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What the fuck were they thinking??
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What the fuck were they thinking??
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>>339964442
HEEYYY LET'S MAKE ALL THE DAMAGE OUTPUT UTTERLY WEAPON DPS-DEPENDANT THAT WILL WORK WELL
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>>339964442
was a decent game but shit in the long run
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One of the best turn-arounds an expansion has ever made to a bad game. It's actually pretty great now. Unfortunately at this point the game can only do so much, it needs an injection of new mechanics to keep it fresh or a new game entirely.
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>>339964671
wtf you are talking they literally changed most of the problems and added shit tons of other options.
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>>339964442
Daily reminder that this game is somehow 10x better on consoles than PC.
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>>339964956
because consoles never had Diablo 2
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>>339964939
I see this issue stated repeatedly about this game.

Apparently there's something other than the loot which is supposed to determine your character's damage in a loot game. I guess.

I've not seen any alternatives explained well enough for me to remember stating them now.
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>>339965193
>Apparently there's something other than the loot which is supposed to determine your character's damage in a loot game
You mean skills?
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>>339965675
I guess? But then -

>get "good loot"
>doesn't matter because other skill is better anyway

?

Now what?
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>>339965675
which deal damage based on your weapon,Re-re
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>>339965906
"good loot" is relative to your character, sometimes you get good shit that your build doesn't need and pass it to another character or keep it for a future one, or just sell it or trade it or some other shit.
>Diablo 3
>Trade
Good games have legendary items around which whole characters could be built, in Diablo 3 it doesn't happen because it just doesn't fucking matter, it only matters the fancy special effect in the description and the dps number, fuck specific damage bonuses that add up to other bonuses on your gear.
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>>339964442
>What the fuck were they thinking??
"Fuck that guy."
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>>339966072
>which deal damage based on your weapon
In Diablo 3 literally all of them do this, in other games some have their damage scaling with player level, some are dependent on the cumulative elemental damage bonus(es) of all your equipment pieces, regardless of DPS.
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>>339966506
>Good games have legendary items around which whole characters could be built, i

so, you never played Diablo 3? shit, you can literally stack whatever legendary effects you like with Legacy of Nightmares and do endgame-tier damage with nothing but thorns if you really want to
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>>339966506
>>339966801
OK, so that's "different", yes, but I'm still not quite getting what makes that overall concept "better".

If the damage of my weapon is irrelevant, why do I care about getting a good one or not? What is my motivation to continue playing at that point?
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>>339967075
You care about it based on how it can boost your other abilities. So the math is more complex, but it still adds other benefits or ends up out DPSing than getting a pure DPS weapon.
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>>339966801
>in other games they deal more dmg depending on stats on your gear

wow, so its just like D3.

Scaling with level is retarded because it means your damage will cap out really fast.
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>>339966506
>Good games have legendary items around which whole characters could be built

So just like D3 then?
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>>339967232
All right.

Furnace adds 50% to elites.
Gesture of Orpheus adds <20% to element.
Burning Axe of Ass Kiss adds <20% to Fire.
etc.

I mean, there's this kinds of stuff as well as flat damage boosts to given skills and such.

I don't know. I'm not trying to split hairs about this. I'm trying to understand. Thanks for the civil responses.
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>>339967075
You didn't get my point, your weapon dps shouldn't be irrelevant, but making ALL the damage in the game, besides thorns, based on it? Damage from skills, special effects on legendaries, basic attacks which are yet some other skills, all of it dependant by your weapon means you can have god tier gear but a average weapon and you throw your build in the garbage.
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>>339964939

They made the game even worse with the dependants on sets and making loot practically handed to the players.

There's no more build diversity and no loot hunt which leads to people playing seasons for a week or two and then quitting. My guild is nearly barren these days.

Vanilla D3 had it's problems by making things too hardcore but RoS D3 went the opposite direction and made the game completely casualized.
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>>339967557
>Furnace adds 50% to elites.
>Gesture of Orpheus adds <20% to element.
>Burning Axe of Ass Kiss adds <20% to Fire.
It will always bowl down to weapon DPS as long as it's the base of all damage, as those percentages scale it the fuck up the bigger is the weapon dps.
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>>339964442
Nothing, pretty graphix, that's it.
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>>339966506
nice falseflag hombre
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>>339967981
This fucking terrible taste.
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>>339967981
Accurate
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>>339967981
Does the expansion really un-fuck Diablo III that much?
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>>339967373
>So just like D3 then?

>Find legendary item
>"add x% weapon dps to skill"
>"Multiply all damage by y%"
>"add z% resistance to all damage"
Removing the single core item, if a such a thing exists in D3, would barely change fuck all.
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>>339968875

The expansion improved it, but Seasons and Greater Rifts really gave it some staying power, in my opinion.
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>>339964442
But isn't it actually good?

>>339964956
That's true though. Playing with a controller is vastly better than mouse and keyboard.
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>>339968992
You are aware that legendary items have unique traits now, right?
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HOW ABOUT
YOUR CHARACTER DEAL TRILLION OF DAMAGE
AND YOU WEAPON ADD 54321 DEXTERITY

THESE NUMBERS ARE COOL RIGHT? KIDS LOVE BIG NUMBERS!
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>>339964956
>b-but I can play with my dumb friends
Who gives a fuck? Better graphics will always be better than stupid coop for faggots like
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>>339970802
Console has no DRM, if you care about that sort of thing.
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>>339969436
uuuuuuggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh blizzard
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>>339971123
>implying Ashbringer isn't the sickest
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>>339967981
>has RoS
>no Hellfire
>no LoD

faggot
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My biggest beef with D3 is it's basically taken 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Why would they get rid of good features from the previous games?

Or why would they make stupid as shit changes like changing Dex from dodge to armor which is exactly what Str does already
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>>339967981
This is... I don't know what to say. Wait. I know.

Diablo II > Diablo I > Diablo III
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>>339969436
>account bound
FUCKING WEW LAD

I'll stick to path of exile
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>>339973641
>No trade
>no PvP
>online only is basically anti-piracy system and nothing else, as cheaters wouldn't be a problem at all
>maybe it's so to lighten up workload on hardware?
>console aren't always online and it runs 60fps
W E W
E
W
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>>339974471
>no trade
This has to be a joke. There's absolutely no way that is true.
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>>339970802
>Better graphics
Since when the fuck did anyone play Diablo for graphics?
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>>339974471
>cheaters wouldn't be a problem at all

Tell that to half of the console shitters who now beg for the PC DRM because they couldn't figure out why their Paragon was skyrocketing until after the fact.
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>>339964442
game is unplayable because they changed the cursor to babby's first "i can't see anything in this video game because my eyes are stupid" fuckhuge.
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>>339974885
Last I checked, it's limited to other players who were in your party at the time of drop and for up to an hour after the drop.

It doesn't matter in Diablo 3 anyway. Any time I give stuff away to people on the PS4 version, they stop playing.

People say they want free stuff and then complain that there's nothing else to do in the game when they get it.
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>>339967981

D2 counts under the most perfect games eevr created.

Its literally up there with Tetris.
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>>339975196
>he thinks a game is better than the one that came before it because they upgraded the graphics in a million year time span
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>>339975525
well, it needs better graphics though tbqh
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>>339973641
>Game is only alive because of a third party website

If poe trade went down poe would die overnight
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>>339975882
suck a dick fgt
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>>339976074
no u suk a dick u fukng and all other thing you F*** !!! and you no game !!! kitty ate it!!! now is no anymore cya in hell kiddo
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>>339964442
Just like your almost-quads, all they had to do was make 2 more.

But they fuck up, and instead killed Cain by literal butterflies, built game based on loot which never dropped so you had to use AH, and then added pets and wings and cosmetics instead of trade and PVP.

Forgettable game and instead return to D2:LoD for another 12 years.
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You literally can't make builds in d3. You just put on a set and use what ever spell that set increase by 5000%. If a spell doesn't have a set that supports it then that spell is shit

Fuck
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>>339976253
diablo 2 was like that too you newfag.
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>>339975525
fuck no. I love D2 but it's nowhere near perfect. Most people don't enjoy Act 2 or 3. That's 2/5ths of the game.

You're right about Tetris, though
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>>339976351
please don't talk about games you haven't played anon.
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>>339976517
same 2 you bich
i'm the best starcraft or warcraft ever had. i'm basically jesus. i'll fucking take all your ears nigg3r.
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>>339970802
The console versions aren't online only, have features that still aren't (and probably never will be) in the PC version and playing with a gamepad won't give you carpal tunnel syndrome nearly as quickly
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>>339976253
Also what I found interesting is that they raved about number crunching in WoW at the same time they released D3 with 10000% IAS and Armor On Gold Pickup now towering in trillions.

It's like they're not even same company, or work totally separated.
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