tfw BLM main
>this Mhach wanking

I'm having fun.
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>>340021046
I've never fought the Behemoth in Coerthas.
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Opinions on dark knight?

They made the most sense to me. Plus I actually like being much more involved in a party than just dishing damage or healing, now I'm actually looking at enemies.

Also in response to all of your friends "dying" as far as you knew, it would be pretty fair to be an edgy fighter
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>>340021171
>Fenrir flying in 3.3

Makes me want it more.
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>>340021171
1 mil MGP is pretty easy now with the gold saucer changes. You can easily earn 100k mgp per week just by doing the challenge log, gates, and mini cactpot.
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>>340021171
>mfw I've gotten like 200k mgp so far from the event while barely doing anything

If I gave more of a fuck, that 1 mil would be easy.
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>>340020897

>Reselling a mansion

No way. Too small a market for them. If I wanted to resell I'd grab up a bunch of small homes.
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>>340021257
it's no WAR, but it still competes with PLD for the main tank slot with the added benefit of not being completely useless in dungeons
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>>340021476
Alright then how is WAR any better
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>>340021587

Better self heals and larger DPS.
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>>340021587
DAMAGE
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>>340021469
I've gotten 220k just this week. My FC has also put up the +10% MGP company action so I get shit like this.

If you are autistic enough to grind chocobo racing, completing all the chocobo challenge races will net you about 450k MGP on its own. It will be even easier in 3.3 because they're reducing the time for breeding chocobos from 6 hours to 30 minutes. Racing chocobos at max level is also a good way to get MGP on its own because winning a race in the highest bracket is 1000mgp right there, and they only take a few minutes.

I already have Fenrir, Adamantoise, all the music, all the minions, all the hairstyles, all the purchasable TT cards (except Cloud), and currently have 920k saving up for the Cloud card. Not to mention I've sunk about 500-600k into gold card packs trying to get Zidane.

MGP is piss easy to get now.
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>>340021587
Storm's path and storm's eye for 10% reduction and enabling ninjas/the other tank
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>>340012823
I do a bit over 1k at i220, but I have a 210 weapon.

Make sure you're keeping shadowflare up, and swiftcasting it to drop right when and where the tank pulls to, and keep miasma 2 up on groups of 4 or more, and skip broil for blizzard 2 if there are 4+ as well.

No reason not to be auto attacking bosses and shit too.
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>>340022148

I keep shadowflare up. never use miasma 2 or blizzard 2, though. I should really slot that.
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>>340021896
>If you are autistic enough to grind chocobo racing, completing all the chocobo challenge races will net you about 450k MGP

How autistic are you talking? If it's not a huge investment I might get in on that. I have roughly 600k mgp and that would push me over to being able to buy Fenrir.
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>>340021476
>>340021667

> mfw being in second best DPS in Thordan Ex every time I've gone in this week
> As PLD

I mean I'm pleased to be hitting 1.1k, but you dont have to make me feel THAT good guys.
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>>340022358
that just means the DPS are underperforming
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>>340013442
>Hotbar bloat: the class
>Easy

SMN is fucking annoying to play. I wouldn't say it's hard, but it's obnoxious. MNK I find is a lot easier to play once you get into it.
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>>340022358
PLD does good single target damage though, it's their aoe that's non existent
if you're outdamaging the OTing WAR he's either complete shit or you're overgeared up the wazoo though
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>>340013453
>ability bloat
>the way the class was meant to be played at level 50
Level 50-60 adds like 3 skills because you get a bunch of skills you pretty much never have to use. You can't call it ability bloat when the job was exactly made to be played that way at level 60.

It is pretty complicated though.
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>>340022417

It's been a long while since I've met randoms that don't underperform.
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I stopped playing with the release of 2.2. I just couldn't be assed to grind more linear hallway dungeons for nothing but ilvl numbers

Is it worth coming back for 3.3? Are deep dungeons a new form of progression or is it just more pointless side stuff that won't go anywhere?
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Got the urge to play again, bought heavensward and l resubbed. Now I'm looking at an i110 blm with everything else level 1 except for a 15 archer, 22 cnj and 23 acn. Last main story quest finished was hest of the best, I think.

So basically, should I go leveling other classes or try and push blm through the story and get to ishgard?
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I'm going to be trying to get a medium house... on Balmung...
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>>340017874
2 SCH with Selene on Obey is the new double SCH meme meta so you get 100% Fey Wind uptime.
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>>340022462

Just the usual crit/det/str melds and my non-raid BIS (taking way too long to reform a static). So it's probably a bit of both.

Resisting the urge to meld Vs to 230 gear. It's so hard. RA crits for 4k now, I want to see how much higher it can go.
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>>340022570

Shouldn't be that hard considering every single person I know can't even afford a small.
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I need help guys.

I've just resubbed after 7 months away.

I'm ilevel 190ish and haven't done the 3.2 story yet.

What's the best way for me to catch up? Not necessarily before the patch hits, but I'm not sure what I should be doing at all.
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>>340022570

I really wanted to buy a large (cerb), but switching servers has a lot of my gil still tied up in items.

Really not happy about it. If I weren't so afraid of getting banned...and wasn't so cheap, I might consider RMT.
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>>340022682

i'm also on balmung looking to get a small. i'm not worried about the 100s of rp alts. i'm worried about the guys with 10 digits of gil buying up entire districts just to own them
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>>340022505
If you didn't like the gear treadmill, it hasn't changed.

The story's gotten better in HW, but it's still the same game. Doesn't sound like you'd enjoy it.

>>340022547
Keep going with BLM, you'll get mad xp doing the rest of the 2.x story quests.
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>>340022793
do the story?
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>>340022793
do story, get to ilvl 200 by buying + upgrading eso gear
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>>340022324
Miasma 2 is a total potency of 70 per target, so really you should be keeping it up all the time as long as there's 3+ targets, but I don't really bother unless it's 4+, and blizzard is about 200 potency on 4 targets, so if it's 4 or more then it beats broil, unless you have to run out of aoes too much and your dps gets fucked.
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>>340010913
>Hoping to get a house, anon?
I've already perfected my racing line to get to the plot I want.

>Logout as DRG next to the ferryman in one of the wards
>jump forward, 180 elusive jump and land on the aetheryte
>have stickers on my monitor showing exact where dialog boxes will pop up so I don't waste time aiming the cursor
>teleport and mount up
>hopefully get there first

Of course the login servers might crap out on me when the time comes, but that's life for you, all the preparation in the world won't prevent you from getting fucked over sometimes.
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>>340022682
I don't know, the population on Balmung is huge, and after they nerfed the housing prices across all servers, I imagine a shitton more people can afford them now. I don't think there will be a single plot left standing 20 minutes after the servers go back up, and that's generous.
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I'm looking forward to Nidhogg ex but I'm i188 so knowing my luck learning parties will have dried up before I can farm out the minimum iLv of 220.

Doesn't help seph parties are dead and i still haven't run Midas normal yet.
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>>340022342
After the patch? Maybe 20-30 hours or so, including the time you have to wait for breeding.

To complete every challenge you will probably need a pedigree 9 chocobo (the highest) which necessitates grinding up lower level chocobos to level 40, then retiring them and breeding them to improve their pedigree level. So you start out at pedigree 1, grind to level 40, breed, which gets you a pedigree 2. Repeat with the pedigree 2 to get pedigree 3, etc.
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> Shared crafting gear
> Vs from msq (aka retards selling them for cheap on mb cos lol I dont need this)
> Also Aquapolis
> New minions and Dreadwyrm replicas

Hope you're all ready for maximum jew-overdrive
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>>340023225
Dreadwyrm gear is shit though except for maybe the slutty caster pants.
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>>340022820
The guys with the 10 didgits need to switch characters around to buy, so you have plenty of time to snatch something.. if you log in during the first hour after the server goes live. After that it'll be a pretty sad business.

Also I am fairly certain it will be a lot easier to get a small home than medium or large, seeing there are so many more of those.
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>>340022494
There's no reason for them to have both Shadewalker and Smoke Bomb when they do basically the same thing. Dream within a Dream is also pretty much just another button to press on cooldown, doesn't actually add anything to the class.

Armour Crush also changes up their rotation slightly and gives you an attack you have to hit the flank for.
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>>340023286

Won't stop retards wanting em though!
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>>340022793
Biggest thing is to get started on unidentified items for relic. You need 20 of each for a total of 80.

Here's a concise guide and what things trade in for unidentified items.

http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-3-0-anima-relic-weapon-guide/2/
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>>340010913
Housing is my first objective, since SE dicks over FCs with that feature.

Want to deal with airships and FC crafting, seeing as you paid $40+ for an expansion? Too bad! Need a house!

Want more servants in your house? Too bad! Buy a bigger one!

Plots not available for upgrading or even purchasing? Too bad! Join an established Mega FC! Please look forward to those 300+ unsubbed players in your new FC~

Want to use Chocobo Stables? Too bad! Buy a house or join an established FC!

Want the ability for random people to submit applications to your FC? Too bad! Buy a house!

Want to garden? Too bad! Buy a house!

Want the ability to set a cheap teleport for your entire FC to have the ability to gather at a common place? Too bad! Buy a house to use mini-aetheryte, and ignore Rowena's sorcery!

It really bothers me to stop and consider how poorly implemented the FC features are in XIV, and how some vital features such as stables / airship & FC crafting / FC applications are locked behind a very limited resource, making it almost impossible for newer groups to step up and become more than glorified linkshells with logos. Even if they put in a public place that allows FCs to "rent" those facilities, or just flatout do like ye olde MMOs and have it cost ingame money to keep things going. Too many useful features are locked out behind housing.
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>>340023573
You can't submit an application to an FC if they don't have a house? That's news to me.
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>yfw Nidhogg weapons are just Dreadwyrm recolor
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>>340023648
Unless I'm mistaken, I have never seen it done without a house. It could be that people rather just talk to someone for an invite instead of going EVE on it, provided there is no static house to just run out to and apply at.

I'm on my third FC on a new server, and in the past, I have only had people actually apply by going to the house signboard and doing it there.
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is this game fun as someone who used to play wow
I need something to scratch that itch I get sometimes
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>>340023648
Because it's utter horseshit.
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>>340023921
Do you enjoy the series?
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>>340022794

Fuck even considering RMT

I can't go ten fucking minutes without getting spam on any server but Balmung because retards buy it and make the spam profitable
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>>340023921
half the playerbase are wowfugees so yeah, I guess it is
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>>340023573
It doesn't make sense that you can't just garden at an inn room with some flowerpots or something, or that there's no GC chocobo stables/airships.

Just make the FC versions better or some shit, but don't lock them all.
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>>340023921
90% of the playerbase is ex WoWfags so you'll feel at home.
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>>340023225
>aka retards selling them for cheap on mb
I started using the market board and focusing on gathering/crafting some time ago

Why are there SO

MANY

FUCKING

RETARDS

that just put up an item for the fucking VENDOR price

Oh yeah I don't need this let's put it on the market board for 6 GIL A PIECE WHEN YOU COULD BE ASKING LIKE A THOUSAND TIMES MORE
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>>340024078
I've never played a main series FF game and the only the only enix game i played was on the snes
am I a good candidate for this question

>>340024267
tite
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>>340024286
>People listing things for below vendor price
I'm offended I'm on the same realm as these people, god damn.
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>>340024302
FFXIV can be played without having played any other games in the series but the game is mostly fan service and heavily references other games in the series and it's very story heavy. Just don't make it obvious you're a WoWfag (eg: complaining about story, moaning about references you don't get, etc ) because you'll just be told to fuck off to WoW by other players.
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>>340024286
Or the retards that take vendor items and raise them like 5-10k gil.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
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>>340024425
good thing I didn't care about wow's story either so cool
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>>340024471
They're not retards if it works. It's worked since vanilla WoW.
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>BRD finally gets a full buff update
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>>340024593
song buffs are great
has anyone done the math to see if those damage buffs actually matter?
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>>340024229
Nearly two years later, they're finally working on addressing it all with apartments, but that's still $40 paywall to just have something akin to a FC room (which will have restricted gardening vases by that point in time, due to no cross-breeding)

Playing on a legacy server makes it neigh impossible to obtain housing to do any of these things, which makes me really desire that SE will someday fix things. I still rather pay a set amount of gil per month to have extra NPCs in my small cottage, to make up for the fact that I couldn't afford a medium or mansion to have +1 / +2 NPC slots.

>>340024286
The irony is that people don't seem to understand they can have their retainers do a direct sell at NPC prices, since listing an item has tax on it, resulting in base value being a loss for the lister. Considered going full Jita on it and just buying up the cheap and relisting at a higher price, but the same idiots will just undercut for all eternity.

>>340024471
That's fine, because people keep buying. If someone is too lazy to go to a vendor, they may as well pay the shipping fee.
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>>340024570
Yea but them selling it cheaper also works either. Not saying they're retarded because it works, I'm saying they're retarded because they honestly believe they are clever and not other player notices them doing this.
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I like this game, but it has some seriously fucking DUMB design choices. Like fucking basic shit and they fuck it up. For example you can only browse and buy from the trading post at the fucking trading post instead of every other game where you can buy from anywhere and just have to go there to collect. Then you've got all the shit tied to housing and housing is limited.
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>Doing expert dungeon
>DPS are shit. Pulling under 800 DPS each
>One of them is watching the cutscene at the final boss. Tank runs in regardless
>Other DPS stands outside and tells us 'You do realize that the other dps was in a video right...? so have fun'
>They get to watch as we take the boss down ourselves

Who even needs shitter DPS
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>>340025393
Oh, Kaiser Behemoth...
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I have 13 million. Can I get a decent house for that? If not I don't think I'm gonna bother resubbing.
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>>340011262
400k will get you a private chamber in your FC house provided you actually have one, but that's still moderately humorous.
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>>340025763

You can buy any small house with that. Mediums, no.
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>>340025763
You can get a small. 3 mil more and you could afford the cheapest medium, though you'd have none left over.
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>>340025853
How much is a medium?
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>>340014316
Reposting from last night
>have 221 MNK I play time to time
>have epiphany
>that using Tornado Kick whenever offGCD is a bad idea
>my subsequent runs and my GL stacks when
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>>340026125

Why would you ever think it's a good idea in the first place
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>>340026125
>>that using Tornado Kick whenever offGCD is a bad idea
Damn anon, you're a real genius.
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>buy a small house
>play around with it for a day decorating it
>looks pretty and comfy
>suddenly feel the pressure of needing to log in to keep it even though I just bought it
>have no friends to visit me or hang out in my house
>sell it for 2x what I paid for

If I ever get a house again it has to be a medium, the increased size+extra floor would allow me to better visualize ideas but I don't like the idea of not getting my own room if I'm not in an FC.
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>>340025920
>>340025975
Oh, welp. Guess I'll settle for small just to not be a homeless bum.
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>>340026125

>using Tornado Kick whenever offGCD
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>>340026193

They should really play around with the idea of greased lighting more, having it be a resource you obtain and could store somehow and then spend on big attacks could be pretty fun, even if it was some basic shit like whenever you gain a stack of GL when you are already at 3 you store it up to 3 so you could tornado kick and then use the ability to get your stacks back. Or just GL4+, whatever works.

Hell, monk job abilities are mostly shit and don't really change anything you do, the HW's one except for elixir are literally just shit to press when you can't even hit the boss.

Also, fists of water that makes positionals the front of the boss so soloing shit isn't complete ass when?
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Does the new welfare raid drop upgrade items?
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>>340026684
Likely if the pattern holds true. But not weapons.
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>>340025169
>tanking Antitower
>one DPS is doing subpar DPS, healer just doesn't DPS at all
>DPS is so low that we only beat ziggy stardust after 20 minutes and he did his rock-spawning phase like 5 or 6 times
>one time the rock died so slowly that there was no safe space left on the map
>get so fed up with this shitty healer that I go into DPS stance and stand in all aoe so he has something to heal
>on the final boss during the dolls phase, both DPS are put into a doll AND THE HEALER STILL DOESN'T USE ANY DAMAGE SPELLS
Fucking THIRTY MINUTES antitower run
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I logged in like 3 days ago for the first time in a while, the FC i was in died and had a large plot. Im the master of this FC now, pretty dope.
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>>340026814
This is why I do as many hunts as possible and beast tribes every day. To do the least amount of experts.
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What item level will all the new gear be
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>>340026920

230, Nidhogg weapons mostly 235 or 240.
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>>340026920
If it's the same as 3.1 (which it very likely will)
230 mhach left side
235 nidhogg weapon
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>>340026814
I may be a mediocre DPS but fuck's sake

Why not just leave

You're tank, you get instaqueues. You can play whenever the fuck you want.
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>>340026814

>Do antitower run with healer who doesn't DPS
>I just do autoattacks out of spite
>Other DPS starts slacking too
>We still got it done in 31 minutes
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>>340023548
man FUCK that step
>here, do 800 Alex runs
>oh and you also need something from every specialized crafting job
>basically fuck you
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>>340027013

Not him but sometimes I need to head off in a half hour so I'll deal with shit just to get it done.
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>>340027013
Might've been a better idea.

My anger subsided when I went into DPS stance and focused on standing in as much aoe as possible. Trying to take as much damage as possible is rather fun.
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>>340026684
Yes, it says so in the patch notes. 1 per week.
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>>340027148

>Notice healer isn't DPSing
>Go full-on fuck it and pull massive group in DPS stance to give them something to heal for

Put that slut to work.
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>>340027386
>pull massive groups
>in nuDungeons
I fucking hate how you're not allowed to pull anymore, Antitower is the worst in that aspect because the the shitty reinforcements that join halfway through half the packs. I guess they disliked everybody running Brayflox HM.
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>tfw have 12 million gil on moogle and havent played in 7 months

Did the inflation hit yet? Am i poor or rich at this moment?
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>>340027386
>not pulling massive groups whenever possible
>not making your healer sweat
>not berating them when they inevitably fail

seriously though
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>>340027584

12m is poor as dirt everywhere except Balmung, and even there you're only lower-middle class.
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>>340026193
>>340026194
>>340026252
I know, I felt pretty stupid for not realizing what I was doing wrong sooner. But at the same time I'm having an easier time with Stone, Sea, and Sky Dummies so I'm at least kind of happy I'm past that point.
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>>340027764
>tfw non-crafter/gatherer
>tfw 2mil life savings
>tfw spent 300K of it or so on equipment for classes I'm leveling
I just want someplace to live. Fuck me, right?
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>>340027563

The first third of antitower is the only big offender. The other two parts let you pull half their mobs in one go.
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>Brayflox
>New tank
>Doesn't have his job crystal
>I pull off him just with Combust/Aero
I got three commendations, but that was not worth it.
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>>340027886

Just get a sugardaddy.
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>>340027910
Brayflox is the first time the game requires you to have any idea what the fuck you're doing, especially if you're a tank.

I heard horror stories about 3.0 launch window Brayflox.

Shitter DRKs, shitter DRKs everywhere.
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>>340023826
Examine anyone, look at their fc, if they have applications open you should be able to apply from that window.
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>>340027910
>Stone Vigil
>WAR has GLD at 16
>uses Flash to pull, didn't like Overpower because of the TP cost, and he actually asked me to hold back doing damage as a Ninja
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>>340027584
I have about 14 mil and 3 more mil in allagan silver piece assets. You'll be fine.
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>>340027905
>aoe them
>once they're at like 30%, a bunch of full-health mobs join
What a fun and interesting mechanic, right when most classes are out of TP!
>>340027910
>Brayflox some time ago
>new tank
>doesn't have his job crystal
>healer also doesn't have his job crystal
>tell both of them
>tank doesn't hold aggro
>doesn't hold aggro AT ALL
>no idea what he's doing, he can't even hold aggro on the only target he's attacking
>start tanking with my Ninja
>healer is taking aggro like crazy trying to keep our tank alive
>we wipe after a couple of packs
>we all resurrect
>tank already ran off to aggro some new pack even though our healer has no mana
>so we wipe again
>this time the other DPS and I wait for our healer's mana
>tank runs in by himself and dies
>we miraculously get to the first boss
>tank can't hold aggro at all so we wipe, it's a lost cause so we just kick him as he isn't responding to anything we say
>stay with the healer who was pretty nice and wait for a friend to tank for us
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>>340028249
Did the tank reply in that scenario? I've heard of leveling bots appearing in dungeons, and that Rambo mentality makes it seem like something was a bit off.
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>>340028110

>Brayflox as SCH
>PLD tank
>Flashes twice
>Loses aggro to healer DoTs
>Actually tells me to stop DPSing so much
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>>340028437
Nope, so it could've been a bot.
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>More camera angles
>Resident Evil 4 camera angle

This is the most exciting thing in the patch.
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>>340027910
>first time I do Brayflox
>with japanese people
>(Defiance)
>oh yeah, I just got that skill
>do dungeon with ease

>levelling second class, a mnk
>drk tank
>mfw

Not even saying I'm a great tank, in fact I've always thought was rather average, but when I started levelling other classes and saw other people tank, I got more confident in my tanking ability.
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>>340028443
>those emotes
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>>340013453
>BLM main
>thunder fire fire fire flare ice ice repeat while praying that no AOEs appear on you
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>>340028679

The only reason I didn't tell them to go fuck themselves is we were nearly done with the damn dungeon and I didn't want to get votekicked by the faggots.

I also didn't lower my DPS, so whatever.
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If I hated literally every single 2.0 job (it's why I quit - none of then were fun to play), is there a chance I would like any of the 3.0 jobs?
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I can't into macros and I feel retarded. Even setting up a simple provoke macro doesn't go right for me.

Whenever I tank swap, I just run to where the current MT is and jump up and down till he gets the idea.
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>doing Amdapor Hard
>our healer is named "Party Biatch"
>doesn't move on the first boss so the Nero Squarma is completely over the boss and me
>next time just run up to her to place the cone over her position
>friend DPS starts doing the same to me because we're laughing about it on voice chat
When I played DPS I got annoyed by shitty tanks, but after mainly tanking I've gotten ridiculously annoyed by shitty healers and have gained much more appreciation for DPS
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>>340028821
Understandable.

Can't stand people with cutesy anime bullshit emotes, no matter how well they preform though. Remove miqo'te.
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>>340026214
>I don't like the idea of not getting my own room if I'm not in an FC
I always thought this was weird too, I inherited an FC so I use it as my personal house and got used to having an extra private room.

I put my bedroom in there since it makes sense, and I have no idea where I'm going to put it when I buy a personal house next tuesday.
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>>340026125
>>340026193
To be fair this was the ideal thing to do in 3.0 previews.

Tornado kick was a whopping 600 potency so it was a DPS gain to blow your GL the second it came off cooldown.
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>>340027910
>Brayflox during HW launch week.
>Tank that was losing agro to day one MCH players and my shitty AST dps.
>Ask if he read up on his skills to see if he figured out how to tank.
>"Oh im trying to play more as a dps then a tank. I dont like tanking much."

The other DPS called for a votekick asap and after a decent tank joined up and we finished i took a week to let the shitstorm die down before going back to AST.
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>>340029046

And it's a good thing they changed it or it would have turned MNK's playstyle into absolute putrid garbage for a minor DPS increase.
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>>340027886
Just level a gatherer man, less work than going full retard with crafters and still earns you a decent livable income.

I earn about a million a week just casually mining and I'm on JP so that shit goes a looooong way.
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>>340028915
depends on why and which ones exactly did you hate.
Some got just QoL changes, some got completely new playstyle. There's also 3 new jobs.
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>>340028929
>people who have le funny texts when resurrecting people or during their countdown timers
>people with multi-line cat emotes
Makes me want to fucking kill myself
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What is the best Light Party makeup?
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>>340029431
competent players
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>>340027764
>lower middle class
Just like in real life. L-livin the dream!
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>>340022342
extremely fucking autistic. and you need a good stock of gil (or be willing to throw away MGP) to train the fuckers

i got 300k mgp this week working 50 hours (retail + memorial day)

if i was neet again i'd have fenrir AND a cloud strife card
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>>340029510
You don't need to train them at all, you'll level up either way and their stats have no bearing on their offspring. All training does is make it easier to win (which does in turn make it faster to level, but not by that much).

Training is only really a good idea with the chocobo you intend to keep.
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