What do you think they'll show at E3 for FFXV?
>>339788153
They'll probably show of the pretty graphics and flashy animations in order to mask the shit combat.
>>339788383
I forgot to add that they'll probably skate over the weak story as well.
>>339788383
FF has never had good combat. At best it's always been mediocre. Yes, even your favorite one, even mine.
>>339788487
Yeah but it's never been "hold O to win" bad. And the story is usually better than a teen road trip movie meets generic JRPG heir to a kingdom coming into his own story. So the only thing it has going for it are pretty graphics.
>>339788487
It has so many gameplay elements that get dropped after being used in an entry or two.
And now gameplay consists of a stripped down version of KH, with a driving simulator. Fucking fantastic.
>Hey lets take a well known series and make it unrecognizable for the better part of a decade and most likely kill it
Square Enix died with Matsuno. I hope they rot.
More fujoshit and GoT pandering. Fuck the actual FF fans.
>>339788653
>it's never been hold "O" to win bad
You can grind in every single FF game to be able to spam default attacks and beat nearly everything, including almost every mainline boss.
more boring gameplay in duscae
>>339788937
>GoT pandering
Is GoT really that big over in japland?
>>339788937
>>339788653
has that ever been an overused story in jrpgs?
>>339788653
>hold O to win
No.
Also in FF7, with the right materia combo, you didn't even need to pick up the controller to win.
>>339789070
They're doing it to appeal to the west. That's why they ruined Regis for the shitty movie.
>>339789070
No. That part is for westernfags. They completely killed the Yakuza motif in favor of muh knights.
>>339789204
Well the "uncrowned heir to the throne" is done to shit across all RPG subgenres, and the "young adult coming into his own" is basically the prototype for any JRPG.
>>339789271
isnt this applicable to most games though?
>if you have the best setup in the game it becomes easy
>>339789363
aside from fable I can't really think of any other rpg where you play as a member of a royal family
>>339789549
yeah but you could do that in 7 midway, if that
and easy is one thing - not needing to pick up the controller at all is another
A pre rendered trailer focused on the car driving around aimlessly.
>>339789684
this
they went way overboard with the focus on driving around
they promised darker themed trailers like the versus days, but I've yet to see this, and I doubt its happening
>>339789271
>>hold O to win
>No.
Great argument there senpai
>>339789684
>the car driving around aimlessly.
So actual gameplay footage? Cool.
>>339790297
look at the video m8, the player was holding circle the entire time and look what happened
>>339788153
Final Fantasy VII ReMake Demo bundled in.
>>339790581
nah theyre gonna bundle dragon quest 11 with that though
>>339790581
that's actually a good idea
>>339790297
look at the webm you stupid fuck
>>339790408
I beat that boss fight by holding O and occasionally circling the boss. Obviously if you stand in the way of attacks you're going to die.
Point is the combat is as simple as holding a button and not getting hit.
>>339790736
>I beat that boss fight by holding O and occasionally circling the boss
So you weren't holding O the entire time.
Good to know retard.
>>339790676
why would they do that when DQ has never been popular in the west?
>>339790736
>I beat that fight by not holding O the entire time
hurr durr
>>339790958
That's exactly why they would do that. Dragon Quest VIII was bundled with a Final Fantasy 12 demo in order to increase sales of DQ8. Type-0, which wasn't marketed in the west very much, sold very well due to having a FF15 demo.
>>339788153
Story trailer in English probably.
World of Final Fantasy looks better despite being chibishit.
Fag simulator 15: now with more angst filled teens.
>The major innovation is a bad guy that rubs his chin and says "hmm".
>>339791129
None of the guys in XV are teens, idiot.
>>339790736
>I beat that boss fight by holding O and occasionally not
>>339790892
>>339791007
>>339791334
>splitting hairs
Holy shit how specific do you have to be to make a point?
The boss can be beat by pressing a single button. The argument is that the combat is ridiculously simplistic and any argument to the contrary relies on the player adding unnecessary complexity for absolutely no purpose.
The boss can be beat with one button. You can add flashy shit, but it's just superfluous decoration, not necessary to learn or master to beat the boss. All you need is O and the occasional movement.
If the only argument against "hold O to win" is "no, you have to move sometimes too," then what is that honestly saying? How is that better? It's still indefensibly simplified pseudo real-time combat.
>>339791369
you could hold the button to autoattack in other FF games too
so fucking what
FF combat has NEVER been complicated, and it's never going to reach DMC levels.
119 days
who else /counting/?
>>339791478
>Other games also had shitty combat so this game's even shittier combat is okay!
>>339791369
You can hold O like a scrub or time attacks for different combos/moves. The choice is yours.
>>339788153
This will be my first FF and I'm honestly excited about it being a brotherhood-like road trip adventure. Story seems interesting, too.
>>339791621
And what use is timing attacks and getting combos if pressing one button defeats the boss? What incentive do I have to do any of that if the game can be beat with O?
>>339791620
When did I say it was okay?
Complaining about simplistic combat in a Final Fantasy game is just moronic.
>>339788653
>implying XIII didn't have an auto attack button
>implying you didnt just press x when grinding
>>339791738
>Iron Golem
>boss
>What incentive do I have to do any of that if the game can be beat with O?
Don't play it then you whiny faggot. Why not go complain how FF7 could play itself too.
>>339791478
FF being action RPG now means people have higher expectations of combat since the whole point of an ARPG is to deliver great combat on top of RPG mechanics. So the whole "Other FF games did it so it's ok" argument doesn't really hold up.
>>339792036
>FF
>deliver great combat
lmao
Plus, it's not an argument. It's a fact. FF's combat will never not be casual.
Expecting DMC levels of gameplay from FF just shows how retarded you are, and how retarded SE is for not leaving this as a spin-off.
>>339791205
You really think that's gonna keep square from writing them that way?
They could all be 50 years old and they'll still act like pissy teens with no control of emotions.
>>339792036
>Other FF games did it so it's ok" argument doesn't really hold up.
why?
>>339792036
>FF being action RPG now
why is this happening
>>339792270
are you retarded?
>>339792280
Because he doesn't have a counter-argument. So he just claims it isn't an argument to begin with. Typical of an XV shitposter.
>>339792358
Silly question.
>>339792358
Are you? Show me one fucking game by square that doesn't succumb to the nips inability to emote.
>>339792324
>now
technically any rpg with mmo combat is an ARPG so it all started with 11 and its been like that ever since.
I refuse to accept 13 as a final fantasy game.
>>339792532
you make a fair point
>>339791369
Every boss in every previous Final Fantasy can be beat by pressing a single button (to select actions) along with movement keys (to change between actions).
Every. Single. One.
You lose.
>>339792159
Did you read a single word of what I said, you nigger? I said this being an ACTION RPG means that the expectations of combat interaction is higher than a typical FF turnbased/ATB games. Why even make it an ACTION RPG if you can't deliver on the action aspect? Then just make it a classical RPG. Look at Dragon's Dogma. That's how an action RPG is supposed to play. If you can't deliver on the action/combat front, then just make it turn-based so we can atleast get some old school nostalgia from this.
>>339792036
But it really shouldn't be held up like that. FF gas always been maximum casual.
>>339791369
That's not "splitting hairs". You weren't holding on button to win. You still had to maneuver around, so you didn't win the fight by holding a single button.
You simply fucked up your own argument.
Daily reminder that jrpgs are literally made for children.
If you're over the age of 12 and can still stomach the writing in them... you are beyond salvation.
>>339792646
>anything that isnt at the top of the genre isnt allowed to exist
are you serious?
>>339792646
>Why even make it an ACTION RPG if you can't deliver on the action aspect?
Don't ask me, I'm not SE.
I'm just saying you'll never see "advanced" combat from Square for FF.
>>339792785
was the 360 your first console?
>>339792785
Lost Odyssey.
>>339792807
Why would you intentionally make something mediocre when making the most expensive, ambitious game in genre history?
>>339792867
2600.
Try again.
>>339792785
Fuck off back to Witcher 3 you edgy fuck.
>>339792946
>Atari fags still exist
>>339792785
>>339792946
Wow you're so big and mature. I wish I was as mature as shitposter as yourself.
>>339792891
Because they're nips and can't be bothered to change the recipe. Same fucking shit for 30 years now while dumbfucks scream how innovative it is.
>>339792993
why would anyone praise fanfiction?
>>339792807
Doesn't even need to be the top of the genre. Just passable. I played the Odin Sphere remake demo and even there, the action aspect was light years ahead of FFXV Platinum. And that's an ARPG aswell.
>>339792745
>>339792575
Other games required at least some basic form of strategic thinking to win.
There is zero strategy involved in running in circles and holding O.
>>339788153
Ring magic, hopefully
>>339793128
The shitposter is the one making an FF thread.
>>339793047
You are the cancer that killed /v/.
>You're proud of it.
>>339793243
as someone who loves strategy games I can assure you that turn based combat in most jrpgs has always been bottom barrel trash
>>339793432
atari made terrible consoles that no one owned
>>339793467
as someone who loves strategy in games I can assure you that your mother is a whore.
>>339793603
rude and immature
>>339793243
No, they really didn't. Maybe if you count secret/bonus bosses like Ozma or Yiazmat you have to do a couple minutes of planning and setting your party up, but for 99.9% of FF games you can mindlessly mash standard atrack with little fear of danger.
I'm actually tired of hearing about the game. They've been showing it off for years. Just fucking release it already.
They should show off other games.
>>339793243
>There is zero strategy involved in running in circles and holding O.
>I have played and finished the game!
Also
>Any other FF
>Strategic thinking
>>339792785
But you play Overwatch. That doesn't sound mature at all.
>>339793654
>not "not interested"
Ya fuckin blew it
>>339793563
Child detected.
>It's bed time.
>>339793716
Whst's funny is that SE is actually making tons of decent games now that you don't hear about since FFXV is taking all the marketing bucks.
>people trying to pretend they played FF for the gameplay
>>339793796
I don't. But stay mad at those darn Western companies. Reeeeeeeee!
>here's your ATB final fantasy
>>339793895
List them.
>>339793998
Found the westerncuck. Fuck off back to Uncharted and Witcher for muh mature stories.
>>339793880
>delusion the post
sorry to burst your bubble but everyone either owned a Sega and/or Nintendo consoles until Sony and Microsoft came in.
>>339794097
WoFF
DQH2
Bravely Second
SO5
I Am Setsuna
FF14
>>339794234
shit
shit
shit
shit
shit
shit
>>339794234
>FF14
Stopped reading there.
>>339789271
>Also in FF7, with the right materia combo, you didn't even need to pick up the controller to win.
In FF7 you could also hold O to have all of the characters auto-attack
That guy is an idiot
>>339794138
>Mad that he got called a child
>Cuck
Yeap, he really is a child. I hope you enjoy those jrpgs while staying a kissless virgin anon.
>>339792785
He's right
>>339793975
I do though, I like XV though
>>339794145
Obviously.
The 2600 was BEFORE the nes/master system. And it sold like hot cakes.
How fucking retarded are you?
>>339794418
I hope you enjoy those niggers and trannies forced in your "mature" games cuck.
>>339794545
no one cared about consoles until the nes and Master System came out
>>339794679
You know that the world will stop hating you as soon as you stop hating yourself?
You're preoccupation with niggers and cucks is nobodies business but your own. This isn't a blog.
>>339794429
>youtube comment section
even youtube users know that their shit
>>339794816
You know you can stop being a cuck by stop constantly defending western devs fucking your ass. Just say no to movie games by SJWs. It's not hard.
>>339794718
Nintendo wouldn't have even bothered changing from a playing card company if it wasn't for Atari's success. Try again.
>>339793998
Somehow I don't believe that you don't play Overwatch.
>>339794429
>someone actually made a collection of youtube comments in order to validate his opinion
>>339794943
and?
I don't know why XV shitposters even bother. They always get shut down, and just stop posting.
>>339794934
When have I defended Western devs?
Aren't you just defending nip devs?
>>339794927
Meanwhile I've lost count of how many shit games and total blunders the west has had.
>>339794992
Even worse, someone collected youtube comments praising Bethesda games to validate his opinion.
>>339795034
Japs make good games. VNs don't count.
>>339795172
kek
>>339795024
More like they get tired of laughing at easy targets.
Why do you think shitposters in jrpg threads always get so many responses?
>Think about that for a minute.
>>339795209
Yeah. Capcom, Konami, Nintendo... they've all been hitting it out of the park lately, r-r-right?
>>339795251
who are you quoting?
>>339795251
Learn to greentext you fucking newfag.
>>339795397
It's a response, not a quote. Fucktard.
>>339795363
MGSV isn't popular? Smash isn't popular? Bloodbourne isn't popular?
>>339795564
do you know what green texting is for?
Kek
So fucking easy.
>>339795564
You don't even know what greentext is for.
Fucking westerncucks.
>>339795564
>>339795564
https://youtu.be/vifYelSTlMo
>>339792785
Daily reminder that vidya are literally made for childrenand manchildren. Being smug about playing “mature” games doesn't help either.
>>339795779
kek
>>339788653
Type-0 was hold O to win too. Of course, that game would murder you in a few hits even in the tutorial on easy difficulty and had much faster and more varied combat options.
Leave it to the weeaboos to get mad about breaking a made up quote rule.
>Does it hurt?
>It does.
>>339795779
perfect
>>339795963
>he's still here
>>339796042
just a typical XV shitposter
they're extremely autistic
>>339796042
You keep taking the bait. Why would I leave?
>So comfy.
>>339796042
>>339796090
since reddit clearly wants attention why don't we talk about the secret transformation for the car
>>339796042
Who are you quoting?
>FUCKING NEWFAGS cuck nigger
>Mom, are my tendies done?
>>339796216
Westerncuck making a fool of himself again. When will you stop?
>>339794679
What's with the high correlation between weebs and stormweenies?
>>339796182
Does it turn into a good game?
>>339796216
You seem upset.
anyone else excited for the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP8EgMUVmwk
>>339796182
there is no secret transformation
just different armor
>>339796314
Weebs=kissless virgins
Obviously they're gonna be turned on by the word cuck.
>>339796358
eh
it looks pretty shit and I hate that they ruined Regis' design for it
>>339796445
shame I wanted a gundam form for the car
>>339796452
Yeah, but you'd think stormweenies would like western stuff more, being made by whites and all.
>>339796547
They're weebs. They simply ape everything they see. Y'know, like a child.
>Those guys on /b say nigger alot. I wanna be big and bad like them when I grow up.
Successfully derailed?
>>339796843
Yes. Thank the westerncucks for it. Back to shitting out more Overwatch threads I reckon.
>>339796930
just ignore them and talk about the game
>>339796976
This game hasn't had actual discussion since the Plat Demo. Its fucking dead Jim, the game is going to be underwhelming and squeenix will go under, no amount of advertisement will change that.
>>339796358
No, but I'll watch it. It's just gonna be a long ass opening cutscene for the game.
>>339797108
Remake will save it.
' ' )7
>>339797203
I want to believe, but as soon as the word "episodic" appeared that was a clear indicator it wouldn't be good.
>>339797108
Why are you shitposting? Has your life gone to shit? Are you an /r9k/ virgin? which one is it?
>>339797203
The thing is though that's squares last ace in the sleeve. It will give them a major influx of revenue. But, after that.... they're dead. The simple fact it's getting made at all is proof positive they're creatively bankrupt.
>>339797346
FFVII is a big game. If they want to remake the majority of the content it needs to be big as well, hence episodes. Episodic isn't anything to necessarily be worried about, unless we hear for a fact that they're going to put a price tag on every installment.
>>339797394
It's too bad. XI and XII was the peak of Final Fantasy in my opinion. There has to be someone that can work with the franchise, and not in a Yoshi "Make it WoW" Pee.
>>339797513
Nice one anon.
>Paranoid, are we?
>>339797394
>Creatively bankrupt
Yeah, the moment they alter their writing, fans goes assblasted for no good reason. The moment they steer a little bit from their usual style, the “fans” cries it's not Final Fantasy anymore, Final Fantasy is dead to me, bullshit.
>>339798005
See also: the anal pain over VIIR's combat not being exactly the same.
>>339794363
Stopped reading at the end of the post. Gj senpai.
>>339798179
Not him but 14 is >>>/trash/
>>339796976
>>339798328
I know, just saying he stopped reading at the end of the post.
>>339798328
>Not him
Sure buddy.
There's really nothing to discuss until E3.
>>339798161
This. I'm not a fan of remakes and whatnot, but at least, SEnix decided to implement change. Whether it is good or not, is yet to be seen. But no, they decide to shitfling at the first sight of change. Good grief.
>>339788653
>FF12 is considered the best FF ever
>the game literally plays itself
Tabata is god
>>339799854
It's still ATB. You need to fuck with your gambits and equipment between big boss fights.
>>339788653
I wanna look through my menus to cast magic missile every fight!
>>339788735
SO true, my fiend was telling me how much he hopes they make a Vagrant Story Re-make or sequel...
I felt like he just couldn't fully understand how that can never ever happen.
>>339788153
Probably the same shit they've shown for the past few years. To be honest I don't give a shit anymore, I'm looking much more forward to hearing about the FF7 remake.
Also fuck off Andre you sad thundercunting faggot, I know you're the one falseflagging and shitting up this thread like all the others.
>>339788153
The final build of the early area, the desert area. Well, that's what Tabata implied on the recent ATR. But I'm looking forward to just how many summons and magics that are in the game. And a footage of an actual flying car control.
Where is XV-kin?
You guys do realize the only reason /v/ dose not talk about this game is cause y'all acting like children, right?
Everytime i want to discuss the game, the inner FFXV community raids the thread fishing for this XV-kun and naming dropping Kagari and someother gamefaqs members. Keep your internet problems out please, and you might get quality discussion going on.
>Implying /v/ discuss videogames.
Yes, we do. Now just stop it.
>>339802765
Stop talking to yourself.
>>339802828
>Not replying means am talking to myself.
Lurk more, please.
>>339802765
What else do you want to discuss? Combat? Story? Setting? Gameplay? Cars? Chocobos? Almost every aspect that is known about the game is already discussed here on /v/.
>>339792532
I wish they just used XIV mechanics instead
>>339802765
what the point in discussing game which is not out?
discuss existing things, not imaginary shit
>>339804597
Are you fucking retarded
>>339805176
worked well for xenoblade x
>>339805176
Yes.
>>339805406
I played Xenoblade and aside from the shitty vertical progression it isn't anything like XV or XIV. Never tried X but I can only assume they did something similar to the first. Multi-character control means you can have full control over any character at any time while still maintaining a bit of control while not directly controlling them.
Also XIV is 100% shit.
>>339802765
There's nothing else to talk about
I just reached lvl99 with Noctis in Episode Duscae. When a demo is more fun than most ea ubishit multiplats you bet your ass the full game will be GOAT
>>339807394
>wasting this much time on a demo
I actually feel sorry for you, PS4 finally got selection of great games and you playing mediocre demo.
>>339807394
>having fun
I feel sorry for you.
>>339807471
>you should only enjoy something that only I allow
Get a grip. Not everyone have the same taste in games. Although there are great games out there, but if OP is having a blast in playing a game, then let him be.
>>339808241
one thing is to play complete game, regardless of tastes, other is to play demo with 3-4 hours of content and then mindlessly grind for sole reason of reaching levelcap
Sure, that can be fun in it's own way, but I don't really get it. You need to be square fanatic to do that
>>339808572
I don't get it either. He's probably an achievement hunter or something
>>339809413
>achievement hunter
>people playing for getting virtual pats on their back
just burn it all
>>339788153
Probably this: http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/05/31/final-fantasy-xv-gets-lots-of-information-on-gameplay-and-more-graphics-wait-for-e3/
Don't have time to read the thread now, so, sorry if it has been posted already
>>339789363
what other jrpg do you play as a prince to take back the crown city and be king ?
we will get a trailer the day before e3 and some other ffxv related showcase at sonys press confrence.
>>339812151
>at sonys press confrence
Why?
I don't care about the fucking game, just post more rule 34 Gentiana.
>>339812391
cause sqaure does not have a press confrence this year and you know how hype people get when they see the sqaure enix logo during sonys shows.
>>339792532
Not really cool downs is what separates arpgs grim mmos. Also mmos you're still selecting through a menu what your move will be like xenoblade
