ITT objectively bad video game design choices for which there is no reasonable excuse
>unskippable cut scenes
Addressing the player directly, fucking with the controls/UI/files, and any and all other forms of "clever" fourth-wall-breaking metashit.
>>339819325
>new game+
>new game ++
>new game ++++++++++
If you want us to play more, make the game longer...
Forced walking sequence, be it 'cause your character is injured or because he's escorting someone, fuck this shit
On-Disc DLC
>>339819934
I thought that was pretty neat before every other indiejam game started doing it
>>339819325
Swimming
>>339819934
>muh immersion
Yeah fuck you.
Limited Lives, not including perma-death
>>339819325
>player has to follow NPC
>NPC moves slower than player's run speed
>NPC moves faster than player's walk speed
Long animations in menus.
Everything in Current WoW
Including but not limited to:
>let's give them a realtime facebook area. That should tide them over for 2 years.
>lowering the skill ceiling
>raising the skill floor
>all because shitters refuse to learn to play video games
every fucking time. pve/single player babbies should be fucking shot
>Can't pause cutscenes
>>339819325
>FFX gets released six different times
>None of them fix this
Weapon durability
>>339819325
>mandatory tutorial
>mandatory tutorial on Hard difficulty
>mandatory tutorial on NG+
>attacks that stunlock
>forced stealth section in an action game
>forced action section in a stealth game
>>339822632
You're right, MGS is pretty awful.
>regenerating health
>>339822632
>game lets you choose multiple solutions to every problem (stealth/action/talking/whatever)
>there's at least one section where you NEED to use one specific approach in order to progress
>your character isn't built for that approach/you don't have the right items for that approach
>can't change controller settings
>>339822749
Depends on the particularities of the game and its implementation of regenerating health.
>Getting a game over in battle in a rpg if your main character gets knocked out while you still have other party members up
>Randomly generated dungeon
>>339821772
It's a neat concept I suppose, but in practice it just doesn't work at all. Why/How am I supposed to be spooked by a pixelly walking simulator making a text file or opening a YouTube video?
>>339822632
That stealth mission in Red Faction was such bullshit. You can't even switch weapons so if you run out of ammo for the silenced pistol, you're fucked.
>>339823287
Kill yourself
>>339823273
Wrong
>>339823145
>Dying in a battle the characters lose anyway gets you a game over
>>339823145
>he doesnt build for vitality in every game
>>339823440
Only after you defend it
>>339822806
This is a massive pain for stella glow
>>339819325
My "favorite":
>only option during a mission is surrender/give up, can't retry or even go to the main menu
It's like they're forcing you to go through the FAILED... screen
>>339823572
Defend what? Randomly generated dungeons? Maybe first you should explain why they're "objectively" bad.
People in this thread don't seem to know what "objectively" means. Unskippable cut scenes are objectively bad because they cannot make the game better. At best, they don't change the player's experience (i.e., when the player wants to watch the cut scenes). In every other case, they can only serve to make the game worse. There is no possible benefit.
You not liking some game with procedural generation does not make procedural generation inherently bad.
>PC port with keyboard only menu
Bonus point for bizarre and unchangeable key bindings
>win a fight that's meant to be unwinable due to how hard it is at that stage in the game
>game doesn't acknowledge that you won
>just triggers the "you/your party are on the floor bleeding while the bad guy laughs at your loss" cutscene and moves on with the game
>getting shot covers your eyeballs in jam
>>339821085
Fuck the Intro of MGSV. Killed all replayability for me
>>339823463
Wrong
>>339823273
SuperDuperWrong
Inventory/equipment weight
>>339822349
>playing Multiplayer games
go back to fucking twitch comments you fucking newfag
>>339824494
Hoarder detected
>>339823948
I can't think of a single game that pulled radomly generated dungeons better than actually designed dungeons, bet it a Elder Scrolls that start repeating their layout patterns and gets old pretty fast or a Persona that has absolutely nothing going on for them, so yeah, having random dungeons for the sake of quantity over quality does drop the quality of the game
It's the same reason why playin the special stage in Sonic 3 & Knuckles is always more satisfying than playing Blue Spheres
>built-in FPS lock in a PC game
>can't be unlocked or game breaks when you unlock it
And almost as bad,
>unlocked FPS in a PC game
>no optional FPS lock
>no Vsync option
>game runs at 1000 fps and burns up the GPU without intervention from other software
Just because it can be fixed doesn't mean it isn't shit.
>>339823420
Asking that question isn't proof of why it's an inexcusably bad design choice though.
>>339819325
U.
Fucking.
Play.
>>339822681
>forced stealth and action segments in an adventure game
>>339824494
Nah it make sense for balance reasons, look at the Souls series, it would be fucking broken if everyone would be wielding greatsword+greatshield, have full heavy armour and still be able to quick roll, it would make every other weapon and armour type borderline useless.
>>339824615
bent tin cans need a home too you know
>>339822632
>forced stealth section in a card-game game
>Turret segment
These things only range from tedious to infuriating.
>>339824628
>I can't think of a single game that pulled radomly generated dungeons
That doesn't make it inherently or objectively bad unless you can prove logically that low quality follows directly from randomness or procedural generation. So far you're just giving me opinions.
And unlike the things listed here >>339819325 and here >>339822385 and here >>339822806 and >>339824087, randomly generated dungeons actually have a potential benefit: replay value.
>harder difficulties do nothing except increase monster/boss health bars
>not a matter of using different strategies or using more items
>just increases length of battle/amount of clicking
>>339823273
What kind of gigantic faggot posts like this? It adds nothing to the discussion!
>>339824628
>something isn't as good as something else
>that makes it inexcusable
Alright, have fun with bordeborderline personality disorder.
>no option to invert the camera
>no shadow under the player while jumping in a 3D platformer
>>339825040
Someone harvesting all of three (you)s.
>>339819325
>JRPG
>Party is forced to split
>Have to use characters you never chose who are low level against monsters that will clearly destroy them
>>339822430
This is what stops me from running No Sphere Grids like once a month.
>>339819325
>"skip" promt constantly visible in all cut-scenes on first playthrough
>Game doesn't tell you the point of no return
>Escort missions where the escort can die and can't defend itself
>Missing quests because time limit (dead rising)
>female mc's walk like male mc during cutscenes
>>339824929
Yet, out of all the other opinions in the thread like >>339823145 >>339822749 >>339822601 and >>339821956, mine is the one that triggers you to the point of spitting out a "kill yourself"? You're looking slightly triggered
>>339825019
I fucking hate this.
Also:
You die and respawn. The enemies stay dead/keep their low hp from the previous battle.
It's like I'm being treated like a retard.
>>339819325
Voiced protagonist.
having massively overleveled enemies inside dungeons that are easy to find at a low level.
>>339825606
>assumptions
Bring something better.
>>339825631
>You die and respawn. The enemies stay dead/keep their low hp from the previous battle.
>It's like I'm being treated like a retard.
O god, this. Bioshock became so fucking boring when I realized that the fastest way to kill a big daddy is to lead him to a respawn station and just keep dying.
>>339825019
The racing equivalent they pulled off in F-Zero GX was
>Harder difficulties requiry you to do the exact exact same. Only faster.
That was some bullshit in an otherwise cool game.
>>339822632
>forced action section in a stealth game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNUeDhRYDNk
literally one of the best "levels" in vidya
you're generally right ofc
>>339819934
Its overdone at this point, used to be cool though. Nowadays you've gotta be subtle about it, no actual talking directly to the player.
>>339825984
also, yeah, DCoE isn't really a stealth game.
>>339825868
Hmmmm.
I wish you hadn't told me that.
>>339825696
I can dig it in adventure games. When they're really well written and directed.
Issue with most voice acting in general is that the lines are just trash to begin with, and there's no proper director present at recording.
>>339822193
You are fucking retarded
>>339822804
Man im so glad DEHR got the directors cut. "You like pineapples kid?" Is still burned into my brain. I had to hit that fucker with every single explosive in the room dead on to beat him.
>>339819325
>dashing permanently decreases maximum health
>cutscene
>walk a few feet
>trigger another cutscene
What is the point of this?
>>339826191
It's a classic, though.
Fucking Morrowind.
>>339819325
>checkpoints before unskippable cutscenes before a boss battle
>>339826252
What? Who ever did that?
>>339826252
What game does something stupid like that?
>>339820380
This.
I love souls games but this is bullshit beyond belief
>>339819325
In the same category:
Game has dialogue.
Can't skip the text crawl and voice acting to speed it up.
>>339825079
>Camera isn't mouse or analog stick driven
>locked frame rate
>>339824889
>forced racing section in a card-game game
Fuck you Konami that's not why we bought the game
>>339826191
Why are you calling him retarded?
How is a mandatory follow-the-character sequence, in which the other character has faster-than-walking but slower-than-running movement speed, not an absolutely perfect example of exactly what this thread was created to discuss?
Are you defending it? If you are, you're retarded.
Are you implying this doesn't happen in video games? If you are, you're retarded.
>>339824636
7000FPS on the STALKER Call of Pripyat main menu, damn that coil whine
>>339820380
Viewtiful Joe, I'm looking at you.
>>339826532
Not really a game design choice.
>>339826404
>>339826443
Lunar: Dragon Song
>>339822749
Depends on the game, but man I hate this shit most of the time.
>>339819325
>survival games where picking up ammo/items is automatic when you run over them
>action games where picking up ammo/items requires a button press, sometimes requiring the player to look at the item first
>>339826793
It's done so you can catch up to an NPC if you're dicking around along the way.
>>339826723
What the hell? Which fucking Yugioh game feels the need to add a racing section?
>>339826191(You)
>>339826191
Why am I wrong? If an NPC walks at that speed then you constantly have to run forward about 10 paces and wait, and then run another 10 paces and wait.
It's much more irritating than being able to move at a constant speed.
>boss heals
>>339827181
A good programmer who's concerned about this might just have the NPC stop and wait instead of ruining the experience for the player who doesn't dick around by forcing that player to alternately run, walk, run, walk, run, walk.
Following sequences are trash anyway. If it's not gameplay, then it should be a skippable cut scene. You must be a game journalist if you think "hold W for a few minutes while this guy talks" is the good part of a game.
>>339827181
Well then have the NPC just walk at the player's walking speed instead of forcing the player to do >>339827241
>>339827181
But if your running speed is faster you can do that just fine while having the same walking speed
>>339819325
>get massively overpowered weapon for only one section/level of the the game
Bonus points if it's at the final level of the game
>>339827306
I can dig a boss healing his minions, or the minions healing themselves or each-other. But the minions healing the boss, or the boss even healing himself? Gross.
>>339827181
???
Did you understand nothing of the proposed conundrum?
>>339826470
What? It's just an option. You can never touch the game again after one playthrough.
>>339827319
>forcing that player to alternately run, walk, run, walk, run, walk.
Or, depending on the game: walk, stop, walk, stop, walk, stop.
In any case, having the NPC move at walking speed would be sufficient to allow the player to catch up in any game in which the player can both walk and run, and having the NPC stop and wait for a straggling player would be sufficient in any game regardless of the player's movement options.
>>339827181
NPCs should always follow you around
>>339827215
WC 2010 and 2011 for NDS
>>339827391
>Giant's mask
Totally worth a mask slot, guys.
>>339821085
>escort missions
This shit needs to die in a fucking fire. They always walk slow as shit and are fuckall useless.
>>339827441
>boss or minions heals it
>you have to out-damage the heal
>game is being played single player
>can't pause because muh challenge
>NPCs don't actually follow you around
>they move from waypoint to waypoint who happen to be nearest to you
Goddamit Halo.
>>339827391
Fuck Sunset Overdrive
>>339828018
YOU are escorting THEM. Of course they're useless.
You don't hear a taxi driver complain about his customers not helping out with driving the car, or filling out his taxes.
>>339828185
You're right
By its very nature it's a bad thing to put in a game
>>339819325
>Fights you are supposed to lose.
>Add bad ending if you somehow beat that fight.
>>339828054
Most bogus form of balancing. Just give him more hitpoints, jesus christ.
>>339828054
>have to out-damage healing
>can't poison the boss
>boss has absurd amounts of HP
>the best way to kill it is to kite him into minions that if hit will do DOT damage for the rest of the fight
>do this several times then hide in a corner for 20 minutes until the DOT kills the boss
>>339822193
I still love how in the Witcher 3 NPCS move at your speed
Meaning that you can make them sprint from location to location if you want
>>339828687
>can poison the boss
>heals remove status effects at the same time
>>339828461
Well I fully agree.
There shouldn't be characters in a game that don't add to the enjoyment. It's much too laborous to make human models and animations to justify that kind of usage.
At the very least have a useless escortee stop once in a while provide interesting insight on flora or fauna of the world.
Don't let them be a piece of shit.
>>339822632
FISSION MAILED was a pretty cool scene
>>339828879
>Can't silent the one that heals
>game gives you a number of guns to use over the course of the game each with their own unique strengths and weakness which make them appropriate for different situations
>final boss is pretty hard and has different phases where certain weapons would be useful to use
>but your ammo is gone once you shoot it, doesn't come back with checkpoint on death
>there is only ammo for one of the guns in the boss's arena
>Stealth game
>Given a intentionally-limited ways of non-lethally dealing with guys
>Given a whole toybox of ways to kill people
>DON'T KILL ANYONE THOUGH OR ELSE YOU'RE THE BAD GUY!
I'm looking at Human Revolution, Dishonored, and to some extent MGS V
>>339829115
Who ever pulled this bullshit?
>forced co-op with AI controlled partner
>cutscene
Found the problem right here.
I'm SO fucking SICK and TIRED of """""stories""""" in video games
>only way to reload is to empty the clip
>hard mode
>all it does is inflate enemy HP
If that's your idea ofhard mode is, don't even bother including it.
>>339829238
Generally
>if you're having too much fun, you're a bad guy!
Design a better game, bitte.
>>339829335
At least you could always put Ashley in a dumpster.
>>339829284
Megaman
>>339819325
>Poison in the early stages of any RPG.
>>339829284
Jak 2. I wrote that because I beat it last night and it stuck out to me while playing it.
>>339819934
This game was a disappointment. I want my 5 bucks back :C
>>339829397
I like it. The fuck do you want hardmode to be if not harder than normal mode? Maybe you belong on easy if you don't want normal having higher HP than easy you fuckin baby
>>339829476
Yeah in the few areas there actually were any. Fuck trying to fight that second El Gigante with her.
>>339829729
what?
>>339829729
More agressive AI? Different enemy composition? New attacks?
>>339829729
If it means you're forced to change tactics or take more risks or be stingier or more creative with items or equipment then sure, it's okay, because it changes the gameplay.
If it just means wailing on a guy for twice the time or number of clicks then it's just boring.
>>339819325
shut up, doom is literally perfect
>>339829729
I expect hard mode to present me with more aggressive enemies that result in new chalenges, not just make me repeat the same challenges from easymode for twice as much time.
>>339830000
the quads have spokenhe's actually right
>>339819325
no way to go back to previous section of the level.
I'm looking at you, assholes
>>339830000
Impressive
>>339819934
MGS 1 was cool with that shit, frankly. And that other thing that kept fucking with your DVD-drive tray
>>339825976
What else do you expect from a racing game?
>main character is a nigger
>main character is a woman
>women are involved in the plot in any way other than for sex with the main character
>Difficult as fuck boss fight that requires practice and skill to master, if you don't know what you're doing it'll kill you in seconds
>Whenever you die you have to fight through 10+ minutes of regular areas/monsters/etc just to get back to the fight
Utterly inexcusable. It turns challenging exciting bosses into sources of frustration that encourages you to just find cheap tactics and exploits.
>>339830308
stop being a faggot
are there people really this autistic?
>>339830432
Look at your URL
>>339830308
this
do you want white male audience or not?
>>339822632
>game has options between stealth/guns blazing/whatever else and it's advertised and explained you have those options
>stealth is safest and most guaranteed for winning unless you fuck up
>you get penalized for trying anything else like going in loud, alarms go off, reinforcements and such
>you get penalized for fucking up stealth and the same thing happens
Like why do I have to always stealth and get fucked for doing anything else? I really hated this in Wolfenstein TNO
>>339822806>Division on console
>can't change controls
>circle is vault/climb
>X is take cover
>literally the only 2 buttons I want to change but I can't
>>339800000
>>339810000
>>339820000
>>339830000
>>339819325
>boss health
>6000000
>Player max damage
>99999
>boss has a insta kill move
kill cutscenes like in Deus Ex or the new DOOM
Make the animation use 1 arm and let me shoot with the other with reduced accuracy, don't restrict movement while both my hands twist their neck around, make the default action to use their body as a shield first and have me press another button to let go, just don't make me watch a repetitive cutscene which stops the game every time I need to kill something.
>>339822804
>you can get past just about anything and everything by leveling your stealth skills
>suddenly you get a far tougher boss than any before
>you can't get more levels where you are and can't leave the area
>>339830373
fucking dark souls man
if only from would stop forcing the
"le so hard gaem, literally prepare to die"
their games would be so much better
>>339828054
>the boss has a spell that heals him, give him armor, damage every turn
>He's immune to status effects so you can't prevent him from casting it
>So you just need to outdamage the heal, but you do shit damage since he buffed his armor
>mfw it's not even the final boss
>>339830956
Funnily enough I was thinking of Dark Souls when I wrote that post.
It's so bullshit. There are so many fights that I would enjoy if losing just meant trying again instead of being bored for ten minutes.
The worst thing is in most areas it's quite difficult to rush to the boss without taking hits, but going through methodically takes time and is incredibly easy, so you're stuck between probably losing health or being bored out your fucking mind. And when you get there after being methodical and bored all the adrenaline and shit has worn off from the previous attempt so you're slow on the uptake again.
I'm fine with a game kicking the shit out of me as long as it doesn't also waste my time.
>>339821085
Fuck this game for doing that way too much/ lets build tension by forcing them to walk
>>339829340
Then play solitaire.
>>339819325
Of the few measurable aspects of a game I think could be called objectively bad, I'd say that unresponsive controls are the worst sin of all.
>>339831369
>>339830373
it's incredibly easy to run to the bosses in the souls games, and it certainly doesnt take 10 minutes
only time this is an issue, is that shitty dlc boss in DS2
>>339821085
>tfw every part in the Gears of War games where Marcus is talking on the comm link and it slows everyone down
Bullet sponges
>>339831924
DeS had a lot of bosses that took noticeable effort to get to. Going through that fucking gauntlet of grim reapers and spear shooting manta rays while fighting skeletons on a cliff and hoping they don't just roll you off was not fun.
>>339830551
I think it actually make sense. Some guy attack the military outpost. Hmmm, what would you do as an officer? Call backup, right?
Now, some guy attacks military outpost and suddenly officer hears shots, dogs barking, screams or even SEE the attacker. What would you do? Call backup.
Also, I recently played this game and you don't have to always stelth. I was playing on "I AM DEATH INCARNATE!".
>>339819325
>open world
>crafting
>rpg skill tree in non rpg games
>>339819934
Fuck you, I love Metal Gear Solid for that
>>339832914
I'm okay with open world. I'm not okay with MGSV or farcry tier 'open world'.
>>339821085
this and any other "totally not cutscene" walk around while characters say shit segment
just make it a cutscene for fuck's sake
>>339824198
>killed all replayability for me
you can just choose to not play that mission you tard
>>339824628
Brogue, Sil, Infra Arcana (old-school roguelikes).
>>339827573
It's not optional if you want to get some of the best armors and weapons
>>339819934
This is exactly why Undertale's writing is so fucking shit.
Underage little cunts thing that "break 4th wall" = "cleverl"
>>339819325
>Having no closed caption option
That kind of shit makes a game unplayable for me.
>>339825536
>>missing quests because time limit
Just replay the game you casual.
>>339834019
If you care about the game enough to go out of your way to get the best equipment, why would you have such a problem with playing it again?
>>339834021
Undertale never breaks the 4th wall though.
>>339834080
Are you deaf?
>>339834080
fag
>Game lets you customize your level ups
>Game is not balanced around all stats being viable
>Game expects me to make these incredibly important decisions from the very beginning with a rudimentary understanding of the game
Fucking Devil Survivor
>>339819325
Any type of rpg/exploration game with a time limit. I'm looking at you, atelier games.
>>339834198
genuine retard or tryhard troll?
>>339834276
Hard of hearing.
>>339834276
Not him, but captions are great for moments where a character talks too quickly or is generally inaudible.
>>339834450
>Devil Survivor
u wot m8
>>339834276
Not that anon, but while I'm not even technically hard of hearing, I have a hard time with some voices, accented voices, and I read much quicker than they can speak anyways.
>>339834646
Game is built around MAG stat.
The first game, not the remake.
>>339834570
It's true tho. It makes the concept of saving canon but it never directly addresses the player.
Sections in which you have to be defeated to progress.I spent like an hour trying to kill Gunther Hermann in Deus Ex, fuck you agent orange
>>339831362
>you have to grind days of XP just to defeat that one boss
>>339819325
>Take a good game that wasn't previously open world.
>Make the next game open world but populate this open world with fucktons of nothing.
>>339834590
>>339834606
>>339834658
Just asking because I don't have hearing problems but I do like putting subtitles on everything I watch or play.
I thought it was a just me kind of thing.
>>339831620
>playing the sequel of "scort the annoying whoring bitch"
what were you expecting?
>>339834759
It's still breaking the fourth wall, even if no character talks directly to the player. Stop being an obtuse little shit.
>>339834080
I agree. A lot of games have absolutely shit sound leveling and a lot of dialogue can get lost in the noise around you. Bethesda games are the worst at this but at least they let you enable subtitles.
>>339834751
I got away with luck IIRC
>>339834875
It's like a secondary measure, too, since even someone with perfect hearing can get confused if someone isn't speaking clearly or is using phrases or words they haven't heard before.
>>339819325
>FOV lower than 90
>>339834882
>It's still breaking the fourth wall, even if it's not
At no point in the game do any of the characters acknowledge that they exist in a game.
>>bloom used everywhere, and not just in areas it makes sense on, such as the sun
fuck off lazy faggot devs, i actually want to play my game without being constantly blinded thanks.
>>339825507
>"skip" promt constantly visible in all cut-scenes
>Game won't let you skip even if you try
>Instead keeps showing you "loading..." text
>>339819325
sword or any kind of weapon hovering over character back or on his side.... also those weapons clipping through the character
>>339834450
>Make a highly specialized character in a party RPG
>There's a section where you're separated from your party
I fucked up
>>339835098
Directly integrating saving/loading into the story and pulling shit like forcibly closing the game window ARE breaking the fourth wall. It doesn't require for any character to step forward and proclaim "listen up, player! I am inside a video game!". And even if it weren't, and if we went by your stupid shifted definitions, it doesn't make it any less stupid and lazy.
>>339834857
Mgsv was like that, Realistic but boring
>>339825868
Yes but you could easily switch off the respawn stations and use manual save. But yeah, the worst option is still the default one.
>>339832914
>Have to craft bullets
>You do it on the spot using random lumps of rock laying around
A) You shouldn't be able to craft fucking bullets, if they run out then that's too bad B) How the fuck do you craft a bullet out of a fucking rock?
Filling your game with outdated technology as a visual style. Shit like CRT monitor scanlines, pixelart (especially BAD pixelart), faux graphical gliches.
Just... What is even the point?
>>339825606
I'm not the one who wrote "kill yourself" you stupid faggot; not everyone named "Anonymous" is the same person.
>Spamming some dodge move over and over again makes you move faster than just running forward.
>>339835421
It's a fictional universe where that shit is just how shit is. Dark Souls does the same shit with bonfires. I don't think you know what the forth wall is.
>>339819934
>>339834021
>d-do i fit in yet
>have a super cool debuffer/DoT class
>boss immune to all status effects
>normal mobs too weak for em
>>339836416
No, it does not do the same thing with bonfires. Bonfires don't directly interact or acknowledge anything outside of the game.
The fourth wall is the theoretical barrier between the player and the in-game universe. While you could stretch that definition as far as to say that any in-game messages or notifications or U.I. could be considered fourth wall breaking, most don't.
Breaking the fourth wall is essentially any interaction or acknowledgement of something outside of the game that's integrated into the story in some way.
>>339836892
>accusing someone of trying too hard to fit in while doing the fake stuttering meme that people do when they're trying to be cool on /v/
laughing out loud
>>339835421
>>339834882
Nah. The fourth wall breaks in undertale were alright, and handled in a pretty original way.
Who cares, you aren't listening to any sense anyway.
>>339837303
How can you say "nah" and tell him he's not "listening to any sense" when you're literally acknowledging that he's right by saying that Undertale breaks the fourth wall? In both of the posts to which you're replying, he's simply claiming that the fourth wall is broken. You're basically telling him that he's wrong while agreeing with him.
>>339836192
Because irony is cool.
Jesus, do you ever go outside?
>>339827306
>>339827441
>>339828686
>>339831362
>boss summons minions
>minions can heal boss
>depending on your party setup you can't attack boss until minions are dead
>boss summons new minions whenever you kill off too many
>>339819325
>Overly long tutorial for a generic shooter that works exactly like every other shooter after CoD Modern Warfare
>"Totally not a cutscene" cutscene of you walking along corridors listening to exposition
>Invincible killing machine in game, but vulnerable in cutscenes
>>339837196
Your character in Undertale has control over the saves. You're just doing what your character has the ability to. Just because it's in a menu doesn't make it a fourth wall break.
>>339837675
>>339837675
>boss summons minions
>they fire bullets at you
>if you kill one, it heals the boss
1. Don't kill them and attack the boss, but you will have to dodge hundreds of bullets
or
2.Kill them but that will heal the boss and make him harder to kill
>>339837962
Saving is integrated into the story. It's not just a menu interaction.
>>339824509
nothing wrong with MP in games, mate. MP ONLY is the cancer
>>339837510
I never said it wasn't a fourth wall break, It's that he's one of those band wagoners who now believes meta narratives are a cancer plaguing videogames all of a sudden.
Everyone fondly remembers Psycho Mantis for breaking the fourth wall, but after undertale people crop up and say "Fourth wall breaks, how lazy, this completely ruins any and all story elements of the game."
Undertale didn't even go straight for the "look directly at the camera here we go again amiright" sort of fourth wall breaks. It was intergrated in the story in an original way, and the player actually had to look deep into the game for it to make total sense the the complete perspective of the narrative.
But ofcourse UNDERTALE IS POPULAR ON TUMBLR SO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS IT 4TH WALL BREAKS ARE ALL SHIT BECAUSE OF THIS GAME NOW.
>>339825696
voice work in video games in general. nobody needs it, it's almost always shit and eats up budget.
>>339838671
Because in that universe saving is a thing that happens in real life. What do you not understand?
>ctrl + f "objective"
>no post complaining about the word "objective", and giving a big speech about how "nothing is objective"
Is /v/ improving?
>>339819325
"Press X to Awesome" where your gameplay is interrupted with a half second long animation showing your character doing something ***EPIC***.
Unless it's skippable.
Skippable Press X to Awesome actually would be awesome. You press X, guy closest to you is now on the floor, no interruptions to gameplay. Bam, done.
>>339839072
This is considered good game design by some people.
Having an "awesome" button.
>>339839050
I figured the word objective in this case is used like the modern use of "literal"
>>339827319
>>339827679
just make the npc follow you. make him walk infront of you, but have his movement bound to yours. done.
>>339822193DmC:DmCactually did it right
>NPC stops when you're too far
>starts to walk faster and faster when you're getting closer and closer
>same running speed as you when you're both running
>>339839160
Well the bad part is that it interrupts gameplay, takes control of your character away from you, and locks you into watching an animation.
I'm all for big flashy REK SHIT NIGGA attacks, so long as they don't take control away from the player to show le epic animation.
>>339829340
this. as a kid, i enjoyed them. final fantasy was the shit back then. but as i grew older, i realized, even the games i liked as a kid, have god damn retarded stories. and they take themselves seriously most of the time. looking at modern naughty dog, i can't help but laugh
>>339824147
Fuck I hate this more than I thought
>hey guys we need a way to let the players know they're about to die how do we do that?
>I KNOW LET'S TURN THEIR SCREEN COMPLETELY RED SO THEY CAN'T SEE AT ALL AND WILL PROBABLY DIE EVEN QUICKER NOW!
>>339830740
you can change your controller setup in the console's main menu you retarded nigger
>>339819325
>Draw Distance that hides enemies
COUGH*Medal of Honor Allied Assault*COUGH
>>339839362
I'd say God Of War does that well.
There is a certain risk vs reward in the optional QTE executions and they keep you engaged.
>>339828018
>hating on escort missions
Play Transformice.
You'll learn to view your fellow human beings as escort NPCs.
>>339830956
that was hardly from's idea. you can thank bamco for that. and yeah, it needs to stop
>>339824509
>twitch comments
Testing if this chat allows fun topics: 卐 aids cancer cuck cunt, ebola fag faggot, gook hitler holocaust jew Kill Yourself, kike loli mudslime nazi nigga nigger, rape RESET tranny White Power.
>>339839843
does twitch really block all of this? you can't even discuss the histroy of the 3rd reich on there?
>>339819325
>Important information is told to the player
>While fighting hordes of difficult enemies and the music is blasting
I hated this in every Borderlands game.
>escort quest
>going through loot filled dungeon
>alternate paths leading to treasure left and right
>npc won't stop for shit
>dies to a gust of wind
>CAN'T GO BACK WHEN IT'S OVER
