did they make the controls as bad as possible as a joke? after a year of not touching this, and playing souls games, and metal gear solid 5, i thought i'd go back and finish witcher 3. the controls feel horrendous compared to games from 16 years ago. what did they spend the 50 million on?
Presentation values and writing, just like the previous game.
>>339681413
>what did they spend the 50 million on?
Making fake trailers and marketing. CDPR is Ubisoft in Polack clothing.
W3 is better than Souls games, at least.
MGSV is comparable to W3; MGSV probably edges it out, though it's a different genre.
What problems did you have with it? I haven't played it recently but I don't recall anything horrendous
I used to think the combat was awful but i just literally started playing again, not even an hour ago, and I actually think the combat is actually decent and effective. You get two different kinds of dodging and if you keep using the long dodge you should be able to get out of combat easily most of the time and manage the mobs effectively. I do agree however shit like the werewolf where absolute fucking bullshit for my pleb ass however and I had to cheese it.
>>339681769
ebin
>>339681740
>CDPR is Ubisoft in Polack clothing.
you mean its EA
>>339681812
it's just totally unresponsive. you choose a sword and nothing happens for a second, then he draws it. you hit forward, and he lurches a few feet from just a tap. it's cumbersome and heavy. metal gear solid 5 on the other hand has the most precise controls i've ever felt. you can move as slow or as fast as you want, turn on a dime, stop immediately, fly over terrain no big deal. everything you do in witcher 3 just feels like work. you have to wrestle the controls to climb, you have to fight geralt to make him run properly, the horse can't go 5 seconds without clipping into every piece of geometry, even on autopilot.
>>339681769
>W3 is better than Souls games, at least.
not in any department except cinematics.
>>339681845
>Werewolf
That's why it pays to get your bestiary filled out, you can do this by reading books out in the world.
does anyone get this tunnel vision feeling with the camera view, I keep trying to play it but it's just so uncomfortable I feel like I can't see anything, only game it's ever happened with
>>339682064
I don't like the witcher that much but you're a fucking retard you know that
>>339682064
change movement to alternative, makes it more responsive in my opinion
>>339682491
here's your (you)
![the_witcher_3_poet_under_pressure_walkthrough[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ajhOUnj.jpg "the_witcher_3_poet_under_pressure_walkthrough[1].jpg")
>>339681845
>werewolf where absolute fucking bullshit
>one of the best fights is bullshit
Damn, sorry it be like that for you. At least you enjoy it overall.
This is a prime example of why most people think W3's combat is bad, though: they just don't understand it, and therefore don't perform well. (See >>339682064, presumably OP).
W3 is definitely unlike the Souls' arcadey style, but definitely better. More options, more strategic, while still requiring fast reactions and awareness.
I suppose there's no accounting for taste, though. I'm sure someone thinks Ghouls 'n Ghosts has superior combat to Souls or W3. That's just the next step of abstraction.
Less Abstracted - - - More Abstracted
W3 - Souls - GnG
>>339682625
>W3 is definitely unlike the Souls' arcadey style, but definitely better
CDPR shills will spout any bullshit. Go fuck yourself.
>>339682625
it can have all the options in the world, but the controls are too mechanical and unresponsive for it to matter. souls games controls are butter, witcher 3 handles like a bag of doorknobs in a washing machine.
>>339682491
he's not wrong about the controls, there's a slight delay when you want to turn and move around, it's like an animation priority thing or something, the one other game that his something like this was GTA5 and it was way worse in that game, compared to DaS3 or DaS1 where I can turn any direction smoothly without any animation delay of sorts, looks funny but it's responsive.
>>339682064
Change the movement to alternative and/or use a controller.
>>339682786
in gta it doesn't matter so much because you're mostly in aim mode during combat anyway, it's awful in W3
>>339682769
>but the controls are too ... unresponsive
That's just wrong though. Assuming you're not retarded, pressing the wrong buttons, or simply reacting too slowly, it could be your setup.
Maybe you need to upgrade your computer or get a better keyboard, if your inputs are getting dropped. Not the game's fault though.
I have absolutely zero issues, and always perform actions exactly when and how I expect to perform them.
You have to think ahead, though, and read your opponents. You can't just decide to throw out a heavy swing and then get mad when a drowner slaps you quickly. That's not the game's fault, that's your fault.
>>339682769
>souls games controls are butter
Oh yeah, especially the lock system. Infallible.
>>339682769
It's intentional. Clunky gameplay is good gameplay according to CDPR drones.
>the bitch from the CGI trailer last year was actually a character in the game
>the trailer takes place after B&W when you tell her to leave the city
I fucking love details like this
>>339682762
To be fair there bist a lot of depth to souls combat. The game was made as a simple gauntlet game with nice ambiance, the combat in no way is reflective of any sort of deep system.
>>339683313
*there isn't
Phone posting senpai
>>339683264
>i fucking love planned dlc and sucking slav cock
Neo /v/ is now
>>339682792
>Change the movement to alternative and/or use a controller.
i am using a controller. alternative does look better, but it only alleviates 20% of the problem.
>>339683150
i have to wonder if cdpr fans are actually retarded. i never said a single thing about combat, not once. and you cut out the important complaint i have, which is the game feeling completely mechanical. the issue is you can only do one thing at a time, sometimes 2. i can jog and take my sword out. or run and jump. mgs5 i can spring, dive, aim my gun, and fire in nearly a single motion. witcher 3 feels so much worse in every single way that i wonder if they were just completely incapable of doing better.
>>339683232
it's not the best, and it's still miles better than the target system in witcher 3.
>>339683259
i should have known that since 1's gameplay is basically ddr on a mouse.
>>339681413
set it to easy and press X to win. Witcher games always had shit tier gameplay. This one is no exception.
I wish the game was good enough so I could play it on death march however I can't stand the load times with how much I'm gonna be dying regardless. I think this game would have been far better without the difficulty meter. I don't know why western rpgs need to do that, it makes the genre less enjoyable because it is hardly ever done right. Maybe kingdom hearts but that's it.
>>339683646
>set it to easy and press X to win
i already have the spin attack to beat every single enemy.
>>339683741
whirlwind? It doesn't always work on Death March. I still use it all the time, if only to have a quick follow up strike. The combat system is retarded.
![0e38a8_e53980bf586d4a0aa0f1de98535170d4.jpg_srz_561_720_85_22_0.50_1.20_0[1].00_jpg_srz.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/roPLMZX.jpg "0e38a8_e53980bf586d4a0aa0f1de98535170d4.jpg_srz_561_720_85_22_0.50_1.20_0[1].00_jpg_srz.jpg")
>>339683510
Damn, you seem pretty upset about being bad at a video game, though.
You'd probably feel better if you just stuck to easier games that you can understand, than to constantly whinge and shit-post about a particular game that is well received, both critically and by consumers at large.
>le witcher 3 has horrible controls meme
You faggots dont even know what youre talking about.They fixed tank/sluggish geralt long time ago with a setting in the options menu.
Stop sperging on one of the actual games that does not shit on its playerbase
>>339683150
i like everytime someone points out an obvious flaw you call him retarded
witcher fanboys are sad
>>339682064
>metal gear solid 5 on the other hand has the most precise controls i've ever felt. you can move as slow or as fast as you want, turn on a dime, stop immediately
You are so full of shit. MGSV has the same, over-animated, shit controls that Witcher 3 has. Play the previous MGS games if you want to see what turning on a dime actually looks like. Play Thief, or Quake, if you want to see what truly smooth and precise controls are like.
>>339683510
>i have to wonder if cdpr fans are actually retarded
>fans
They're not fans. They're actual CDPR employees. No fan is this retarded.
>>339683940
Nice dodge Marcin.
Witcher games have always had bad controls, it's a tradition.
>>339683859
>The combat system is retarded.
it shouldn't have random moves. the worst is when you just need a quick strike, and geralt does the big retarded ballerina move which gets you dunked on your ass.
>>339683940
keep trying.
>>339684101
how much are you being paid?
>>339684143
the last one just proved it.
>>339684101
Up you times a million.
>>339683986
I invite you to read the message again.
Here, I'll even highlight the pertinent section.
>Assuming you're not retarded, pressing the wrong buttons, or simply reacting too slowly, it could be your setup.
>Assuming you're not retarded
>NOT retarded
The rest of the post goes on to describe solutions and situations, using this assumption.
Re-think your argument and come back with something better.
>>339684248
>muh random moves
That never fucking happens, you trashcan. If you are going for frontal attacks without any sort of preparation of course they are going to dunk your stupid ass because enemies try to trade hits.
If you weren't a blithering retard you'd at least parry or dodge to the side before attacking.
>>339684352
unfortunately, telling someone to stop being retarded doesn't help, because you're still posting away.
>>339683986
Hating something because is better/more popular than a game you think is good, is even more sad.
>>339684248
>it shouldn't have random moves. the worst is when you just need a quick strike, and geralt does the big retarded ballerina move which gets you dunked on your ass.
There area lot of things it should not have. His moves aren't random, they are based on distance, system fucks up constantly though, he also has a habit of throwing out moves that will barely miss, ignoring ones that will hit. Hitboxes and positioning is fucked as well. He even misses on riposte animations.
Game is buggy, that's it. They still haven't fixed horseriding,and latest patch killed my hope in anything. Just enjoy the story and atmosphere.
>>339684473
>enemy does nothing
>press light attack
>geralt swings normally
>next enemy does nothing
>press light attack from same distance
>geralt twirls and swings right over his head
yeah you're right, i must have hit the secret combo that makes me have different moves from pressing the same button. almost like the game chooses random moves.
Buying cdpr shills
>>339684248
>how much are you being paid?
To do what? Shill 20 year old games and tell you how shit your opinions are? I do it for free.
Witcher 3 has fucking awful controls, but it's something you learn to put up with.
In general Geralt moves too floaty and turns way too fast, also in combat it fucking locks you on to the closest person, which means combat becomes a clusterfuck when fighting multiple foes at once.
This is why I went full signs build with Griffon Armour set, just aoe the fuck out of everything.
>>339683940
I'm guessing you're just joking considering that Witcher 3's combat is some of the easiest and simplest in any action game sans Arkham.
Anyway, OP, I wholeheartedly agree with you. WorthABuy is one of the few reviewers who actually called out CDPR on the absolutely shit, sloppy as fuck movement controls. The delay and overshooting is completely insane in Witcher 3, I honestly am blown away that it even passed playtesting, let alone released in a sixty-dollar title.
Witcher 3 overall was trash though, so if you can, definitely refund it. The combat was awful, the story amounted to "you do a favor for me and I'll tell you where to go to find another person" repeated infinitely, the "puzzles" were braindead due to magical Witcher senses, basically everything important sucked horribly. The graphics were fantastic and the voice acting was excellent, but the combat, quests and storytelling were all unforgivable.
OP, if you still can, refund that shit. Don't support games with braindead combat. https://youtu.be/QIeEZeKN8JE
>>339684487
Huh, it's weird. You completely disregard anything you read and just make up stories for yourself on the spot. Why even bother linking a particular post?
>mfw salty soulsfags cant find any other flaws to pick on instead of controls meme
>>339684617
>just throwing attacks willy nilly
See this is why you are fucking retarded. You are incapable of understanding you are not meant to just wail away at enemies but rather use the tools available to you to break their defenses.
>>339684789
>gameplay and interaction is a meme
Witcher fans, everyone.
>>339684556
sure buddy
your game is the best
>>339684861
Who are you quoting?
Who is everyone?
It's just you and one other guy shitting on W3 because you can't comprehend it.
>>339682305
Turn down camera speed. That helped me a lot. Also I think you can turn off motion blur which might help as well
>>339684789
The combat was shallow and unsatisfying, the quests were braindead due to Witcher senses, the story amounted to "do this favor and I'll tell you where to go so you can do another favor for someone who will tell you where to go so you can do another favor for someone" repeated infinitely. So combat, quests, storytelling, and controls were all trash. Granted, it is very pretty trash, the character models looked completely gorgeous. But it's trash nonetheless.
>>339684983
Wait are you fucking retarded?
>>339682305
not alone. keep switching between kbam and ds4 and am uncomfortable with each. movement feels like im slipping around and combat is a mess. really want to like it.
>>339681413
Graphics. Dumbass.
>>339684851
>2 button presses
>willy nilly
should i slow it down to one attack per minute? go easier on the engine so it doesn't have to calculate almost 4 things at once? telling me how to drive the car doesn't help when the car is missing 2 wheels and an ignition. the fact that dayz has more responsive controls, and those are literally linked to a fucking server lets you know something is incredibly wrong with witcher 3. i'm just going to assume that 50 million dollar budget was cut in half to pay for their review scores. i have never seen an rpg bring so little to the table, and get praised for it. bioware does controls better, and that's the saddest statement i'll make all year.
>>339685090
Gears of war 3 looks better
>>339684781
>Witcher 3 was trash overall
that level of delusing, fuck
>quests poorly written
At last you admit you did not play the game.
this game has one weapon and only 5 spells ...
you can't make this shit up
>>339681845
>werewolf
dimitrium bombs to stop the health regen and hybrid oil.
>>339685128
Hit twice. Enemy will either counter or dodge. React accordingly. Combat is so easy in this game, dont know how you guys fuck it up so bad lmao
>>339685214
Literally everything is written like shit especially the main game. Everything except for hearts of stone.
![article-1258513-08BC478A000005DC-781_634x853[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ASSfZaJ.jpg "article-1258513-08BC478A000005DC-781_634x853[1].jpg")
>>339685057
No, I'm genuinely curious who you think you're appealing to by invoking the word "everyone."
You also didn't quote the post you linked to, so I don't know who you're quoting.
>>339685128
>should I punch the wall repeatedly or once per minute
>>339684962
Stop projecting
>witcher
>bad controls
What did OP mean by this?
>>339685214
The entire story boils down to doing favours so you can do favours. It's Red Dead Redemption tier of awful storytelling.
Some of the sidequests are quite good in their little bubble, but why is that the only thing the end of a trilogy is good at?
>>339685347
projecting what?
can't even use buzzwords anon?
>>339685141
I wasn't defending it. The question was where the money went. Dumbass.
>>339685354
People think they can just attack spam everything and when it doesn't work its the controls fault
>>339685282
i was enjoying the story until >>339685034
every quest was just doing someone a favour so they would tell you something. that's all you got. even the best story in the game, the bloody baron, was 100% doing favours for story time. honestly, i can't think of anything that was good in this game. the character models were nice, but metal gear solid 5 did that better to, so what's the point?
the story of witcher 3 is like an episdoe of Dr Phill
all social problem bullshit
>>339685439
Your own insecurities.Cant into comprehension anon?
>>339685615
you just projected
wew
>>339685532
I feel like this is the kind of joke you keep repeating to your small group of d&d friends because they laughed the first time. You're the funny guy of the group
>>339685719
it is though
>I am the baron and i beated my wife so she left
literally Dr Phill
>>339685214
Can you point out to me where I said the quests were poorly written? Protip: I never said that. Some of the quests were genuinely good, but they were few and far between. For example, the aborted zombie fetus quest was very poignant (albeit nasty as absolute fuck) and had a great use of player choice. But overall the storytelling and gameplay faltered greatly due to both Witcher senses trivializing each "puzzle", combat being simplistic and unsatisfying, and lastly the insane repetition of "do this favor for me and I'll tell you who to find so you can do a favor for them and they'll tell you who to find so you can do a favor" ad nauseam. It was almost patronizing honestly.
>>339685378
"The entire story boils down to doing favours so you can do favours." Exactly this. For a game that's wildly praised for its story, I can't believe no one points out how repetitive the writing is.
>>339685789
Are you underage or
>>339685532
>the story of souls is like abstract painting
>i got no idea what im painting, ill just let retards believe what they want, and then call it art
I bought the game recently and I think this too. Even the running around is unresponsive and clunky. It feels like I'm handling a russian tank instead of a polish monster hunter
The combat is annoying too because the way the dodges and attacks work is so fucking random. I can't choose the animation that comes out when I press light or heavy, its all dependent on distance
So if I press heavy and geralt decides to do a slow as fuck big as fuck jump forward that takes 2 years, 3 bandits will have time to eat breakfast, get married and then come back and hit me. Its ridiculously unresponsive and not even close to being as snappy as it should.
Beyond the controls, is this really what people pay 60+ bucks for? Seriously? The quest design is fucking horrendous, the dialogue is 90% irrelevant stupid jabbering, the open world is barren and devoid of anything interesting, and even the hailed story is just so ridiculously bland
I know people play the Witcher for the characters, but fucking really, people spend 60+ bucks just so see these characters talk? Why? Why shouldn't I just watch this shit on youtube and rid myself of the horrible controls and blatantly boring quests that have you follow red breadcrumbs with your Batman Detective Visi- Witcher senses 95% of the time?
Stories in video games was a mistake
>>339685789
Btfo
![warning-analogies13[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mO3QWq3.jpg "warning-analogies13[1].jpg")
>>339685128
>telling me how to drive the car
Sure, since you brought up this analogy, I'll try to put things in terms you'll understand.
When driving a car, one must account for the fact that pressing the accelerator pedal does not instantly, or even linearly translocate the vehicle.
Similarly, pressing the brake pedal does not instantly or linearly stop the vehicle.
Also, the steering wheel is not a completely intuitive device, as its degree of rotation does not reflect the degree of rotation of the vehicle's wheels.
As a result, it is necessary to take the time to instruct new drivers before they're allowed on the roads.
Unfortunately for you, there was no barrier to entry for playing the video game, Witcher 3.
There exists no instructional material or educational institution for playing Witcher 3 properly.
So, left to your own devices, you wallow in failure and dejection.
If, instead of complaining, you took the time to listen to the advice of more competent players, or strove to better yourself, you would find the issue lies not within your tools but within yourself.
Hope this clears things up.
>>339685947
>>339685876
the salt !
Quick drink some water
>>339685947
souls games stories take a back seat to the gameplay. witcher 3's story is the most important part, and it's not that good.
>>339685693
I see you dont know what that means
>>339685978
how did i got BTFO exactly?
>>339685072
Yeah I'm going to it from fallout 4 and I really want to enjoy another rpg but damn I can't ever do more than one quest without feeling like it's a chore, there's something awful about the inventory barter system that makes everything feel muddy, plus gwent is some unfun shit
>>339685978
That's your own post. You're not fooling anyone
>>339686092
Gwent is one of the best things to happen to vidya in years
>>339686005
>When driving a car...
you did it again. the car is missing wheels and i can't start the engine. THIS is the issue. don't fucking spend 10 minutes slapping your keyboard telling me how to drive when half the car is lying on the ground, and the other half has no wheels. you can't drive that. stop being a retard and ignoring every point i make, then violently retaliating by telling me i'm playing wrong. be older than 12 for a minute.
>>339685973
Fucking this. Beautifully said. A so-called "10/10" game should not have sloppy controls, shallow combat, quests that amount to pressing Witcher sense and pressing A on red objects, and a story that amounts to doing favors to unlock new favors to do more favors to unlock more favors. I know I've said all of those points already, I'm just still in complete awe that this game got near-perfect scores across the board. Worthabuy is the only reviewer I've seen that actually gave it a thumbs-down. If anyone knows any other reviewers that gave it a low score, I'll gladly subscribe to them.
>>339686013
>salty
High level memes here
>>339686182
it's kind of fun but the collecting and deck building is just so anti fun, seems like a pay to win tcg and I've played basically all the decent tcgs in the past 20 years, I like the pokery kind of feel to it but the fact that you only get to play the one hand you get is kinda boring
>>339686395
I think he might actually be autistic. I dont know why he keeps saying phill too. No one is named phill. Phil yeah.
>>339686370
So you guys are just butthurt that witcher got goty 10/10 and bloodborne did not?
>>339686478
you are such a cringy samefag
>>339686532
bloodborne didn't have the budget to pay for a 10/10.
>>339686532
I'm butt hurt because I paid 60 bucks for a game I can't seem to enjoy no matter how hard I try. I guess I just need to sell it
>>339685973
>I can't choose the animation that comes out when I press light or heavy, its all dependent on distance
>So if I press heavy and geralt decides to do a slow as fuck big as fuck jump forward that takes 2 years, 3 bandits will have time to eat breakfast, get married and then come back and hit me. Its ridiculously unresponsive and not even close to being as snappy as it should.
This is a textbook example of the lack of critical thinking and proclivity to exaggeration present in Witcher 3 "critics."
Let me try to break it down.
>I can't choose the animation that comes out when I press light or heavy
If this is true, then why is it immediately recognized that
>its all dependent on distance
>heavy
and
>slow
Should be obvious.
>that takes 2 years
>3 bandits will have time to eat breakfast, get married and then come back and hit me
I don't want to harp on this too much, since everyone was 14 once, but this is fairly damning evidence against rational cognition.
Gwent grows on you, I guess. I myself think that playing fucking Yugioh in medieval Poland is the most hilarious immersion-breaking shit when the previous games had sensible pasttimes--DICE and then blackjack? Yeah, I think it was blackjack.
Then suddenly in Witcher 3 i'm playing Magic: The Gathering. And every single peasant in Velen is, too. What the hell happened.
That said I guess it grew on me, i'll play and sort of enjoy it. Monster Decks are fucking BULL SHIT though.
>here let me just play this card that summons 5 more cards
>every fucking round i just get to spam summon an absurd number of Melee monsters
Bitter Frost helps to nerf the piss out of what would otherwise be the AI being able to just magically pull like 40+ attack strength hordes out every round out of its fucking arsehole, but jesus christ FUCK YOU monster decks.
>>339686013
>9gager visits /v/
>>339682625
More options? You mean between using swords that all function identically, or the fire spell?
>>339686535
Every meme word ever. And this is literally what you are doing wew lad cuck much more like kek salty buzz word cringe. Go back to /b/ dude
>>339681413
git gud, faggot
>>339686628
it reminds me of the card game in the skeleton casino in Nino Kuni but that was way more fun
>>339686246
I deliberately rejected your fantasy, because it is not representative of the actual situation, no matter how badly you want it to be.
You're not missing "wheels." You can, in fact, start the "engine." You're simply mishandling them in such an egregious way as to make you believe this is the case.
>>339686532
I never even played Bloodbourne. You're using a fallacious technique called deflecting. Instead of responding to any of the four points I made, you chose to deflect the issue. My main point is that a game with absolute shit combat and sloppy controls should not recieve higher than an 8/10. However, "shit combat" is of course completely open to interpretation. For example, some people greatly enjoy Arkham-style combat, where as I find it monotonous, shallow, and incredibly mind-numbing. Witcher 3's combat isn't as shallow as Arkham's, but it's still mediocre and unsatisfying in my personal opinion.
>>339686628
Monster decks are so easy to bait with spy cards, decoys and weather cards. All you have to do is make em waste all their cards. Simple since most of their decks draw like three cards from their hand each play.
>>339686621
>i dont know how to enjoy games
Consider stopping then.Also redunds. Sorry that 60 bucks represent a large sum for you.
>>339686834
>You're simply mishandling them in such an egregious way as to make you believe this is the case.
yeah, or your reading comprehension is so much lower than the global standard that you have a hard time understanding what anyone is saying.
Let's have everyone agree: Gwent is the tightest shit.The controls of the rest of the game pure suck though
>>339686535
>people call him out
>surely samefag
Stop embarassing yourself
>>339686849
I've never understood the hate for Batman combat. Are people just mashing the standard attack button?
>that first Beast of Baeuclair fight
>that first Olgierd von Everec fight
look, I enjoyed DS3, but nothing in Dark Souls, not even in Bloodborne feels as tight and fluid as witcher boss fights
>>339686864
lol touchy, I've played games for literally 25 years, basically all other rpg franchises, I've never experienced just a bad feeling from any other game, it's nothing specific I just can't enjoy it and I've tried. it has nothing to do with my ability for fun
>>339687030
A lot of people do actually. I feel like they miss the tutorial where it tells you to time the hits instead of just mashing them
![empathy3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/glPi5Wh.jpg "empathy3[1].jpg")
>>339686908
I understand what you're saying. I comprehend your fantasy of self-pity.
In fact, it is because I understand you that I bother to respond at all.
I want to help you fix yourself. You're an incomplete human being.
You just don't have the experience to fully grasp the situation you're finding yourself in.
>>339686621
Sell it? as in you own it on a console?
THAT is where you fucked up.
>>339686864
Consider stopping? Are you joking? There are plenty of games out there with actually good, complex combat instead of Witcher 3's mediocrity. Dragon's Dogma, Dark Souls, Metal Gear Rising, Bayonetta, DMC, Ninja Gaiden, God Hand, Viewtiful Joe, and the list goes on. Any one of these games trumps Witcher's combat tenfold. I understand that the devs placed their emphasis on storytelling and RPG elements, but when combat takes up such a large part of the game and it's incredibly disappointing, it just makes the whole experience awful.
>>339687157
Oh man new viewtiful Joe when??
>>339686849
Too bad your oppinion has no value. 10/10 goty, and only thing you can do about it is furiously shitpost on /v/.
>>339687154
I've played previous Witcher games on pc and got the same result, I just give up on the franchise at this point
>>339687237
>10/10 goty
Says who?
Witcher 3 gets a pass for the same reason DA:Inquisition was well received. It's got a big pretty world for retards to run around in repeating trite quests for trite NPCs, without requiring any real thought during gameplay. It's a smooth dull experience they can chew on for hours that won't upset their widdle tummies.
>>339686850
Pretty much. Ai is so dumb when using monster decks. They just keep throwing those cards out. Make them waste a shit ton the first round, lose to em on purpose. Then wipe them out in the next two
>>339686692
>still not an arguement about how the story of witcher 3 is not Dr Phill
>>339684101
Nope.
MGSV has some of the most satisfying controls i've ever experienced.
TW3's controls are what turn me off from that game.
>>339687279
it's weird but I really miss not being able to build shit like in fallout 4, there's something about not feeling like a homeless fuck wandering around forever that makes the content more meaningful, I hope all rpgs start doing that
>>339687237
No one's opinion on /v/ has any value, including your own, so your point is completely moot. And yes, I already know that games with poor combat still get 10/10 scores, that always happens, just look at the new Uncharted. It has some of the most basic, mediocre TPS/stealth gameplay in any game, and yet still gets overwhelming critical acclaim.
>>339687001
you are a samefag though
drop the act
DA:I is SJW slop.
The only trannie I ran into in Witcher 3 was played for laughs because Dandelion was blind-drunk when he first met >her
>>339681413
Pretty much the same issue here. I found them tolerable before being introduced to the Souls series, now after playing something completely superior it has become physically impossible to get into again.
>>339681845
If you pick up all the relic gear in the cave for the main quest with Keira, you will be overpowered until around level 10, including that werewolf which takes like 8 fast attacks to kill
>>339687157
So play those then faggot.
>>339686849
>Its shit combat
>Said the shitposting drones on /v/
>Majority of people dont have the issues
And with majority of people i mean the critics, the people who played the game on God/Steam and consoles
I could understand if reviews were bought like Mass Effect 3 or Dragon Age 2 but Geralt has 39 000 reviews on Steam and 95% of them are positive.
And the majority of negative reviews come from people who
1. have problems with the game itself ( missing textures, bugs )
2. say Skyrim is a better game
So in conclusion:
Shitposters are again a loud minority like always
>>339687360
Witcher 3 is dr phill cuz baron beats wife therefore all niggers are dr phill. Not Phil but phill
>>339687273
Says everyone
>>339687551
you're kind of making the case that I don't agree or get along with w3 fans, you seem like a cock
>>339687551
i will sure do thank you
>>339687501
The whole Skellige king quest line is SJW.
The Master Armorer quest is SJW.
Witcher 3 is is like Kingdoms of Amalur if the quests felt somehow less meaningful and the combat was swapped out for an early 2000s movie tie in game. And you had to play as the edgiest motherfucker to ever have two swords.
>>339687575
The majority of people think Assassin's Creed is playable.
>>339687653
I actually enjoyed amalur more, it was like a third person Diablo/vanilla Wow, and it didn't take itself seriously
>>339687590
>le funny frog
>le funny racists jokes
you reek of cheetos
>>339686625
I really enjoy the witcher series as well as the book, but I think it's going too far to defend the way attacks work. If the game allowed you to choose which attack you did with a directional input or something I would feel like I had more control over the proceedings.
Right now it feels sort of like batman combat where there's a bit too much "press X for cool thing" going on. Furthermore I really enjoy the parry and counter etc, it's just a shame the majority of the threatening enemies you fight can't be parried. Too many fights come down to learning how many times you're allowed to hit them before you trigger a counter, doing so, dodging, and repeating until they die.
>>339687590
Nice try samefrog
>>339687634
>you're kind of making the case that I don't agree or get along with w3 fans
Not who you're responding to, but you literally don't.
You don't agree or get along with W3 fans.
If anon is making that case, he is right.
What are you thinking? Why bother shit-posting about a game you don't enjoy, forcing yourself into discussions with people you don't get along with?
>>339687471
And you can keep believing that being retarded wont get you called out
>>339687590
not only the baron part
every character has a social justice problem the great witcher has to solve like
the faggot in the begining witht he dogs was exiled for being a faggot....
storey in videogame !
>>339687753
In Batman you always know exactly what you're going to be doing.
>>339687750
>still not an argument about how you clearly dont belong here
>or shouldn't be arguing with anyone
I'm sure you'll end this all with
>its just a prank bro
>>339687737
that, and amalur had much better combat. witcher 3 keeps looking worse and worse because literally any other game had better controls and gameplay. dynasty warriors 2 is a clunk a thon, and that felt better too.
>>339687820
>you are retarded arguement
bravo
>>339687523
You are not supposed to blow your cover.
>Remember: no Souls
>>339687718
There is a huge difference between
>Meh its playable
and
>Wow this game is really good
I'm not an native English speaker but this is something i'm pretty sure about
>>339687904
>its just a prank bro
I can't take anything witcherfags say seriously because they L I T E R A L L Y defend this.
I wouldn't even hate the game if so many autistic shitters didn't claim it was GOTYAY and btfo every other game from now until the heat death of the universe, god at first it was cute, then it was sad, now it fucking triggers me goddamn
>>339687841
How are you missing the keyboard so much
>>339687904
why you keep coming here reddit?
why?
>>339687857
No. In dmc you always know exactly what you're doing. In Batman you press attack and he picks an animation based on distance and angle. That's not precision that's just ballparking it.
>>339687841
>The main character of a videogame i'm playing has to solve problems in the vidya world he lives in and i dont want it
Sorry i dont want to play your life where you sit in your basement and people avoid you at all costs
>>339688005
>moving goalposts
BTFO
T
F
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>>339687157
> There are plenty of games out there with actually good, complex combat instead of Witcher 3's mediocrity
> Dragon's Dogma,
And 3/10 in everything else
> Dark Souls
roll hit
roll roll roll hit
roll hit hit roll
ok.
> Metal Gear Rising
Terrible combat, plus it's not even an RPG
> Bayonetta
Action game button mashing garbage, not RPG
> DMC
Action game button mashing console bait, not
RPG
> Ninja Gaiden
Action game button mashing console bait, not RPG
> God Hand
Action game, not RPG
> Viewtiful Joe
Beat'em up 2D game, not RPG
Nothing you're mentioning makes even remotely any sense compared to W3.
With the 1.21 patch and mods like the removal of lock-on and the balancing of Signs it has one of the better combat styles of any recently released RPG
>>339688012
How are you this dumb?
Witcher 3 has an edgelord protagonist with a ponytail who claims to be morally grey, but white knights immediately at any given opportunity. Why is anyone surprised the fags on V ignore the gameplay and suck its cock?
>>339687984
Witcher 3 is currently the best Open World game and every Open world game released after it must be compared to it.
>>339687934
Nice post.
>>339688175
Btfo
>>339688091
Yeah but what problems thats the point
i don't care if someone is a faggot and he got exiled in a videogame
put a videogame story like Link the first flame to prolong the age of fire or save the princess
>>339687984
>lighting does not exist
>the sky is always perfect blue
you should go outside every now and then
>>339687251
I'm thinking you are suffering from some BAD input lag(and/or shit pc/monitor) across the board then.
Game needs to run with no ingame vsync, external over 100hz cap, custom flip queue, increased MP-RF etc.. before its playable smooth.
When these steps are taken the combat is just as smooth as souls(albeit dumbed down difficulty- I suggest mods for this part)
>>339688121
Calling NG bayo and dmc button mashers is pretty fucking ignorant even by /v/ standards. You do a ton more mindless button mashing in the witcher.
>>339687984
>pissOff.webm
Stop calling it piss filter. Piss filter was Deus Ex HR because the filter was YELLOW. This is obviously GREEN. Call it diarrhea filter or some shit thats GREEEN. It makes no sense to call any obnoxious color grading a piss filter if they aren't piss colored.
>>339688091
>Sorry i dont want to play your life where you sit in your basement and people avoid you at all costs
reddit and facebook post
cool
>>339688181
Fallout 4 is better
>>339688212
Millenials lol
>>339688248
nah it's just doesn't control and feel enjoyable to me, just my experience
>>339688097
>he literally just read a master guide on how to troll on 4chan for 9gaggers
Why do combat systems like this still exist?
You have light and heavy, and attack animations are based on distance to the enemy
Witcher does it, Batman does it, Asscreed does it, what else?
Because right now when I'm fighting generic monster or generic bandit #431 I don't get to choose my animations. Its like retarded guess work. Why is this a thing? If Geralt is such a badass monster slayer and I'm in control of him, why don't I get to decide EXACTLY what kind of attack I throw out?
Now this randomness just results in stupid twirling and instances where it just doesn't work.
One time I'm hitting this bandit from 5 meters away with my strong attacks, but later on Geralt decides to do something completely different at the exact same distance, and my attack misses and I get hit
>duude luuuul just attack twice and roll awayyyy
So you're admitting that the combat system is shallow, practically fucking braindead and yawn inducing? Good, because it is
>>339687575
Honest question. Why trip fag here? I can understand it on /x/ where everyone wants to start their own personality cult because they read a few occult books and I understand using it when you are relevant either to the discussion or the place itself. I don't know anything about you.
>>339687984
You literally get triggered by the fact witcher is goty.kek
>>339688248
No, witcher 3 in particular has really bad input lag. it just feels like shit. I searched around to see if it was just me and it isn't.
>>339688435
you don't seem to find an arguement about how the witcher 3 story is not Dr Phill yet
>>339681413
I got rekt hard at first, but about 8 hours in, I had an epiphany and realized that literally everything in the game can be killed by doing nothing but attack-attack-dodge left. After that, it was smooth sailing in a sea of blood and bodies to the ending credits.
>>339688317
Worse graphics
Shit gameplay
Stiff animations ( Facial, movement )
Brown and ugly in general
Story is fucking retarded
Sidequests are a boring chore
Sure its is better Anon
>>339688121
>It plays like an action game, but it has roleplaying elements so it's okay if it's shit
>>339688354
Pwnd xD
>>339681769
>W3 is better than Souls games, at least.
I don't honestly know how anyone can say that with a straight face.
>>339688498
Indeed at stock it is shit.
But once optimized runs smooth as silk in comparison.
>>339688574
Btfo samefag plz explain how its not dr phill fuck this thread and fuck /v/ dumbasses cant even tell I'm trolling btfo kek
>>339687575
I understand your point but I neither had technical issues with the game nor said Skyrim was a better game. I already outlined my issues with the game so I won't repeat them, but I really do hope the "shitposting loud minority who dislikes Witcher 3" continues to be loud for the sake of future titles. Think about it, it'd be beneficial for absolutely everyone, even those who loved Witcher 3. Imagine if Cyberpunk 2077 had improved, deepened combat, to the extent that myself and everyone else would actually have a blast playing it. Then there'd be no more shitposters and you'd be happy. (Actually, there will be shitposters no matter what, considering in your case that anyone with a disagreeing opinion is automatically deemed a shitposter.)
>>339688121
If Witcher 3 had Dragon's Dogma's combat while retaining all the Witcher spells, I probably would have loved it.
>>339688564
>ReactionImage 047
>tripfag
Fuck off back to l eddit
>>339688317
I found them to be equally un-engaging . At least I could play as Betty Draper in Fallout.
>>339688487
you are literally triggered by the fact The Last of Us is GOTY
lmao
>>339688564
well I enjoyed 100s of hours of fallout 4 and 0 hours of fun with w3 even after 10 hours of trying. but I guess I'm wrong about my own experience and opinion, because you're autistic and it super matters that I don't like what you like
>>339688653
you poor thing
>>339688587
It depends on your taste. Souls is for people that like gauntlet games eith nice ambiance in which the combat is similar to a rythm game. Witcher is for people that like fucking around with a shittily made tactical combat system and some good story that isn't cringe tier shit.
>>339688718
BTFO
>>339688747
*with nice ambiance
Phone posting
>>339688587
not that anon, but it's pretty easy to when you realise that people have different opinions and different standards in terms of what makes a game better than another
try not being immature
>someone actually enjoying Fallout 4
>for 100 hours
topkek not even the Skyrim audience thought Todd's newest game was good. Guess he should've spent more money on making it not shit and less money hiring a bunch of B-list hollywood celebs to come to his le bazinga video game launch party
>>339688684
I just love the series in general, also I really enjoy the building way more than I thought I would, there's this satisfying loop of going out exploring and when you're full of loot you go back to your base and use the materials to build more. it's pretty cool I think all rpgs will add the building
>>339688224
no reply to this
Witcher tards are the worst
>>339688862
Bethesda games are shit, but they're mindless, aimless shit where you can make your own fun for a time, so you can still get dozens of hours of mild enjoyment out of a Bethesda game while fully acknowledging that it is shit.
>>339688653
Anon,just stop.you are arguing with 3 other people
>>339687501
DAI is awesome
>>339688862
I just don't really give a fuck what you think, everyone could hate a game I like, I still like it regardless, you need to grow up and realize that discussing your opinions of a game isn't a violent attack on each other's character
>>339688975
Nice try dr saltt
>>339686182
Gwent is shit. It's probably the most unbalance deck building game I've ever seen with spy decks being the only decent option.
>>339688714
INext time write
>In my opinion the Witcher 3 is shit
and not
>Witcher 3 is shit
I play Fallout 4 for 3 days now and i like it but in my opinion its bad compared to Geralt in nearly every way ( well except building a base )
>>339687575
Mass Effect 3 is better than the witches 3
>>339688714
you are probably a faggot too
>>339689071
How is it unbalanced
>>339687367
You are objectively wrong.
>>339688224
The witcher games have a lot to do with perspective on the life of multiple classes instead of just 1 sheltered child who thinks everything's k so long as he picks up a hoe. Most people in the game hate geralt for what he is, so the faggot thing is more a little thing to express the extent of their biggotry. It's not that it matters and is supposed to make you feel anything, it's more a process of worldbuilding.
>>339688862
>someone actually enjoying Fallout 4
>for even 10 hours
yaaaah bro I looove those Witcher Sense quests, its like I really belong in the wurld!
I love the characters and dialogue too, this is definitely something I couldn't have experienced without spending 70 euros on this hot garbage!
Fallout has always been shit too by the way.
>>339688653
>was only pretending to be retarded....or was i?
He is like a trainwreck. I want to look away but i cant
>>339688884
I was lukewarm about previous Fallouts and the building actually kind of sold me on 4, and then I hated the building, and how it meant you had to pick up all the random scenery junk (in a fucking bethesda game) and how it bitched at you constantly for not doing it.
>>339689073
ha hahaha... wait are you serious?
>>339689080
everybody look the baby wet his pants
>>339689183
Me3 wasn't even bad until the ending. I hate this meme.
>>339689179
I think I falseflagged him out of here idk
>>339689135
*shits out 5 spies in one turn*
>>339687803
Not that guy, but some witcher fans are really annoying, they usually tend to attack random games to make the witcher look attractive and they get buttmad when you criticize the game.
>>339689135
Spy decks are overpowered as hell. Stock your deck with spies, dummies, and medics and you get so many cards that only another spy deck even stands a chance.
>>339689241
No it was rather good, still nowhere near as good as 2 but still pretty good...
Then went full abortion.
>>339689180
honestly I play every game searching each section for hidden things so it just kind of rewards me for stuff I already do
At least when people jack off souls games, they actually talk about what the game does well instead of just trying to shit talk something similar games. The Witcher 3 inferiority complex is alive and well.
I feel as if people who defend Witcher 3s combat mechanics and movement also defend Dark Souls 2s dead zones and combat
>>339689309
Use your dummies and take their spies? Try buying cards from innkeepers and playing every npc that will play so you can actually have a good deck. Maybe? There is a strategy for every deck
>>339689287
You know, quite a lot of witcher fans just enjoy playing and replaying TW1 and don't feel the need to shit on everything to justify the controls of TW2&3 sucking balls (3 is better than 2 though)
We can be pretty chill when we want to.
>>339681769
Witcher 3, better than a souls game.....
Only reason i could imagine someone saying that is if they gave up because you died too much.
>>339689072
That's completely redundant considering there's no objective way to consider a game as good. Oh wait, I'm sorry, let me rephrase that for you. "In my opinion, that's completely redundant considering there's no objective way to consider a game as good." It's absolutely asinine to force everyone to say "in my opinion" before every game review on a video game discussion board. If someone calls a game good or bad, it's obviously a fucking opinion.
>>339689513
I always hated Avallac'h because he cannot be countered, dummied or anything, it's just a free "draw 2 cards". Niflgaardian spies are a lot more fun.
>>339689546
Or comparing to DS2..
1&3 are better games IMO.
2 definitely falls behind tw... 2 & 3 (tw1 can eat a bag of dicks)
Souls and witcher at nothing alike besides both have swords. Why do we do this every thread? And why is it always lol witcherfags say its goty 10/10. I swear its just the people who hate it that bring that up all the time. I give this game like 8/10 but ill defend it still idk. And yeah I like souls too.
>nice try witcherfaggot I'm not gonna follow some red dust and fail at combat all the time
Okay you dont enjoy it, cool.
>>339689882
it's the same people
/v/ doesn't have that many users
>>339689072
I don't normally insult people, but you're a down-syndrome tier idiot if you can't tell that the statement "Witcher 3 is shit" is an opinion.
Nah
>>339689985
No, you have to be pedantic. Who would expect that on v?
>>339690237
Btfo
>tfw stunlocking Eredin on Death March with Explosive Alt Quen on an Adrenaline build
Shit was hilarious, if you fucks would stop dropping seven things on top of me I wouldn't have even thought of messing with Quen. But you did, and now your leader is getting raped on the mast of his boat by my bubble.
>>339690237
No one cares. You're a vile, attention-whoring tripcunt. Go spread your disease somewhere else, /v/ has more than enough cancer already. Why the fuck do you trip anyway? Do you have an actual reason to do so besides blatant attention-slutting?
goddamn witcherfags
i swear i'm THIS close to dedicating my life to an elaborate plot to put CDPR out of business
>>339690237
>tripfag
>witcher 1, 2 on PC then Witcher 3 on PS4
I love witcher 3 but good god why.
