What went wrong?
Came out at the wrong time, that's all
>>339755592
Blizzard's content creating speed just cant work in the same genre where Riot shits out updates almost every week and Valve went full underage gambling. Plus using lol bussiness model in a postriot enviroment is just plain stupid, there lots of idiots too attached to thier grinded lel accounts to try that in any other games
>>339755592
came out in a time where dota2 players and lol players don't play mobas. they just play dota2 and lol and don't give a shit about anything else
it needs a fundamental rework to be fun
More casual than LoL
>>339755592
It was late to a party that requires extreme dedication. Players who have already invested $100s of dollars and thousands of hours of their time into a game won't move no matter how good it is.
>>339758423
Which is easy because LoL has the highest skill ceiling of all current e-sports games.
>>339755592
Blizzard tried to make an actual MOBA
>>339755592
* horrible reconnect service makes any disconnect effectively a game-losing mistake
* can't spectate, limiting how people can learn the game and interact with friends
* trades depth of gameplay for superficial flashies, making it fun for a short period of time but having low lasting appeal since so many games play out exactly the same
* attempts to play on nostalgia for hype of its heroes, which limits any interest to heroes you're familiar with while alienating people that aren't familiar, making them feel like they're trying to understand someone else's past they weren't a part of
* lackluster mediocre lukewarm support from Blizzard meant that even the fans knew it was a sinking ship from day one, preventing many from getting all that invested
>>339755592
They keep adding characters nobody gives a fuck about instead of using the huge database of characters people know and love. Also Blizzard doesnt give a fuck about it. The amount of updates it gets and attention feels like its an indie game.
>>339758584
Except for Overwatch :O
>>339758584
If you mean MOBAs yeah
>>339758732
>Medivh
>No one cares about him
no Kilrogg
Hahahahaga. And if when to blizzard buld stadium to esports in. 3.463 overfill a stadium watching my Uther punk.
It doesnt matter how much better legue of not War3 or fat man dolly dressup 2 are, you can't buld a big enough stadium or enough stadium to cash in on your entire fanbase.
Meaning Blizzard does just as wel as th other guys
>>339759208
>>339755592
Actually requires you to play an objective instead of sitting in a lane farming all game and then blaming your teammates for the loss
>>339755592
Genji and Hanzo in HotS when?
Golly gee, I sure am glad that Blizzard has finally made a game where I can play as the popular "Sergeant Hammer"® character from the best-selling StarCraft™ science fiction universe in Blizzard's new smash hit "Hero Brawler," Heroes of the Storm!™
>>339758584
>higher skill ceiling than dota 2
explain to me how
>>339755592
Way to expensive, you should get way more gold per game and the quest should you also give more.
But I think that wouldn't work.
They should redesign the game and give out all heroes for free and instead of directly buying the Skins they should do the same thing as in Overwatch with the loot boxes. You get 1 Lootbox per lvl up.
People are into gambling and would buy that shit up. Just think about CS:GO. It was dead as hell and after they implented Cases it exploded.
Add some balance tweaks and HOTS can attract casual gamers easily.
>>339755592
>what went wrong
Blizzard tried to make a game after they got rid of all the people that knew how to make a good game
>>339762114
they can't. it's b8. stop responding.
Blizzard has better marketers than game designers/programmers.
>>339761907
I wouldn't mind the OCs if it didn't take them a month to put out a new character
>>339762546
I miss the days when their programmers were their marketers because the games were so good everyone wanted them
>>339755592
the game is alive and will be more alive once season one hits in two weeks
the things which makes me want to play hots over dota or lol are:
games are quicks(between 15-20 min)
gameplay is mostly team fights and map objectives
no annoying mechanics("deep") like last hit to gain gold.
no need to know hundreds items and viable builds.
your character progression is focused on upgrades to your initial abilities.
if you are making the choice of playing assfaggots, atleast pick the fun option
Gameplay is as deep as a puddle and therefore gets boring real quick
>>339761907
It was originally Warfield in a tank but then they thought that he never appeared in a tank so they took him out and put Hammer in.
LOGIC
>>339755592
Needs more talents that drastically change the way you play. For example li-ming teleport damage + takedown heal
And not
-this skill is now has like 10% less cooldown
-this still now does a little extra more damage
-this skill now cost 15 mp less wew
These are shitty gimmicks that leads to narrow down same builds.
>"You see that new mount Jim worked on all day?"
>"Yeah that would be great for a promotional. Something to draw in all the new Overwatch players."
>"Uhhhhh.... yeah."
>"Why, what are they gonna use it for?"
>"They wanted to put it on the cash shop for 20 dollars, then remove it after 3 days and never offer it again"
>"Oh..."
They put literally who's like rehgar in before KT and Ragnaros and shit like that
>more people watch HoTS than people playing Battleborn
>>339763469
He filled a niche that they wanted at that time.
>>339763469
it took them a year of release before putting out the most important character in the entire Warcraft universe, and he's a weird pseudo-support. So I don't know why you're surprised
>>339764820
Thrall is already in the game.
>>339767017
on the off-chance you aren't memeing, I mean Medivh
>>339755592
blizzard took a genre that can be lots of fun
over casualized it, gave it crap matchmaking
and eventually it died
overwatch will go the same damn way, might as well call it heroes of the storm 2
they're even doing the same thing over casualizing WoW
blizzard is trying to make games more inviting and casual
and what they're doing is making them so casual that nobody wants to play them
ranked didnt save heroes of the storm because its skill cap was so low
and it wont save overwatch because its skill cap is so low
what are you faggots talking about?
This game is great and very fun.
It receives updates on a weekly basis, a patch just came out yesterday.
games are short so you dont sperg over wasting your time if you get paired up with retards
characters and abilities are unique and very fun to use, gameplays is solid, there are always new heroes coming out
its free, can buy new heroes with in game gold which isnt that hard to farm
>>339759135
KILLROG
>yfw they finally put in the goblin waifu
why does everyone talk about it like its dead? Its very much alive, what are you basing this on?
>>339763590
>more people playing literally everything else than HoTS
>>339767838
very much alive? 10 minute ques are not alive
>>339755592
Judging games' success via their twitch viewcounts is what went wrong
HotS is still dead and garbage though, that just has nothing to do with it
>tfw was a blizzdrone until Cataclysm, everything since has disappointed me on a massive level.
Feels bad. I miss the days of poopsocking Diablo 2, brood war, and early WoW.
Blizzard is the reason I play pc games, but I don't give a single fuck about the games they put out now.
:(
>>339758853
Compared to
>Kel'thuzad
>Fenix
>Edmund Duke
>either of the Hellscreams
>All the Diablo classes
>Ragnaros
>Overmind
>any of the dragons (Alexstraza in particular)
Medivh is pretty low on the list.
>>339767738
>20-30 minutes average
>short
its almost as if you dont have anything to do other than play bad video games
>>339758652
>actual
>>339767801
>still no worgen wife
>>339758584
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
When is Dr. Boom becoming a champ?
>>339768040
Only time I've got 10 minute queue was when we tried to play Team league at 1 AM.
>>339768126
>Fenix
>Edmund Duke
>Any of the dragons
>More cared about than fucking Medivh
Yeah but no.
>>339768294
Fenix is the bestest bro and the dragons have waifu powers.
Duke is the only one i'll give you.
>>339768126
>caring about dragons
LoLfags that make casting wishes with their dick need to be genocided
>>339767696
Competitve Overwatch kinda feels the same as Competitve Hots
Competitve games that lack depth tend to die extremely quickly, that being said I think the OW queue will remain populated for a long time
>>339768294
IDK I could give a flying fuck about Medivh.
I'd rather see Mephisto, Duriel, or Baal - fuck adding Warcraft heroes.
When's Mephisto?
when's Kel'thuzad?
When's Teron Gorefiend?
>>339767529
>Medivh
>More important than Thrall at this point
>>339768271
quick match at high noon takes around 4-5 minutes to find a match 5-10 minute que times throughout the day, less and less every day too, 9/10 players are grinding in 0 fun ai games because of their scumbag free to play buy each character business, id rather pay 30$ and get a complete game than get a shit game for free and if i want to enjoy the whole game i can buy each character for an insane price of 10$ each
oh and i can go to HELL if i want any skins
>>339768559
I mean, without Medivh thrall isn't on Azeroth, so you could argue that he IS more important.
Still a fucking garbo character that 3 neckbeards would give a fuck about though.
>>339755592
The game's been out for barely year already and they're already revamping their ranked play
>>339768483
OW will last longer for sure, but die all the same, of course it was shilled for a year straight though
with a bunch of stupid youtubers saying
>OH ITS LITERALLY PERFECT SO FUCKIN FUN, YOU GOTTA PLAY IT TO GET IT
when its a 7/10 game at best
>>339768773
yeah i got an email for that
was it due to queue times?
The truth is that Activision Blizzard, unlike old Blizzard, is absolutely fully relying on using their brand and fanbase to push their games.
They failed doing that only once, and that was HOTS.
If it had the same marketing as Overwatch received, and the same hype that Hearthstone went through, HOTS would've been between LoL and DOTA by now.
What's even worse - that further proved to their executives that they are no longer capable of making fun games that the market itself will evaluate and pick up, instead they KNOW that they've lost their inertia so they will fully rely on marketing from now on. If WoW2's ever released, and it will since the movie is a grand advertising campaign for it, most of the resources will be drained from the dev department and relocated to the marketing one instead.
Forcing a game down their fanbase's throats via aggressive advertising at least guarantees some moderate interest, while fully dedicating resources towards making the game deep and fun is a risky investment, as it might be picked up by the market as a shit game, in which case you put all your eggs in one basked and you just dropped it
>>339768692
>quick match at high noon takes around 4-5 minutes to find a match 5-10 minute que times throughout the day
I see that you are talking out of your ass. Even with fucked up matchmaking thanks to Blizzard bizarre requirements, searching for quickmatch takes 6 minutes tops. After 6 minutes mark all prerequisites go out of window and you have game in less than 15 seconds.
>>339768923
>If it had the same marketing as Overwatch received, and the same hype that Hearthstone went through, HOTS would've been between LoL and DOTA by now.
it wouldn't, there just isn't enough content or support for a MOBA that has to compete to LoL and Dota
>>339768923
I was hyped when they announced Blizzard Moba
This was before ive played Dota 2 and when Riot was showing their jew side by releasing op champs constantly then nerfing in 2 weeks.
It honestly just took too much time to come out, they missed that sweet window of a few months after the initial announcement
>>339755592
blizzard-activision
>>339768836
Well at least angryjoe gave it 7/10
>>339768919
It was because it's too easy to get rank one, the new ranks will now reflect actual skill.
Also, queue times.
