What's the most useless weapon in MH, and why is it Lances?
The most useless weapon in MH is a bad hunter!
Nyantahs
>>339826813
It's insect glaive.
Not because it's bad, but because of the innate mind-controlling sentience they all have which apparently makes everyone mount all the gOD DAMN TIME.
But I like lances. Sidestepping and poking and countering is fun.
Think of a new weapon category GO
>>339826813
Sword and Shield exists
>>339827180
Don't worry, because of the aerial style in MHX everyone will be trying to mount all the god damn time instead of just Glaives.
Time to get ready for more je suis monte.
>>339826813
Sword and Shield.
>>339827345
>Rawfag
>>339827219
A corkscrew rapier that can expand to 5m or turn into a pig you swing by its tail.
>>339827219
Dual GS
>>339827219
Gauntlets, punch the shit out of monsters. Extremely close range, extremely damaging.
>>339827878
hire this man
>>339827668
How would that even work
>>339826813
Oi be careful what you say.
I mained Lances in the first and third generations, and Used them up until G rank in 4U.
Also on the first one pretty much everyone who wasn't a gunner used a lance.
>>339827409
Except Aerial Glaive lets them fly across the screen like turbo-nerds, so they'll still be going for those mounts.
Lances aren't that bad, OP. Perhaps kinda boring sometimes, but MH4 gave you leaping charges, swinging behind you, perfect evading at all times, and so-on. Anyone who says SnS doesn't know how to sleep-bomb or style-bomb and/or cannot appreciate the ridiculous versatility it offers.
The actual most useless is probably the bow, because the guns do it better, generally speaking. But the bow is still fun. Can't wait to try out how everything feels in MHG with the styles.
I lost hundreds of hours of my life to 4U. I can imagine Generations being no different.Hunting Horn a cool, Great Sword a best, Tonfas never and when's Hammer-hybrid weapon in the style of switch-axe/gun-lance/charge-blade?
Lances were the highest DPS weapon in the 3 series and are one of the highest in 4. They also have the highest skill ceiling alongside the GS and are, quite frankly, one of the funnest weapons to use in the game.
>>339828007
you wield one of them with both hands while you pivot on the other which is firmly lodged inside your anus
>>339827345
kill yourself shitter
>>339827878
God I've been dying for some manly monster punching action. If Capcpom wanted to be lazy, they could just give it a shoto character moveset and call it a day.
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>>339827878
>>339827995
Gunlance actually. Aside from the Roman memes, they're pretty awful. Hopefully they get boosted in later games.
>>339828230
those are dual blades, are you blind?
>>339827180
>JE SUIS MONTE
>JE SUIS MONTE
>JE SUIS MONTE
>JE SUIS MONTE
>>339827878
Tonfas exist but people cry about them being implemented into mainline because they're too anime for MonHun apparently.
>>339828257
I think the boost they got on MHX is very nice, allowing you to heat them up for better stabbing damage.
>>339827878
Tonkas or Tokvas or whatever they're called?
>>339827219
Small energy based katana focused on Iajutsu.
Combat is centered around performing draw attacks, when you do a draw attack your character is either
A:Stuck in a sheathing animation, if you complete the animation you get one charge, maximum of five.
B:You can perform two follow up attacks and roll out, no charge gained.
You can use charges to perform stronger individual draw attacks, or you can use all current charges to perform a draw attack that deals damage proportionate to current charges.
>>339828257
NICE ROMAN !
I want gunlance to actually have a ranged firing move. I'd love mobile mortar action. HBG siege mode is cool, but I want to use my gunlance like an artillery piece.
>>339827219
W H I P S
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>>339828110
Sadly, it stops being fun once you're in a party. I try spacing myself from other players, but they usually don't give a fuck and rush in swinging no matter where I am.
>>339828329
The main reason people complain about them (other than idiots blatantly forgetting how anime every other weapon is) is because they're unbelievably overpowered compared to every other weapon in Frontier, and they're also the only one locked behind a level-cap. So once you unlock tonfas, you use only tonfas.
Lances are pretty neato actually.
>>339828437
>short long sword which is even more an anime than LS
>>339828383
That's great actually. I'll try them out again once we get MHX. I have a lot of really good GL from guild quests but always choose other weapons.
Maybe you fags are tri babies and forgot that lances were top tier in first game. The only weapon that was consistently not that great was sns.
>>339828583
It's about as anime as greatsword crit draw.
>>339828570
get yer godamn chinese bootlegs out this thread
>>339828640
Ironically, Lances were at their absolute peak in Tri.
It's the strongest in MHX, but only because its self buff HA is ridiculously good.
>>339828583
There's a SnS in MHX which has a katana and the shield model is just a nearly-invisible ring on your finger. The anime dream is real friend.
>>339828640
your post is irrelevant, no one plays the original monhun
>>339828848
I'd rather play the first one than the casual hunter that's coming out.
>>339828841
was the LS round house slash not enough jesus christ
>>339828928
i feel sorry for you
>>339827219
This is going to sound boring, but I think a non-transforming Great Axe could be a good addition. Long reach and good for cutting tails. CA likes to be on head with impact phial and swax never really felt like either mode with satisfying and its power lies in constant mode switching.
If I had to go for a WACKY CRAZY weapon then I'd want a polearm/kusarigama hybrid.
>>339826917
First post best post
There are no bad weapons in Mh
>>339828096
>The actual most useless is probably the bow, because the guns do it better, generally speaking. But the bow is still fun. Can't wait to try out how everything feels in MHG with the styles.
Are you stupid or something? Bow is beyond broken in MHX, to the point that it outdamages even GS. It was also in the top 5 in MH4U in terms of speedrun times.
>>339829046
That's nice friend. I reciprocate the notion.
>>339829103
uw8 m8, bow is slow in 4U
>>339826813
Gunlance is the correct answer. It's probably top 2 for me in terms of time spent playing it, but the sheer weakness, lack of mobility, and number of moves that can be used to send teammates flying gives it the title of most useless.
>>339827219
A mount.
You ride a creature and attack using the creature, rather than having a weapon.
>>339827219
God damn Boomerang
I want to go full Abo on monsters.
>>339829245
>monster hunter stories
>>339826917
>>339829098
This. I just recently started with a friend and told them to do the trainings til then found a weapon that clicked. They tried SnS, lance, DB and felt frustrated, but they liked the bugstick. I cringed, but held my tongue. I decided to go LS after a CA focus on my main hunter and I found I liked. I think my friend does IG better than I do LS. They do good with their mounts and don't spam it in bad situations, yet I keep tripping them on accident with my edgy spirit combo.
It's all about how you play it.
>>339829202
Check the JP speedruns. using Steve bow (with a proper skills) gives you top tier hunt times.
>using any bow but Steve
I bet you also use SnS that isn't Teostra with the Empress set.
>>339827219
>>339829245
Actually changed my mind
Beastmaster
You pick from a monster type and get a couple of them. You can order them to locations or targets on monsters. They take damage and get wounded (or die) if you let them get hit.
Would be fun. Having to make sure you keep them alive as well as keeping yourself alive.
>>339827219
I've always wanted a 2handed spear that would be about mobility and agility. Too bad it overlaps with the retarded inscet glaives now.
>>339827219
A cannon. Its gimmick is basically HH, where you have 4 different shots that can be chained to activate distinct powerful attacks, instead of a song. I say cannon, but it's really more of a fireworks kind of thing.
>>339827219
A penis
You fuck monsters with it
>>339830275
now this i can get behind
>>339827495
Milky Holmes director spotted.
Gunlance is just a worse lance with some explosions.
And I use GL somewhat frequently
Where do I start to get into MH
>>339830552
either get mh4u or wait for generations
>>339830552
Pick up one of the games. 3U or 4U might be best, or you can just wait until X comes out
Slog through the tutorial
Find a weapon you like
Hunt some actual monsters
Have fun
>tfw Mainline MH is doomed to be forever stuck on shit handhelds with garbage resolution and textures
FUCKING KILL ME ALREADY
>>339827219
Shield Arms. Giant fists that can fold into a shield if you hold a button. Has guard points during the first few frames of blocking. If a monster hits the guard point, you get to charge one phial and you can charge a total of three. If you attack after the guard point, you use your phials to do an uppercut. One Phial gets a short uppercut. Two Phials gives you a jumping uppercut. Three Phials give you an uppercut that ends with you slamming your fists to the ground. Your regular attacks move you a lot, which is why you can side step/dash in every direction to reposition yourself and you can only block while you're not doing anything or after a sidestep/dash.
>>339830552
Just pick up whatever the latest one is. They put basically every monster and weapon from previous games in each one, so you're really not missing out on anything.
>>339830552
I suggest 4U, since Gen's 30 fps cap and giant battle ui might put you off. I know I am, and I kinda like the game.
>>339827219
Something like Nevan from DMC3. A more offensive version of the Hunting Horn
>>339827219
Make throwing knives its own weapon category. You get a max amount of knives that regenerate as you spend them. Knives that have hit the monster can be retreived instantly, but you have to get close to that knife-filled ass and pull them out, which makes the monster fucking pissed at you.
I thought that each individual knife would do less damage than a single LBG regular shot (although you can spam like crazy), but depending on how many knives you have you can combine several of them into one throw. If you use the attack that uses your max amount of knives and botch it, you're gonna look pretty stupid.
Maybe there could be like a combo system where if you land X knives on the head, Y knives on the wings and Z knives on the legs, then the monster just explodes with red mist for a lot of damage and maybe a status effect.
>>339830758
>i'm poor and can't afford a 3ds
4U is my first MH, I've soloed most of it and currently sitting on an almost 100% Guild Card. Capcom's spring sale has 3U cheap, is it worth it? Will I be able to complete the game by myself or is there multiplayer content required? What about past DLCs?
>>339830446
>Have to position to the rear or head for beefy dick hits
>Spirit guage like the LS
>Tripping people with your Diablos horn codpiece
>Mounting monsters get a little more interactive
>Black Diablos fights are actually interesting
>Butt fucking a rathian while rathalos is stuck in a pitfall trap
>>339828383
they nerfed the shell damage so unless you it's actually a damage loss overall, with styles it doesn't matter though the game because easy as fuck and every weapon is way too strong
>>339831065
>Inflicting Bleed on Monster parts
>Doing HP percentage damage to make up for lower DPS than the LBG/HBG
>Regenerating Knives
>>339831229
I'll take a fuckign picture of my 3DS right now you cunt, I just hate that I can't play MH on an actual fucking platform.
>>339831275
>cuck a rathalos
can i use a black diablos cod piece for this?
MH4U weapon tier reminders.
If you're butthurt about hammer's placement, move it up one place.
>>339831335
anon you can just play mho with english patch if you're so bothered about pretty grafix
>>339831564
It's not just the shitty resolution, it's the tiny babby screen and how uncomfortable it is to play on that piece of shit.
The 3DS hurts my hands like a fucking toblerone.
>>339831531
>Carried the hunt tier
>HBG
Shit. What? I never feel like I really do anything with my HBG
>>339831764
oh so you can't afford a new 3ds xl then
>>339828708
>not knowing about monster hunter online
Its legit
>>339831335
me too. My most complains about 3ds MH is screen resolution and hand tiring (the bottom part of 3ds is just NOT comfortable for long plays, speaking about both XL and regular sizes)
>>339831829
Fuck off with this shitty meme, I'm not eating Nintendo's shit and buying a SLIGHTLY larger 3DS that's going to keep being uncomfortable anyways.
HANDHELDS ARE FUCKING SHIT
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>339831774
Furia Sedition for solo/most group quests. It's a great all-purpose HBG that reloads a shot with every roll. Honed for attack, and some skills added, it deals a ton of damage.
There's also Gravios Gigacanon for hame runs. It shreds monsters if used properly.
>>339831849
it's still a shitter version of monster hunter frontier
>>339827219
I always had this idea for a rapier weapon, but it was hard to not make it SnS without the shield. So then I thought "what if the rapier is just the end result of using a weapon?"
Then I saw my old yoyo while cleaning out the attic. Then it hit me. A spinning Axe.
>Short Range like the Hammer
>Has a gauge that you need to charge with your slow attacks
>Once the gauge is at least halfway full, you can throw the head of the axe at the monster
>Spins in place at the part it landed at
>Full Gauge lets it stay in place for ten seconds, doing one attack per second
>Aiming it at the head with an impact/status phial does what you'd expect it to
>"String" becomes a long rapier that lets you do thrust attacks that move you forward like a dash with sidestep canceling mid-animation
>Have to recall your axe manually if you don't want to go through a long animation of reattaching it
Basically youLet it Ripafter charging and you commit yourself to loads of burst damage in exchange for your regular mode not having consistent damage.
Speaking of MHO, I see they made a monster that's essentially Fatalis and Alatreon combined. I don't know what I think about this. Also hitboxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmxQYzyvKzI
>>339831982
>slightly larger
well it says here on my limited edition pikachu edition 3ds xl (worth over £300 boxed) that the screen is 300% bigger
>>339831829
any handheld have a tiny little screen
>>339832217
And you're 300% fucking stupid for buying that piece of shit, you faggot.
>>339832263
too true
>>339829394
well your fucking fault for choosing the wrong sword
>>339832164
Brutal/10 would hunt with
>>339832168
That looks awful, the new animations look like shit and that tracking reminds me of Dark Souls II Lava Lizards
>>339832292
the tears of the poor make me drunk with joy
>>339829394
why are you hitting the monster when they are mounted
>>339830762
This, I fucking love the idea of fighting with dual shields
>>339832426
Not him, but it looks funky partially due to having 300+ ping thanks to Chinese servers.
>>339832063
>nintendo shit is better
Casualized to fucking hell with graphics so bad you want to puke shit isnt really a step up, anon.
after portable 3rd the series went to shit. yoshinori fucked real fans of the series in the ass and the chinks some how manage to revive this shit for me. Seriously i have been playing that shit i am almost level 35 and so far this shit is great and not to mention a fucking english patch came out making the game at least somewhat playable and mind you i was playing since before the fucking english patch came out. The servers are somewhat laggy sometimes but that's only at night and the fucking weapon arts are sexy as fuck.
try it out before you knock it will you?
>>339832043
I usually just run Empress' Doublefleur with Normal up. I'll give the fuira one a shot.
>>339832292
I don't have comfort problems, and you do. Go be mad somewhere else.
>>339832567
Not him but I did try it out
The difference between the Nintendo versions and the online version is that nintendo actually allows you to play the game and doesn't have a quest limit
>>339832480
>DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL BUYERS REMORSE BUYERS REMORSE BUYERS REMORSE.
>>339832341
Sorry anon I wanted to try something new forfunand Ilike it
>>339832480
I'm sorry m8, gr8 b8 but you cant call someone poor for not wanting to buy a 3ds xl.
Thats literal pocket money
>>339832504
No I'm tripping them on the ground, not knocking them off a mount. I'm bad, not stupid.
>>339826813
Stages of an average hunter.
>Picks one weapon, usually a defensive but basic one such as the lance, S&S.
>Starts trying out specific weapons for specific hunts. Might bring a hammer to a barroth fight, or try a LS against a Kecha Wacha. At this point they discover that there's a utility in learning how to use different weapons.
At this stage, generally they go down two stages.
>Let's try something different, a bow, or a light bowgun!
or
>Let's try more of what we know, but something more exotic: Gunlance, daggers, GS
Both eventually come back to
>Okay I now have a good toolkit of weapons I know how to use, but what I do really fucking like? I'll specialize in that.
If you've been playing long enough, you will almost certainly be procifcient in nearly every weapon, its easier to pick weapons that you refuse to touch more than your favourite. People also tend to differ between solo and multiplay. I'll bring a LS to plenty of solo hunts but it stays firmly in my trousers during multiplay.
Feel free to completely disagree. The key point is that the person who only EVER uses one weapon type is either new or shit, and the guy who can use all of them but often sticks to one is fucking serious.
>>339832567
>quest limit
>supporting league of legends
>massive lag
>moonrunes
since you have all convinced me mhX is going to be trash I get there's nothing left.
I'm done with monster hunter
>>339832703
>buy it in 2012 for 150
>can sell for £200-400
i feel no remorse i can give nintendo more of my neet bux
>>339826813
>Not hunting hurn
>>339832721
>babbys first anime weapon
>i wanted to try something new
aaaaitei didn't mean to offend, every weapon is great and i commend you for switching, my wife plays only dual blades for like two gens and I cannot convince her to try smth new no matter what. She hasnt even tried other weaps aside from memehorn which she didnt like
>>339827878
That's basically the dual blades isn't it?
>>339832906
I'll fuckin hurt you m8
There are few things more pleasant than KOing with a Hunting Hornfor instance KOing with guard point CB
>>339828329
They are. Gauntlets and Tonfas are too anime/power fantasy
>b-b-but every other weapon is anime/power fantasy
No, they aren't. The only one that fits that is GS and possibly hammer. And both of these weapons the hunter has extreme difficulty using and has to take advantage of gravity to swing and have long periods of downtime.
We don't need a guy wearing huge fists swinging them fast enough to punch monsters in the face. It's dumb. It's something that belongs in toukiden.
>>339832864
>listening to /v/there is also stories which looks good, but is never coming here
>>339832567
i dont want to become part of mao's bot net thx
>>339828797
Striker buffs the Lance charge finisher significantly too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9X-8K7s390
>>339826982
As far as TA goes, Nyantas sometimes perform better than some weapons.
>>339828383
It would actually improve GL if they didn't nerf poking damage for the mechanic. On red it's 5% more poking damage compared to 4U.
>>339831774
Try Limiter-Off Destiny's Arm and Limiter-On Gravios Gigacannon for Pierce, and Livid Griscannon for Normal. Furia Sedition is definitely a nice one too
>>339828640
Lances were top tier in tri you clown.
Try playing the series
>>339832657
Not him but the Quest limit isn't that bad. So far my complaints are how clunky the weapons feel and how the new monsters aren't that great. Not gonna lie though, best adaptation of Kut Ku yet
And clunkiness might just be ping on my end but
>it's just a beta!
ect, ect
Everyone be aware that Portable 3rd has the best quest clear themes in all of the Monster Hunter franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnAKMpxr1gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySS0CC1Kv8o
If anyone posts saying they prefer the quest clear themes of any of the other games I ask that you please understand that they are blatantly shitposting and that their posts should be hidden and ignored.
>>339832164
>you reattach the head by attacking it with the rapier
could be cool and extremely confusing in group hunts
>take a trip to jaban
>go on a ride on a train or whatever they're called there
>5 local lobbies
god bless portables
>>339832943
Part of it is once you find something that works for you it's hard to get into the habits of another weapon and do well.
I chose a different weapon partly for fun, but also because I didn't want to carry so they learn. Good hunting habits go a long way. I just happened to enjoy playing something new to boot.
>>339831849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhtUb28kaqM
>>339833061
>Super mega big slab of iron/cursed animal parts in the form vaguely reminiscing of a sword
>HONORABURU KATENA FOLDED 999999999 TIMES
>A huge ass hammer bagpipe guitar thing
>Huge two form weapon that switches freely between axe and great sword and has a super cannon blast finishing attack
>Lance that breaks down in the middle for compact storage and fires explosions that have infinite ammo as long as you impposibly recharge forever
>A huge ass hammer
>Sword and big shield that charges with attacks and combines with the big shield to creat a big axe that fires the charges in the form of elemental/striking bomb pellets and can do a super finishing mega attack to use them all at once
>Two swords that use the power of demons and you become possesed while using and you might as well become a dancer while using them
>Huge lance and impossibly big shield
Yeah, I know that feel, bro. Monster Hunter is too realistic for the tonfas.Just balance them and put them in mainline, whatever.
>>339827219
Polearms like spears or harpoons which can be swung around like a long sword, stabbing action like lances and even for throwing then retrieving using a line attached to the hunter.
>>339833293
shit taste, classic or go home.
That calm tune makes it feel like a tough battle was conquered instead of bombastic shit that's gone on since MH2
>>339826813
Lance is probably the best weapon in Gen if TAs are any indication. Lance was great in gen 1. Gunlance has always been trash as far as I can remember.
>>339833761
My friend you have been tossed by hammers and switch axes one too many times, you are confused. Portable 3rd's quest clear themes are soft, relaxing, and triumphant all at once. Unlike the overly loud and energetic themes from MH2, MH Tri, 3U, and 4U.
>>339833657
What about a whip pole arm similar to Mistral's weapon?
Or a moveset similar to FW? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJCZXLfLMc8
>Sword & Shield
>Its shield is shitty
>>339834070
it's functional
>>339833121
>Guild Lance charge finisher: 50
>Striker Lance charge finisher: 70
Disgustingly OP.
>>339827219
the boomerang concept they were toying around with during X's development looked great. Hefty up close but can be flung for massive damage.
Best monster
Best armor
Worst subspecies
>>339833617
No. You're trying your absolute hardest to elaborate weapon descriptions to make them sound anime.
Katana are a normal weapon. Hammers are a normal weapon. GS are a normal weapon. All practical weapons that are exaggerated for a video game. And I'll reiterate once again, the hunters have great difficulty wielding the GS and the hammer. So I don't know how you expect them to wield giant fist gauntlets with the ease to punch without it seeming out of place.
Everything else you explained is just mechanical technology which fits in perfect with MH primitive/industrial tech theme. I don't understand how it's anime. Those things for the universe, gauntlets do not.
Just play toukiden
>>339834332
Wtf fighting Narja is literally the fucking worst
>>339834332
absolute worst monster
>>339834416
Hit its little hind feet, it trips super easy. You'll knock it down over and over really quickly and easily. Those little feet are super weak and then you can hit its face.
>>339834403
As far as I remember the tonfas aren't even giant.
People fucking bitched for months about how Charge Blade is too fucking anime you retarded idiot. And don't make me fucking start going on about the Insect Glaive, that shits design and basic idea is pure cancer.
Point is. It's a fucking game about monsters that fire meteors. Who gives a fucking shit about your perception of realism in the game.
>>339834540
>trip him
>by the time I reach his head he already got up
fun
>>339834653
>Who gives a fucking shit
(You)
>>339834812
>>339834332
How to fix Najarala
1: Remove the fucking nudge damage on it.
Seriously, it is the only monster that has a shape so awkward that it absolutely doesn't need nudge damage. It should still be able to trip you from moving but nothing more
>>339834540
He gets up way too quick man. Then he gets you in his stupid circle trap and paralyzes you
>>339834653
It's not about realism. It's about consistency in theme and universe. I'm sorry you don't have an argument and have to result to the "who cares" point.
If Tonfas/gauntlets are small then fine, they sort of fit. It's still a dumb impractical weapon that a hunter wouldn't use but if they're a reasonable size they don't break any of the universes rules.
>Watch a TA video of a Deviljho hunt
>Guy goes for his legs
>He's constantly tripping over and over
>Try going for his legs constantly myself to get some trips
>Just get staggers most of the time
>>339834416
Nah, OG Naja is managable. The worst thing he does is that fuckhuge lunge he does from across the map. I can never get the timing on that right.
Tidal Naja can fuck off with its weird fucking armor.
>>339834726
Eithermount himor wait until he does his snapping attack. I think every three snaps his head stays still so you can get a couple of hits in. His beak shatters pretty easily and then he'll be KOd for a while. I've also stunned him by just bonking his tail for a while.
>>339834653
At least insect glaive and charge last make some kind of sense. It's dumb to think a hunter could punch a monster hard enough to hurt it
>>339829212
Found the pleb.
>>339834403
GS is really a fast weapon though.
>>339835116
If he's in rage mode he won't trip
What's a good low rank (hr. 2 in the guild) armor set for the ds in MHP3RD? Can't manage to find a hint on the internet.
>>339828437
DevilMayCry/10
I'd use it if only because of how fun it sounds.
>>339830762
Bashing Monster with a shield? Sign me the fuck up. I want Ryu's Gloves as a weapon so I can Shin Shoryuken a Monster.
>>339831065
It feels a little mindless, but if each Knife weapon had a cap on how many knives you can carry, that would be cool. Also, it would be a cool way to introduce a new a status effect with that red mist idea
>>339832164
Do you throw the axe head from afar or do you have land it at close range? Either way, it sounds like fun and I imagine that ripping the rapier out of the head would look cool and feel extremely satisfying.
>>339834253
It looks cool and the jumping part where you fly with the boomerang looks like it would be better than the IG. I actually want a boomerang now.
>>339835343
Jaggi
>>339832703
>DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL
The one you're doing for your hands that apparently can't hold a 3DS for more than 10 minutes?
>>339835379
Seriously?
>>339835280
It is not.
>>339835036
When he does that, just don't fucking move until you're sure he's gonna attack. Keep an eye on the exit and the moment he rears up his head for the bite, run like fucking hell. Honestly that attack can be unavoidable sometimes if you fight him near a wall, since he might decide to just place the exit right into it and double fuck you.
>>339835436
Yes, and when you get access to Los, you mix Los and Jaggi.
>>339828640
>In the first game
The first game was so unbelievably broken, the best SnS in the game did more damage per swing than the best GS. And GS couldn't even charge.
>>339835462
It is though
>>339835520
Thanks. And what dual sword do you recommend (I've never played with them)?
>>339831065
Now I want that with a CHECKMATE hunter art
>>339829394
>I cringed
Only a faggot makes fun of hunters for their decisions.
You can cringe if he doesn't mix his juices right, though. My friend was IG and he didn't know about juices until he fought his first diablos.
I don't even know how he got that far without them.
>>339835282
And I just have to keep slapping his shit as usual until he's not angry? He also seems to be one of the fastest to get enraged.
>>339835436
P3rd Jaggi armor has attack up, does it not? Few extra gems and you get AuM.
Attack Up provides an additive amount of raw damage. It's pretty good throughout the game but is most potent early in the game.
>>339835636
You are on your own there, I never used DB in P3rd
>>339827219
Flails
We need more range weapons. We need it.
>>339835116
Get a poison weapon and melt his shit
>>339834253
If it's A+X was a diagonal throw to hit monsters in the air I would be very happy
>>339835752
Flail designs always appear in the art books, a bit sad to see it never adapted. I guess it would be too hard to not make it impact SnS, especially now that SnS can KO with sword strikes
>>339827219
Kusarigama. You have to maintain the correct distance with your wide, arcing swings otherwise you'll hit with just the chain and do shit damage.
>>339835953
I'm not entirely having trouble with Jho himself, just trying to deliberately trip him over so I can hit his stomach. Since holy shit he likes to move his head around a lot when he's down.I barely passed The Master's Test by the skin of my teeth with GS
>>339836190
Situational use of chain to get trips? If you use it on something like 200% mad Jho, you're probably going on a ride instead.
>>339827219
A big ass Harpoon! It would have a big ass chain attached to it as well and would be like a GS equivalent for ranged weapons. It would work around landing big charge attacks and then ripping the harpoon back out of the monster for additional damage. I thought some kind of mechanic like impeding the monsters movement by holding the chain or yanking down a fatigued monster with the chain while the harpoon is in them would be neat but I don't know if a system like that would be too complicated.
Did you use SnS? I'd like to try it, seems fun
>>339836997
SnS is great man, try it
The double jumping slash off ledges they added in 4 is fucking awesome and something no other weapon can do
>>339836687
>too complicated
Freedom Wars did it and even has PvP.
>>339826813
>he never played MHFU
Fuck off
>>339837136
But then again I don't know what to use. Wouldn't you have a website with tutorials or stuff like that?
>>339828640
Oh boy, I love how the attacks are all mapped to the right control stick and the camera controls are garbage as a result! Because that's fun, r-r-right?
>>339836391
Yeah, hitting his head while he's down is a nightmare. Not a lot of fun blowing a fully charged GS by standing too close and being pushed away by his flailing snout.
There are some other ways to hit him on the jaw,though. If he starts munching on one of your cats/other hunters you can get some good hits in while he buries his face into the ground. And if the Jho isn't too big, you can just smack his head while he's standing up, since he's constantly adjusting himself to face you. One time I fought a mini crown Jho with SnS and I just destroyed that jaw without even using ledges.
>>339832906
>not liking when your damage jumps from 1700 to 2000+
HH users are bros, I don't even care if they don't hit the monster. Just don't die and you're set.
>>339833293
I don't like 3rd gen but yes, quest clear themes were GOAT.
>>339837382
Try this
>>339836997
It's kinda nice. If you don't like how ultra-aggressive you have to be with DB but still want some good mobility and fast attacks it's the next best thing. Unlike DB though you do need a good bit of raw to compliment whatever status or element you intend on using. It's not entirely all element, status, or raw. You need a good balance.
After the backhop attack, X+A lunge, or R+X attack, most use the stationary XXAA combo for best effect with the odd extra A thrown in for the finisher. I don't think a lot use the backhop but it can be nice. In 4U it's probably the 2nd best mounting weapon but of course please be sensible about it.
>>339837382
For 4U, /mhg/ has this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GMx1s0P8zszxpBbKLjOE-qgq5td8XDidsJHNmTqo0T8/pubhtml#
The Molten Tigrex SnS thankfully doesn't require a Dire Blastheart. You could awaken it if you wish, but if you want something to practice with there's a start.
>>339836997
SnS is the real fun spam weapon screw dual blades.
why does everyone hate the long sword
>one of the highest raw damage weapon type
>quick
>spirit buffs at 20% damage
>fade slash
it's basically the best weapon
>>339836997
Open combos with R+X, never use the final attack on the X combo.
That really is all there is to it, the new backhop is sort of decent? It's more for style and quick spacing if you fuck up
My only complaint with SNS is how their attacks feel like a wet noodle. Sure, it's fun to continually hack and slash and dash but the swings have no weight behind them at all. I mean, look at weapons like the CB - tiny tiny pauses inbetween swings makes them feel heavy and the dust clouds, explosions, and flashes makes them feel strong.
>>339838594
hits like a wet noodle
spirit buff is a pain in the dick to keep up on some monsters
slow
shitty GS tier side roll
fade slash is ok I guess
>>339838830
but the wet noodle attacks do shit tons of raw
>>339838968
they also have shit motion values
>>339838594
Very disruptive to allies, attracts retards, in 4u it's pretty mediocre due to the changes to the spirit gauge.
>>339838594
Mostly because people don't like getting tripped by shitters with longswords online
Only reason you don't hear about it much anymore is because of JE SUIS MONTE being the new shitters to complain about.
>>339826813
>MH
>Useless weapons
the only weapon I forego is the dual swords because they're too monotonous
>>339827219
portable cannon (it's a mortar you walk around with and it has some hammer like moves up close)
>>339838640
That's one of my favourite aspects of the CB, the heft behind the attacks.
>>339839170
Tri gave Longsword an awful rep, I never see newbies pick it up anymore. LS is basically a vet's weapon choice now
I want more ranged weapons. Maybe another shifter. Dual blades = dual bowguns????
>>339839303
LS was kind of fun with status effects, the moveset is a okay, I prefer gunlance and hammer for versatility
>>339839543
How are those weapons versatile?
The gunlance is too slow to keep up online when the monster is moving all over the place. Also knockbacks.
The hammer is mobile and has a decent moveset but can't cut tails and HAS to be on the head at all times.
>>339839839
more dynamic moveset
the stun, the slower moves and slightly faster ones makes it easier getting a lot of damage in specific openings
the LS has more even damage output compared to them and less chance for opportunities
and cutting tails well yes the hammer doesn't do that but that's only a problem when you need tail components
R+A combo path on Longsword when? If styles get removed in future titles, I still want the upward Spirit Slash to stay in some form
