Killing neon covered house hold appliances with a katana.
This game's great
>>339941219
Do enemies still need eight rockets each to kill?
>>339941321
From what I've heard it rebalances everything, and adds the cyber katana.
Oh, and they apparently made it look worse or someshit.
>>339941321
Don't know 'cause I didn't play the redux yet, but the new edition says they worked on "pacing and rebalance of enemies", meaning if'ts probably faster to kill them.
>>339941219
Did they fix the missing particules and effects ? Because god damn, it made the redux version looks a lot worse than the vanilla one.
Can you upgrade the katana?
>>339941321
Nope, even the charging trash cans only take 2 rockets to kill
It's a vast improvement over the original if you ask me
>>339941446
>>339941765
>Game comes out on consoles
>Ends up being worse
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>339942059
if there's one thing i hate in traditional fps games it's shitty rocket launchers, one of the primary reasons q2 is the worst quake.not counting quake 4
>>339942059
>they finally understood that fighting bullet sponges ain't fun
noice
>http://archive.is/g0OJ0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOHNo2sa9-Y
They essentially downgraded it so it would run smoothly on consoles, and gave the same version, graphically inferior to the previous one, to PC users.
>>339942347
Well let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Shadow Warrior 2 looks like it still has bullet sponges.
I don't know how the ex-Painkiller guys are responsible for this, none of the enemies in Painkiller felt spone-y for me.
>>339942624
The best thing is they still claimed that it's got improved graphics and technology.
>>339942624
>>339942842
The worst part of all this is that they are going to pull the original version from Steam right away. Just like it happened with Metro.
Fucking jews.
>>339942842
Well, it does, since they changed a lot of effects from baked to dynamic. It's undoubtedly technically more advanced. They should have had quality settings for them though.
What this tells is that their implementation of AO and generic post-processing is very inefficient, so they had to tune everything down to make it not sluggish.
The original game ran fine on my HD5770, there was no need for a downgrade on PC for performance's sake.
>>339943098
>>339943189
This is a screenshot of the shitty quality Youtube video showcasing both side-by-side.
This isn't just 'less details and sharpening' or a 'less efficient AO implementation', it's a fucking downgrade.
>>339941219
I just want to play this game in VR.
I feel like it's a great game for VR
>>339942154
They said it is a vast improvement, only looks worse. Get cucked pc fag. If we cared that much about graphics we'd go watch a movie. Not spend 2k on a neetbox.
>>339941219
>FPS melee
>>339944484
I know this is bait, but you're aware that movies run at 24 fps on average?
>>339944819
I hate fps melee but I fucking love tps melee.
>>339943729
Whats up with all these upgrade/definitive versions looking like downgraded ass? This is the third ive seen on the past week. The other 2 being batman and dead island.
>>339945214
Garbage hardware these days.
>>339945214
$$$
Dead Island has always been nothing but a cash-grab. Dying Light is just so much better in every single aspect.
Wait, what's going on?
Mod? Expansion? New edition of the game so that I have to buy it all over again for one new weapon?
>>339943729
>Lighting is slightly worse
>Special effects are a lot better
>Less bloom
Looks fine to me.
>>339945693
The last one.
It's only $3 if you own the original, however.
>>339945693
>check Steam
>it's a separate game
Fuck.
But it's $3 despite being released yesterday, so that's... like, wow.
>>339945862
Owners of the original game get a permanent 85% discount, like what they did with Deus ex HR and it's remaster
>>339944878
Which is fine for the medium. Besides good framerate doesn't mean good graphics necessarily. Halo 5 was 60 fps looked like dog shit.>>339944878
>>339941219
is Redux worth 3 bucks if I already own Hard Reset?
>>339946252
Well, they apparently fixed the shitty pacing and bullet sponges original had so there.
>>339945858
>>339945862
It's also $3 if you own Shadow Warrior
>>339945961
>like what they did with Deus ex HR and it's remaster
But I'm guessing that discount wasn't permanent, considering I have no such discount despite owning the original game.
>>339942624
Seems like some essentially unnoticeable changes made them squeeze 2.5 more FPS out of it.
>>339946329
>>339943729
Jesus Christ. They can't keep getting away with this.
>>339946252
well it was an insta buy for me since I first played it on an ATI HD4600 and a 2009 anthlon. Having a 970 now and having a steady framerate and decent visuals, it's like playing the game again for the first time.
![Got-The-Rocket-Launcher-duke-nukem-10259087-640-480[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YkHZutQ.jpg "Got-The-Rocket-Launcher-duke-nukem-10259087-640-480[1].jpg")
>>339942289
Blow it out your ass
>>339943098
Well, that's lame, but whatever. People who wanted the original Hard Reset should have gotten it by now. It was in some Bundle Stars pack for a few dollars when I got it. And now I get a discount on the new version despite hardly paying shit for the original.
The amount of money deducted from the new version's price is several times greater than what I paid for the original game in the first place.
Graphics downgrade aside, what did they actually add
>>339942154
same with metro redux
>>339947889
cyber katanas, tweaked health/damage values, loading seems faster.
>>339945721
stay on facebook
>>339947889
From what I can tell after 1 minutes of research, they added a weapon (the sword pictured at the top of this thread), added a dash ability (similar to the one in the Shadow Warrior reboot), and made changes to the combat which supposedly fix the first game's "bullet sponge" problem. The latter two changes might actually drastically improve the game, depending on the specific details which I don't have.
>>339947889
Made it easier
>>339947889
Improvements to gameplay that were introduced in Shadow Warrior seem to have been added to this version of the game. You now have a dash move and most enemies don't feel like total bullet sponges anymore. Also they added a sword for some reason.
It's a shame about what they did to the graphics, but I can probably look past it if the game is more fun to play overall.
>>339945214
PC market has fucking boomed over the last few years, but the hardware the vast majority are gaming on has plateaued.
So it makes sense to do releases like this that sacrifice a little visual fidelity in pursuit of fucking astronomical improvements to optimization.
Oh and Batman was just shitty art direction handled by a literal Chinese 3D sweatshop, Dead Island is just a quick and dirty cash grab.
>>339948329
>most enemies don't feel like total bullet sponges anymore
Where does the challenge come from, then? The only enemies I felt had too much HP were the small ones, and that was partially because I used the AR, which is an absolute shit weapon.
>>339948265
You mean less tedious.
>>339946606
get off vent or ill have you bent
>>339941219
What the fuck is wrong with his fingers?
I still need to beat the original Hard Reset on Heroic mode. I was just barely able to beat the game on Insane mode without losing my mind, and Insane actually has checkpoints. Heroic is harder and has no checkpoints.
Has anyone ever beaten the game on Heroic? Any tips?
I'm still mad at this game after the bullshit it pulled last time I played it. I might just cheat through Heroic as a childish act of revenge.
>>339948557
Distortion effect from the rain I think.
You can see it more clearly on his wrist
>>339948645
Considering the amounts of time when I died due to exploding traps, getting stuck when moving etc. I just never bothered. Insane is good enough for me.
When or where do you get the katana? I haven't come across it yet, in fact I never even realised it was in the game
>you're moving like sanic now
>can actually dodge all enemy attacks and keep up to enemy speed
>>339948557
Low poly and low texture sharpness since hands weren't visible in the first release.
It's also raining and making a distortion effect.
>>339948735
>Considering the amounts of time when I died due to exploding traps, getting stuck when moving etc. I just never bothered. Insane is good enough for me.
Part of me feels the same way, but I still have the urge to finish this (incredibly flawed) game whenever I see that I only have one real achievement left to unlock. To be honest, I died so many times between checkpoints on Insane that I can't imagine ever getting through an entire level on Heroic without dying.
>>339948790
It's only in the "Redux" version of the game released yesterday. It's $3 if you have the original version, and there are some gameplay improvements. But the supposedly "enhanced" graphics are very clearly downgraded; there's no disagreement on this.
I liked SW but I just couldn't get into Hard reset. The movement was so godamn slow and Wild Hog can't into guns.
Also both those games have those ridiculous things in the environment that explode if you so much as sneeze on them and do massive damage to you while not feeling like proper explosions at all. I blew up all the shit in a room as soon as I entered it because of that. Those explosions killed me more than the actual enemies.
>>339949052
I have the redux version of the game...
>>339948454
I fuck man ass?
>>339949052
Well, best of luck to you if you actually try! I imagine not many people have that achievement legit on Steam.
>>339949063
>Also both those games have those ridiculous things in the environment that explode if you so much as sneeze on them and do massive damage to you while not feeling like proper explosions at all.
Haha, so true. It's even worse in SW than in HR because in SW you generally want to use the katana (unlike guns, it's actually pretty fun), and it has a huge range so if you accidentally swing you around, say, a car it's game over. Because cars explode if you touch one with the katana. That's what they do, yeah.
>>339949063
>I blew up all the shit in a room as soon as I entered it because of that. Those explosions killed me more than the actual enemies.
The exploding hazards in Hard Reset are dangerous, but the game is designed around the assumption that you'll use them on the enemies, so wasting them is a bad idea on higher difficulty levels. In some parts of the game, you could actually run out of ammunition and be completely fucked if you rely only on your guns.
That's why people say the enemies in the original Hard Reset are bullet sponges; technically, they are, but you're supposed to be using environmental hazards to do fucktons of damage to them.
>>339949202
Oh, sorry for assuming. If you're already playing Redux then I can't help you because I haven't played it yet. Google it, I guess?
>>339949329
>In some parts of the game, you could actually run out of ammunitio
You run out of that all the time, it regenerates to HALF so it's not a huge deal. Just switch between guns as the other one regenerates.
>>339949486
That's true. I kind of forgot about the regenerating ammo. The game sure is an asshole about enemy health and exploding objects though.
Graphical downgrade aside, while I do like the addition of the dash I wish it was tied to a stamina meter like in the original, either that or the range of the dash should be cut down.
Considering most enemies are either melee, short-ranged AoE or use homing attacks, having infinite dashes just trivializes the fuck out of the game and makes it piss easy even on the highest difficulty.
So you end up with having the original which is far too tedious at points versus having this new one which is babby tiers of easy, neither really strikes the middle ground on being satisfying.
>>339949665
The enemy HP isn't even that bad, like, somewhere around midgame I realized standard gorillas actually take only 3 direct rocket hits - the problem is that their hitboxes are wonky when they run, so missing is easy, and that splash from RL kind of sucks so you can't rely on it. That's why stasis field thingy on the energy gun is important.
>>339949807
So it is super-easy with all the changes. Kind of suspected that.
I saw somebody saying the graphics are worse in the Redux.
>>339949961
>stasis field thingy on the energy gun is important.
No kidding.
I got way too far into the game before learning the hard way that you fucking need that shit. Insane mode really forces you to make use of every stunning, freezing, slowing weapon. It's too bad that grenades and rockets basically become the only viable way of doing real damage, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ybbSnWE4I&ab_channel=Gggmanlives
>>339950442
>grenades and rockets basically become the only viable way of doing real damage
Eh, I don't think I agree. Railgun is very good, 3 rail shots are roughly equivalent to two rockets IIRC (tested on those humanoid-ish robots), but rail is hitscan. Smartgun is surprisingly strong, I got it as the last upgrade because I heard it was too OP and against some enemies it indeed feels OP.
My mistakes were: upgrading the AR instead of buying the shotgun - I have a thing for machineguns, and AR looks so cool when it overheats, but it does NO DAMAGE AT ALL. NO DAMAGE. Shogun either one-shots or at the very least throws away small swarmers, who killed me SO MUCH in the early game because I used AR and that energy grenade launcher against them (which does damage-over-time and they run too fast to be affected strongly by it). I also didn't have those gravity grenades until midgame, they make swarmers much more manageable too.
When it comes for disables, I didn't like the shotguns EMP too much - feels like its duration is too short. I think the energy flamethrower-ish gun has some too, Arc Blaster, but I mostly used Stasis field for gorillas and gravity grenade for small ones. With stuff like grenadiers and scorpions I just used cover/moved and went for direct damage (usually rockets and rail shots, depending on what ammo I had).
>>339950958
Mah sonny jim
Still waiting for him to get to Serious Sam 3
FYI, looks like buying Redux gets you the original too, for those of us that didn't get it the first time.
>>339951043
>Smartgun is surprisingly strong
Forgot about this one. I cheesed my way through a lot of fights with that.
>I didn't like the shotguns EMP too much - feels like its duration is too short
I agree. It barely gives you enough time to switch back to whatever weapon you were using before. Good for stopping a charging enemy though.
>>339943098
Steam still has original Metro 2033 and original Hard Reset available. The only game I can think of off the top of my head that had the original version delisted was Deus Ex Human Revolution.
>>339952150
You can't actually buy the original Metro anymore. I haven't checked Hard Reset.
>>339952209
>You can't actually buy the original Metro anymore.
I'm pretty sure you can.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/43110/
The non-Redux version of Metro: Last Light is gone, though. Or was it never there?
>>339952368
>I'm pretty sure you can.
Check it out from the Steam client itself. It has no price or buy option.
And LL non-redux was also pulled when Redux came out.
>>339952368
>>339952209
non-redux LL is basically the same so that's fine. Redux butchered 2033 though.the thing that pisses my autism off the most is artyom's old watch being swapped for the digital one. Not just the shittier binary stealth indicator but because the new watch was a symbol of him moving up in the world and getting ahead from all the shit he went through to get the bunker
>>339952468
That's weird. I'm seeing an "add to cart" button here. It's for purchasing the game as a gift, though, since I already own it.
>>339952468
I bought original 2033 when both reduxes were on sale last year. They didn't promote it but they took my monies. maybe they pulled it since.
In unrelated news, based slavs
>>339952717
Now THAT'S costumer service.
And a great way to prove your stance on DRM free.
>>339952717
>pic
Wow, that's pretty nice.
I already used my Steam copies of The Witcher 1 and 2 to get "backup" copies on GOG. What else is eligible?
>>339948049
>>339948183
>>339948329
So basically some Shadow Warrior inspiration
>>339948265
You mean more tolerable
>>339948645
What does heroic mode do? I think I gave up at the final boss of the DLC because it felt like total bullshit on insane mode.
>>339942624
>That fucking gun sway in Redux
why
>>339954698
adjustable
>>339950958
Speaking of that guy, any more channels similar to him?
>>339952876
you could just go there and figure it out for yourself.
Does it still suck? Is it still a boring as hell Serious Sam clone with copy pasted robot swarms?
>>339955271
>Serious Sam clone
I wish. It's Painkiller clone.
>>339955271
I don't know about you, but my friends and I loved the game when it came out, we beat it like 3 or 4 times.
>>339955403
painkiller had interesting weapons
>>339955271
>Serious Sam clone
>>339955403
>Painkiller clone
It's neither. I've played all of them and they're all very different. The original Hard Reset is a bit closer to Serious Sam than to Painkiller, though. Painkiller is all about moving fast (via stupid "bunny hopping") to out-maneuver enemies. In both Serious Sam and the original Hard Reset, movement is much more restricted. It sounds like this is changed in the Redux version, though.
>>339952710
I have no Buy button either. Maybe you're using an extension that's displaying the buy button by accident? If you try to add it cart does Steam comply?
>>339956629
I don't use any extensions, and I'm able to put it in my cart. (I've actually added both versions to my cart in the attached image just to make it clear that I'm not mistaking the original version for the Redux version.) I won't go any farther than this because I don't actually want to buy the game, but everything seems to work so far.
Maybe it's a regional issue (USA here), or maybe you're just experiencing a bug...
>>339956998
>mistaking the original version for the Redux version
...or, rather, vice versa.
>>339942624
>wowitsfuckingnothing.mpeg
>>339956998
Pretty weird, I guess they just removed it from some regions.
>>339946606
i mean i hate terrible rocket launchers, if the game has an awesome rl the rest of it is most likely good as well. so ye like duke3d, great rocket launcher.
>>339957097
It's nothing like Quake.
>>339957097
Quake should have the word "Bad" placed before it.
Would I like this game if I liked the new Doom?
I don't want to play around with ridiculous bullet sponges though. Some enemies in Doom could be a little spongey, but if you were using the right weapon combos you could blow right through them.
I like the feeling of not having to stop to focus on one enemy for 10 seconds.
>>339958151
I don't know D44M, but I feel that given your comments you wouldn't like this, at least the original version. There are many "tank" enemies that need to be focused down while you also mow down swarms of little ones.
Well, I've played original Hard Reset and I'm playing this one now on hard, I've just finished the first two levels. It's a huge improvement over the previous one, in my opinion. Movement doesn't feel like ass, there's a dodge move and you can strafe while sprinting (which you couldn't originally). This means dodging gorillas is actually viable now. Smaller enemies seem to have less HP. I can't say about enemy placement but overall it seems like a way better game now. I can actually have fun with it without getting pissed off now.
>>339957754
>>339960476
It's nothing like Q2 either. Q2: fast protag, slow monsters, powerful guns. HR: slow protag, fast monsters, weak guns.
>>339941219
I have the game set at max and FXAA off and it still looks like vaseline smeared all over my screen. What the fuck.
So is the redux version worth it if I never touched the original but own it?thanks steam sales
>>339961062
You sure it's not the rain effects?
>>339958151
I think Hard Reset and Doom feel rather similar.
You just pick the right weapon for the job out of arsenal and blow them away while not being killed yourself.
>>339961160
It's hard to say since you haven't played the original.
I loved the original though and have beaten it several times.
There are gameplay tweaks compared to the base game that most people say are for the better.
Graphics aren't quite as vibrant and colorful though.
Have yet to play this though, even though my download finished.
i want a cyberpunk game to play :(
>>339948454
BALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLS
>>339941446
Did they at least fix the damage sponge enemies? The game was tedious and boring until I got to the rail gun.
