Fallout 2
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WTF, you can't even side with the enclave?
All you get is:
>Republicans are part of the problem xD
-as the only dialogue available against the vice president
Remind me why /v/ thinks this is better than Fallout 1?
The Enclave was right. Humanity can't rebuild as long as mutation run rampant.
>>339935695
t. Frank Horrigan
>>339935393
You missed the point.
>>339935986
you missed the point of the first game then, it is meant to be a role playing game. What if, in fallout 2, my character didn't like the village or agreed with the enclave? Player choice was a bigger factor in Fallout 1.
>>339935393
Fallout as a whole is garbage
Up your standards, fgt
>>339936969
recommend me an open world role playing game where i can be who i want to be
>>339937285
Outside
>>339936969
Nice double 69 bro
>>339937397
>implying you get to decide starting stats for outside
>implying you get to change starting stats for outside
>implying outside has fun gameplay, feet start to hurt after an hour of playing is not enjoyable
>implying outside isn't just a shit ton of grinding for fuck all reward unless you got a lucky starting roll
>implying the visuals have any form of art direction, too much realism is a bad thing
>>339937727
>doesn't like to grind or build yourself to what you want
>wants a role-playing game anyway
>>339937727
>he doesn't train his charisma
>he doesn't lift to fix his strength
>he doesn't read books to raise that abysmal intelligence
>implying walking is all you can do outside
>realism is suddenly bad
With you on grinding aspects though. Not to mention
>No tutorials to tell you not to fuck the first few level points up
>tfw dumped all my level up points on video games instead of sports or instruments
Vault City #1
Praise First Citizen Lynette
Ghouls, Mutants, Enclave shitters and New Cuck Republic need to die
>>339936821
joining The Master is treated as a game over so I don't know what the fuck you want
Why not just let yourself get killed in the temple?
>>339935393
you cant join because they dont want you.
Die, mutie.
>>339935393
you cant because you are what they are trying to "cure"
a mutie
and Tbh the enclave would have been correct in killing everyone in the wasteland if they had enough living vault dwellers left to make sure we wouldn't end up inbred in 10-15 generations
>>339938116
>200 years after bombs fall new structures are built and some places resemble pre-war societies
>Fallout 3 and onward everything is a dilapidated piece of shit you'd expect to find in modern day Brazil or Africa
why
>>339938116
kek
as of New Vegas, NCR already steamrolled through those fucks
>>339935393
You can't join since your parents and their parents have been living in the wasteland. Therefore, the Enclave will consider you a mutant no matter what you do. The only chance you can join the Enclave is if they come to your Vault while you're still residing there.
Of course, the alternate is to join the motherfucking NCR
>>339938384
It was a legitimate ending to the game.
>>339938679
>in fallout 4 all you can build is shitty scrap wood/metal shacks
>cant recreate shady sands
>>339938689
no they joined the NCR there was a quest to help them join the NCR in Fallout 2 that involveda plot to threaten Vault city with raiders and the player can talk to like 5 people, each with their own ways and motives of how to solve the quest
its actually a great part of the game that shows how tangled and messey the Questlines get, its something i wish Bethesda had learned before making fallout 3&4
>>339938834
it's not
it just shows an animation of you getting dipped and your vault getting fucked
it's as much of an ending as your vault running out of water
meanwhile the actual endings show the places you've been to and interacted with like Junktown and Shady Sands
>>339938679
In fallout 2 Cassidy says
>I wonder if Texas survived the war
as if it only happened recently.
Let's face it, the writers after Fallout 1 didn't have a clue what they were doing with the universe
>>339938984
You can make concrete structures now.
>>339939138
that doesn't even sound like he meant the war happened recently
he's just wondering about it because barely anyone has been to Texas after the war.
>>339939025
>>meanwhile the actual endings show the places you've been to and interacted with like Junktown and Shady Sands
How can that post-ending story reel matter if all you're going to get is
>Supermutants conquered Shady Sands, everybody died
>Supermutants conquered Junktown, everybody died
>Supermutants conquered The Hub, everybody died
>>339939373
maybe you need to git gud then
>>339939138
wat
>>339939373
The normal story reel could be simplified to this degree too if you really wanted to. Most people like having some flavor endings though.
>>339939324
It's been 200 years, why would they be talking about the war?
>>339939373
im biting this bait and i dont even care
>>339939373
btfo
>>339939659
why wouldn't they be talking about it? especially since their current situation is brought by that war
it's been 2000 years and people are still talking about Jesus
talking about it doesn't mean it happened recently
>>339939659
I hope you are merely pretending to be retarded
>>339939450
>>339939684
>>339939784
I wonder...
>>339935393
Fallout 2 was a veyr rushed game. Think about it, it's one of the GOATEST of all time all years as it is, what it could have been had they not royally fucked up.
>>339940103
Tried Restoration Mod?
>>339940140
Nah, I haven't played FO2 in about 10 years.
>>339940321
it restores the EPA location
which is like a small Old World Blues from New Vegas
and adds some other cut content
like the ending where Gecko and Vault City join together
>>339939861
it's been 100 years since WW1 and we don't even talk about how that has affected our lives
>>339940626
Yeah, I've wanted to replay it modded for a while, but to be honest I've already played it to death back in the day and since I've never even played any of the other 3 classic FOs I think if I were to do it I'd start with thoseeven Brotherhood, I've been extremely curious about how bad it can be.
>>339940829
WWI didn't have nukes
>>339941056
I wonder if Hiroshima survived WW2...
>>339940829
We've had something that happened to affect our lives much more than WWI did after it.
>>339941305
it did
>>339940987
Ever done a full retard run? It does have some neat special dialogue here and there.
Like when you meet a dying Hakunin he'll lament his choice of you as the chosen one and stress the description of the Enclave.
>>339941484
I did, it was quite amusing I remember.
>>339941329
>>339940829
We still talk about WWII all the time
>>339940829
>IMFUCKINGPLYING
NIGGA WE WUZ SOLDIERS AN SHIEET
Fallout 4 > 3 > shit >>>> NV > 1 > 2
Prove me wrong
>>339938679
DC is mostly black, isn't it?
>>339940321
Then try this >>339940140. It fixes tons of bugs, finishes unfinished quests and adds locations which didn't make it into vanilla FO2. And higher resolutions as a bonus. It's great.
I think I might be legitimately retarded. It took me about ten minutes of walking back and forward on the world map to work out how to enter villages. Also had to google how to end a level in Postal. I'm 30 as well so it's not like these games were before my time.
GUIZE
I think I fucked up
I decided to replay Fallout 1, and finally finish it this time. I picked Max Stone as a base character, and min maxed a low INT/PER high STR/ect, with the melee traits. Problem is, while he has melee tagged, SMALL AND BIG GUNS ARE TAGGED AS WELL WTF
Should I reroll and not fuck up, or continue my gunslinger with 1 PER?
>>339944738
That's ok, I used INT and CHR as dump stats in FO1. I couldn't leave the tutorial cave because I kept getting into fistfights with rats, not knowing I could just run past them.
>>339939138
>>339939324
>>339939659
Cassidy and his name was a reference to Preacher. Texas was a major part of the comic, with a character named Cassidy being a protagonist. That's why he mentions being named after a pre-war comic, and Texas.
>>339942362
>WWII
>>339945234
Why is Fallout 2 just endless references? It's like how developers now put memes in their games, making it look horribly dated or confusing players in the future
>taking Fallout 2 story seriously
The story was as serious as a GTA game. It was a social commentary making fun of everybody. The whole point of the story was that you are an outsider walking into American culture.
>>339938679
Because Bethesda didn't want to make a post-post-apocalyptic game.
But if you want an in-universe reason, the DC area is irradiated to shit while California/Nevada only gave you rads in a few isolated areas, and the super mutants had the run of the downtown area, where most of the useful infrastructure was. This made the west coast much more conducive to rebuilding than the east coast.
>>339944857
Why did you minmax your attributes for melee but not change your tag skills?
Anyway, in Fallout 1 you can raise skills to 200% with no diminishing returns, so after a few levels you can get 95%-to-hit eyeshots even if you're eating serious penalties. Fallout 1 really isn't a game you need to minmax unless you've got some dramatically unusual build.
>>339938038
>>realism is suddenly bad
It was always bad unless you were autistic.
>>339945545
Why are there more super mutants in either FO4 and FO3 than FO1 and FO2 combined when they originated on the west coast?
>>339947547
In Fallout 3 there's a vault full of FEV, apparently a fucking shitload of it since they've been pumping them out for decades at least. The mutants take prisoners just to turn them into more mutants.
In Fallout 4 they were produced by the Institute in their experiments with FEV. Again, apparently they performed a shitload of the same experiment and just released the mutants instead of euthanizing them every time.
>>339947547
Bethesda needed a generic enemy type and they don't give a shit about the lore, which is also why almost no super mutants show any intelligence. They're Orcs for the Fallout universe.
>>339949903
in fallout 2, the super mutants lived peacefully with the humans
>>339949903
there were feral ghouls already
or trogs from van buren
>>339950629
Bethesda don't care about that, all super mutants are interested in in new Fallout is looting and killing.
>>339950629
That's because those Super Mutants were made by the Master (or, at least, were led by the ones made by the Master). Every other Super Mutant was made by accident, or by people who were nowhere near as smart as the Master.
>>339952134
I thought they were just dipped in liquid to change them?
>>339950629
Some of them did. You can run into "remnants of the Master's army" random encounters and they are anything but peaceful. Even half of the mutants in Broken Hills wanted to get rid of the humans and ghouls.
>republicans are part of the problem
Yet your actions can help a fledging Republic
>>339953864
Yes, but the specific amount and composition of FEV liquid to make smart Super Mutants was a secret that was lost when the Master died.
>>339940829
World War I didn't destroy human civilization as we know it
>>339942656
Did this actually bother people? I didn't even notice that guy was black until people started bitching about it.
>>339949903
But that's wrong you fucking idiot. It makes sense for both Vault 87 and the Institute to have access to supplies of FEV. And you're ignoring the fact that plenty of Mariposa super mutants were just as dumb as the ones in Fallout 3 and 4. But of course, acknowledging that would mean that you would have to stop shitposting.
>>339935393
It's not.
1>3>NV>tactics>2
>>339955746
It's right actually, there were reasons ingame but the existence of super mutants didn't contribute to the world or story in any way, they just needed a generic enemy type. The note you pick up from the mutants saying "KILL LOOT RETURN" should tell you all you need to know about Bethesda's views on super mutants.
Also, while there were plenty of dumb mutants in 1 and 2, it's nothing compared to 4, 3 didn't go overboard and at least had Fawkes, but the only mutant that showed any intelligence in 4 was Vergil, unless I missed one somewhere else, and even then he goes back to human soon after you meet him, so long as you let him.
>>339956364
shit opinion desu
>>339956364
2>1=nv>3 is the actual answer
