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this is the only game that /v/ universally likes
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>>339722814
>people here think Metal Gear Solid is good
lmao
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It's a menu-driven saturday morning cartoon for underaged redditors

It ruined the lore and the gameplay, only people that started with it have it as their favorite.
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>>339722814
What about New Vegas? I've never seen anyone shit on it in a non-baity kind of way.
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There are a few of those tbqh.
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Oh please. Nobody here can afford to play pachinko.
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>>339722814
It is the only MGS game people universally liked.
People who don't like Snake Eater either don't like Metal Gear games, played the game before they fixed the camera in Subsistence or are hipsters. It's ok if it's not your favorite MGS game but you can not argue it is a bad MGS game without sounding like a shallow contrarian.
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>>339722814
NOW AVAILABLE AS AN AMAZING PACHINKO SENSATION!
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>>339722895
>It ruined the lore and the gameplay, only people that started with it have it as their favorite.
Could be said for any game in the series
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MGS3 is the 2nd worst in the series next to Phantom Pain

Peace Walker>4=2>1=MG2>GZ>MG1>3>Phantom Pain
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>>339722895
mgs2 is the one that ruined the lore.
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I prefer MGS2 over MGS3 desu
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Fuck those menus.
Fuck that camera. Eat shit.

Mega Man 2
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>>339723071
>>339723010
PULL
THE
LEVER

>>339723090
>PW & 4
>above anything
They're on par with ACID
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>>339722814

2 is better
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>>339722970
Would this count?
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3, 2 and Peace Walker are good.
Rest is meh.
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>>339722895
this is true, but it's also true for 2
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>>339723170

AC!D2 though non canon is the 2nd best MGS game ever made next to Ghost Babel.
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>>339722895
>>It ruined the lore and the gameplay
MG1 already did that
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>>339722814

I don't really like it that much
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>>339722923
I prefer 3 over NV
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>>339722814
Sure it's a good game but it's not better than mgs1.
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>>339723170
4 > 3 > 2 > 1
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>>339722923
Out.
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>>339722814
But is it even Pachinko?
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>>339722814
>Snake Eater

No. Subsistence wasn't bad though, shitty frame rate aside
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>>339723341
I see you can count backwards.
While that is impressive, it has nothing to do with this thread.
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>>339723170

I'll never get this 3 is good meme or 4 is bad meme. Especially considering the fact 4 improved every single stealth system that 3 introduced. The only thing 4 did wrong was MGO2. MGO1 will always be the best.
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>>339722814
I HATE IT
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>>339723458
Every game before GZ plays like shit
Story is what matters
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metal gear 3 remake in fox engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rszPXD8PSdY
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>>339723551

If every game before GZ played like shit how come Phantom Pain had no story and bad gameplay :^)
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>>339722814
>baby first mgs
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>>339722814
MGS2fags would argue you with that
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>>339723620
TPP had great gameplay and bad/unfinished story
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>>339723620
>bad gameplay
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>>339723294
>AC!D2 though non canon is the 2nd best MGS game ever made next to Ghost Babel.
What is this post
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>>339723551
If story is what matters then 2 was the very peak of MGS, everything else falls short.
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>>339723985
You're entitled to your opinion, but I was replying to your
>I'll never get this 3 is good meme or 4 is bad meme.
line
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>>339723985

>MGS2 had a good story
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>people still care about MGS after MGSV
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>>339724243
Compared to literally everything that followed? Its a goddamn masterpiece.
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>>339722923
That game is shit.
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why did Kojima leave Konami?
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i feel bad for people who don't like mgs2. I'm not arguing its better than 3, even though I think it is, I'm just showing sympathy for people who think the game or story was bad

It must hurt to be that way.
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>>339722814
>only game that /v/ universally likes
>posts soundtrack
well played anon
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>>339724515
He said in a non-baity way, anon.
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Except everyone on /v/ loves Dark Souls, and dissenters are culled

>pic ruhlated
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>>339722814
It's funny this is the only one I never beat
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>>339723842
Son, this is bait
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>>339722923
>terrible gunplay
>shitty level scaling
>perks that remove any kind of challenge or difficulty
>open world yet the initial pathway requires a specific route to take
>horrible gamebryo engine

oh but the writing is good and there's mods so it's a 10/10!

the writing is shit
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Why do you turbo autists give a shit about MGS lore? Holy shit it's just a good sealth game series in anime alternate reality with giant robots in the 80's and something about clones, nanomachines and parasites, if you take it that seriously you are a complete dumbass.

>waah waah mure lore muh story

>Caring this much about lore and story of a video game

Most metal gear solid games are great games, who gives a shit about muh nanomachines or whatever deus ex machina they use to cover the plotholes.
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>>339725252
>stealth in mgs
>good

rofl
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It's /v/'s favorite Metal Gear but it's still not universally liked
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>>339723620

>TPP had bad gameplay
>caring about story

TPP is a great game full of content and excellent gameplay, the only bad part is that the story is unfinished but before you even get to the end of chapter 2 there's several hours of gameplay.
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>>339722895
Epic bait, I just love it.

Nothing you said can be substantiated by fact.
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>>339724365
>V
>bad
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>>339725252
>Why do you turbo autists
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>>339725084

That's a big painting.
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>>339725252

>Holy shit it's just a good stealth game series
Even that's a stretch.
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MGS3 is alright, but I prefer 1 and 4. Solid Snake is my hero, not Big Boss.
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>>339723453
HD version fixes the framerate. No MGO, though
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>>339725469
if I gave you the peculiar doll, would you die?
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>>339725596

Are there private servers for MGO1?
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>>339725238
Initial pathway takes maybe 15 minutes to navigate

No way oyu played more than an hour
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>>339725494

To be fair MGS1 was pretty ground breaking.
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MGS3 with 4 or 5's engine and a system for switching predefined camouflage patterns in real-time would be GOAT military stealth game

The gameplay and control adjustments from those games were great and much needed, but everything else about them fell short of 3
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>>339723453
>>339725596
>>339725537

I don't have a PS3 or a PS2 anymore, is the 3DS version of MGS3 good? Does it run well on the New 3DS XL? I heard the framerate is shit and it's a bad port but I want to play MGS3.
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>>339725845
That's a really good question. I'm pretty sure I saw something about them using PCSX2, but iirc you need a really good computer for netplay on that since speedhacks are automatically disabled for syncing purposes.
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>>339726163
It's actually a pretty decent port if you get used to the controls
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>>339726214

I could just use original hardware.
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>>339725435
mgsv is pure shit you mobile game grind fest loving faggot
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>>339723083
I played 3 first and 2 is still my favourite
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>>339726214
Addendum: I might just be thinking of the third-party P2P branch of PCSX2. Release builds of the emulator do permit access to servers in the same manner that the actual network adaptor did, but I have no idea whether that allows speedhacks.
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I find MGS3 the hardest to replay. Maybe it's the menu navigation or just how you eventually notice how the survival/camo system is pretty gimmicky outside of a blind first playthrough.

I think MGS2 has the most replayability
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>>339726301

Interesting thanks, I heard the framerate is pretty bad on the old 3DS but it runs better on the New 3DS XL model which also has the camera control nub, I should get it then.
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>>339726379
I'd Google around for it then. I know Outbreak is being kept alive by fans, so I'd be more surprised if MGO1 didn't have something going for it.
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>>339726435

edgy contrarian opinions bro.
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JUST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rszPXD8PSdY
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>>339726574

It's capped to 20fps on both models because Kojipro are retards and didn't realise you can play without the 3D on
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>>339726553
I hated 3 the first time because I micromanaged the camo at every single point to always have maximum camo and it was really boring.

Now I'm replaying it on Hard and making myself only change my camo once at the beginning of each zone.

Tiger Stripe through one zone, squares through another zone. It's fun, makes you think of which route to take and where you can hide.
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>>339726860

>20fps cap

Absolutely fucking disgusting.
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>>339726973

Pretty sure SE run at close to that on release m8
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>>339727063
It did. The graphics were way ahead of their time, the PS2 could barely run it. There's a reason its one of the hardest game to emulate even nowadays on a powerful processor.
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>>339727148

Hell off a game though. I considered it great even before it was fixed on the rerelease
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>>339723132
While I respect Mega Man 2 a great deal, other than the OST everything it does is massively improved upon in 3 and 4.

MM2 is one of the most overrated games ever if you ignore the historic context. Yes, it helped popularizing MM, yes, it put down the MM formula, yes, it was influential. But I'd much rather play one of its sequels.
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>>339727753

MM3 was weak in some other ways. I felt 4 combined the best of 2 and 3.

Either way, 2 is really flawed.
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>>339725238
Do you like 3, 4, or the originals,or none of them
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There is no game here that is universally liked, there are games that are liked by the majority, and MGS 1-3 are among them, but none are universally liked.
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i don't like mgs 3 very much and i don't think this is the best game of the series, i think the opposite srsly no bait
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>>339728107
>lead bubble useless against flying enemies while being barely more useful than the normal buster against grounded ones
>heat shot uses up half (!) its energy when being fully charged, and is weak as piss when not charged
>leaf shield flies away when you move, can't actually be used as a barier weapon unless you want to sit in place
>time stopper can't be interrupted, and essentially just creates unkillable obstacles on most stages
>have to wait when you miss crash bomber since you cant control the explosion, also that fucking puzzle boss fight
>tornado shot is buggy and gives enemies weird i-frames
>item 3 is mostly useless
>metal blade breaks the game completely

Yeah, MM2 has pretty big oversights and flaws.

All that stuff was either reballanced or made more interesting in the form of search snakes, pharao shot, skull barier, flash stopper/that stun shot from MM3, drill bomber, magnet missile, rush, shadow blade, etc.
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>>339725375
I'm honestly upset that 4 lost to Metal Gear 1
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>>339725238
>>shitty level scaling
>>open world yet the initial pathway requires a specific route to take
Why would you go and tell lies on the internet, anon?
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>>339722814
Resident Evil 4
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>>339724737
To be fair most people who like MGS2's story only pretend to so they can sound smart on the internet. They don't actually understand it, because then they go on to praise MGS4 for being a perfect ending (when it actually shits on MGS2) or they criticize MGSV for having another meta-narrative.
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>>339730460
t. guy who still thinks MGS2 is VR
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>>339723575

this shit makes me feel six ways of salty
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>>339729431
but it won 58% to 42%
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>>339725252
Agreed, I recently played through the series in sequence; it was pretty hard to stomach most of the plot; especially MGS4.

For starters am I really supposed to believe the mysterious, all powerful patriots are just the lame support team from mgs3.

mgs2 was tolerable, but Big Boss in mgs3 was just so incompetent it made me cringe, needed his hand held every 5 minutes.
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>>339732104
Hand held?
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Hell yeah. Althought MGS2 is still my favorite.
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>>339725238
A game with good writing is a fucking miracle in videogames.
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>>339730747
Was it concretely VR? No, but the ENTIRE POINT is that whether or not things "really happened" in a fictional work is pointless. Snake outright tells you to worry about the message and the experiences you had playing, not to autistically nitpick over the timeline

I'm sorry you're retardd
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>>339730460
>>339730747
It's funny too, people who hate on MGS2 usually type and word like they're underaged.
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Cave Story. You will never find someone who will legitimately call it a bad game.
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I think Portal 1 is probably the closest we will get.
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This game is literally flawless.
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>>339722814
Overrated for what it is.

>>339722885
Shut up you pleb
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>>339733259
Thats dosent really address anything concerning how MGS4 "shits all over" MGS2

Its ok to not like the game, but dont lie and try to use other games to back it up. MGS4 had a solid message of its own that was buried beneath the bullshit and is very comparable to MGS2 in many ways.
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>>339733948
MGS4 was explicitly backhanded appeasement of idiots who didn't get MGS2

>oh you want explanation for Vamp? NANOMACHINES
>you want to know who the Patriots are? COMIC RELIEF FROM MGS3
>Oh you didn't like Raiden? HE'S A BADASS CYBORG NINJA BETTER THAN YOU IN EVERY WAY NOW
>Oh you wanted to play as Solid Snake again? Oh he's a tired old man who hates his life and just wants to die (just like Kojima)
>You want answers? Here, have 10 hour cutscenes that explain fucking everything
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>>339723170
>copypasta but posting it again because why not
Yeah fuck MGS4 for having movie oriented cutscenes instead of boring audiotapes

for having condensed linear gameplay with proxy war hot zones instead of an empty open world with only narrow valleys and USSR soldiers having no local resistance fighters

for having classic boss fights instead of 4 split apart bullet sponge mini bosses

for having a difficulty system that works instead of an artificial difficulty system that gets easier as you progress with a slo mo handicap system

for having a life bar instead of health regen mechanics

for having good plot twists instead of opening credits that spoil the mission level's character debuts

for having an irl weapon shop instead of waiting 36 minutes for a fake gun to be made (where a max of 3 can only be carried with you)

for having a compelling orchestral instead of greatest hits from the 80's

for having an emotional heartfelt ending that wrapped loose ends instead of an open ended "lol you make up the headcanon" bullshit ending that leaves you confused and hanging with plot holes to fill

for having an endgame villain worth fighting against instead of a phantom prequel villain used as a plot device that you never get to fight

for not shoehorning a Metal Gear and relying on characters to drive the plot

for writing Ocelot in character instead of a boring lifeless drone

for having a David Hayter voiced Snake that actually talks instead of a mute action sock puppet being told what to do

For having a fun gameplay that changes with each act instead of repetitive missions played for the sake of grinding to win more goodies to grind with yet again...for the sake of experimenting

for having Codec calls instead of walkie talkie horseshit

for having advanced tech fit with the timeline of the story

for having a game to be played instead of a Chao garden dollhouse simulator
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>>339734172
>MGS4 was explicitly backhanded appeasement of idiots who didn't get MGS2

Exactly. MGS2 was "lets move on with our lives" and MGS4 was "no seriously just fucking end it"

Its perfect, especially after that wanky shitshow which was MGS3, which was also made for very similar reasons. Idiots who just wanted to play as Snake got their cardboard cutout with a very barebornes story to boot.


Old Snake is also the best version
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>>339722923
Modern Fallout is garbage
And I tried to fucking like New Vegas for almost 30 hours before I tapped out
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>>339722814
It was controversial thanks to having to go into the menu for camo changing and the food/health systems were underdeveloped but that was it. Some people didn't like it because it stuck to a very basic but developed story and didn't pull an MGS2 on them
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>>339725435
V is objectively the worst of the series.
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MGS3 is one of those games that had lots of cool ideas that ended up being awkward in their execution. You spent half your play-time in a menu. The controls are also clunky. Subsistence did improve it slightly but there are plenty of games released around the same time that felt much better to control so there's not really much of an excuse for it.

I personally enjoyed it but it's not hard to see why others would dislike it.
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>>339734456
>MGS4 having gameplay

HAAH WAAW

>good bosses

LMAO, they're even bigger bullet sponges than the Skulls, and at least you're never ever forced to fight the Skulls.

>good plot twists

DUDE BIG BOSS IS ALIVE DUDE OCELOT WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE LIQUID THROUGH NANOMACHINES LMAOOOOOOO

>actually enjoying the excessive wordy cutscenes because it EXPLAINED things

oh fuck off m8.
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>>339725494
>>339725371
Found the Splinter Cell babbies
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>>339722814
It was garbage, they fucked it so bad with camera angles and menu scrolling they had to release it as a new game to fix these problems. MGS3 is shit, the fixed version is pretty good tho.


Kojimbo fucked up so bad they had to rerelease it.
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>We pachinko shit now

It was inevitable but it still angers me.
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>>339722814
LOL that game is shit anon, what the fuck, /v/ is one person and the only game they like is STALKER, because it's a meme to like it and normies haven't discovered it yet!
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>>339722814
Huge letdown after MGS2. Story went down the shitter, camera barely worked in the original game, the general tone of the game went from a CIA conspiracy documentary to a Saturday morning cartoon.
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>>339734857
You picked 4 flaws that are easily arguable while ignoring the rest.
I like the wordy cutscenes because it's part of the MGS game instead of sitting through dialogue audiotapes where the story happens to someone else, somewhere else. In MGS4, you're in the middle of it.

The bosses are the structured the same as in the previous 3 games. Are you actually fucking defending the Skulls in V as genuine boss fights? Even Sahelanthropus was a shit show if you use D-Walker. And Quiet is a watered down version of Sniper Wolf, Crying Wolf, and The End. Not to mention, Man on Fire is a fucking joke as a "fight". Nor do you get to fight Skullface or confront Zero as the villain.

And about the good plot twists, I'm talking the missions you fucking spastic. Guest Starring: Skullface kind of ruins the surprise at the end. And the plot twist is bad as opposed to what?
DUDE MEDIC IS BIG BOSS DUDE SKULLFACE WANTS TO GET RID OF WORDS THROUGH PARASITES LMAOOOOOOO

>and at least you're never ever forced to fight the Skulls.
Then why even play the game if boss fights are optional? Holy shit, V fanboys are absolute trash.
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>>339735383
That Sunday morning cartoon tone was intentional. It was trying to model the campy Bond movies of the 60's and 70's. Although it came out to be more Lazenby/Moore in tone than a Connery movie.
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>>339735582
>why even play the game if boss fights are optional?

Because MGSV is structured as an open-ended game that puts player agency and decision above all else. I'm sorry you've admitted you enjoy MGS because it's an incomprehensible moviegame, but some people really enjoyed the open-ended nature of MGSV. I liked that I was able to sneak past the skulls the first time and was able to go back and fight them to complete the optional objectives.

and before you say "hurr durr u only like it cuz it was ur first metal gear" I played MGS1 back in 1998 so fuck off.
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>>339734857
>HAAH WAAW
another brilliant rebuttal from a resident manchild of /v/
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>>339735582
>DUDE MEDIC IS BIG BOSS

At the very least the Medic twist has to do with the core meta-narrative of the game. Big Boss showing up in MGS4 was just pure unadulterated fanservice for idiots who wanted everything tied with with a pink bow.
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>>339736141
As good as the Big Boss scene was, it totally killed ALL impact of everything that came before it.

All they had to do was roll the credits after Snake pulled the trigger, an that would've been everything that needed to be done.
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Ace Combat 04, 5, & Zero
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>>339722814
The healing system is dumb in its execution, and it should be impossible to use unless there flat aren't enemies around.

That's it, it's a perfect video game otherwise.
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>>339733259
So if that's the message how can mgs4 shit on it? Why do you care what concretely happens in 2 according to mgs4? Did you miss the point of mgs2?
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>>339735870
>Because MGSV is structured as an open-ended game
No, it isn't. Each mission is confiscated within several lines.
>BOSS, YOU'RE LEAVING THE MISSION AREA
is not open world. And what open world is there if there is nothing to see along the way when you explore a lá Fallout and GTA counterparts. Those canyons force you to go one way. What's the point of open world if you're restricted to 2 chopper landing areas? What's the point of open world when there are no indoor bases or buildings? Even the fucking bases are structured in a way that you have to traverse through them in a linear structure, like that parasite experimentation lab, and OKB Zero.

>that puts player agency and decision above all else
Yeah, running away when I'm close to dying sure is a prime example of agency and decision. Even when I die, everyone is marked so now it's even easier to "sneak" back in.

>I'm sorry you've admitted you enjoy MGS because it's an incomprehensible moviegame
You don't have to be sorry, do you need a tissue?
>but some people really enjoyed the open-ended nature of MGSV
And those people have no taste. MGS isn't the first to appeal to the common denominator of Call of Duty gameplay conditioned FPS dopamine-induced junkies by making an ending prequel a derivative of CoD. Bungie did the same with Reach.

>I liked that I was able to sneak past the skulls the first time and was able to go back and fight them to complete the optional objectives.
Good for you kiddo, you just proved there are no real boss fights in V.

>and before you say "hurr durr u only like it cuz it was ur first metal gear" I played MGS1 back in 1998 so fuck off.
As if I give a flying fuck. I don't even believe you, but let's go with it for shits and gigs, I don't care what game you started with. It could've been MG1 in 87, you have shit taste if you defend V.

And why the fuck am I earning Heroism points if I'm supposed to be demonic Big Boss? Where is Dr. Madnar, Bloody Brad, Shotmaker, etc?
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>>339736141
>Core meta-narrative

Holy shit this video game forum has some complicated jargon
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>>339725084
A good portion of people on /v/ dislike it

>"demons souls was better"
>"it casualized the souls brand"
>"babby's first difficult game"
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>>339722814
MGS2 is the patrician choice
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>>339722814
I like the pachinko port
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>>339736141
>At the very least the Medic twist has to do with the core meta-narrative of the game. Big Boss showing up in MGS4 was just pure unadulterated fanservice for idiots who wanted everything tied with with a pink bow.
Yeah it gave a nice ending instead of a plothole that shits all over the canon and previous games. So Big Boss the legendary merc who made Outer Heaven was just a medic double who "downloaded" (what the fuck) all his memories and CQC through hypnosis? Who also looks, sounds, and has emotions exactly like him through 80's plastic surgery? Enough.
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>>339735786
>it's intentinally bad!
So? It's still bad.
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>>339737104
>And why the fuck am I earning Heroism points if I'm supposed to be demonic Big Boss? Where is Dr. Madnar, Bloody Brad, Shotmaker, etc?

You're the equivalent of the shitters who cried about MGS2 because it wasn't the story that was advertised and they had to play as Raiden.

DUDE WHY WEREN'T THE 8 BIT ONE DIMENSIONAL VILLAINS FROM METAL GEAR 1 IN THIS GAME
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>>339724243
>liking MGS3's "muh first spy movie" shit plot over the masterpiece in mindfuckery that is MGS2
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>>339723458
4's levels were incredibly linear and Drebin's shop pretty much took away any incentive to be stealthy, since you can just go guns blazing with all the OP weapons and ammo you want by the halfway point.
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>>339737348
>Yeah it gave a nice ending instead of a plothole that shits all over the canon and previous games

Are you implying making Zero and the comic relief from MGS3 the patriots didn't shit all over the canon of previous games?

regardless, Kojima has NEVER cared about canon in Metal Gear and you're retarded if you think otherwise. Every game retcons shit from previous games in order for him to tell a story about the theme he wants to explore. He's always been more interested in a core idea and exploring the nature of video games themselves than documenting fictional events and autistically adhering to a fictional timeline
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>>339737595
The same can be done with V and MGS3. MGS3 can be easily played Rambo styled with an M60, it's the easiest way to beat the End. You're complaining about freedom of choice. And 4, like 3, 2, and 1, are linear that works, instead of open gameplay that is empty.

I forgot to mention, V actually didn't have gameplay, not with a story that ends in a Chapter and half. Missions are just die ops with dialogue, and the latter half of the game has repeated missions.

REPEATED MISSIONS
MISSIONS YOU ALREADY DID
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>>339737435
Are you replying to the wrong guy or something?

If not then what the fuck are you talking about
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>>339733640
Except it was right up until Last Corridor or whatever the fuck it was called.
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>>339737378
I never said it was bad, you're putting words into my post. If it's bad to you, then that's on you. I actually like the cheesy 60's Adam West styled tone of it.
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>>339737435
No, I'm not you faggot. With the MGS2 twist that came, it was executed perfectly. I wouldn't mind the Medic twist if I would at least saw an ending to this game. Since Portable McFucking Ops, I've been seeing
THE MISSING LINK THAT COMPLETES THE SAGA
So Peace Walker came, nope.
Ground Zeroes came, nope.
MGSV came, hell fucking nope.
One thing is to not give something as advertise (hell I'll give the cut content being advertised a huge pass) but MGS2 closed the twist in one game, instead of dragging it on for 1 canon mobile game, a non-canon mobile game, and 3/4's of two "games" put together.

>>339737703
>Are you implying making Zero and the comic relief from MGS3 the patriots didn't shit all over the canon of previous games?
You're the equivalent of the shitters who cried about MGS2 because it wasn't the story that was advertised and they had to play as Raiden.
And no I'm not implying, because I damn well mean it. I knew that scarred Bondesque character was going to be a villain since the start of MGS3.
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>>339737878
>what the fuck are you talking about

You're upset the game didn't tie up the saga into a nice little bow like you were led to believe by the trailers. You got rused, and you're butthurt about it. You wanted a hamfisted revenge story where Big Boss turned into an 8 bit pixel villain, instead you got a story that was the ultimate realization of the connection between player and avatar that had been explored in the series since MGS2.

You're literally the same thing as the shitters who complained about MGS2, and you would have been right there with them back then, because there weren't smarter people than you on youtube to explain the plot twist to you.
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>>339738559
Why always with the mgs2 ending explanations?

That has got to be the dumbest way to call someone stupid.

What is there in mgs2 that needs to be explained?
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>>339722814
I've never played any MGS game before, but I watched my brother play through the first one when I was little.

What's so godlike about the franchise? Should I play it? What makes it so interesting, and which games are the good ones? When does it start to suck?
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>>339739265
Fuck off filthy casual.
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>>339725596
HD version isn't solid 60fps. The only way to get that is through emulation.

>>339726163
It has a lower frame rate than the PS2. It's complete garbage.
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>>339740004
>this hostility
Take a nap.

>>339739265
Just emulate the first one. then keep playing until 4. Or you can play V and see how bad this series ended.
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>>339740872
MGS3 is 60fps but suffers frame drops occasionally from the fire and lightning effects from Volgin and Fury

The only reason you can get 60fps in emulation is because it drops most of the visual effects and even then you need a high end machine
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>>339741074
It suffers frame drops all the time and it's only 720p. Just emulate it if you have a good PC.

It doesn't drop any effects.
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>>339740910
>Or you can play V and see how bad this series ended.

>it's an actual video game
>bad

lmao, if anything he's gonna hate the old games and love the new ones because he doesn't have an autistic devotion to a fictional timeline that was never important to the series anyway
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>>339739265
I hvaent played mgs ether
Hepl helper only lits me play rabit games
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