So /v/'s favorite devs, Ninja Theory have a new game in the works titled "Hellblade" and they just put out a new video of the gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2j1zHsbKw
Thoughts lads?
>>339893703
>/v/'s favorite devs
Stopped reading there
>>339893703
>open vid
>dev wearing a Balor Club shirt
>closed vid
Go back to /asp/
>>339893841
>what is a joke
>>339893870
Are you me?
Weren't they making Niho or whatever that japanese-souls rip-off was?
>>339894260
Team Ninja =/= Ninja Theory
>>339893703
Tameme's game looks kind of boring
>>339894337
So wait, is Ninja Theory the one who made Donte? And Team Ninja who makes the DoA games?
What about Ninja Gaiden? Was that Ninja Theory too?
>>339894527
As far as action games go Team Ninja have a far stronger pedigree than Ninja Theory.
>>339894527
So, Ninja Theory were the guys who made Donte and a bunch of other shit, while Team Ninja made DoA and Ninja Gaiden along with some other shit...
This would be a lot less confusing if one of them fucking died and went bankrupt.
>>339893703
>Balor Club shirt
Never closed a video so fast in my life
>>339894887
google it faggot
Think it has potential. But dear lord that was am awful video. Could not have been more boring
>>339893703
looks like shit
the static camera makes it look kind of boring. Stuff is way too slow for a character who "needs to rely on speed since she is physically weaker"
>>339894527
Ninja Theory did:
Hellblade
DmC Devil May Cry
Heavenly Sword
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West (and the blamed the DMC fanbase for the negative reviews and low sales because it came out after it was announced that Ninja Theory was raping Devil May Cry)
Team Ninja:
Dead or Alive
Ninja Gaiden
Metroid Other M
It's kinda sad how Balor has that shirt but isn't part of any Club.
>>339894965
I did. For the longest time, I thought the guys who did Ninja Gaiden 3 were the ones who did DmC, thus the reason both of them sucked.
Turns out Team Ninja is just hit or miss, while Ninja Theory just sucks.
Is this the game they were making about dementia?
Enslaved is still one of my favorite games from last gen. I liked Heavenly Sword. DmC was an egregious load of shit and inspired the worst attitudes out of everyone involved in that whole debacle.
But I still like these dudes and feel like their aesthetic style has always been on point. I'm genuinely interested in this game.
>it's a balor mark
closed
>>339893703
Ninja Theory couldn't make a game with an interesting combat system if they were completely over taken by the geniuses behind God Hand, Bayonetta, DMC3, and Ninja Gaiden Black.
Yet they keep trying.
It's almost admirable, but every time it turns out to be generic drivel.
>>339895436
Balor is a good wrestler.
>>339893703
You know, I know DmC got some flak but that didn't mean you should revert back to fucking whatever this is.
This look bad. And I'm not seeing much gameplay here, it's mostly about what juice they pumped into it.
>>339895327
Hah, you fucking tool, Enslaved and Heavenly Sword were way fucking worse than DmC.
>>339893703
>Dreads
Shit tier waifu 0/10
>>339895806
Heavenly Sword wasn't that bad. Fri what I remember it was a great early gen exclusive.
>>339893703
Looks alright to me but I feel like the character should've been more rogue like if they're going for speed over power and also used a different weapon
>not being able to cut your opponents Achilles' tendon and stab them in the neck as you dive, duck and roll underneath their weapons
>>339895968
It looked great - they continually make games that look great. I'll give them that.
But trying to slip an opinion like "I liked this otherwise subpar God of War clone" past by shitting on the same game everyone else was, especially when said shit game was them emulating an actual good series.is a weasel move.
I still can't think about the ending of Enslaved without cracking up.
>>339895674
and in all other regards he's the most boring man alive
in the land of good workers you need an extra hook and muh demon entrance doesn't do anything for me
>>339893989
>i was only pretending to be retarded xD
Fuck off kid.
>>339895806
I played all 3, and DmC was the only one I didn't like enough to complete. Heavenly Sword, Enslaved, and now Hellblade show a natural propensity towards naturalistic worlds and characters. DmC was not their style, and it showed.
>Hah, you fucking tool
They're games, anon. Reserve that repressed anger for something else, like when you shoot up your school.
I watched all the devs diaries and while the people behind this game are truly awesome as is their vision and objective, the game is second-rate in its entirety. It's not bad like indie bad but its just second grade and looks mediocre as fuck.
I don't know how or why the director thought he could express mentiall illness through gameplay or why that was even a good idea in the first place. The one thing that really bugs me is the camera, its the same shit they pulled in Batman Arkham knight and it kinda sucks. It almost makes me wish it was on rails
>>339896209
Enslaved could've been good
>>339893703
>/v/ Doesn't like based Finn Balor
Holy fuck. This board is literally hell. Why am I still here?
>>339893703
Why all the enemies look like absolute shit?
>>339896475
>anger
You feeling attacked, pretty boy?
Enslaved was a clone of Bamham's combat with some absolutely terrible shooting thrown in for good measure. Heavenly Sword was a clone of God of War's combat.
And you're going to sit here and tell me that their DmC, the one that actually went above and beyond the studio's lobotomized gameplay designers and emulated DMC, and remains the best western hack n slash as a result, is the worst of the lot because the other two are more realistic?
Hah. You fucking tool.
>>339896643
>why am I still here
Just to suffer?
It looks graphically nice. I like the character designs I'm seeing.
I do not like what I am seeing with the combat. I do not like the health indicators being fucking blood screen. I do not like that without cancelling, you are doing the same move over and over.
Also all enemies are the same.
A fucking shame. Basic mistakes. If they listened to feedback they could have their first actual genuine good game.
>>339896672
Everything cvomes down to their budget and the fact that they just aren't as talented as other developers. At their best they make some pretty decent games but they're really not great game developers.
>>339896672
They look good but similar like you're fighting some zombie guys that keep coming after you
Maybe that is the case and they represent different mental issues and the game is all in her head right before she dies in reality
>>339894949
>not too sweeting your screen immediately
what the fuck man
>>339896820
This is true. They have said that this game has a lower budget compared to all those big games you see coming out for other companies. One angle they were coming from is showcasing cheaper games can be successful
>>339897036
/v/ is full of Vince cocksuckers who champion "muh spurtz intertaynmunt"
Same as /asp/ desu.
>>339893703
>devs make a female character physically weaker than the enemies as a gameplay element
why do they do this? do they not realize there are a lot of women who are stronger than men?
>>339896726
I'm already a Demon.
>>339896321
Why are you shitposting?
What do you gain from posting that?
>>339897089
>One angle they were coming from is showcasing cheaper games can be successful
Exactly, they are aiming for a AAA-like experience on a budget and they are documenting every step of the way in hopes to inspire people and young game developers and also to themselves to see if such a thing is feasible. This is why I respect them but by virture, I don't buy games out of sympathy or pity, to me it still looks mediocre and new-ageish because of the mental illness stuff. If new footage makes it look enjoyable then I might buy it but right now I'm holding my bucks and wishing them the best.
What they're doing is a good thing.
>>339896712
>hah, you fucking tool
>feeling attacked, pretty boy?
>'a weasel move'
Holy fucking shit. Do you live in a bunker?
Why are they using the big motion capture studio now? I thought the entire idea behind this shit was to make a low budget "AAA" game.
>>339895178
>They both have shit history
Nothing lose, nothing gained.
>>339897348
They apparently own a mo cap studio so it's possibly affordable for them?
>>339897348
>Why are they using the big motion capture studio now?
Because they own the studio.
>>339893703
Combat looks too easy
Those animations are pretty choppy too
>>339897348
I think epic games or someone approached them for mocap help but they are still doing a lot of the mocap on their own with help of animators
Looks not terrible, but not very engaging, either.
At least the music is nice.
>>339897517
>>339897550
It still costs money. In one of the previous dev diaries for this game they even build a very low budget motion capture set in the office.
Eh, the old combat was atrocious. This is slightly better but not particularly good. Better than nothing I suppose.
>>339897780
I'm sure it does but we're assuming it fits in their budget hence the use of it
>trusting ninja theory after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOB1XRsqC8
I don't like the OST and the fact that they gave it to this single guy to do. It's weird screamo shit its gay as fuck lmao
>>339893703
this has been a thing for years
>>339897883
I think they are als sponsored by the british goverment because they promote culture or some shit like that.
>>339893703
this looks fucking terrible
>"We wanted to make her feel vulnerable because the vikings are stronger than her so speed was a primary focus"
>Video immediately cuts to her swinging into a viking's defense and staggering him by overpowering him
>>339893703
I want swordplay that looks like the movies. I'm tired of this multi combo shit like you're hitting people with blunt weapons.
>>339897634
holy shit thats funny
>>339897634
Holy shit can they do anything original?
>>339898845
Using real animals for artistic inspiration has been a thing since forever.
Holy shit. How hasn't this shit studio closed down yet? No one currently employed by NT should work in video games again.
>>339897634
>>339898845
>using interns to do your promo art
why do companies do thisretorical question, i know why, but its still fucking stupid and makes you and your company look like shit
>>339899006
Theres a difference between taking inspiration from something and straight up copying it.
>>339893703
From 3:23-3:33 I like the song in the background, from what was able to be heard. Sounded like vikings meets Metallica.
Other than the soundtrack prospects I don't see anything that interesting with it.
If I was a betting man a meme will be created relating to the fact the first trailer said "Through the lens of mental illness" followed by something in the game that looks bad.
>>339899006
dont be an apologetic, has tracing being used for promotional art been a thing since forever too?
>>339898481
This.
Literally dropped before it began.
>>339897634
I literally don't see anything wrong with this
It's an artistic reference, although cutting it a bit close to the original
You guys would flip your shit if you ever read comics desu
>>339893703
>Ninja Theory
nah, not after DMC... its amazing they're lucky enough to stay in business churning out the crap they do
>>339899285
>/v/ proves to know nothing about the artistic process.
Stop the MOTHER fucking presses.
>>339899253
I'll stop if you promise to stop being so nitpicky.
>>339899418
>video games
>art
fucking pick one
>>339897985
Let's be completely honest, we would probably be praising that game if it did not have the Devil May Cry brand name.
>>339899498
well meme'd my brother.
>>339899285
>>339899449
>X isnt important because i dont see the big deal lol
using a refrence is not the fucking same as literaly drawing on top of what you are supposed to be using as a refrence. theres nothing "artistic" about it, just means you're a fucking hack
>>339893703
Looks fucking clunky and awful lmao.
>>339897634
>>339899138
Here is a track from the game that they posted a bit back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONbsa01-FJU
>>339899621
It's obviously not tracing. It's just very close to the originals.
>>339894887
They made Heavenly Sword (mediocre), Journey to the West (well written but mediocre), DmC (mediocre), and disney infinity (guess).
>>339899509
I doubt that, then it would just be another dull game that plays similar to what it's trying to go for.
If that were the case there would be dozens of Lords of the Fallen threads.
>>339899843
please, point out where i used the word "tracing"...
because im prety fucking certain i didnt fucking say it, learn2read, also go educate yourself on artistic integrity while you're at it.
i'll wait
>>339900060
Right here. >>339899253
>>339898845
Apart from the weird visual distortion of its multiface, the rest of the normal animal is more disturbing to me.
Why the fuck is it so baggy and leathery? Why does it look like a dwarf mummy with a dog head?
>>339900060
>>339899621
using a refrence is no"T" the fucking same as lite"R"aly dr"A"wing on top of what you are supposed to be using as a refren"CE".
>>339895178
>Enslaved: Odyssey to the West (and the blamed the DMC fanbase for the negative reviews and low sales because it came out after it was announced that Ninja Theory was raping Devil May Cry)
Bullshit. I had honestly never heard of the game till a few years after it's release. they needed some marketing on this game
>>339900176
touche
you're still wrong tho about it being acceptable though
>>339900279
B for effort
>>339899498
Well many games can be considered art but not in the way you think.
Two good examples argueably could be Bioshock and Shadow of the Colossus.
From a technical level they look brilliant, for their time from art design to actual techniques in light and particle effects.
Each has gameplay that is tight and responsive and immerses the player in the world they are in.
Also they don't suffer from that pseudo something or another, (that thing where gameplay and story clash i.e. Pacifist in cutscene, badass with shotgun outside)
Finally set piece moments that actually invoke something in the player other than, this looks cool.
tl:dr
Games are art, but most art is shit.
>>339900398
What's wrong with concept art getting close to the original reference? It won't show up in the final game, and real life has tons of cool shit.
>>339900443
pong is art
>>339900712
It shows how fucking uninspired they are, just copying shit they found on the Internet instead of trying to give it a unique twist.
>>339900712
just because life has tons of cool shit doesnt mean you should trace/draw on top of it
it takes the piss that this is what counts as an "artist" these days, any fucking shmuck with photoshop can take a "refrence" photo and throw some brush strokes on top of it, that doesnt mean they then should be qualified to work as a proffesional designer
it's a joke and insulting to artists who have actual talent, and have practiced for years
>>339900920
pong is chill as fuck
>>339900712
>finds a bear off google
>covers it in runes and 4 extra eyes
good work jeff, see if you can pull anything more off of google to save us some more time.
>>339900920
>>339901205
Yeah, simple, elegant and literally impossible to fuck up.
>>339900932
The animal does have a unique twist.
>>339901076
>any fucking shmuck with photoshop can take a "refrence" photo and throw some brush strokes on top of it
Don't pretend like this is Mass Effect 3-tier laziness.
>>339901491
>mentioning mass effect 3 what it considered acceptable "art"
m8 i'll gut you
>Slow clunky static camera combat with long ass stunlock while you stay in place.
>Rest of the video is just "OH MAN LOOK AT OUR GRAPHICS"
Nah.
>>339900393
>they needed some marketing on this game
they with the "DMC fanbse is sabotaging this game" straw man because of DmC
>>339902221
You misunderstand. Mass Effect 3 had lazy photoshop shit in the game itself. Concept art isn't anywhere near that level.
>>339898845
That's hella dumb
>>339902492
>concept
Looks promotional to me.
>>339902492
no, theres no missunderstanding, neither is acceptable
>>339902696
also this
>>339902696
Same shit.
>>339902802
It's fine because it's not tracing.
>>339902870
no
just no
>>339902958
While you might think it's lazy, unless you can prove that the source was traced, you're shit out of luck.
Fuck, some great games have been pretty blatant about their source material. Shit like "we really loved the shower gunfight in The Rock, so this level is just like that"
>>339893703
>female protag
meh..
>>339903084
nigga i'll fight you
>>339903332
Yes, that's unacceptable because it actually showed up in the game and is clearly photoshopped. This other stuff isn't.
>>339903516
>if it's ingame isnt acceptable
>if it's promotional art is
>>339893841
>misunderstood incredibly mild joke
>became irrationally angry
>compelled to post
is it autism?
>>339903794
Alright buddy let me spell it out for you.
I have an MBA degree in Art. I went to school for this shit and focused on spotting what the experts in the art world call "Faker's Art." That's anything from simple tracing, to photoshop, all the way up to more serious stuff like counter fitting money and stolen art. Based on my experience in the field, I can tell you that Ninja's Theories concept art is okay.
>>339903981
then art is dead if this shit gets a pass. im not a proffesional artist but iv studied it and do it as a hobby, weather it makes me a hardcore autist i dont care but that fuckin disgusts me that people would think this is ok to do, that it passes as "art", concept or otherwise
>>339894949
What's wrong with Finn Balor, I think he's pretty based
>>339904215
Then do something about it. Challenge Ninja's Theories to an officially sanctioned Battle Of Art. I have my license so I can oversee it and make it an official match. If they don't accept, they lose all right to ever create Art again.
>>339904330
>Battle Of Art
what's that? google just shows a charity-esque art contest, and an art competition of some sort
Combat looks slightly less shitty compared to the last time I saw it, but I'm betting it will still be incredibly boring and repetitive. Ninja Theory just can't do entertaining combat.
>>339893703
looks like total shit desu
no hype at all
>Looks nice
>"Look at the tech we used!"
>Still plays like shit
Will they ever learn? How are they still in business anyway?
>>339893703
The combat reminds of ryse son of rome. That kinda choppy, spammy style that tries to make everything look impactful but fails...
>>339904608
i think he was fucking with you
>>339905626
No, I really do have an MBA in Art.
>/v/ saying it's shit
Yes it is, but still better than garbage combat in games like Witcher 3 and FF15 which this dumb tasteless board sucks off
>>339907409
not really
this shit is slow and clunky and it looks like its impossible to be hit by enemies
Looks like it's playing the mental illness card because they had literally no other interesting ideas for a story. Probably going to be cringingly bad and legitimately insulting to people with actual mental illnesses.
>>339908475
>Probably going to be cringingly bad and legitimately insulting to people with actual mental illnesses.
Translation:
It'll be widely praised by the mainstream gaming press and will likely win at least one award
>>339903291
>>339908717
>>339908475
This will actually happen.
