Got EOU1 on sale. What should my team be? I was leaning for more of a general utility layout, with either a landshark or a ronin plus an alchemist doing the general DPS, with the requisite protector and another unit running general support to keep everyone in fighting form, plus one other unit doing buffs or debuffs, but I'm open to more adventurous and experimental builds.
le millenom girl
>>340008563
I used the story mode party, but I'd strongly, strongly suggest more than one support, and at least two that can learn good bind spells/moves.
Just use whatever you want and abuse Grimoire stones to cover the rest.
>DPS
>turn based game
>>340009930
>DPT
Happy now autist?
>>340009930
Fine, DPT/damager if you want to be proper about it.
>>340008882
Well, yeah, I was planning for a bunch of supports. But all of them sound so appealing. I was thinking Troubadour for its versatility and to cover healing if I don't field a medic.
I played the game for like 5 minutes. Do I have to make a map inn every dungeon? Is it required?
>>340011379
Well unless you like getting lost, yes.
>>340008563
>DPS
Go back to lol.
le millenom girl
>>340011379
It's not required at all. It's just a really good idea.
>>340008563
>Landsknecht is good damage, pretty standard
>Protector is 100% mandatory, not having Elemental Wall Lv. 5< means death in endgame
>Survivalist gives good skills for material gathering and grimoire passing, okay damage
>Medic gives cheap healing and revival, as well as good unbinding, so pretty neat
>Dark Hunter is one of only two binders, while also having some of the best DPT in the game with Viper early on and Ecstasy later (assuming Whip, why would you go Sword DH)
>Alchemist is pretty vital, best source of Elemental/Non-Physical damage, and Return Formula is cheap Warp Wire
>Troubadour kind of stinks early on, but is super valuable late game thanks to its damage buffs and status-cure dances; if you're willing to put in the time to train one up, go for it, but otherwise go Medic
>Ronin is other source of Elemental damage, and has stupid good physical damage; requires set-up, but can be worth it
>Hexer is fucking broken as shit with Stoning Curse and Evil Eye, and Sapping/Frailty Curses are valuable as fuck
>lolHighlander/Gunner
So the simple and standard team would be
>Landsknecht/Survivalist/Ronin
>Protector
>Dark Hunter/Hexer
>Alchemist
>Medic/Troubadour
But almost anything is possible if you know what you're doing.
>>340011379
Not mapping means
>easy as fuck to get lost
>no idea where shortcuts are
>no idea where certain quest locations are
>no Floor jump
But if none of those seem like a problem to you, go ahead
>>340010773
>>340011130
>DPT
That's dumb. You're all dumb.
>>340008563
EOU a strange beast. I played the other games but I had to learn new annoying shit for this one.
Things I learned the hard way
Completing story mode lets you carry over the unique classes/character progress to Classic mode. That's how you get gunner/highlander.
There's options to take leveled characters and turn them into a different class. The best thing this does is that the character will retain the stat growth rate of its original class. E.G. An Alchemist reclassed to Dark Hunter will produce a Dark Hunter who gains stats like an Alchemist. Potentially useful if you can figure out which class benefits the most.
Like most Etrian games, binds are incredibly powerful. Plus you need slaves to get those sweet conditional drops.
Troubadour's healing is passive unlike the medic which heals for free but does little else. healing with a troubador can suck a little. Troub's dont learn a revive skill so you gotta grimoire it or run with someone who can, like a survivalist. Sadly the troubador doesn't work too well with other classes who buff themselves. For example.
A character in EOU can only have three buffs at a time. E.G. A ronin buffs itself with Upper Stance. Your dancer buffs with Warrior Song, then your protector buffs with Defender. Your Dancer then buffs with Echoing Rondo for healing. Your ronin will have their Upper Stance buff pushed off, thus it cannot use its stance skills. Which fucking sucks.
Troubadors have a skill called Holy Gift which is fucking broken. It stacks with itself so if you have 5 people with grimoires of holy gift you will have so much fucking exp it's not even funny.
Analysis is fuckign BROKEN on an alchemist. Seriously. Analysis + Warrior Song on some poor fuck's weakness is like, triple the damage. I've got more but I dunno if you wanna hear it. Im just bitching cause i'm like 60% through and my ronin is looking to get replaced :*(
Smuf alch best alch
I want to get into Etrian Odyssey, which game should I play first?
Also Monster Hunter, should I wait for X to start playing with everyone?
>>340012310
whichever one looks the most interesting to you and yes
>>340012310
4 is the best starting point
3 is the best experience (but is unbalanced as fuck)
Untold if you want it to hold your hand and literally draw the walls on your map for you you goddamn fucking sissy holy shit.
>>340012038
It took me so fucking long to learn that you can Floor Jump to any staircase just by selecting it. I was teleporting level to level, which takes for ever and honestly made me question my sanity.
>>340012310
For EO, start with EO4
It has a simple class system with subclassing, smaller dungeons to ease you in, and a demo from which progress can be transferred so you can test it out
From there, move on to the Untolds and then 3. Play EO1/2 if you feel like you can handle it.
>>340012586
Please do not actually play EO1
It's broken as fuck and U1 fixes all the horrible bugs balance issues.
>>340012678
It wasn't that bad. The balance issues are only issues deep into postgame.
>>340012310
Same place you'd start with any other series, the very beginning.
>>340012678
>fixes broken bugs and balance issues
>replaces them with even better bugs and balance issues
All Hail Boost Glitch
>>340008747
>>340011682
explain this
>>340012786
Anon you could get immunize disgustingly quick and it negated the need for any defensive class outside of the final boss, and said final boss could kill you with maxed out elemental walls due to how said walls worked.
As someone who's played this series from the beginning, nobody should go through that shit blind, ever.
>>340012898
s4s meme, I'm as clueless as you are.
>>340012898
The Millennium Girl
>>340012786
>>340012942
>Immunize
>Element Walls stop working above Lv. 5
>Sword Dark Hunters are useless
>have to unlock Ronin and Hexers
>Royalant
>Iwaoropenelep's bullshit
>you can get blindsided by Primevil
Good times.
I bought EOU a while ago and neglected it for a long time, so when I got back to it I didn't remember anything from it, so I resetted my save, did I fuck up?
>>340013357
No, you should reset your purchase too and buy a better game.
>>340013357
Nah
Same thing happened to me, restarted last month
Now I'm 6 levels away from being ready to slap Yggdrasil Core's shit
I tried the demo for EOU and hated the story mode
>>340013357
No, you reset your save.
I just reset my EO3 not even an hour ago because I just wanted to start over again.
>>340013323
>Element Walls stop working above Lv. 5
Not true, instead of just nulling attacks they heal you, with each point increasing that heal, but the reason to stop there is to save points, plus some bosses have attacks that have a secondary ailment effect on them, so if you absorb the attack, you'll get hit by the ailment
>Sword Dark Hunters are useless
Binds were kinda shitty in first game, so it was the better build. Plus I think swords had more ATK than whips, making them better for when using bait(which was ridiculous).
>>have to unlock Ronin and Hexers
Yeah but they both weren't worth leveling
>Royalant
explain
>you can get blindsided by Primevil
That could happen with any FOE you walked into, and it was a pretty rare occurrence anyway.
>>340013645
Play the demo for IV instead and see if you like classic mode more then.
fricky le ricky
>>340008563
>What should my team be?
Just play the fucking game i figure it out by yourself
>>340013679
>plus some bosses have attacks that have a secondary ailment effect on them, so if you absorb the attack, you'll get hit by the ailment
So you mean they stop doing their job and blocking the attack, hence stop working? Because that's what I meant
>explain Royalant
endless swarm of FOEs pouring out of walls while you fight her, and will keep fighting and spawning even if she dies
>>340013774
Yeah the demo for IV was pretty fun but I'll get it when it's like $20
>>340013854
You mean dicky the Ricky and make her sticky while you give her bean a flicky so you can tricky the Ricky to sticky your dicky in her Ricky?
>>340008563
If you are playing Untold 1, then go for story mode first.
Because the new dungeon, gunner and highlander, most achivements, some skills and the best katana are story mode only.
They did fixed this in Untold 2
>>340014386
icky
>>340014897
Don't play Story mode first
>the new dungeon is shit, and you can only explore it rarely
>you can only get 1 Highlander/1 Gunner
>achievements and skills are pretty unimportant for first playthrough
>who gives a shit about katanas
>the Story is shit anyways
But if the above is all really that important to you, you can always do New Game+
>>340015219
>the new dungeon is shit
You are shit anon, the new dungeon has the best bosses in that game
>>340013357
Nah, I restarted EOU about 3 times now because I kept putting it down. I like it but I always end up ignoring it then wanting to change everything.
>>340015313
What a pity that you can't experiment with ways to defeat them since you're locked to the shitty Story mode party
>>340015219
Please, that50 turn time limitin the final area was hype as shit, especially when once you get to the boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6FPBwR58Q
>>340014897
I want to be that cake
>>340015313
>>340015565
Neither of these are good arguments to play Story mode first.
They're good arguments to play Story mode, but you can easily do it on New Game+.
>>340012678
Wait a second, Untold1 is the remake of EO1 on the DS?
If I play Untold is there really a reason to play EO1?
>>340008563
EOU Survivalists are kinda gimped.
>>340015818
Only if you want to know all the differences between the games, as the class balance is very different and some of the floors were drastically change. And if you're a turbo autist that hates story mode, you can ignore it but you will miss out on a 100%, it really bothers some people.
>>340015706
Why would you do story mode later if you can't use none of your classic character there?
It's just better to play story first then classic. More practical.
>>340015818
To prove you're a bad enough dude.
>>340015932
The story is just really generic and drags on, it's not being an autist if you find it annoying.
>>340015959
Why would you play Story mode first if you'd just lose access to Gladsheim, Kupala, dialogue for Story mode, etc.
It's far more practical to experience the game in its vanilla form before moving on to the changed game.
>>340016119
Because porting everything from story to classic make classic more interesting.
Because you can't port anything new into story from classic.
>>340016403
But for someone playing the series for the first time, playing Story first intentionally misrepresents the rest of the series by preventing one from creating their own team, and instead forcing upon them a bunch of stock anime characters, as well as their boring story.
Wouldn't someone playing a new series for the first time want more options starting out, and not less?
>>340016768
>intentionally misrepresents the rest of the series
Not anymore than 4, which people love to recommend as a first game
>tiny as fuck dungeons
>overworld
>easy
Do it for Ricky
