Anyone else pre-ordered the Party Bag edition?
censored
>>339840008
the only thing criminal about this is how criminally retarded NISA is, when are they going out of business?
So the people at NISA are officially insane?
>Censored twice as badly as the first game
NISA pushing what it means to be a sequel.
>>339840008
No. If I want to see anything about the game I'll look up the original CGs online, it's not much different.
>>339840008
>Censored
Nope.
What's said has been said already. Your shitposting isn't going to stop nisa from being faggots
But I can do better
The power distance is still too high, I just can't support a sexist corporation like this engraving their agenda into the minds of impressionable young sexy children, and turning them into rapist cis white males, like eugh
>>339840795
You are no longer punishing them though! Instead you have to motivate them! Its all going to be consensual of course!
I really don't understand.
>Game is literally just pervy pandering
>There is NO redeeming qualities in the gameplay
>Censor it to hell and back to remove aspects of pervy pandering
>Try and blame ESRB even though the changes were made long before they got the game
I find NISA to be non-genuine in their approach to shit like this.
>>339840008
>buying CG2
>after how censored the first was
>after NISA posted their bullshit on their blog
http://nisamerica.com/blog/CG2
Some highlights, in case you don't want to read it all:
>openly admitted to censoring the game BEFORE submitting it to ESRB/PEGI
>PEGI has confirmed that the censorship they do is not requested by ESRB/PEGI (see pic)
>rationale for the censorship is to " reduce the power distance between the player character and the girls" and to make it appear "consensual"
>Criminal Girls is a game about whipping criminals into shape, and NISA wants to make it "consensual"
>>339840008
>>339840008
Fucking NISA translate shit you don't need to censor like Coven or Hero Must Die
Fuckers
>>339841160
That image is about Ghostlight, you idiot.
>>339841250
>Demon Gaze
>not by NISA
Once NIS goes under, I doubt we'll have to worry about censorship from them again. NISA isn't going to seek out these kind of games on their own
>>339840008
I realy don't get why they do this.
>>339841469
They claim it's because the game would get an AO rating, but as PEGI and ESRB have explained, the stuff they censor would not get the game an AO rating. They also confirmed they censor games before submitting them for rating, so they don't even know for sure that they game would have been rated AO.
>>339841596
Might be talking about localizing this kind of game in the first place.
>>339841679
"This kind of game" has been localized before plenty of times with no problems. The issue here is NISA being retarded for some mysterious reason. Even if you look past the censorship, NISA has an infamous record of breaking things and adding bugs that weren't present in the original JP versions.
>buying censored crap
hahahahha
>>339841337
The Demon Gaze part at the top is but a footnote while the Agarest part which is the actual important part of the image is Ghostlight. You're retarded.
>>339841945
>Why are you undressing?
>the censored version isn't even undressing
Atlus also lied about that one. They claimed it would have gotten an AO rating, yet they censored it beforehand and didn't even attempt to submit it for rating uncensored.
I guess the only hope we have for these games are PC ports. NISA confirmed Criminal Girls 1/2 will be on PC, so I guess we can hope someone will somehow put the voices back in, the original art, and remove the pink fog.
>>339841914
Then just don't give NISA money and import the game like I did. It's not hard. Stop spreading negativity. I appreciate that NISA is at least making it clear from the beginning what is going to be changed. Redrawn art from the original artists is also an improvement to the first game which had awful pink clouds.
I'm considering getting the localization but I dunno if I want to play through the game again due to the amount of grinding in that game...
>>339842089
Unfortunately, you seem to be retarded for not noticing the entire point of the email. PEGI explicitly stated that washing a naked loli as a minigame is 100% fine, so long as you remove the world "child" or any references to the character being a child. Instead of doing just that, Ghostlight cut the entire thing.
Likewise, NISA could have left Criminal Girls 1/2 99% uncensored, if all they had to do was remove any reference to the characters being children.
>>339842286
>Say the image is about Ghostlight
>You also say the image is about Ghostlight
>you missed the point
>>339840008
No. I preordered this game instead. I'm not buying censored, sorry.That also apply to CG1 on Steam. No uncensorship no buy.
>>339842124
>NISA confirmed Criminal Girls 1/2 will be on PC, so I guess we can hope someone will somehow put the voices back in, the original art, and remove the pink fog.
Wouldn't you need an uncensored PC version to do that?
>>339842124
CG1 on PC will be censored
>>339842508
The entire point is that PEGI has confirmed you can have "risque" content like Criminal Girls or washing lolis, so long as you don't explicitly call them a child. Stop being silly, please.
>>339842541
>>339842671
The PSP version of Criminal Girls 1 exists 100% uncensored, so you can at least add back in the voices (and removing the fog shouldn't be too hard since it's a layer).
>>339842531
Or, you know,that game isn't on the radar yet and the censorship has yet to be discovered
Wait until after release if you don't want to get cucked
>>339842742
Given that we all know that NISA is full of shit I'm not sure why you think I'm unaware of this.
>>339842747
Nah one thing we know is NISA actually mentions when they censor games nowadays. Also none of those games are lewd even if the artist who drew them actively draw half naked lolis on twitter.
>>339842531
I'll buy this too if VGP get some for sale
>>339842816
Then there's no point to argue or debate this. NISA has been known to lie, and PEGI has confirmed that no "hard" censorship is required (just make sure to not reference the character is a child). The fact remains is that NISA are fucking liars about this stuff, as shown by how they're concerned about the "power gap between the characters" and the "consensual" nature of the acts (yeah, consensual acts with supposedly hard-core criminals).
At what point is it that enough content is removed/replaced that it's a new game entirely? Just asking, I'm not buying this.
>>339842531
>Tumbler changes with heat!
NISA preorder bonuses are so funny
>>339842154
>had awful pink clouds
http://kotaku.com/with-censorship-this-inane-criminal-girls-should-have-1684454619
I love nasty pink fogs instead
>>339841078
>Rape is not punishment, it's motivation
>>339841945
Meh, I take 4 images mildly censored out of like 250 more easily than an entire game being butchered
>>339842154
>Redrawn art from the original artists is also an improvement to the first game which had awful pink clouds.
No, it really isn't. The Jap version had the pink fog too, it just covered up less and went away over time. NISA's pink fog obscured the visuals but you were still perfectly able to see what was underneath. Redrawing the art is far, far worse, as it removes the original visuals entirely for neutered content.
>>339843152
Criminal Girls 1/2 revolves around rehabilitating a bunch of criminals. It has your stock standard RPG elements like Disgaea, Phantom Brave, and so on. The main draw is the "Punishment Time" minigame, where you get to spank, molest, and poke the girls for misbehaving. The CG's for this had the girls tied up, gagged, and so on.
The censorship changes it to "Motivation Time" because they thought "punishment" didn't sound consensual, and it made the "power gap" between you and the characters "too wide". They redid ALL the CG's to remove the bondage, gags, etc. They added a thick pink fog to obscure the CG's (the JP version starts with a thin fog that completely goes away if you do well). They removed ALL voice acting from the minigame (apparently having the girls moan and say stuff like "please don't..." made the "power gap too wide").
>>339840008
Gameplay?
>>339840008
>>339840120
>>339840352
>censored
What? why a vita game is being censored??!!
>>339842124
When you think about it, this just shows that Atlus really did only do the bare minimum when it came to censoring. They could have easily changed the text too
Anyways, it's going to be sad when a censored game is going to be used to lambast another censored game. DT2 still did get away with alot in the skin department
>>339843476
So would you consider that a separate game from the original rather than a localization?man I'll have to go find the cg's for the original, sounds hot
>>339843746
I personally would, since it changes the entire main focus of the game by butchering the fuck out of it. The entire point of the game was to rehabilitate a bunch of criminals. Their loyalty level would determine if they could use certain abilities or even obey your commands. If you had a low loyalty level, they would sometimes ignore move commands, move somewhere else, or so on. In order to fix this, you would punish them in the "Punishment Time" minigame (with all the stuff mentioned previously).
Since that's gone, they rewrote a lot of stuff. Instead of them being delinquents and disobeying orders, the NISA version has them being lazy or not hearing your commands, so you have to "motivate" them instead, which they fully "consent" to by the way (the NISA version has them explicitly tell you it's OK to "motivate" them).
>>339843175
Yeh it looks pretty cool. I really wish NISA could just focus on these games instead of angering niche gamers.
>>339844112
So why didn't they change it to "unmotivated girls"?
If they wanted to change it to such stupidity, then they should be consistent about it.
>>339844112
Well then. That sounds retarded, I'd have to agree that that isn't the same game.I can't find the original cgs anywhere
>>339843476
I'm 100% confident now that NIS is forcing these games on NISA to push out and suck up shekels.
There is no way anyone would put up with this much reworking under their own free will
So /v/, who's worse now that this shitshow happened, NoA or NISA?
>>339842124
They didn't lie though.
Submitting to ESRB costs money and you have to wait before resubmitting which will add extra time to localization.
What Atlus did do is they consulted ESRB beforehand, were told that those 4 images would cause problems, and then went to the original artists to edit them as little as possible.
>>339841945
The spats one is the censored version?
>>339844285
I honestly have no idea. This is coming from someone who played the original JP version and compared it to Youtube videos of NISA's version.
>>339844295
It's frankly not even much of a good game either. It plays like a heavily stripped down Disgaea for example (far less mechanics, but uses a similar grid system with a limited selection of characters). Its central selling point was the minigame, and that's been heavily neutered now.
>>339844307
NISA claims people loved the game and loved they way they handled it (they stated this on their forums).
>>339844584
That's not an official submission, so Atlus is still lying. They COULD have gone the route XSeed does, which is to submit the raw Japanese game before even working on it. This allows them to translate the game while they wait, and then they can "fix" anything they need to after they get the results back.
By the way, might I remind you that Senran Kagura allows you to kiss, molest, spank, and even strip 100% nude (with convenient light censors, of course) a loli and a 15 year old. All XSeed did was remove the ages, and everything was peachy.
>>339844759
Correct.
>>339844570
NISA has been censoring games for a long ass time and they censored the first game as well.
Then you'd have Ghostlight for censorship as well.
>>339840008
>censorship which removes the whole point of the game
no thanks, this is some how more retarded than nintendos censorship
>>339844787
>By the way, might I remind you that Senran Kagura allows you to kiss, molest, spank, and even strip 100% nude (with convenient light censors, of course) a loli and a 15 year old. All XSeed did was remove the ages, and everything was peachy.
People argue how it's done with consent as well :^)
>>339844935
It's anything but consensual in SK. The characters even specifically tell you to stop molesting them, "I'll call the police", and so on (even with subtitles). The game still didn't get an AO rating, despite how you can do this to a loli and a 15 year old.
Given that XSeed has never once had to censor a game outside of obscuring the ages (and they post the ages on their website and even tell you to check the site for their ages), NISA and Atlus are fucking liars of the highest order.
>>339840008
I already picked up the non-shit version with the full and complete version of the game.
>>339845084
Ryouna and Haruka like it but the rest you are right about.
>mfw when this is the dumbest shit i have never and i dont know what kind of person would enjoy this
>mfw when i unsarcastically hope that who ever does like this enjoys it and doesnt let anyone else shit on what they enjoy.
>>339845215
>unironically playing shit games
Bullet girls 2 is still a kusoge but it at least has gameplay and quality torture scenes
>>339840008
>Collecting censorship
>>339845297
oh boy did I typo the fuck out of that.
Oh well I dont care enough to correct it.
>>339845383
Also the last time I posted a screenshot I got banned, so just ask for them on vitagen
>>339840008
I'm not a brainless cuck, so no.
>>339844570
Probably NISA. NoA does have a more valid excuse when it comes to defending a very well-known name with a very wide audience
NISA are just small-time shit peddlers that are noticed on anime boards only two or three times a year. They have less leeway to fuck over their customers, but still do anyways
>>339845383
>quality torture scenes
>only old hags, no loli
Nah it's a shit game with no value whatsoever.
>>339845641
Enjoy your static jpeg with pink fartgas, while I put an eel in a highschooler's ass
>>339840008
This game makes zero sense without the bondage play.
It'd be like having a pokemon game without pokemon.
>>339840795
>young sexy children
Anon...
>>339845753
>high schooler
Fucking disgusting. JS or nothing.
>>339844787
If they were told while consulting them in an unofficial channel that the 3 lolis and the blowjob cg would cause issues for an M rating, then how is them editing those 4 images then submitting any different than getting an AO, editing the 4 images and resubmitting?
The only difference I can think of is that you don't trust their word, and would only trust an official rating. I think it's unfair to expect niche localizers to go that extra step to submit first because they could add extra money submitting, extra time waiting which would be lost money, and would effect sales forecasts because of the delay. If they were doing physical copies too they'd probably have to reschedule the printing which I'm sure would be a hassle and probably cost money as well.
If the end result is the same content no matter if they submit first or consult first, then why does it matter?
>>339840008
>Preordered.
Why not, it's fun game.
Why is everything getting censored so damn much this generation?
It wasn't nearly this bad in the PS3/PSP generation. What the fuck happened?
>>339843175
Reminds me of Esty Dee. Get it? STD! HAHA LOL XD
>>339846075
>actually believing one of those images would give an AO
>NISA doesn't know about consensual rape
>>339846223
Ironically enough, NISA also had the most noticeable censorship on the PS3
Twice
So they do have a history of still not giving a fuck for the sequels
>>339846296
I don't get it. Why are Sexually Transforming Diseases funny?
>>339842742
I wonder how it will turn out with psp assets.
Anyway that doesn't solve the problem for CG2
>>339846223
You notice it more as it gets easier to import and compare regional differences in games, but some degree of censorship has always been present. Video games are also becoming more mainstream, which puts them under greater scrutiny.
>>339843259
there is no rape
>>339846838
Who cares. The only redeeming quality is the lewds, and why bother with half-baked lewds?
>>339845215
So what you're saying is, I have to learn Japanese to play these games uncensored?
>>339844307
>There is no way anyone would put up with this much reworking under their own free will
Friendly reminder that at least one of the people that's active on the forums is FOR censorship. The only people I've seen writing censorship as "censorship" are those that are pro-censorship.
tl;dr
This fucking asshole is lying out of his fucking teeth whenever he says that they don't want to censor it.
>>339843187
>kotaku
You know shit is wrong when even Kotaku is against censorship
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4797385642/
>that price
Damn that's cheap. I might buy this artbook. Thanks anon!
>>339847154
Tie a ten year old up, lick her body and slap her butt whip a whip, guess what the judge's gonna say
>>339847637
Meant to reply to >>339847405
>>339847405
>crying
Boner ruined
>>339847494
That's that faggot Rednal guy who sounds more like a shill or former employee than anything else. Other users on that forum are upset by the changes.
>>339847494
I mean picking up the game at all
I wouldn't doubt for a minute that they would rather localize something else if given the option
>>339847637
>paying like 20 bucks for a prima strategy guide you cant even read
>>339847786
Those are tears of joy, Anon.
>>339847893
Oops. I thought that was the artbook. Can you point me in the right direction?
>>339847494
>The only people I've seen writing censorship as "censorship"
Confused black anime girl
>>339847681
He's going to ask to join in.
It's a good thing NISA chooses the shit games to censor. If they chose something like I don't know, NieR 2 maybe then I'd be pissed.
>>339847405
Anon pls, stop posting sexy anime children. It's a crime... PLEASE do NOT post more official pictures of those sexy anime children from Criminal Girls 1. I mean it. DO NOT. It's amoral!
>>339847494
>Censor a game before submitting to ESRB
>We don't want to censor games, I swear on me mums cum bum!
>>339848001
It's an artbook plus strategy guide
>>339840008
I know I'm in /v/ but,the game caters to who actually?
>>339848021
You know, quote unquote?
Those who are for censorship write "censorship", with " ".
>>339847985
They kinda look terrified to me
Maybe it's only me, but scared, crying girls in pain aren't really a turnon.
Nope. I don't buy censored shit.
>>339848127
pedophiles
>>339848075
b-but it cost money to get them rated, please understand, it's for the sake of quality.
>>339848335
It's extra money and time to censor them
Plus wouldnt jews be all for supporting pedophilia, bdsm and other degeneracies? You guys make no sense
>>339848335
I mean, if they actually just kept it at censoring CG but they just take it so fucking far trying to make it all "consensual" when they're fucking criminals.
If NISA directed a prison shower scene the guy would have no worries picking up the dropped soap because the black bull coming behind would gently first rub his neck and ask if he could penetrate his little shithole.
>>339848273
>scared, crying girls in pain aren't really a turnon.
Faggot.
>>339848273
>he doesn't know about Satoshi Urushihara
The guy invented tearful happy sees
>>339847494
>these edits were done to bring the game down to an M from an AO
I need an Amerifat to explain this madness for me. Am I right in believing that an M rating means 17+ and an AO rating means 18+? Why bother having two ratings so close together? Why are publishers so desperate to lower their game's age rating by one year? Is the exactly-17-years-old demographic so strong that it's profitable to completely gut a game for them?
Beyond censored.
>>339849056
One's a kid and other is not.
Though then there's the places where you're not allowed to drink until 21 so fuck do I know.
>>339849056
AO games aren't allowed to be put on store shelves in many areas.
>>339849056
More than ages AO basically means that the game cannot be released on console.
>>339840008
more like barf bag edition
>>339849056
>Why are publishers so desperate to lower their game's age rating by one year?
The same movie companies are trying to get PG 13 rating in every movie.
low rating = more people = more money
>>339849056
The reason is to filter out straight-up porn. Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony do not allow AO games on their consoles (not due to legal reasons, simply their own policies). Likewise, all major retailers refuse to stock AO games, not because it's illegal, just because they don't want to be known as "that one store that sells porn".
As for claiming it would bring the rating down to M from AO, he's lying.
>>339840008
shouldnt we be worrying about the game being good before we start worrying about anime tiddies?
>>339849463
That's no fun.
>>339849527
Why else would I want to play yet another RPG?
>>339849463
What do you think retard? It's obviously shit. No one plays these for the gameplay.
>>339849463
Going by Criminal Girls 1, it's a horribly mediocre "Disgaea-lite".
>everything is rape pls think of the virtual childrens
when will it end
>>339849710
>when will it end
When someone nukes murica
>>339847405
Post more official art.
>>339849338
>>339849341
>>339849432
If AO means porn, then there's no way that Criminal Girls would get an AO rating. It doesn't even feature explicit nudity.
>>339849705
It looked more like a standard RPG from what I saw but with some seriously shit production values. Does anyone have any webms of CG2 gameplay?
the best part is you retards are still going to buy it since the first game sold enough to localize the second one
>>339849850
>When someone nukes murica
Don't blame America; blame the "politically correct". The United States Supreme Court ruled that loli/shota porn is 100% legal in any form of media (games, art, movies, etc). They specifically said that drawn porn can never be illegal, since it's just lines and ink (or pixels). They said this is because drawings have no victim, and that's precisely why child porn is illegal in the first place (not because of the porn itself, but because an unconsenting minor was involved).
However, the UK, Canada, and many other countries can ban this stuff because they allow for "victimless" crimes. As in, certain crimes are illegal simply because the nation said so, not because it actually harms anyone.
>>339850517
I already pre-ordered the Limited Edition. Not bad for $50.
>>339850579
I don't blame the government, but the people.
And the loudest ones come from there.
>>339850732
I'm just saying, the Supreme Court (the highest law of the land in the US) ruled that it is 100% OK to sell all your loli porn in a supermarket. All the bans come from prudish retailers (Walmart, Target, K-Mart, etc) and prudish console makers (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft).
>>339844584
Proof of this? Atlus's word?
>>339850979
Atlus never provided proof. They simply said they asked for casual advice (note: not an official advisement or submission), and they were told that the 4 images "might cause issues" (keyword: might).
>say they want to make the game more consensual
>the girls already like it when getting spanked and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7K_iDVg0g
>>339850071
>explicit nudity
Rednal thinks so. Yes, he's that much of a retard.
>>339840008
>NISA makes a LE for CG2 which has game, CD, and artbook
>They also make a PE which contains LE content plus extra stuff in OP's pic
>Game is censored here in the US
What was the fucking point of NISA making a LE and PE of this game in the first place? Game is gonna flop hard and NISA is going to lose an assload of money from this. Hope they close doors soon. NISA and Nintendo of America are fucking cancer.
Good thing I have the JP LE of CG2. Fuck NISA. Also besides the artbook and CD the JP LE includes, it also comes with a blindfold/sleep mask which has one of the character's badonkadonk in your face when you put it on which NISA isn't putting in their LE or PE.
>>339850071
Adding to this, if you look through the ESRB database (available on their website), the only games rated AO have some of the following:
- Real life gambling where the player can lose money
- Extreme graphic violence
- Explicit sex
Now, does this game feature people slaughtered en masse, spilling their intestines out? Or does it have graphical depictions of pic related?
>>339851495Who's the convict?
>>339842531
It just doesn't look like that much fun. Saw some gameplay on youtube and decided to pass, though I'm all for adding another weeb game otherwise.
>>339851889
On the blindfold? Its the pink haired girl's ass(forget her name).
>>339852279
It looks pretty cool and I always wanted a Steam LE for Firefly Diary which I like. So I'm all for it. I really wish NISA just focused on games like that instead of trying to release half-assed versions of lewd games.
>>339849705
>"Disgaea-lite"
Not even in the slightest what the fuck are you talking about
>>339845215
I know I'm late to this thread but does anyone have the full image without the game case?
>>339850517
NISA has somehow managed to gain a devoted following that will defend them and buy their shit no matter what.
I assume that group is the only way they still manage to make money these days.
>>339853057
It's still quite obvious they know they won't make much from CG2, they said as much.
>>339853057
>>339853292
I don't understand this company at all.
They don't want their image to be associated with games like CG and their content, so when they bring them over they censor the hell out of them. Yet at the same time they outright state that all the hoops they jump through they impose on themselves and the chances of such games getting an AO or practically non-existent. They don't want to submit things to the ESRB because it takes "time and money", yet they shell out the cash to redraw and replace art which must take more time and money then just seeing what the ESRB would say about the original version. Not only that, but even the ESRB has said before that a lot of their fears are unfounded.
They have to be the most ass backwards company in existence.
>>339840008
Should I get the Party Bag or just the limited edition?
>>339853821
They make no fucking senses. Also it's horrifying that CG2 is going to be censored even more than CG1.
I just wish NISA would go under.
Bump.
What the hell happened to "If you dont like it, just dont buy it?" None of this matters. Their target audience are the people that bought the first game as the changes are similar. Where were the constant threads then?
None of this matters as you will not be buying it anyway (which is debatable considering Fates and Bravely Second). Fates did fine, Bravely Second did fine, and this game will do well enough with their target audience otherwise they would not both localizing it. God you anti-censorship idiots are so obnoxious. After a week, these threads will be gone because you will find another shiny object to bitch about in your echo chamber.
>>339844803
but they made it even lewder!
>>339858084
I guess people just want to hear the girls moan while we spank them in the minigame.
