Why is the internet acting like this is the second coming of multiplayer first-person shooters? like jesus. its WW1? Who cares. its still ea, its still dice theyll stil fuck it up yet shills will lap this shit up and call anyone who hates it a cod hater. so whats the point?
>>339794832
>>339796761
WUZ
>>339794832
>>339796641
>>339796751
>>339796761
>>339796837
Quality posts, why do I still come here
>>339796751
SWEDEN YES
>>339796751
>Someone took the time and effort to make this image and do all that research about the lead designer
>>339796751
Autism the jpg
WE
>>339796751
>American holding german pistol
because it was fucking looted? is this bait?
>>339797335
>I wish i lived in V for Vendetta
>Those weapons of choice
>>339797335
>>339797578
>>339797707
>someone takes the time to point out historical inaccuracies that are only present for the sake of DIVERSITY
>LE AUTISM XDDD HOW AUTISTIC WHAT AN AUTIST XD XDDD IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME I NEED TO GO MAKE A NEBIN BRED ABOUD SJWS CENSORING MY JAPANESE PANDY QUESD GAEMZ BY MAGIN BOSTS ON DWIDDER BEGUZ DAT ID MORE IMBORDAN
WE
>Why is the internet acting like this is the second coming of multiplayer first-person shooters?
that's advertising
>>339798027
>It's historically inaccurate for soldiers to take enemy's weapons and use them
you're a literal retard
>>339798027
I just think someone wasted there to do so,then again there time and your are limitless
>>339796751
>"men" is never used as a generic catch-all for a sufficiently large number of troops, regardless of actual gender
Like, using diversity as a selling point is dumb as fuck, but that's just being overly literal.
>>339798172
''time''
>>339798027
NIGGERS
>>339796751
>>339798169
Yes the American heroically walked across No Man's Land shrugging off any artillery all while Proud to Be an American blared in the background and hamburgers rained from the sky just so he could scavenge a German pistol before slowly strolling back to his trench
>>339796751
I thought it was lawrence of arabia, fml are you fucking srs nigga?
>>339798434
bait
It's an EA multiplayer title. It'll sell like mad. Quality doesn't matter.
>>339796751
>went to university that teaches marxism
You mean every university?
>>339798027
Only one of those popsts said you have autism,but based on how triggered you got,i'd say their right.
People complaining about the forced diversity in this game are as bad as the sjws who complain about lack of representation in games like DoA and shit.
This game is going to be shit for so many other reasons, and you're focusing on something extremely superficial.
Please let the next battlefield be another standalone vietnam title.
the cover art and single player campaign can all be some strong independent black woman who don't need no man, just make another vietnam please.
>>339798685
No but seriously, what shitty podunk school doesn't acknowledge historical materialism?
>>339798823
Putting a black guy on the cover of a WW1 game is an insult. Niggers made up less 0.01% of the soldiers in WW1, they did absolutely fucking nothing.
The only reason they're getting away with this is because it's been a hundred fucking years now since WW1. Rewriting history just to meet your business social diversity quotas is disgusting. People wouldn't have a problem with this if it was a modern-day war game where there are plenty of niggers in the US army, as evident by there being no complains about niggers in BF3/BF4.
>>339799202
>Putting a black guy on the cover of a WW1 game is an insult.
an insult to who exactly
suppose they put an albino man on the cover. those probably made up less than .01% of combatants. it's a rare medical condition
who would they be insulting then
>>339796751
Jesus christ, the alt right nutjobbers that sprouted up in reaction to SJWs have all become 10 times worse and more insane than any SJW
>OMG GUYZ A BLACK PERSON IS IN THIS GAME IT IS RUIND 4 ME
Stop acting like it has anything to do with SJWs at all and not everything to do with you just being racist AND expecting the world to shield you from other races to not trigger you m8
>>339799202
>guy who knows nothing about WW1 whining about revisionism while he himself revises history
Also what ever happened to you fucktards being for the "freedom of the artist". Now it's suddenly "Only free if you agree with me"
>>339794832
>second coming of multiplayer first-person shooters
But that's how people react to Overwatch. BF1 only have normal hype, BUT people like to compare it with CoD. So when they don't like the new CoD, they end up praising BF1 a bit too much.
But still not as much as Overwatch
>>339799913
How am I rewriting history?
Are you implying niggers made up more than 0.01% of the soldiers in WW1? Because that's wrong.
>>339800434
So...how is it rewriting history to include a black main character then? You acknowledged they existed
I honestly think you should just seek mental help if your personality is like this and you can't keep your racism in check enough to enjoy a fucking game.
>>339796751
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>339794832
KANGZ
>>339800547
Nigs did fuck all during WW1, So I don't really know why you would focus on them for this era. Not even just nigs, American nigs specifically. Hell, even having America in a WW1 game is dumb because America also did fuck all during WW1 and literally showed up at the very end.
Because it has been shilled like crazy and because "le gamer rage" is a thing. People see all the dislikes on the new COD trailer and want to bandwagon. So they jump over to Battlefield (because to normies they are the only 2 upcoming FPS games) and they go to the "other side"
>>339800547
Not him but you got mad cis rage, son.
>>339800808
>Nigs did fuck all during WW1
Already established black troops fought in important battles. And again, if they existed what is the problem?
You sound much like an SJW to me
>THIS GAME MADE FOR A DEMOGRAPHIC I AM NOT APART OF DOES NOT APPEAL TO ME! I WON'T STAND FOR IT"
Let me guess, the developers should change the vision of their game to appeal to you?
You SHOULD make your primary point about how AMERICANS being the primary focus is retarded, but you focus on the black guy because it isn't historical accuracy that actually matters to you, you just can't ball up your racism enough to even march through life.
>ea
>1 year development cycle
>dice sweeds
Get the fuck out
This is no better Call of Duty #12213215
>>339797707
He is carrying nothing but German weapons, there apparently pushing a narrative that blacks were not given weapons before being sent to fight.
>>339798027
>Alt History
WHY WOULD YOU ACTUALLY WANT A LOT OF ACCURACY ON AN ALT HISTORY GAME.
HONESTLY. TELL ME WHY.
I'd rather have something made up in an alt history game.
>>339801007
Nigga...
Niggers did barely anything for WW1. I've already stated that they made up less than 0.01% of the soldiers in WW1, that is a fact. They barely contributed anything. They did nothing significant in important battles. It was white men who made the ultimate sacrifice in WW1, that's what WW1 was about, millions of white men who died and were treated like fodder by their commanding officers and the politicians. BF1 should focus on those people if they want it to be historically accurate, but they won't, in-game matches will consist of 25%+ niggers because Sweden and muh social diversity quotas.
>>339800808
The Harlem Hellfighters were an actual all-black American military division that fought in World War 1. They also fought for longer than any other US division, being sent in first. If they're going to include an American focus, they may as well make it about these guys.
Besides, games have always been about the player character special snowflake.
>>339801007
I think you're confused, I'm not that other guy. I'm just pointing out facts.
>muh important battles
A handful of battles in Africa which amounted to almost zero percent of the overall war effort? The German who led them certainly did a hell of a job with training them and taught them valuable guerilla tactics. If anything stuff like that should be in the game. Don't even try arguing for the Harlem Hell fighters. They're an extremely overrated and obsolete combat unit that did almost nothing but janitorial duties and their most well known exploit is getting ambushed bynsickly, starving, diseases Germans and somehow didn't end up dying because their enemies were literally on their last leg. If DICE really wanted to include and/or focus on a non-white regiment they easily could have used the 442'nd Marine Regiment. These guys were seriously bad ass and probably won't even be mentioned because Sweden lmao.
>>339801319
So, they should change the story to directly please you because you are offended by the lack of a strong white male character?
You are a reverse-SJW. Not even an argument here.
And again, it is historically accurate. You being triggered doesn't change it.
>>339801418
>why won't they make the game I want
You know if nega-sjws want everyone to appeal to them, maybe they should make their own game?
>>339801418
>did almost nothing but janitorial duties
>>339801408
He doesn't care about historical accuracy, he's simply a child who feels that a black character means they are "pandering" to someone else, and he cannot handle the idea.
>>339801319
true. in the SJW mind, whites can only be oppressors. even the lowest class of peasants that died in WW1 were evil. it's some sort of sick form of marxism that replaces the bourgeoisie with the white race
>>339801408
Oh trust me, I know about the HHF> The issue with them is that they are disgustingly overrated and even your post is proof of that fact.
First off, Them being the most decorated combat unit is a lie, and them seeing the most combat isn't true either. Those two titles go to the 5th and 6th Marine Regiment actually saw the most combat, and were without a doubt the most decorated American Military Group during the entirety of the Great War. Though this doesn't mean much because Americans didn't really do much fighting during WW1 to begin with. Hell, The Harlem Hellfighters aren't even the most decorated non-white unit. That title goes over the the 442nd Marine Regiment. Seriously, these guys did a lot of shit and were very well decorated. They blew the HHF out of the fucking water. I'm not even joking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
>>339801612
You can actually go look this up. Since they were so poorly trained and nobody wanted to fight with them, the HHF were largely kept to doing labor duties. Even when the Americans gave them over to the French they did this for the most part.
>>339801585
>You know if nega-sjws want everyone to appeal to them, maybe they should make their own game?
Where am I bitching about them not making the game in the way I see fit? I'm just pointing out facts of World War 1.
>>339801585
>>339801680
I didn't say anything about the story. The simple fact is that blacks were insignificant in WW1. A black person should not be on the cover of a WW1 game. I would have no problem with a black person on the cover a modern day war game.
Stop shoving words in to my mouth.
>Hurr just because there's a political thread doesn't mean the board is being shit on by /pol/ crossposters
>Try to make a thread about a game with black/woman character
>SJW KIKE DEGENERATE KEK KANGS BUILD WALL
Just delete /pol// No point in a containment board that doesn't contain them.
>>339801980
>Just delete /pol// No point in a containment board that doesn't contain them.
Nobody mentioned kikes or degenerates until you walked into the thread.
>>339801980
>Just delete /pol// No point in a containment board that doesn't contain them.
>/pol/
>"""""containment""""
/pol/ is as much of a containment board as /v/ is. It's kind of hard to contain /pol/ since it's the second most used board on 4chan. Plus, you shouldn't really be surprised at finding more political discussion on boards like /v/ since developers go out of their way to talk about modern politics and how it's important to gaming.
>>339801980
go home sweden
>>339801849
B-but muh marxist college told me otherwise
>>339794832
There is literally nothing wrong with having a Black guy lead
>>339801849
>Even when the Americans gave them over to the French they did this for the most part.
That's not true at all though. They participated in several major offensive and defensive actions while under French command.
>>339802250
I never said they didn't fight. I said they were mainly relegated to labor duties, which they were. The Americans didn't want to fight with them, and the French didn't have the same issues with them as the Americans did, but they were still mainly laborers first and foremost.
>>339797076
I don't think you fully appreciate shitposting, buddy.
There will be no lapping up of BF1 here because funposters will have their evelasting fill of this nig poster child because it will always upset dorks like this >>339797335
>>339797076
Get over yourself, /v/ has always been shit.
>>339802376
They weren't though. They were frontline fighters while under French command. They sustained massive casualties and were awarded highest honors for their operations.
You're just spewing a bunch of horseshit and hoping nobody will notice. You know about the 442 so you should know better. What do you hope to gain by lying to people?
>>339802250
As cannon fodder.
Black troops in ww1 were nothing but cannon fodder. No shit they were used in major offensives. Who else were you going tl sacrifice in order to break the stalemate and enter the offensive?
The trench wars of WW1 were nothing like CoD portrays. The first 2-3 waves of soldiers ALL died to suppressing enemy mounted machine gun fire + entrenched sniper fire.
The purpose of black troops worldwide literally was to allow enough white troops to reach the trenches in fighting order.
When out of battle, they'd continuously rape and loot french citizens like animals.
>>339802601
I'm literally telling the truth you stupid faggot, don't get mad at me because it doesn't kowtow with your predisposed beliefs.
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this to you.
I never said they didn't fight, and I never said they didn't suffer casualties. It's fucking World War 1, everyone suffered casualties, and everybody fought at some point. The fact of the matter is that for the Americans, most of their time was spent not fighting and just doing labor duties, especially groups like the HHF who were poorly trained and largely dislikes by their peers. Even when they were given over to French command they still did labor duties.
Also I think you're getting a bit confused here with their role in World War 1. Did they have active participation in battles? Yes. Were they people who were single handedly wining the war? Absolutely fucking not. A shit ton of their time during battles was spend digging trenches or getting resupplies, or running across minefields to clear mines, and no-mans-land to dwindle enemy resources like hogs to the fire.
What the fuck happened to this board?
It seems like /v/ is always trying to be ultra-contrarian.
>We need diversity in video games
NO WE DON'T, FUCK OF SARKEESIAN, GAMERGATEGAMERGATE
>Yeah, maybe video games should cater to the largest demographic
FUCK OFF ALT-RIGHT SHITTER, IT'S 2016, DON'T BE PARANOID AUTISTIC
Seriously, everyone can fucking see that the woman and black dude are stupid token characters because if you are on the right side of history, noone can critisize your work.
We used to fight against forced diversity, now it seems everyone feels like doing the opposite because they want to feel "mature" or something.
>>339803084
What happened? Is that a serious fucking question? Are you literally new? /v/ has always been one of the, if not THE, worst boards on 4chan. IT's been shitpost central from the time of its conception. It's practically /b/ with video games and it's always been that way.
>>339794832
They aren't, though?
Just seems like the average hype kicked up by big companies shilling their overrated, broken titles with maybe a little extra hype garnered from a break from the modern/futuristic setting in favor of the criminally unexplored WW1 setting.
And also nignogs.
>>339803084
It's a shit board full of underachieving slack-jawed HS or college goers in their pathetic modern rebellious stage. Nothing ever happened, this is just par for the course.
>>339802970
So now you're claiming that the 369 were just like any other regiment that participated in frontline fighting near the end of the war. Weren't you claiming earlier that they didn't do anything notable, despite participating in several major offensives and capturing critical strategic assets?
Will you just admit that the HHF are decent enough material for war videogame?
>>339794832
HOL UP
WE WUZ SOULJAS N SHIIIIIIEZ
>>339802815
>Black troops in ww1 were nothing but cannon fodder. No shit they were used in major offensives. Who else were you going tl sacrifice in order to break the stalemate and enter the offensive?
There were 150.000 black soldiers in WW1. That's not enough for an entire day of cannon fodder considering that 20 million white people died.
Niggers dug latrines
>>339796751
Holy shit, someone was butt devastated so much that they actually made this image.
>>339798864
/pol/sters have many trigger words that set them off without actually reading the context to go with it.
>>339803461
>So now you're claiming that the 369 were just like any other regiment that participated in frontline fighting near the end of the war
No? I'm specifically talking about how people went out of their way to not use them as actual combatants during the War. Americans refused to fight with them and made them to Janitorial duties all day and the French used them specifically as Cannon Fodder and Live Bait in actual combat scenarios. When they weren't being used as literal toys they were either digging holes or fetching supplies. They did nothing akin to the acts of valor like Alvin York or Frank Gaffney.
>>339794832
The revenue is going directly to support rapefugees in Sweden.
>>339796751
>Sweden
>Yes
there is no fucking way i'm buying this garbage
>>339803728
Why do posts like this still happen? You can easily throw an image like this together within 15 minutes and almost zero effort required.
>Someone makes a game and disregards sjw bitching about something
>/v/: "Based devs, you tell those faggots! Let people make the games they want to make! Go make your own game if you don't like it"
>Dev makes a game with diversity
>/v/: "DELETE THIIIIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
WE
>>339804293
WUZ
>>339794832
>Why is the internet acting like this is the second coming of multiplayer first-person shooters?
coz HD filters and stupid large masses like going zealot over mainstream titles like overwatch. Stupid sells, stupider sells harder, the stupidest with HD filter is a discussion starter
>>339804241
Someone has to stop those trolls from annoying you.
>muh historical accuracy in a first person mass marketed shooter
Yeah no, fuck off autismos.
>>339804221
It's not a joke image. He actually posts sources at the bottom lmao.
>>339804241
>Someone makes a game and disregards sjw bitching about something
>/v/: "Based devs, you tell those faggots! Let people make the games they want to make! Go make your own game if you don't like it"
>Dev makes a game based on actual events but includes shit for the sake of DIVERSITY
>/v/: "DELETE THIIIIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
>>339804241
There's a difference between being neutral and just making games for the sake of it vs going out of your way to shove Diversity in it and mention it at every point that you get.
>former
Blizzard - Overwatch
>latter
DICE - Battlefield
I mean come on, Bedouin Warrior Woman? The worst part is that it wasn't really much of an issue until DICE Started to gloat about how they put a woman in their game. A Bedouin Woman no-less. Which doesn't make any sense since the devs themselves said there would be no sort of historical revisionism or alternate history going on. A Bedouin Woman being a warrior during the early 1900's is a literal impossibility.
>>339796641
Kill yourself
>>339804434
You're actually complaining about them citing sources?
Only niggers and swedes will buy this
So without using the word "cuck" or "SJW", why do you guys care about a black guy being generic coverboy with no importance whatsoever?
>>339804542
They're not valid sources unless they come from a strictly left wing site
Only casuals care about it, shitty fps crap. Cod, battlefield, it's all the same shit.
>>339804651
How is Battlefield the same as CoD?
Is it because its not an arena shooter?
>>339804589
People are deeply concerned about their priorities in portraying WWI to kids that think wars stared with WWII.
>>339804589
Well it raises some questions.
Some people said the guy might not even be in the game and how the cover is based on the DLC, which raises the question as to why? If that was the case, why would you base the main game cover off of DLC that most people won't get?
Then you have the topic of the cover boy of a World War 1 game being spearheaded by a negro. This is akin to making a game about some great tragedy in a foreign land, like Egypt or something, while making the Cover Boy be some irrelevant, random, white that just happened to be in the area at the time. Was the guy there? Sure. Did he play any sort of major role? Lol.
Also I think the biggest issue about it is that it's an American negro who did jack shit during the war just like America itself. If they wanted non-whites to be the cover boy so badly, there were a shit ton of non-whites that they could have used instead, like the Asians from the 442 Marine Regiment, or the Esat African Askari led by German General Vorbek, or Indian soldiers that were a part of the British Army (this one would have made more sense than any of the others if you asked me). Instead of any of these other choices they go with what they did and all I an do is raise my eyebrow.
>>339805154
They could show how ridiculously style over utility ruled at the start of war and get some early french vs prussians on cover.
But then again I heard that french are not a playable side in game, so fucking WHO CARES amrite?
>>339804542
I'm not complaining, I'm laughing.
>>339805620
How is citing sources even remotely bad or laughable? I would be laughing if they didn't cite sources.
>>339805657
>citing sources in a troll image
>not funny
>>339805745
How is it a troll image? It just picks quotes stated by the people in question then pastes them in the image. then it has sources cited on the bottom for anyone who wants to verify the validity of the quotes. Then it has some images posted in it because those images in particular are the focus of the quotes.
>>339805856
Because it's wrong in every regard and implies things should be ridiculed when anyone with a functioning brain can see it shouldn't.
Perhaps you should go look at it again, then maybe you'll understand.
>>339806047
>it's wrong in every regard
Literally how? The image is as right as it could possibly be. Those are all literal quotes from developers at DICE and you could easily google it if you want confirmation. It isn't wrong at all. It's not like they took fake quotes to defame DICE or EA or Battlefield. They took legitimate quotes from the devs.
>>339804434
>he actually thinks his conspiracy theory is true
Yes, anon, the evil jews are trying to force leftism on you because they know the alt right is the one true path and they want to deny you the salvation of the glorious red pill.
>>339804439
>devs don't pander specifically to /v/
>WAAAAAH MOMMY IT'S NOT FAIR
Nothing was changed, you just don't like that they focused on one historically accurate group over yours
>>339806047
>t. Sven
go back in your cuckshed
>>339806228
Stop acting retarded. I know you're not that dumb and I'm not going to sit here and spell out every implication in that image.
>>339806369
>you just don't like that they focused on one historically accurate group over yours
>Women fighting in WW1 let alone Middle Eastern women
>historically accurate
>>339806302
>reading comprehension
>>339806489
The image implies that there's an overwhelmingly leftist agenda going on in regards to the making of Battlefield 1. The quotes in the image support that implication.
>>339806426
>memeing on me
Oh no you don't!
>>339806489
>literally you
>>339806585
>Overwhelming leftist agenda
>Because a woman on a horse and a nigger with a mauser
>>339806615
>mspaintcomic
>being so retarded that I literally have to spoon feed you
pic related is literally you trying to understand the connotations of that image
>>339806707
Did you read the fucking quotes? Did you actually even bother reading through the image?
>>339806707
The developer was explicit about his diversity pushing agenda.
>>339806790
Whatever you say
>>339806807
I can't believe I have to explain this to you. You're either trolling me or you really are a dunce.
>We want to show diversity
They want to show parts of the Great War that wasn't white guys trench fighting in central and western Europe. They're showing fighting from fronts from eastern Europe, Northern Africa and Arabia too. That includes women, niggers and sand niggers.
>It's definitely rooted in history
Point to me the part that isn't.
>He want to a University that that teaches Marxism
So what? Loads of Uni's do this. Does that invalidate them?
>>339806953
The great war was very diverse.
>>339802132
/pol/'s third most used, /v/ is second with /b/ being first. Same as vidya spamming isn't allowed on /lit/ or /co/, and /b/ tier shitposting isn't allowed anywhere but /b/ and /r9k/, /pol/ shouldn't just be allowed to shit up every single thread with a black person or vaguely non-/pol/ viewpoint like they do.
>>339807016
There are lots of posts in this thread you could read to understand my reasoning. I'm not going to repost just for you my pretty princess.
>>339801279
because it's not an alternate history game?
>>339801279
I thought alternate history was thrown out officially already, or is it still open for debate?
>>339807117
/pol/ actually rivals /v/ in board traffic. You can look through the catalog stats page to verify this if you want to.
>>339807249
People keep saying it's alternate History but the devs said it wasn't.
>>339807117
So you expect people to talk about left wing politics in video games and not the opposite? Politics now has a major grip on almost all forms of entertainment. It's not just about government anymore and it's no surprise to find it on boards like /tv/ or /v/ because the producers and developers themselves go out of their way to talk about it in relation to their games, tv shows, books, and movies.
>>339807418
I think he's arguing against the kneejerk /pol/ QRF that seems to descend on any topic remotely associated with /pol/'s core topics of Jews, blacks, and women. It's sort of the reason every thread about a WWII game has a countdown timer until someone flips their shit over the holocaust, even though the thread was about a lack of Pacific theater games and therefore was completely unrelated to this topic.
I don't think anyone is saying that the right wing must be silenced, it's that they should be prevented from spamming garbage on all boards, especially when it has a tenuous at best connection at best.
>>339807052
>They want to show parts of the Great War that wasn't white guys trench fighting in central and western Europe. They're showing fighting from fronts from eastern Europe, Northern Africa and Arabia too. That includes women, niggers and sand niggers.
There were no Bedouin Warrior Women fighting in World War 1. Niggers fighting, though exaggerated, isn't the biggest issue here. IT's stuff like them talking about how they added this powerful woman to the group who most likely doesn't exist. They stated that this isn't going to have any alternate history yet they're doing stuff like adding Bedouin woman Fighters to the game when that makes zero historical sense whatsoever. then you have people saying that the woman might be Lawrence of Arabia and that makes even less sense since T.E Lawrence was a confirmed man.
Point to me the part that isn't.
There are parts that are confirmed BS, like the woman, or parts that are highly exaggerated or negligible, like the negroes.
>So what? Loads of Uni's do this. Does that invalidate them?
No, it's not the University that's the issue in regards to this, it's the individual. Did you happen to look at the part of the image where the Dev was known to have written a thesis on the importance of Marxist revisionism in the modern world?
>>339807102
The Great War was 99% white. That isn't diverse at all.
>>339807302
I dunno mate, looks like they're pretty much even there, with /v/ generally having more replies per thread than /pol/.
>>339807418
No, I'd prefer discussion of a game was actually the discussion of the fucking game, not about race politics or the developer's personal views or whatever the fuck. Even if there was some huge Jewish conspiracy behind there being a black main character here, it doesn't impact if the game's actually good or not, because in my opinion, there's more important aspects to quality than the colour of the skin texture.
Don't get me wrong, sometimes it is relevant to the point, and I have no issue if that was the case, but this game and AoE 2 are impossible to discuss here because you get /pol/ posters spamming the shit out of every single thread on the topics, without exception.
If you want to discuss the racial agenda behind the development of a game, make a thread on /pol/, the board designed for that shit.
Also, I love the assumption that if I don't support /pol/ shitposting up everywhere, I must be a leftist (which is inherently a bad thing, of course, because /pol/ is able to turn an entire half of the political spectrum into "it sucks" because of what some tumblr retards say), and supporting people shitposting about leftist politics in games.
> Why do people like things!!! Waaaaaah
>>339807909
>with /v/ generally having more replies per thread than /pol/
That can easily be explained by /v/'s bump limit being 500 while /pol/'s is 300
>>339807909
>Also, I love the assumption that if I don't support /pol/ shitposting up everywhere, I must be a leftist (which is inherently a bad thing, of course, because /pol/ is able to turn an entire half of the political spectrum into "it sucks" because of what some tumblr retards say), and supporting people shitposting about leftist politics in games.
You what? I never implied that you're a leftist. I specifically talked about tolerance to one political spectrum vs the other.
>>339808034
Or it could be explained by /v/ having more posters, I misworded what I was saying. /v/ has more replies overall, but /pol/ has more new threads overall. If /pol/ had more replies as well as more threads, what you're saying would make sense.
What you posted actually supports the idea that /pol/ is less active, as they only have slightly more threads despite them having a lower bump limit than /v/.
>>339799663
>OMG GUYZ A BLACK PERSON IS IN THIS GAME IT IS RUIND 4 ME
Did you read it? 'cause it didn't say anything about that.
>>339807821
>then you have people saying that the woman might be Lawrence of Arabia and that makes even less sense since T.E Lawrence was a confirmed man.
I thought it was Lawrence because I didn't realize it was a woman on my first viewing. Mostly because I didn't think they'd be retarded enough to shoehorn a woman into a combat role in WWI, women in combat was more of a WWII eastern front/partisan thing.
>The Great War was 99% white. That isn't diverse at all.
Unless you want to argue that the Ottomans were white, 99% is an exaggeration. Granted it's still a very high percentage of European combatants, but don't act like only a handful of non-whites did combat, as some two million men were mobilized in the Ottoman empire alone.
>>339808198
I love how people bitch about /pol/ being kneejerk reactionary retards while they themselves do the exact same thing.
>>339808063
>So you expect people to talk about left wing politics in video games and not the opposite
Clearly implying I'd support people talking about lefist points of view, despite nothing in my post suggesting that would be the case. Only reason I didn't mention leftist shitposting is because there's next to none, it's nearly entirely /pol/ points of view.
Also, if you're going to do the classic /pol/ debate tactic of ignoring the vast majority of a post to try to exploit one that you consider weakest, I don't really see the point of even talking about this.
>>339807302
>only has a graph listing new threads and replies over time
>not unique ips
holy fuck guys, katawa shoujo general is the most popular bord on 4chun, look at how many replies and threads they have!pls ignore the fact its the same 4 retards roleplaying characters
>>339808225
>woman into a combat role in WWI
Scout planes
That's it
because ill be able to blast the head off some britbong with my Kar
>>339808247
>Also, if you're going to do the classic /pol/ debate tactic of ignoring the vast majority of a post to try to exploit one that you consider weakest, I don't really see the point of even talking about this.
I didn't acknowledge it in my because there was nothing more to say about them. I don't know what the hell you're talking about with /pol/ and ignoring things.
>>339808247
>Clearly implying I'd support people talking about lefist points of view
I mentioned tolerating their presence vs not tolerating the other one. I.E you're fine with someone talking about Topic A but not Topic B. I'm not saying you're an advocate for it personally, but you're fine with it being around unlike the other one. I never once mentioned political leanings or mindsets as far as you're concerned.
>>339808307
Didn't know women were even allowed to fly at this point.
The only combat related thing I've heard for WWI is some fabled middle eastern sniper, but I not only heard that from here with no source, but even the person telling the story said it was probably false.
>>339808225
Still overwhelmingly white. Something being 90 or 95 or 99 % of one specific group is not diverse in the slightest.
>>339808587
Somewhere I seen some french recruitment propaganda poster with woman flying an unarmed plane
>>339807821
It isn't "confirmed BS". You read the same wiki article as everyone else and think you know shit. Niggers fought and that's that. Doesn't matter if it's exaggerated or not, they existed and they're in the game.
>99% white
Ok, confirmed to know jack shit.
>>339808706
>it's exaggerated or not, they existed and they're in the game
I wonder why DICE goes to tell the epic tale of blacks and women in WWI instead of focusing on slav partisans/mercenaries or early change in war doctrine while people get moved down.
>>339808706
>It isn't "confirmed BS"
You know nothing about History if you're actually trying to argue for there being a Bedouin Warrior Woman actively participating in World War 1. Also what does that image have to do with anything? a quick reverse image search supports that she was a political refugee and not an active participant in World War 1.
>>339808446
>I didn't acknowledge it in my because there was nothing more to say about them. I don't know what the hell you're talking about with /pol/ and ignoring things.
/pol/ constantly will just respond to a tiny fragment of a post and disregard the rest. You did the same and then implied I was fine with one thing, when I never said I was.
>I mentioned tolerating their presence vs not tolerating the other one. I
Which is exactly what I said, that I support people talking about one, but not the other.
>I'm not saying you're an advocate for it personally, but you're fine with it being around unlike the other one. I never once mentioned political leanings or mindsets as far as you're concerned.
Fair enough, I'll admit I just assumed you were implying I was leftist. But you're still implying I'm okay with one form of political shitposting, when I've never said I was, I'm against off topic shit ruining threads no matter what it is. The matter at hand is /pol/ shitposting though, lefists don't ruin threads and post offtopic shit all over the place really, while /pol/ consistently does.
Me not mentioning something that's minor doesn't mean I tolerate it. I don't think that people talking about how to play guitar, or about how to get laid, or how to ride a bicycle, or whatever the fuck random topic you choose to pick would be fine if it was a consistent thing that's been going on for a while, and isn't just sub-discussions in a thread, but is in fact the sole topic of any thread even slightly connected to the topic.
>it's a /pol/ gets offended by diversity in games thread again
Can we delete /pol/ already?
>>339808931
Whats to say it doesn't? The game isn't out yet and you're assuming all these things. There is said to be about 6-7 different campaigns. How can you possibly complain about that?
>>339809023
>it's a cuck gets offended by /pol/ episode
Can we delete tumblr already?
>>339808706
>Niggers fought and that's that
I never said otherwise
>Doesn't matter if it's exaggerated or not,
Now that's retarded. How is this NOT important?
>>339809019
>>339809019
>/pol/ constantly will just respond to a tiny fragment of a post and disregard the rest. You did the same and then implied I was fine with one thing, when I never said I was.
Alright? You did the exact same thing to me yet you didn't see me screaming about /pol/ at you like you did to me.
>I'm against off topic shit ruining threads no matter what it is
That's the thing, it's not off-topic anymore. If you have a the dev of a Game start talking about their political preferences and how those political preferences are going to impact game development, political discussion in relation to the game in question isn't off topic.
>>339809056
Because the poster boys make nervous about their story telling priorities.
I know it's marketing, but it's bound to make europoors with actual investment in this shit mad.
I know this because I'm one of them.
>>339798027
https://youtu.be/pvzEZ1Sq4tI
Stop you fucking autist and watch the video
>>339809023
>DELETE THIS
This always solves the problem, doesn't it?
>>339809256
Hate speech should not be allowed on the internet when it offends people.
>>339809023
Deleting /pol/ wouldn't help anybody. Were you not here last year when Moot trolled /pol/?
>>339809314
Good thing the EU has successfully outlawed it then and is establishing re-education camps for any who post hate speech
I've already seen this with BF3. CoD will sell more, BF1 will underdeliver, and the world will move on.
>>339809056
>There is said to be about 6-7 different campaigns.
I swear to god if one of them isn't ANZACs at Gallipoli I'm going to be fucking mad.
>>339809505
Every single BF game since Bad Company has been terrible, I don't know why people suddenly expect differently now.
>>339809192
>Alright? You did the exact same thing to me yet you didn't see me screaming about /pol/ at you like you did to me.
I replied to all the major points in your post, me leaving out a couple joining parts in my quotes doesn't mean I ignored major arguments.
>That's the thing, it's not off-topic anymore. If you have a the dev of a Game start talking about their political preferences and how those political preferences are going to impact game development, political discussion in relation to the game in question isn't off topic.
But it is. This thread was asking about why people think it's going to be so great simply because it's WW1, and then the first reply was just /pol/ memes, and then a meme pic about how the devs support some political agenda because one developer went to a university when marxism was analysed (which is fucking normal for a university, acting like marxism doesn't exist and isn't important in today's society is stupid as fuck", and because there's a soldier with the wrong gun (as if he couldn't have picked it up off a body) and one female warrior on a horse. It's stupid as fuck, extremely shaky at a basic logic level, and completely fucking unrelated to why people are so excited about a new WW1 game.
If the thread was "How will the political agenda of the developers of the new BF impact the gameplay and story?", you'd be right, and it would be on topic. But it wasn't, and even then, I'd argue discussions of POLITICAL agendas should go on the politics based board.
>>339801279
>it's alt history
Not it's not you dumb cunt.
>/v/ has always said SJWs should just go make games themselves if they really care about political shit
>they go do it
>/v/ goes buttmad
What happened?
>>339809320
I'm amazed how poorly /pol/ reacted to that. They acted like it was the end of days when most other boards laugh that shit off and maybe get annoyed if it stays for too long.
>>339796751
want about those of us that want to play as fucking white males?
I admit that hating on battlefield 1 for just the cover art is fucking stupid, and hating on the fact that its about WW1 is hypocrtical to say the least.
That being said i still feel like WW1 should be left alone, that truly was a time that shouldn't get a treatment like some shitty fucking video game in its memory
>>339809572
You completely ignored the part talking about his university and his Thesis. Yet you don't here me complaining about parts of my posts being ignored like you do.
>"How will the political agenda of the developers of the new BF impact the gameplay and story?", you'd be right, and it would be on topic.
This always gets interwoven into the thread in some way, shape, or form just through means of association.This happens everywhere for literally everything on every board. Hell, this happens for everything in life and through the association it ends up being related to the topic at hand. IF it completely on-topic? not really. But it's close enough for people to always warrant discussing it in some manner in relation to the general topic.
>discussions of POLITICAL agendas should go on the politics based board.
Well no shit, I was never arguing against this.
>>339809656
Not their game. Neither was Uncharted.
>>339809523
There are no French or Russians (at least in noticeable way) in the trailer or marketing shots so I guess you are out of luck.
Black Panthers are happy tho.
>>339810052
There were no niggers in the trailer either. That doesn't mean they won't be in the game.
>it's a /pol/ invades /v/ thread
*sighs*
>>339810132
But they were in first marketing shots and leaks.
Now find a russian or visibly french frenchman in the fucking trailer (but we will spend time on armored terminator).
>>339810537
The Renault FT is confirmed to be in the game.
>>339810502
>hey buddy, ya look surprised.
Why make it a fucking yank shit nigga when they could use actual Sub-Saharan, North African or Indian colonial troops that fought in Europe? Or is it because only American niggers spoke English?
I just want the game for the Multiplayer, which also happens not to have any of the stupid shit people are crying about.
>>339810856
>I just want the game for the Multiplayer, which also happens not to have any of the stupid shit people are crying about.
It will. You can bet your ass on that one.
>>339809690
Actually, no. /pol/ just went fucking insane on how absurd it is to have a nigger protag for a WW1 game. Because it actually is.
Imagine the following:
>game set in feudal Japan
>protagonist is a fucking white male
>game set in 500 years in the future in post-apocalyptic America
>protag is a neanderthal
>game set in 5th century BC China
>protag is an abo
Don't try to spill your retarded fascist bullshit in my games, you fucking "tolerance" preachers. I really fucking hate it that it's so uninteresting and boring to be a normal human being these days, and not a nigger/muslim/vegan/crippled/immigrant/welfare queen/down syndrome/feminazi fucker.
Seriously, just go fuck yourselves.
>>339811060
Only your first example was valid since there were white people in Japan in 1500s but even rarer than black in WW1 Europe. 2nd is impossible and 3rd would require really fantastic plot.
>>339809690
You what? /pol/ went nuts over that. Moot did nothing like that to any other board.
He removed the captcha and also removed re-post time limits. He also incited other boards to shitpost on /pol/ however they wanted and stopped all /pol/ mods from taking action.
>>339811060
I agree, but I don't think that's what he's talking about.
>>339811205
No, it's not "valid".
Is it possible. Yes.
Is it probable for a gaijin to rise to incredible power and heroic grandeur in a foreign and hostile land, no it's not.
And what's more important here, by the dev's own words this is not made to achieve a never explored before viewpoint of WW1. It's not made to show a peculiar, near impossible and beyond all expectations rising to the occasion and becoming relevant of a foreigner in s strange land, like Blackthorne in Shogun for example. No. None of that. Fucking zero of all that more imaginative stuff.
One purpose; ONE SINGLE PREDOMINANT AIM:
to push fucking diversity down our throats.
And this is something unacceptable.
>>339811023
>good guy is black
>bad guy white perfect aryan
You can't make this shit up
>>339796751
Yeah, Malmö University is shite, but the institution that teaches game design has fuck all to do with the institution that teaches social sciences. Had he gone to Södertörn University then he'd be a confirmed Marxist, but Malmö University? No.
>>339809919
>You completely ignored the part talking about his university and his Thesis
No I didn't? Re-read my post, I address marxism being discussed in the university and how relevant it is.
>This always gets interwoven into the thread in some way, shape, or form just through means of association
Except it was the first fucking post, and the second, and every one after it.
>But it's close enough for people to always warrant discussing it in some manner in relation to the general topic.
People ignored the topic brought up in the OP to shitpost about /pol/ topics, and this happens in literally every BF1 thread. Something being extremely vaguely related to the topic in OP doesn't mean it's on topic to turn the whole thread.
>Well no shit, I was never arguing against this.
Well shit, I think this was all a misunderstanding then, because that's all I'm arguing, that talking about the politics of a game, or a politcal agenda should just be on /pol/, and leave discussion of the game to /v/. I don't really care what those beliefs may be, just that this board isn't the appropriate place to talk about them, as >>339807787 said.
>>339811914
Exactly. Brainwashing at it's most basic.
>>339811060
>>339811716
>>339811914
You people do realize that a lot of black soldiers fought for the French in WW1, right? It's not some crazy alternate history or #whitegenocide, it actually factually happened.
>>339794832
jUMP AHEAD!! NO!(FUCK YOU)
Play it first on xbawsone with EA access.NO!(Isnt this just that masked always online spyware DRM you introduced on E3 )
Microsft!JUST FUCKING NO!
i just watched official trailer(and while I typed this,YT decided for me to autoplay angryjoe and otherjoe?! reaction to trailer(even if i dont look at any of YT letsplay e-lebs),anyway, I heard yes,yes & yes and some really dumb comments, I dont get it how can some grown person still be excited for trailers!
it will be shallow bullshit everyone will be bored of in one month just like Star Wars.
Dont buy this shit! This is like you came to final boss of everything bad in gaming and they gave you so many clues on how to hurt it, all you need to do is not buy into their shit again!
Course, WW1 will be blamed for low success but this game is like that red diamond you have to hit on dragon in Wonder Boy.
>>339812408
uhhh
Will dice potentially rewrite history with this shit?
>12 year olds everywhere will suddenly be ww1 history enthusiasts
>>339811060
I was just talking about the great /pol/ meltdown with moot fucking with them being hilarious. I wasn't even talking about the main topic.
But if you want my opinion, like >>339811205 said, scenario 1 is valid (hell the Japanese are making a game like that now, Nioh I think it's called), scenario 2 could be valid if you have some comical defrosting or time travel, and Scenario 3 is absurdly unrealistic and you would need some serious explaining to do if you wanted to pull that off.
Overall it's really up to the type of story you want to tell. Are you telling of a person in a foreign land? Then scenario 1 is perfectly valid. Scenario 3 could be valid as long as you threw realism to the wind. Are you trying to tell as much of the real history as you can? Then you should show a full spectrum of the big fronts, and maybe one or two small side shows for extra variety. Since this game has been confirmed for multiple protagonists, they can go this route, not unlike the original Call of Duty games which had protagonists from all three of the big Allies. Of course it's all about striking a correct balance going this route, you want to make sure to not let the minor players overshadow the major ones.
Another valid story option is to tell the story of one specific unit, of which there are plenty of those types of stories from Easy Company to Patton's Panthers, which would justify their choice of cover character, though I don't think hat's the route they plan on taking.
>>339811348
So it wasn't just changing the background and adding the dumb sound file? I never post over there, I just went over briefly during the shitstorm to laugh at how everyone was acting like it was the end of days (the only other time I visited was after the 2012 election, and it was in a similar state). The only other thing I know is that /pol/'s traffic actually dropped drastically during that time frame, which coincided with an increase in garbage on all other boards.
Again, why are we angry about the inclusion of a female Bedouin warrior in BF1's campaign? Perhaps she's forced to pick up arms and defend her tribe or something I understand the >muh sjw arguments but we don't know anything about the story yet.
>>339813603
This requires faith in EA/DICE to actually have competent writing to properly justify their character choices within the story. Given their track record the odds are not in their favor.
>>339813337
Also I think the cultural impact of the game is overstated, 12 year olds would already be learning about WWI in the US education system so this would not be their first exposure to the conflict. On top of that, video games (and other media) haven't always been historically correct but still manage to get some nerds like us interested in researching the factually correct history (I know Age of Empires 2 taught people on this board some basic history, and that game isn't 100% accurate to true history).
There is a reason why there are only 3 FPS placed in WW1, it was literally most slow but gruesome war to date, people died really, really slow(people became much more effective in killing people in WW2).
It was as if 2 sides send hordes of people in front of firing squads and losing side would be the one that wouldn't be able to make any more bullets.
>>339813603
Diversity for the sake of diversity is just sad, it doesn't make society anymore progressive, it's a 100% business decision. If I was black, homosexual or a woman, I'd honestly feel insulted if I was being portrayed in a game just because the publisher wants profits from appearing to be "socially responsible".
>>339808240
Your statement might be in some way credible if it weren't for the fact that every other faggot on this board didn't sperg out over the fact that its a nignog on the cover.
>>339813603
It would be like COD having you play as a gay german on the allies side of WWII
It's one thing to take creative license, it's something else entirely to fabricate events and present them as fact for the sole purpose of being diverse.
>>339794832
I like the way that this black guy didn't appear once in the announcement trailer. He's obviously not that important in the game, unlike that British soldier we see like three times in different places.
It's still a pretty shit cover for a whole bunch of reasons apart from 'black guy', though.
Because Dieselpunk is an insanely underutilized setting/style.
I'm hype.
I am a nignog and I only just noticed that was a black guy, I thought it was some white guy but his face was being shaded because of lighting
>>339799975
Yeah, Overwatch is the second coming of jesus, 2 modes, multiplayer only, GOTY GOTY. Hopefully retards should be bored by now
>>339814642
>(people became much more effective in killing people in WW2)
You do realise that it was modern weapons' ability to kill people like no tomorrow that lead to the stalemate of trench warfare, right? There weren't any truly effective counters to being shot at and shelled beyond 'dig a hole and hide in it', so that's what everyone did.
>>339816242
>You do realise that it was modern weapons' ability to kill people like no tomorrow that lead to the stalemate of trench warfare, right?
How is that relevant to what he said?
>>339798434
You are so fucking stupid
>>339816962
He was saying that armies weren't effective in killing each other in WWI that made it an incredibly slow and grinding war, when in reality the opposite was true.
>>339798292
Why would you play this card then anon?
Why would you give your self autism?
>Campaign
>Missions are just comprised of standing in a trench staring off in the enemies direction
>Sometimes your superior officer asks you to charge into NML
>It fails and you return to standing in a trench
10/10
