Hello, I'm the most common enemy in the game and I deal a shit ton of damage while being very resistant and occasionally come in a 100+ horde, I'm not broken though I swear.
AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
And i'm also totally not a rip-off of this guy ;^)
>>339853719
>use knife
>jump lots
EZPZ, get fucking serious you shitter
>>339853719
Just move to the side when they jump brah. It's not that hard.
>>339853719
> rather than attempting to get better at the game like in the good old days, people now take pleasure in typing salty threads on the internet as a way of dulling the pain
>>339853719
cloppity cloppity
just circle strafe nigga
>>339854992
Not when there's 6 of them jumping at you from every angle.
>>339853719
I just finished Serious Sam 1 HD edition. These are much more annoying. Specially in that area before the final boss where a fuck-ton of them show up.
>>339855409
moo
>>339855494
I swear this game gives me audio hallucinations. There isn't a single enemy that I don't hear off in the distance.
>>339855397
Well that your fault for not herding them into a group before hand. You got to make sure you group them up so they less of a threat.
>>339853887
AAAAAAAAAAAHH put a sock on it.
>>339853887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR8BEfDzzLg
Alright fagtrons, what do you want from SS4?
>>339856862
Make it the next TSE so there is more to do than mindless killing the same waves of enemies again.
>>339856862
Dammit 4chan. Pics like that are why I love this place.
>>339859162
you have to be 18 to post here kid
>>339859737
I'm well over the age of 18, anon. I just dip into 4chan every few months to hook the memes and meme remixes into my veins, and then I leave.
It keeps shit fresh, and all the memes and pics are funnier than they'd normally be.
>>339856862
Get the variety from TSE but without all the annoying rooms
Also color, BFE was so washed out at times.
Bring back Zorgs
Undercode for the boss themes
No fucking reloading on anything other than the pistol and double barrel
Netricsa's funny commentary from TFE and TSE
>>339853719
Hello, I'm one of the most common enemy in BFE and I can snipe you from across the map and constantly make your screen red and blurry. Also I blend in excellent with the urban environment and will duck and take cover.
>>339856862
>Better animations
>Altfire for weapons
>A fun and likable Sam Serious Stone (they fucked up with SS3)
>More varied locals
>No goddamn fucking skill trees like Shadow Warrior and Doom 4
>>339854091
they are shit at long distance combat, while kleers are a threat at any range
>>339862481
>No fucking reloading on anything other than the pistol and double barrel
I know it is annoying but the reloading of the AR coupled with different ammo than the minigun's in SS3 was a massive improvemend over the tommy gun. And what the pistol did wrong was the recoil, when not aiming down the sights it has bullet spread just like cawadoody, I'm still mad to this day
>>339862708
But do fuck all damage.
>>339856862
NO THIRD PERSON VIEW IN DEATHMATCH
>>339853719
>OP so bad he dies to Kleer
>probably playing on Tourist difficulty
You should consider switching to games where you can't lose like Kirby Epic Yarn or The Sims.
>>339862708
If you wanna complain about hitscan enemies, those scorpion fags are the worst.
>>339856862
not as many hitscan enemies as SS3 had
that's it. Otherwise I trust them completely to make a solid and faithful iteration in the series
Make it take place after TSE please
>>339856862
Keeping BFE's Serious. I fucking loved what they did with the difficulty.
>>339863527
Git gud
>>339855869
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>>339863960
I just like playing FPS online anon.
>>339856862
see
>>339863879
I want to have the extra hordes of serious difficulty without the sloppily added double ammo.
>>339863563
>The Sims
Death is behind every corner anon
>>339863879
What did they do besides reducing the absurd amount of traps compared to tfe/tse?
>>339863437
Doesn't matter, they constantly barrage you and sometimes it will take you a second before you figure out where they are. I don't know what the fuck they were smoking, every other enemy in Serious Sam has a distinct silhouette, or a vibrant color to help the player immediately recognize it. But not these assholes.
>>339863656
They're few and far between, and also it's very fun to kill a red scorpion with C4 in BFE.
>>339864236
Enemy damage multiplier was 2.5 instead of 2 and you didn't get double ammo.
>>339853719
I wouldn't call them broken but they sure as fuck near gave me an aneurysm when I LANed the game with my friends
Literally every 4~ seconds one of these would poke you from behind and at some point I just fucking lose it.
>>339863312
I don't see why they don't just ditch the AR and go straight for the minigun, since it's soooo satisfying to use in BFE.
Because every time I use the AR I'm thinking "Man I wish I was using the minigun instead".
At the very least I hope the next AR has an interesting weapon model and not modern military dark metal shit
>>339853719
Kleer becomes a minor annoyance later in the game because there are at least 10 more mobs on the same map who are 10 times more deadly than it.
You also get better guns, I just hate how it always takes 2 hits from normal weapons to kill these things if I am not smashing them.
>>339864620
>2 hits from normal weapons
Double Barrel shotgun.
Or just abuse the Syrian Mutilator, works wonders.
>kill all major threats
>only kleer left
>wrangle them around with double barreled shotgun
This is the best feeling in the world
>>339864607
You can just give yourself a minigun and unlimited ammo since the first level. Or a cannon. Sounds fun!I really liked AR, it was my go-to weapon.
>>339856862
The complicated, twisty level design from the start of BFE without the fucking same environments everywhere. I loved fighting through all those alleys, streets, and tunnels but everything looked the same for like 2-3 hours.
Don't make it the whole game of course, you need space for the hordes thrown at you later on. But I think there's a spot for alley fights near the start, for like an hour at most.
Also, revamp the melee system. Blocking and parries could be good but make it an awful choice against big groups.
>>339856862
Ideally?
-Bring back the Grenade Launcher from TFE/TSE (but also give it the animation from classic, I don't know why they removed it in HD)
-Also bring back the flamethrower
-Ditch the hammer and bring back the chainsaw, or at least bring back the chainsaw since we're not gonna have the Syrian Mutilator this time around
-Don't make retarded decisions like hiding the lasergun and sniper in secrets areas exclusively. Also don't make the sniper fucking useless
-Don't go back to boring and grey urban environments, take us somewhere colorful
-Don't put in any more annoying enemies. Scrapjacks and Khnums were fun, but everything else annoying at best and abysmal at worst (looking at you, Witch)
-Ditch reloading for anything but the pistol
-NO CRAMPED DARK CLAUSTROPHOBIC PLACES. I want Serious Sam not Doom 3
-Introduce fun and wacky new weapons, maybe a railgun or a lightning gun
-Secrets not places in shitty places. There are quite a few cases in BFE where I had a hard time getting there due to the geometry (not platforming, I mean I would just fall off for no reason or I couldn't pass through)
-Alternate fire for weapons
-Better animations
-Bring back Klodovic.
-Get Undercode to do the boss music again, or at least use something from Enlightening the World (Alone is pretty cool)
-Make Sam fun again. He came off as a bit of a douche in BFE.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
>>339863312
The deagle has bullet spread? I never noticed
>>339865675
>bring back
>bring back
>bring back
>>339865675
>-Ditch the hammer and bring back the chainsaw
get the fuck out
pick all your shit and get the fuck out
>>339853719
I fucking despise this enemy. I can never juke past their attacks consistently, and there is always 10 of them spawned at once whenever you open a door or pick up an ammo/health item.
>>339865924
Yes?
I liked Serious Sam for those things and I want to see more of them. Why is that wrong?
>>339865998
No, you fuck off.
The camera movement with that can fuck off too
And the fucking blood splatter which was more annoying than TSE
>>339865675
>-Ditch reloading for anything but the pistol
I actually like reloading for lower tier weapons that have almost straight upgrades (like the shotgun/assault rifle). It lets them make the guns more powerful, which means they're useful for more of the game but gives them a drawback that means you still wouldn't want to use them over the better weapons most of the time.
>>339866369
sledge is probably the most fun FPS melee weapon I've used
chainsaw was a shitty "hold attack and everything you touch dies" piece of overpowered shit
>>339866550
>chainsaw was a shitty "hold attack and everything you touch dies" piece of overpowered shit
So just like the revolvers, minigun, flamethrower, rocket launcher and lasergun eh?
The only enemies that the chainsaw was OP against were the marsh hoppers and gnaars, with everything else it was more practical to use any weapon.
>>339866971
IIRC it can actually saw kleers running at you. Or was it flamer? So many silly guns in TSE.
>>339867123
It can continuously damage kleers with the chainsaw as long as it's touching them, but you still need to dodge their attacks.
The flamethrower works similarly, but has a much longer range and you only need to hit the enemy once for them to immolate and take continuous damage for a short while.
With all those hitscans and the game being set, maybe, in space, laser rifle is mandatory.
>inb4 military weaponry
>>339866369
>And the fucking blood splatter which was more annoying than TSE
Your post was more or less ok before that particular thing. Fucking shitposter.
>>339865675
-Bring back Klodovic
Not. This. Shit. If you want SS to turn into another wacky stupid cartoon thing, you can always go fuck yourself.
>>339866971
>marsh hoppers
>>339868302
Oh yeah, we definitely wouldn't want wacky stupid cartoon things in a game where you kill thousands of aliensincluding a resurrected horse-skeleton thing, a brain on robot legs that shoots lasers, and a suicide bomber who is screaming despite lacking a headin various historical periods with a lasergun, a cannon, a Thompson submachine gun among others, now that would just be stupid.
>>339856862
PUZZLES
>Play Jewel of the Nile
>All the hitscan enemies bar the scorpions are removed
>No Witch-brides or Technopolyps
>Sniper rifle is now a common weapon instead of hidden away in one level
>Laser gun is outright handed to you by the game
>Devastator ammo spawns just frequently enough that you can actually have fun using it instead of hoarding the ammo "just in case"
>>339868930
Stop exaggerating, all the things you mentioned are ok and original, but there's only one little step to wreck the shit up, and bringing in the fucking suicide PARROT as a weapon would be one these things. You can compare how different SS1/3 and SS2 even though they still have a lot of the same things. But it looks like your head is full of shit so you can't realize such a simple yet obvious thing.
>>339869637
Yeah Jewel of the Nile was amazing and gives me hope that Croteam still knows what Serious Sam is all about.
>>339866971
>the chainsaw was OP against were the marsh hoppers and gnaars
The Chainsaw also takes out small to medium sized Kleer groups easier than the shotguns could ever. The chainsaw makes the shotguns redundant.
Not that it's saying much, the only time the shotguns was good was in Serious Sam 2, where they had good spread and good damage.
>>339868930
'cept this things are not cartoon and stupid in the original games but ss2
>>339869689
Oh so a cannon is perfectly okay and reasonable, but a suicide parrot OH NOW THAT IS JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID FOR THIS GAME
>>339870191
They're way to different to compare in terms of visual look, deisgn and usage. While cannon looks perfect and serious enough, a parrot just makes no sense at all. Oh, and any homing weapon is cancer and must die.
>>339870475
>parrot just makes no sense at all
Yeah because carrying a cannon just makes so much more sense than strapping a bomb to a bird and guiding it.
>>339856862
in-air movement
also bring back this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpRicVMbXkY
>>339872738
>1:04
SS was a really fun game but playing through it again on serious I was sick and fucking tired of kleer waves by the end of it
>>339869637
The vanilla campaign shits out Devastator ammo at you. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>339869637
My only problem with Jewel of the Nile was the jetpack area. It was a clusterfuck that somehow still felt crowded despite my new movement option.
Still, it was a crazy huge improvement over the base game, goddamn. Fun as fuck.
>>339855397
But it really isn't that hard. Their AI is dumb and you are expected to heard 30+ in this fashion without breaking a sweat.
>>339855397
It sounds like you're shit at handling kleer. Don't get me wrong, so am I, so I just don't let them survive long enough. Use strong guns, aim well and destroy them before they get a chance.
>>339855397
game's all about priority, some enemies must be killed before others and before they get close, kleers are among them.
>>339853719
But they die in one shotgun shot and can barely hit you as long as you just sidestep a little....
>>339872738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrXq-ViSCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ7paV-nJNo&t=2m20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LCfJ1Kamo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hegUgANcTw
I gotta replay these.
There's this one instance in either TFE or TSE where there is this huge corridor of the fuckers...took me so many tries.
>>339876906
>yfw there's a hidden cannon before them
