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Could this be the worst tutorial stage of all time?
>miss
>miss
>miss
>the ant hit you for 2 damage
>the ant hit you for 3 damage
>miss
>miss
>the ant hit you for 3 damage
>you are dead
>>339964757
stamina
you can run away senpai.
you did invest in agility right?
Git gud. Also, if you thought the Temple of Trials was hard...
Old games are garbage, what else is new?
>make a character unfit for combat
>WOOOOOW WHY I CANT FIGHT MY WAY THROUGH
>>339965138
>the game gives you a choice in your character build
>you pick some stuff that looks good to you
>NO YOU FUCKING RETARD YOU HAVE TO PICK THESE
Great game design
>>339964757
>punch ant
>step back 2 tiles
>punch ant
>step back 2 tiles
>punch ant
>step back 2 tiles
>punch ant
>step back 2 tiles
>punch ant
>ant dies
>>339965243
what did you pick?
Sounds more like classic Fallout combat in general. Be glad that the tutorial exposed this overhyped trash for you.
>>339964757
It was forced into the game by meddling executives. It does a pretty good job of teaching all the mechanics if you're not retarded, just like the village section afterwards.
Most people just run through, grab the explosive, blow the door, run through, never get hit by the traps even at 1 Perception 1 Endurance 0% Traps and then talk past the prick at the final door because everything in the tutorial has no challenge behind it, and can be toppled with any character build, even braindead ones.
The executives may have forced it in, but Black Isle ensured it wasn't going to be a problem.
>>339964757
shame that you couldn't talk sense into those fire ants (or whatever was the first enemy) and, basically, HAVE TO use some common sense with points allocation.
>>339965243
balance should be common sense when building a character in an RPG. obviously if you make one attribute great, then another attribute is going to greatly suffer.
It's my least favorite part of the game. The only healing item you get makes you miss more.
Still, rest of the game's fantastic. Interplay was full of fucking retards though and their treatment of Fallout displayed that.
>>339964757
Casual filter
>>339965978
Most people don't play melee in FO2. You can bait the scorpions and outrange them with a good agi stat instead, which you probably would not have done if you balanced your character.
>>339965243
>setting is a wasteland full of danger
>upset when said danger stomps all over you when you aren't prepped to fight or sneak around it
>>339964757
Fun fact:
The temple of trials was added in after the game was almost finished. F2 was actually supposed to start of with the village elder talking head.
Unless you manage to get less than 4AP you can walk past everything. Literally everything.
If you do do that you can sneak past everything with no sneak investment. We had a guy go bruiser with no agi investment beat the game with 2AP.
Its bad but you're retarded.
Every time I poop I cut my butthole and it bleeds.
Do I have hemorrhoids
>>339964757
The tutorial is not hard if you played F1 before.
Really, playing F2 before F1 is fucking retarded.
>>339966239
>We had a guy go bruiser with no agi investment beat the game with 2AP.
Bullshit. You can't run away from any encounters with 2 AP and you can't even punch back since it requires 3 AP.
>>339966416
He snuck past the ants and had the Enclave team kill horrigan for him.
You can do literally whatever the fuck you want if you arent retarded.
>>339964853
>>339966187
>muh 10 agility small guns speech lockpicks sniper
When will this meme die?
Just face it, Fallout 1 and 2 have not aged well at all. Their gameplay is slow and boring. It's almost entirely luck based, unless you want to grind for hours on end. The graphics are extremely low resolution and look putrid. Sure, some of it's storytelling might be alright, but gameplay is ultimately what makes a game good.
The Temple of Trials is shit along with a lot of stuff in Fallout 2. Basically the game is still great since it is exactly like Fallout 1, but it is terribly inconsistent in the quality of its contents.
>die in the temple over and over
>friend sees me failing
>"hey you know you can just hit and run right"
my life was never the same
>>339964757
>>339965243
>>339966275
Your suffering pleases me
>>339964757
This tutorial was really easy, and I'm really bad at CRPGs. Why is /v/ so shit at games?
>>339964757
>put literally any points into unarmed/melee and you clear the whole place with ease
>put literally any points into agi and you can kite the ants/scorps so they never hit you
>put literally any points into speech and you don't have to fight anything
You would have to not put anything into unarmed, melee, agility, or speech to fail at this dungeon. How shit are you at RPGs if you picked none of those?
2's first couple of hours (Arroyo, Klamath) are too hard and it's last couple of hours (once you get Enclave patrol loot) are way too easy. The time in between is gold though.
>>339964883
>open door
>imp shoots fireballs at me
>weapons literally can't damage him
>die
GG no Re
Daggerfall don't fuck around
>>339967479
>RPG
>you have to do this exact build to win
>that fucking flesh eating plant in the shaman's garden
>>339967740
>RPG
>you need a logical build that can keep you alive in a wasteland to win
Holy shit into the trash it goes
RPG games should be like fallout 4 where the stat points are for decoration and you can max them later anyway, right bro?
>>339967740
>RPG
>You have to be good at combat, talking, OR sneaking to win
Yes. You have to be good at at least one thing in an RPG.
>any fallouts before 3
don't fall for the meme
This shit is ezpz compared to fighting geckos with a pipe rifle.
>>339967969
>Your character is good with guns
What now, dumbass?
>>339964757
This part literally takes less than 5 minutes.
You don't even have to fight anything.
>>339964757
>getting killed by ants
Like how fucking bad could you be at the game for that to actually happen.
>>339964757
Literally run past the ants
Also unequip your weapon if you've got better unarmed than melee
>>339967740
>game with combat focus
>don't focus on combat
>cry on 4chan that it's too hard
>>339968141
>Literally run past the ants
That only works if you have more than 5 AP.
>>339964757
It actually teaches you the mechanics.
If I'm not mistaken this game was done when manuals were a thing and had shitload of hints and shit.
I agree that the game greets you with a kick in the balls though
>>339966658
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>339968052
None of my guns builds had any problems in the temple.
>>339967740
See
>>339966658
You literally can't fight anything with 2AP and you can still beat the game (which includes the temple).
Why are you so bad at video games? Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Are you still a child?
>>339967967
just admit it, 2's tutorial is broken as fuck. If it's your playthrough and you don't know of the combat system's little tricks yet, 6+ AG and high luck is 100% mandatory. Combat is much better once you made it to Klamath but the beginning is a mess.
>>339968214
They can't open doors.
>>339966658
Impressive.
Unless you were using Jet to get a shitload of AP. If that's the case, shameful.
>>339968240
Interplay forced them to put this into the game because Fallout had no tutorial (unless you count the rats). Funny that people in this thread are complaining that it was too difficult. It is absolute shit though and like all the tribal stuff ruins the atmosphere of the game.
>>339968259
That's because you looked up "how to build a character" on Google and went with the cookie cutter bullshit 10 agility build that literally everyone is using like the little retarded sheep you are
>>339968374
I didn't.
Nice projection though.
>>339968362
>ADDICT
>>339968374
Neither did I because I played the game before 3 even existed, ergo there were no shitty /v/ meme guides yet either. Why you bad at vidja?
>>339968568
I give him benefit of a doubt, Jet is not the only thing you can get addicted to.
And he wasn't addicted before the fight. Since there is only one cure for Jet, he wasn't using it frequently up to this point.
So... Which New Reno family?
For me it's Wright all the way.
Also I wiped out the Salvatores, killed some but not all Mordinos, and was forced to kill Bishop after he went berserk on me.
This is one of my favorite little details in the game btw, that the bosses have no qualms about setting their henchmen onto you when you run your mouth, mess up a job, or when they grow bored of the conversation.
>tfw I'm only just starting the first game
I still have the whole experience ahead of me. I'm excited. I already love the depth of customization and the atmosphere.
I got through it in like 5 minutes with barely getting hit.
Just fucking move away from them, they're slow dumbshit ants.
>>339968930
>2 AP
1 agility is 5 AP, Bruiser is -2 AP and the only condition in the game that lowers you AP further is Jet addiction with -1 AP
>>339966658
>Energy Weapons 2%
how is he still alive
>>339969005
The start is a bit of a boring slog until you get to the second town after the village but then the game picks up.
have fun bud.
>>339968214
Why would you not have 5AP?
Agility is by far the most important stat.
>>339967740
>RPG
>Diplomacy build
>Enemies are mindless robots/undead/whatever
>Boss is just some Hulk-giant that can't be reasoned with
>>339969086
>energy weapons
>good
I played Fallout 2 and loved every second of it, is it wise to play Fallout 1, or is it just a less polished 2 (because apparently it's the same graphics and gameplay) ?
>>339969101
Thank you, I will. I've been watching my mate play fallout 4 and I'm just about sick to death of Bethesda's fuckups.
>>339969005
Get ready for whacky 90s memes, poorly written main antagonist, shit that doesn't make any sense and irrelevant inter-city politics
Alright faggots I'm about to start Fallout 2 for the first time after finally fixing the graphical issues when I booted it up in my laptop, give me the builds you had the best time with.
>>339969294
Ignore anything with gifted and more than 7 agility
>>339969074
But he wasn't addicted in 1st screen.
It's true that there is something wrong with only 2 AP though.
>>339965469
This. Even non-combat builds can cheese through the early game combat via strategic movement. It just takes far longer.
>>339969236
The gameplay lacks some pretty significant quality of life things Fallout 2 has (allies are not green by default in Fallout 1 for example), and the companions are GARBAGE, but it has a much more focused narrative and better atmosphere. Its also way shorter.
>>339969294
Melee bloody mess anything.
High AG, high L
charisma 3-4 is enough, if you want more companions there's a perk for that (also mentats)
>>339969281
Sounds great, thanks. Anything is better than what Beth has done.
>>339969521
>Its also way shorter.
I heard the game has actually a deadline (you have x days to save your vault) (?) that's what kept me from it. I hate time limits especially in rpgs
>>339964757
unexpectedly long post:
you can get at least two levels in this temple just doing everything game offers to you.
you dont have to level up to unlock certain skill, you have them all right there, you are just not good enough with any of them at the start. I like this temple much more than, say, first couple of levels in arcanum of planescape.
People want everything from the start: best weapon, best armor and gear, yet when game gives them all posibilities to rey everything at the begining people are instatnly lost.
Shit, my first gf started playing pc games after i showed her this level. A GIRL with no rpg experince whatsoever saw the potential and loved it, why grown men cant do the same?
>>339969682
>I hate time limits especially in rpgs
Its not a thing. it was patched eons ago. the only way you're running out of time if you leave it running for 15 years.
>>339969682
The timelimit is completely irrelevant, you won't notice it.
I made a melee build in this game and got assraped for around 20 hours. I cleared the sqautter vault by going in attack out in attack out in attack out in attack out in attack out. That pretty much summed up half of my experience with the game until I luckily found an energy weapon which I had mastered in advance. You really do have to read up on what kind of character works. That wasn't so much the case with the first game but whatever.
>>339965243
>Make a speech character
>Convince the guy to just let me through
>>339970140
>go to the enclave base
>get power armour and power sledge
>steamroll though the game
>>339970140
Maybe you just suck dude. I made an unarmed character for my first playthrough and wiped the floor with everything.
>>339970317
Right but that's kind of cheating
>>339970317
Wow anon that sure sounds like a fun time.
>>339970140
Melee is suffering until you can get your hands on a ripper or power sledge
I think there's a cattle prod early on that makes things a lot easier, though.
Unarmed, on the other hand, is godlike the entire game. Your bare hands will do just fine against even power armor, and the weapons only make it better. Once you get a Power Fist everything's a cakewalk as long as you can keep it fed with power cells.
>>339966658
I recognize that dumbass build!
He was whining about the temple of trials too some time ago
Cant believe he still finished the game though
How mentally handicapped do you have to be to have trouble with temple of trials? I don't think I died once in there even when playing it as a 9 year old.
>>339970351
>>339970717
I really want to try unarmed now.
>>339965243
you need high sneak as well. and lock picking. little bit of survival to avoid random encounters
think the only guy I HAD to kill was the enclave president for his keycard
>>339971194
Do it, it's fun as hell.
Make sure to get Slayer as soon as it's available, it's hilariously good and makes every unarmed hit a critical hit. Combined with Better Criticals, you can take on Frank Horrigan in the nude.
>want to get back into fallout 2
>don't want to have to go through the bullshit of everything that comes before vault city
>>339971038
>>339966658
I honestly wanted to read the rest of it. He posted through his entire journey and I only caught the beginning
>>339972226
I HOPE YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING ANON
or
you can help me deal with some dirty shitskins ruining my real estate value
>>339972490
You missed out, Vault 15 was intense
>>339972678
Lynette was such a good character.
>>339972736
Well its hard to be there for every thread, and he would also just post it in random FO2 threads. Pretty sad.
>>339964883
>Forget to get the teleport spell before going dungeoneering
>End up in a dungeon with some ten magic doors that teleport you randomly
>Can't find my way out at all
>Give up after three levels and 5 hours later
>Create new character
>First thing I do after exiting the starter dungeon is getting Teleport
Fugg that game didn't fuck around when it came to dungeons.
>>339964757
Protip: Unequip the spear you are not a melee build. You get 49% hit chance instead of 19%
>>339972825
she always gets mad at me so I'm never able to do her quests. no idea what I'm doing wrong.
>>339973057
You didn't play the first Wizardry game. Floor 7 and 8 are complete death traps.
You have to know your exact location and the location where you want to teleport with the teleportation spell, or your entire party end up merged with the stone walls / fall several meters to their death if you offsoot the distance / teleport inside the castle's moat to drown
Resurrection spells can fail and turn your character into ashes, which makes revival impossible.
Fire breathing / Poison Breathing enemies wiping entire parties in the first turn
Enemies that lower your levels
etc
>whores commenting on your endurance
>tfw you've made a long-range character with shit HP pool
>>339964757
Fallout 4 had the block puzzle in Far Harbor.
New Vegas had Dead Money.
FO 2 had the Temple.
When you have a part of a game that players say "Never again." when finished the first two devs at least had the good sense to put that shit in a DLC.
Whoever made FO 2 led off with that shit.
Has to be one of the top twenty worst design decisions in VG history.
