I'm going to kill myself
okay
Try gitting gud
Also it took me 100 tries so keep grinding and learn their moves while dodging
Use the pillars to your advantage, concentrate on Ornstein, be careful. The fight is doable, but if it's your first time I can understand if you have some problems. Just be careful and patient.
can you blow me first?
I've never had a blowjob
Is Dark Souls fun?
>After a year of off and on playing I finally beat O&S
>the rest of the game just feels so flat that I basically drop it, going into the Catacombs was really a matter of "why the hell not"
Tell me DeS dosent have this big of a drop-off
>>339867905
>Tell me DeS dosent have this big of a drop-off
Absolutely not. DaS second half is considered its worst part, the quality drops significantly. DeS on the other hand is far better in this regard and has a consistent level of quality throughout the game.
The second half of DaS is just rushed to hell and back. It peeks at O&S.The endfight is still worth it
>>339867350
if you're doing it solo kill smough first
if you summon kill ornstein first
>>339868374
Eh, there is a drop off in the second half of Des but it picks up a lot at the very end. The drop also isn't as drastic as the one in Das.
>>339867350
O&S is a equipment test more than a skill test.
Decent armor and decent weapon are more than enough to kill those fuckers. It's easier to kill pikachu first since he comes at you and snorlax is slow as fuck. Abuse the pilars tp your advantage.
If everything fails use fire in your weapon and summon Solaire.
>>339867869
Once you get into the groove, yes.
>>339867905
>the rest of the game just feels so flat
The biggest meme ever perpetuated on this board.
If you just want to get through the fight, take the Crystal Halberd you picked up, kill Ornstein first, and then kite Smough around the broken pillars with it.
Use the silver knight shield and/or the lightning stoneplate ring. Summon solaire and focus on Ornstein. Use the pillar bases to heal and escape their long ranged attacks. Beat them again today at SL 48 on my second try. Don't lose hope.
>>339867350
The way I beat them was by killing Ornstein first and then backpedaling while shooting Super Smough with arrows.
>>339868601
I wouldn't call it the second half since you can progress mostly just how the fuck you want but I fucking hated the swampy parts of tower of latria (by comparison the pre swamp parts are my favourite in the game) as well as most of the valley except for maiden fight which was glorious.
Also maybe I was just casual back then because blighttown is easily my favourite DaS1 area
>>339868601
I don't know what you could mean by this. 1-3 ist still good, 2-2 not so great, but has a great bossfightif you don't cheese it with magic, 3-2 maybe a bit long but has nice atmosphere and one of the best bossfight, 4-2 I could say the same except that's shorter and everyone should have experienced the hellhole that is 5-2. And except dragongod I think all the final bosses are really good in their own way. No complete failures like bed of chaos or lame fights like Neato and Sen.
>>339867905
Tomb of the Giants is just a run through, Lost Izalith is the fucking worst, Duke's Archives is alright, New Londo is alright, Crystal Cave is just an annoyance in the way of a boss fight.
DLC makes up for it if you can be fucked to unlock it. Still fairs better than Dark Souls 2. From a level design standpoint, all of Dark Souls 2 is the last half of Dark Souls 1.
>>339869247
>Tomb of the Giants is just a run through
best invading place in game when the game was newer, dropping items next to dark corners
just summon and accept defeat. literally impossible to solo unless you fast roll and have the stamina
>>339869069
>backpedaling
When will this retarded meme die?
>>339868852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyAOLk9D-ao
>>339869389
My favorite place to invade is low-level Depths. Just put on a spooky cosplay build, invade at a low-level, fuck with the host a bit, and then disappear around the corner. Depths had a ton of places you could just disappear and reappear from.
I'd spend hours just fucking with low levels in the Depths, giving them something a bit more entertaining than just running at them with a lightning falchions and Havel's.
>>339867905
DeS doesnt have a drop off because nothing interesting happens in DeS
BB > DaS 1 > DaS 3 > DaS2 = DeS
I've never beaten O&S without a summon, forgive me /v/
>>339869069
>needing to kill Super Smough with arrows
He's the exact same just with lightning added to his weapon attacks.
the second half feels super rushed honestly, i heard it was too release before skyrim
Thread music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OZU3fi08-o
I hate the fags that say this but it literally took me 3 triesTo me one of the joys of Dark Souls is finding that one boss that you get stuck on. You don't summon, you don't look up guides, you just git gud.
>>339869804
I always summon Solaire. He's a great distraction. Ornstein loves to just continually wail on Solaire at the door leaving me free to take out Smough.
>>339870012
If you didnt do that spoilertag for all bosses ur a weak ass casual anyway
>>339869729
-t ps4cuck
>>339867869
Yes. Honestly one of the best games of the decade.Still think Bloodborne is #1 in the series though, then Dark Souls.
>>339869729
t. cock lover
>>339869668
Wasn't trying to meme.
Should I have said backing away instead?
>>339867350
Just beat them earlier this week
Maneuver around the pillars to pick off Ornstein first, then get up under smoughs legs and get him from behind in the 1v1. Block or abuse the i-frames on your roll when he butt stomps
>>339870012
Looking up guides for Dark Souls bosses never works anyway.
>Alright let me see how to beat that boss
>Step one: Just don't get hit
>Step two: Hit it back sometimes
>Cool
>>339869713
I have a green char in ripped purple pants for that, jump out, punch, bait a punch parry, then leave only to repeat later
I also have a lvl 1 in full dark armour / humanity draining hand just for noobs :^)
>>339869729
>likes BB above all else
>doesnt like DeS over DaS
I don't think the fight is hard, it's just really long and tedious because ornstein refuses to leave smough's rancid butthole. Both of the second phases are a joke.
Summon Solaire for real ending, so you have to summon Solaire for every fight you can.
>not broing it down with solaire at last boss.
>>339869804
I had no problem soloing them with my strength or sorcery build, but it was fucking terrible with my dex one.
>>339869729
>DaS2 = DeS
Nigga wat
DeS had atmosphere, amazing bosses, fast gameplay, cool areas and a bucketful of personality
DaS2 is absolute garbage slow, boring areas, soulless, awful bosses and worst of all [spoilers]shockwaves[spoilers]
>>339869137
>blighttown is easily my favourite DaS1 area
I just couldn't stand how dank and grimy it was. Undead Burg was nice and comfy and then the game went shitty until Anor Londo
>>339870550
DeS has a few good moments, but the game is very short combined that with only a good few moments it gets its place. Its not above DaS2 because DaS2 is a fucking huge game, it may be mostly terrible but atleast theres a lot to play through, and the DLC is just good enough for it to be tied with DeS
>>339870485
I was rarely human so I didn't even know about the summon signs. Plus I was used to solo-ing all the bosses anyway.
See ya next time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tliWDMrOjoQ
>>339870463
>>339870550
>implying he isn't a single platform ps4cuck that switched over from the 360 and never ever ever ever will ever get to play DeS
>>339870664
>long = good
ahaha no. DeS had great pace and almost everything was quality at least in regards to PvE.
>>339867350
It's not that fucking hard.
Seriously I beat it my first try, I summoned my friend and he pretty much one shot both of them.
Stop falling for this meme.
>>339868861
Agreed, people act like the second half is pure garbage but it still has some great stuff. Tell me you don't like Duke's Archives and New Londo.
(Also the DLC can only be done after O&S and that has the best boss fights in the game)
>>339870809
>almost everything was quality
Stonefang tunnels.
First two areas/bosses of blighttown
Those two areas are confirmed terrible, problem is thats HALF THE FUCKING GAME and the rest of areas are just alright, tower of latria is the only impressive one
>>339870664
So you're saying quantity over quality
Almost every area of DeS is amazing
>>339870012
Sif was that for me - O&S took me a bit, but Sif took me an hour and a half. However, before Sif (who I fought much earlier then you have too), I didn't roll, and relied predominantly on tanking with a shield - Sif would wreck me with his double twirl slash whatever - first hit would crack me open, and the next would drop me
After Sif, I relied a lot more on rolling, and the rest of the game wasn't so hard
>>339870670
You have failed.
Go back and get the good ending.
You must save his life, he was just looking for a sun ;_;
>>339870816
>it's not hard
>my friend beat them for me
kys
This game is praised so much for being so hard but that doesn't mean anything at all. I can play a great game of Monopoly every time if I get to slap the money out of other peoples hands and flick their houses off the board. It'll be extremely hard for the other players. They won't have any fun though.
And that's the problem with this game. It isn't fun. It's annoying. There's no minor details or clues to pay attention to before your player gets killed instantly. It's like an over-done, over-praised Action-RPG attempt at Iwannabetheguy.
But people are just lining up to talk about how they beat the game as if that shows anything other than their skill at google-ing. I'm sorry. I don't want to have to surf the internet every ten minutes to play a game so I can pretend I had fun with it, just to continue this charade of the game being worth anything at all.
Trying so hard to seem un-approachable should only be awarded by actually becoming un-approachable. Yet trendy-gamer after trendy-gamer can't stop hurling their dignity into the repulsive volcano that is this game's design.
God knows I've tried to give it plenty of chances. I wanted to like it. But I refuse to pretend that I like something just for attention. I guess that's what separates most of us from Kotaku.
>>339871032
You blocked poorly, you block, release, block, really quick and you can shield against Sif.
>obviously if you wanna be das pro you just run at everyone's left knee
>>339870213
BB needs a PC release
I fuckin' hate console politics
>>339871032
>tfw Sif is the only boss you've beaten in your first try so far
Is this my one chance to be that guy?
>>339871165
>There's no minor details
watch the shoulders, works on most enemies
granted 99% of players googled their way through the game, but don't act like it wasn't do-able without
>>339871165
>There's no minor details or clues to pay attention to before your player gets killed instantly.
BAIT
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I
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>>339871032
This opinion is kind of alien to me because I don't think I actually got hit during that fight. It was over so quick that the only thing I remember is how cute it is when he starts limping like a bitch.
>>339871246
>If you wanna be das pro you just run at everyone's left knee
Is this the secret I've been missing out on this whole time?
>>339871165
Only faggots brag about beating a Souls game and saying how hardcore they are.
Unless you play a game competitively in person and win at something, then you're not actually good at video games.
>>339871463
Also sometimes you roll into their cock when they swing.
>>339870961
stonefang was only bad when you had to deal with the fucking bearbugs but it had a shortcut to flamelurker anyway so you didn't need to go through it twice. Also flamelurker was a great fight if you didn't abuse with thiefs ring
I assume by what you mean with blightown is the valley, valley was overall worse than the main game but it wasn't anywhere near DaS2 tier.
>tower of latria is the only impressive one
Fuck no, boletaria was amazing, almost latria tier, second dragon fight was a bit annoying but once you got past to it you got the best boss in the game which was simply AMAZING.
Shrine was also pretty good.
Furthermore aside from the bearbugs DeS had NO poorly paced areas whatsoever, and even with the valley there is no significant drop in level design which is overall top notch 10/10.
>>339871637
Or stay behind them and stare at their ass.
>>339871463
Yes.
Trust me, load up dark souls, never use lock on (lock on for nubs) always run at the knee on your left (made a mistake in other post) you sprint past the attack, do a 180, hit a bunch of times, enemy turns round, repeat.
even enemies that fly off or jump away can be sprinted at.
Sprinting > ninja flipping >Parrying > Rolling > Blocking
order of opness on darksouls
>>339871463
ye, once you get comfortable enough to just roll well most of the game becomes much easier. I'd still keep a shield around just in case but learn not to rely on it aside from maybe turtling behind it while you study the boss patterns, but rolling is still an effective way of doing this. Gonna help you a lot too when you play BB even if its relatively faster.
>>339868747
It's not really much of a test. As long as you've upgraded your weapon i.e. aren't a literal retard you should be fine damage wise.
People do this all the time with reinforced clubs and hatchets and daggers. Armor is really needed desu, worst case scenario if you just can't get good trying bombing Ornstein with chaos fireball or something then pick off super Smough since he is super easy to abuse the pillar trick on. It's also possible to stun lock him with a chaos zweihander if you use the heavy attack.
>>339871136
>played the game how it's meant to be played
>suffering for no reason other than to say you're basically a huge nerd
>fighting manus with no shield while midrolling
>>339871443
>>339871320
My first time playing, I only used maps so I didn't miss items - I had no idea what bosses would do what, or how they would attack.
With Sif, the last boss I had defeated was...gaping dragon I think? And so I was afraid to get under him, and instead stood in front of him like a retard.
It wasn't until after an hour I realized being underneath him didn't hurt, and started using his blind spot there. By then I deduced that a shield was fuckin' worthless, and just dodged+2hand with my claymore
I actually had more trouble with Havel, but he isn't a boss. It's rather hilarious how hard Havel is when you aren't trying to cheese him with backstabs or parries
>>339867905
I don't know how much you know of DeS, but you can do the worlds in any order, so you can do the bad ones at any time ( I personally think valley of defilement is the worst, so I always do it first then go have fun at latria and the palace)
>>339871165
These games aren't that hard, certain areas and bosses are hard for certain people
People like em because it's a game that doesn't hold your hand, it's more like the games of old
>>339871941
>rolling
lol
you are no good if you think you need to roll in dark souls
sprint and jump more than enough
>>339871486
>ywn win Evo
Suffering
>>339872101
>Havel
>not just running up 5 steps and falling on him reapeatedly
>>339871486
none of the competitive mongs could finish the first r6 with bugged ai
>>339867869
Bloodborne is "funer"
>>339872339
Honestly outside of competitive gaming I think rhythm games are the only games where you can actually say someone is skilled at something. Every other game is just trial and error or memorization.
>>339871032
>that watermark
Crop that shit next time
>>339871637
I figured the advancing roll was usually my smartest option but I didn't figure the left side approach was best in particular
>>339871892
I'll definitely put that to use
I'm up against the Four Kings next so I'll probably need it
>>339867905
DeS at the same point as O&S happens just ends.
Bigger drop-off IMO.
>>339870335
Guides usually show moves. I did a test in 3, did a blind playthrough but left my sign and helped 5 times at every boss.
Turns out I only died to Wolnir's mad dash and Pope's gigantic combo.
I dunno how guides are, but if they showed a person i-framing through tgeir attacks at medium roll, they're all you need.
>>339867869
I like Dark Souls for the same reason I like RE 4. Its slower paced, methodical action, with scarce resources, slow moving enemies that telegraph their very heavily damaging attacks, and a good deal of environmental exploration.
Hard as balls at first but become incredibly easy as your skill level improves.
>>339872803
It's especially good against 4 kings, make sure to sprint over at start; since then you'll only fight 1 king at a time as they spawn on a timer.
Being scared of dark souls is the only thing that makes it difficult once you learn the basics.
>>339872674
how about stuff like dmc3?
>>339872874
took 28 hours for DeS on my first run, only messed with some world tendency shit besides going through the main game
took 32 hours for DaS1 + dlc on my first run
>>339872101
>tfw didn't know what the fuck that cat was asking me to do
>decline
>just tells me to fuck off for the rest of the game
Alright whatever.
>>339872101
I got bodied by Havel so many times I just gave up and went for backstab cheese and even then it took so long I probably should have just done it later on
I didn't do Sif until right after O and S so I may have been over leveled for him
>>339873142
>not stabbing the catjump attack
>>339873302
does it go down?
>>339872674
Aren't rhythm games just memorization?
Or do they change patterns?
>>339873142
I did the same, you can buy absolution and reset the question
>>339873096
>Being scared of dark souls is the only thing that makes it difficult
Pretty much. Everything felt a lot fucking easier once I just learned to feel comfortable with the games
>>339867350
>>339867713
>>339867905
dunno about u casuals, i did it first try
https://youtu.be/Fmg0HjtKtBE
>>339870550
>not knowing how to spoiler text
>>339873369
it becomes a cloud
>>339870959
>Tell me you don't like Duke's Archives
Getting sniped from every direction wasn't too fun
>>339873873
run back around whatever corner you just came from, rushing duke's made it 10x harder.sprinting through at max speed not killing anything makes it 10x easier
>>339870959
Honestly only area I disliked in das1 was lost izalith
>using DSCM for the first time
>Darkmoon invasions out the ass
>guilty paying the price left and right
And now on Friday night, I'm getting nothing. This game is weird
>>339867869
I started getting really bored fighting my way back to the capra demon over and over again. I don't mind attempting bosses a lot but repeatedly doing the exact same shit just to get there again was really irritating.
I might have to try again though because the design and atmosphere of dark souls is some of the best I've seen.
>>339874150
You don't even need to do the capra demon.
>>339874150
I think the problem in this case is getting tunnel visioned in to thinking you HAVE to kill him next, when there is other bosses you could go to.
>>339874289
not everyone takes master key
even though they should
Roll Thief, Take Firebombs, kill Asylum demon before you get a proper sword.
>>339874150
Capra is easy, use a big weapon to stun him or a bleed weapon. You can also toss firebombs at him from the top. The cheesiest method though is to wait at the top, let him follow you. He'll do a jump attack at you which you can block then fall down. From there you can do a plunging attack. Repeat until dead.
>>339870550ctrl+su stupid fucboi
>>339874150
you can come for him later although what you should do at that point is just abuse him with the stairs
>go midway up the stairs, he will only walk once you're there (the first time take the opportunity to dispatch the dogs), get a few shots with a bow on him then run up the stairs, wait for him to come there then jump down, wait for him to jump down and as he is stunned get a hit on him, rinse and repeat
Or just get gud at rolling, he isn't that hard to do legit its just the fucking dogs but you can do them at the stairs first
>>339874430
You can skip capra even without the key, just go darkroot -> valley -> blighttown
>>339874430
>Take Firebombs, kill Asylum demon
There is no reason to do this unless your going strength build.
Its better just to trade a sack to snuggly and get the greathammer that way
Don't worry OP.
After that the game is pretty much over if you ignore the DLC.
Every boss after OandS is either complete shit or a massive disappointment.
>>339874767
>that filename
accurate
>>339873669
Lmao is it really this easy..? kek
>>339874775
maybe he missed painted world
>>339873669
>first time
So I guess he just got lucky and knew that attack would stagger them?
>>339874775
Four Kings is great and Nito is good, just too easy.
>>339875005
Dragonladys fight is interesting and unique but not really a challenge.
>>339875173
>Four Kings is great
>DPS the boss
I guess its hard to get the right timing for it. Plenty of people got steamrolled by Four Kings while others had no challenge at all.
The execution of the fight is pretty meh i guess.
And Nito suffers mostly from his bad AI. It's too easy to get him to use his miasma attack which cleans the room for you and gives you enough time to evade.
>>339874767
who isn't going loincloth + massive dildo weapon!?
also, you need the sack for loincloth + dildo mode.
>>339875174
I know but painted world itself is GOAT
>>339875456
The design is beautiful but the enemy variety is pretty lame.
Too many annoying low HP hollows.
>>339875378
>tfw nito with a zweihander and no holy weapon to remove the ads
Still did him first try but fuck me I must have used like 15 flasks
>>339875524
Yeah it had a bit of a das2 tier pacing going on but I still think that level design more than makes up for it
>>339875613
>those 2 minstrel black phantons in 1-3
this triggers me, delet
>>339870664
> DaS2 is a fucking huge game, it may be mostly terrible but atleast theres a lot to play through,
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why Bethesda games are popular.
>>339867350
Ahh, so glad I cheesed these fuckers early on ps3 release. Dragon head glitch for level 700+ and that throwing shield with op damage. Thank god for the internet.
>>339875106
its my own video, it was for a bet against a friend. and no I didnt know it would stagger him , i think you can hear me being suprised about the stagger as well in the video
>>339875740
So trueloved fo4 tho don't bully
For some reason I bet O&S on my second try but I got straight up fucked repeatedly by the Capra Demon for days
>>339875784
So you didn't really even play the game then? Alright, man.
I can't see the horrible level design of DaS2 that people keep mentioning.
The biggest difference is that DaS2 really tried to put enemies EVERYWHERE while DaS1 had huge pretty much empty areas like Anor Londo. Not that this is bad - It adds to the lore and atmosphere which increases the enjoyment of everything.
But its not like DaS2 has shitty designs. The Gutter is a pretty interesting mix of Blighttown and the Tomb of Giants and Iron Keep is a pretty beautiful area as well.
The lore is there as well.
>>339875524
Not him but I found it interesting
The toxic bag guys forced me into properly position for heavy attacks which really changed up my play style
And the rolly skellys were good for encouraging smart cautious play rather than just charging ahead and relying on poise or reaction rolls
>>339876552
DaS2 level design wasn't bad they just decided to put enemies EVERYWHERE with seemingly no thought of any pace whatsoever which is very annoying at least from me because I got used to the very well paced experience of DeS and DaS1
DLCs had some top tier areas but that fucking pacing once again almost ruined everything
