Is the GTX 1080 capable of playing modern games at 1440p, 144hz at high (not necessarily max) settings?
If it is not, should you do 1440p at 60fps, or 1080p at 60fps? Or even 4k?
>>339758137
1080p at 144fps*
the ones with actual optimization, yes
so what, Alien Isolation and World of Warcraft
>>339758552
Lel
Is there any possibility that some games which benchmark at like ~100 fps at launch of the 1080 will benchmark at like ~110-120 in the future due to patches, driver updates, and DX12 optimization? Is that a thing?
whatever you prefer
i usually play any multiplayer game at 144 hz on a tn monitor
singleplayer games or anything where good color reproduction is important go on a properly calibrated 60hz ips monitor. includes movies and tv shows.
lent my 1440p monitor to a friend because i prefer to have matched resolutions. and framerate is more important to me than res
so up to you op. i wouldn't worry about it. it probably all looks good.
overall which is the bigger upgrade?
1080 --> 1440p or 60hz to 144hz?
>>339759454
framerate especially if you play anything where movement and tracking and reaction are crucial ie any competitive fps, rocket league
if you play mostly singleplayer games then 1440/60 is a fine choice. some competitive games like fighting games tend to be locked at 60, color reproduction is better at lower refresh rates especially if the panel is ips, single player games are usually meant for 60 fps
two monitors is also an option. i run a 60 hz and a 144 hz 1080 monitors fine with a radeon 7970. im sure nvidia 1080 can run any combination of two monitors fine.
I have a 1440p monitor with a 980ti. I would never go back. Basically every game except for trashy arma 3 i get 60 frames on max. On well optimized games like Overwatch and BF4, I regularly get well over 100 fps. I would never go back to 1080p. I will wait for the 1080 TI and then get 120 fps all day.
I'm pretty sure 1080 is overkill for 1440p or 1080 with 144 Hz.
My current setup is dual 1080 @ 60Hz with a GTA 970, and while extreme usage will bring the card to its limit, it is perfectly capable of running newly released games at high or even max settings for now.
For the resolution or hz question, it depends on the game itself. Unless the nature of the game is competitive, higher resolution tends to be the better way to go.
Unless you're into 4k resolution or dual monitors setup with both being 1440p or higher, 1070 sounds to be a better value for you.
>I still consider 1080 a better choice as the card will probably handle games for the next couple of years
Then wait a little bit for the normal fags aftermarket version to come out.
A reminder is that games in the 21 century are not really that high graphically demanding. Rather than the game itself asking for such high video card requirement, a more common observation is that the game is badly written and therefore cannot utilize your video card in a good manner. Even 980ti STI cannot handle latest Assassin Creed title.
If there is a game 1070 cannot handle, then 1080 will probably can't handle it either not because of the specs requirement, but rather because the game is unpolished.
>>339758137
>>339760985
dude that really pisses me off, I was so looking forward to a big new PC build and I was really hoping to make 1440p 144hz a reality. Are you telling me I'll have to wait like 2 more years to realize the dream? Fuck this gay earth.
>>339761207
144hz is literal placebo meme for retards, anyway. 4k60 is where it's at.
frame rate > resolution
anyone who says otherwise is a consolefag
>>339761302
to be honest i haven't even seen 144hz in real life, i've just heard people RAVING about how they 'can ever go back' and I have the cash to burn so I figured why not. You telling me it aint what its cracked up to be?
>dont know if i want the 1080ti or a new pair of headphones
I have big problems in life
>>339761447
It is virtually impossible to tell the difference above 90fps.
>>339761613
fuck off retard
>>339761408
So would you pick 480p @240fps over 1080p @120 fps?
>>339761613
>playing csgo on my 144hz monitor
>start feeling sick
>vomit on the floor
>realized it somehow switched to 120hz
60 frames per second is important. Very important.
Higher frame rates are not. Sorry if you bought into the meme. There have been """""studies""""". Most people can't tell the difference between steady 60 and steady 120. Steady 120 to steady 144 is pretty much imperceptible.
>inb4 muh competitive advantage
fuck off, dork
>>339761447
I notice some responsiveness over 60 fps and it feels better but it's very slight. 4k is probably better for practical reasons, but I don't have the hardware to either push 4k at 60 or maintain 144 fps on all my games at ultra. I just picked a monitor with the right size, price and feature set for me.
>>339762005
>claims he can tell the difference between 120fps and 144fps
Why lie?
>>339758137
Depends. Not exactly.
It will run bf4 1440p at like, 80-90hz.
Csgo/rb6 will run 144hz though
>>339761613
Its actually 24fps. Even Sony says so.
>>339761207
>>339760985
It's worth noting that most of these tests are using intensive AA like MSAA, which in reality is redundant when you're playing at 1440/4k and is a performance sink
>>339761852
no obviously you max out your monitor, no need to go beyond it
>>339762024
>I have never seen a monitor above 60hz for myself
>It's just negligible dude lol
you dont need to maintain 144 fps to benefit from 144hz, i dont know why people think this. 65fps@144hz>65fps@60hz.
it's doubley true now with gsync/freesync,
>>339762143
>>339762143
>lie on the internet
What can I say? I have amazing genetics. I was blessed with perfect eyesight. I pity people like you.
>>339762380
you're giving me hope. you thinking if i crank that shit down to 4x or 2x then i might get at least a steady 110-120?
>>339762428
There are 240hz monitors you know
how do you select an add on? wtf...trying to add stuff to my load out and its not doing shit. I have it unlocked through the blood web then go to inv and add ons and just keep clicking.
>>339762024
I have a 96hz monitor. When I see 60fps games they seem laggy to me, just like 30 fps seems laggy to someone used to 60.
My friend has a 144hz freesync monitor and it makes my 96hz seem like a piece of shit.
>>339762497
>vomit at 120fps
You have brain damage.
the human eye can only see up to 60fps, anything more is a waste of money
when does the 1080 TI / 1080 TITAN come out? would it be worth waiting if im chasing that 144hz of pure electricity straight to my nipples?
why even bother with framerate when your eyes can only see up to 20fps
I'm gonna get a 1070 and do 1080p 144Hz with it.
>>339759454
Hoo wee how about some of the good ol' math friend!
1920x1080 is 2073600 pixels! That's 1080, 1920 times! That's a bit more than 2 million!
Now 2073600 x 144 is 298598400 pixels a second! Hoo wee! That's almost 300 million pixels!
Now 2650 x 1440 is 3686400! 60 times a second, that's 221184000! Almost about a quarter less than 3 million!
So there you have it folks! 1440p@60hz is about 75% of 1080p@144hz! Hoo boy! Time to nab some of those high end cards!
>>339762745
No one knows, but probably around when AMD releases the VEGA gpus. It will probably destroy the 1080 because it's using HBM2 memory.
>>339760958
>dual 1080 @ 60Hz with a GTA 970
Why would you go and lie on the Internet like that
>>339763032
I think he means two 1920x1080 monitors running off a GTX 970
>>339763021
1080 Ti will have HBM2 and blow Vega out of the water most likely.
>>339759454
1080p vs 1440p is more noticeable than 60fps vs 144fps. And 1080p144 is harder to achieve than 4k60. Don't fall for the 144hz meme.
>>339763226
Typing @60Hz at the end there implies he's running vidya on both. Unless he runs /v/ at only 60fps
>>339763276
t. guy who's never seen a 144hz monitor
Once you did you'll never, ever go back to 60hz. It's so fucking smooth.
>>339762024
I can tell the difference between 60, 90, 120 and 144 and I find it hard to believe others wouldn't.
I know because 60 feels like what 30 used to feel like when I used to have a 60hz monitor, 90 is the point where the jerkiness of 60 goes away but it's still visibly blurry in motion and 120 and 144 are where it looks like you're rotating an object in real life rather than looking at a really fast flip book of an object rotating.
The difference between 120 and 144 is very subtle but noticable, but to be perfectly honest it's pointless to differentiate between the two because both are great.
The more movement there is in a game the more easily you'll tell whether something is running 60/90/120+. Some games have these fancy menu screens where they have a scene running in real time in the background but there's not much motion going on, just wind blowing cloth and such, and with them I would struggle to tell the difference between 90 and 144, but once I get in game and can move my camera about it's blatantly apparent.
Personally I'd recommend people try both to see what they prefer, if they somehow can't see the difference between high frame rates and low, they should go for a high res monitor but if they can, go for a 144.
>>339763416
>Once you did you'll never, ever go back to 60hz.
That sounds like a retarded thing to do then. Since it's so hard to run modern games at 144 fps you'll basically just be upset all the time and be forced to only play shitty games like CSGO and indies.
I thought video games were about gameplay and not 144 updates per second
Why go above 1080p?
I don't want anything bigger than a 24 inch monitor on my desk, that's already big enough.
>>339758137
1080 is massive overkill for 1080p. you are literally throwing your money away if you buy a $700 card for 1080p.
2560x1440 is the minimum for a card like that. 4k is more desirable, if you can afford a decent panel.
>>339763416
you are full of shit. Resolution and monitor size always trump refresh rate unless you exclusively play twitch shooters.
t. a guy who owns a 2560x1440 144Hz monitor
>>339764343
Nope.
>>339762914
If spitting out pixels were the only function of a graphics card you would be right. In reality though, the performance drop from going from 1080p to 1440p is not that great, especially with modern cards. For example in a recent benchmark of the MSI GTX 1080, in the newest Hitman the 1080 GTX lost 26 fps (from 109 to 83) going from 1080p to 1440p, but if spitting out pixels were the only factor you'd expect it to lose nearly half of it's overall performance. It takes going all the way to 4K to see a halving of performance.
>>339763907
24 inch @ 1080p is NOT retina. 4K is. So if 24" is your optimal monitor size then you can go well above 1080p and still tell the difference, if your eyes aren't shit.
>>339763907
The increase in image quality from the increased PPI is worth it. My 27" 1440p monitor has a higher PPI than a 24" 1080p and the image quality is noticeably improved.
I wouldn't be surprised if soon we'll see 24" 1440 and even 4k monitors.
Higher PPI is never a bad thing.
>>339764687
>27"
See, I don't want 27". That's just too big for my desk.
>>339761207
Vega at the end of this year
Just get a 1440 120/144Hz monitor problem fucking solved.
Personally I pick 1440p over 144hz. Once you start playing games at that higher refresh rate it's hard to play them at a lower refresh rate. This means you're going to be turning down a lot of settings on the modern games to keep 1080p @ 144hz.
With the modern high end GPUs, you can play 1440p at max settings or roughly max settings at 60 hz with no problem and that should last you 2-3 years. With the GTX 1080 it should be at least 3 years.
Unless you really get into competitive gaming, 144hz is going to cost you more in GPU grades over time.
Of course you could just get a 1440p/144hz monitor and be done with it. That's more expensive but it'll give you the best of all worlds.
>>339763724
>CSGO
>shitty
git gud
>>339758137
Stable framerate is more important than anything else.
I have dual 1440p 27"s
I didn't even know 144hz was a thing. Oh well :(
Will a 1080 be able to play every modern game at 1080p 60fps with max settings? I've been waiting for a long ass time to get a new GPU and I'm fine with 1080p and 60fps for now.
Speaking of monitors, who's the most reliable panel manufacturer?
Alsois curved monitors a meme or actually functional/aestethic etc etc.
>tfw 27" is too small
>tfw 32" is too narrow
>See this
>37.5"
>3840x1600
>Curved
>adaptive sync
I need this
>>339765753
Even a 970 can do that np
Should I upgrade my 980ti to a 1080? Tired of getting sub 60fps in games like the division and witcher 3 at 1440p
>>339758137
The 1080 can play just about anything at that resolution definitely past 100. A few game might hit 144 but most modern games might not hit 144.
Stick with as 1070 which can run just about anything at 1440p at ultra settings past 60FPS.
>>339758659
chances are the opposite, since they nerf cards when a newer generation comes out
>>339766162
no but maybe the 1080ti. but even then just wait for benchmarks
>>339765832
for fuck's sake just get the 43" Philips UHD and run letterboxed 3840x1600 or 3440x1440 if your GPU is toaster grade.
ultrashort is the worst meme.
>>339766382
Is the 1080 not a large upgrade? It looks as big as a 970 to 980ti, but maybe I'm mistaken.
Is it possible to buy one of these things yet?
>>339766693
You want something 4k in the 200 dollar price range?
>>339758659
I wouldn't expect much more than a handful of frames from driver improvements.
The reality is that you can throw a multiGPU setup at it and you still won't get 144 FPS in a lot of titles because the CPU is the real limiting factor.
Some games will run fine at it, especially those who target competitive FPS whores like CSGO or Dota, but expect to sit at around 100 FPS in most games.
>>339766648
Most people that would upgrade to it have 980ti already, at either 1080/1440 and it does just fine. Wait till the TI comes out, that or big pascal and then the 4k 60-100hz monitors will be cheaper too. Bam bam.
>>339758137
Want to upgrade pc to run at 4k
Games bore me now.
Fuck
The new video cards by nVidia are a bit of a letdown.
I was hoping of doing 4k@120/144Hz next year and it looks like I'd have to wait late 2018 for that.
>>339766468
But 43" is just too high and you miss some vertical adjustment.
24" or 27" at 1080p?
>>339758552
You forgot Witcher 3, MGSV and GTA V.
>>339758137
yes
and the card gets better over time as drivers and game studios adjust to its architecture
>>339767481
>Witcher 3
>Optimized
>>339758137
>1440p, 144hz
Youre lucky if you can get 60FPS at near max settings.
alright guys i went a bit nuts for my new gaming build
i can afford this, but are there any places where I can save money or any places where I'm making dumb decisions? Particularly, what's a case as good aesthetically as the InWin 909 for less? Is an IPS monitor really so much better than a TN panel to pay the premium?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mPpwr7
>>339769082
>Buying thermal compound
Use the stock 212 tube paste, it's good stuff.
>gaymen keyboard
>gaymen mouse
Buy 10$ keyboard and mouse
>overpriced headphones
Do you really need this?
>fancy overpriced case
Are you a faggot? Just get the cheapest you can find that meet your requirements.
>>339769997
i do a lot of travel for business so a good pair of headphones is essential
i want a mech keyboard
on mouse and case i hear ya, i was wondering if anyone had good suggestions for the case. and yes aesthetics matter dog, i want a comfy ass entertainment center.
>>339769082
Jfyi the 212 evo already includes a bit of thermal paste.
I'd go for some raid0
The 1080 founder edition is a meme
That case is really overpriced
>Buying windows
