Give me one reason why Sonic Adventure 3 would save the franchise outside of all the degenerates wanting it.
>>339676152
becauseI just don't want people to be happy
Does anybody have better idea?
>inb4 "go back to good games hurr durr"
Sonic still sells millions even when the games are shit. In fact, the Olympic spin offs are the best selling Sonic games.
The series doesn't really need saving from a financial standpoint. Which means they have no incentive to make a game you would consider good. Plus, the Sonic fanbase is as bad as Final Fantasy. So even if they did make a good game, 3/4 of people would hate it for not being 'like Sonic 2' or 'like [x] favorite game'.
Anything besides that cringeworthy humor they've been doing. I'd even take the melodrama back.
Or at least make it actually funny likeSonic Boom
>>339676852
Friendly neighbor OP here, I'll admit my faggotory and confess that I kinda like the Sonic Boom cartoon.
>>339677017
Fucking degenerate
>>339676152
Sega is thinking about putting in a chao garden. If they do go through with it, then it's a victory for mankind.
>>339676152
Sonic is a dead franchise. Sega is irrelevant nowadays and has been that way for a good while.
>>339676152
It would have a chao garden.
CHAO GARDEN
>>339676737
>Sonic still sells millions
Lost World bombed.
Boom is the worst selling Sonic game.
Runners is closing next month.
Because, contrary to popular belief, trying to make a 3D Sonic around Green Hills zones and Casino zones is boring as fuck and not a good idea. If they don't go all over the place with the tone, another Sonic Adventure could finally be good after all the lessons the Sega developers have learned between Unleashed, Generations, Colors, and Lost World.
>>339677415
Wasn't the only good thing from that (aside from more Eggman of course) Zeena?
>>339679879
Yes
>>339679879
I liked it, honestly. It also gave us more Jouji Nakata since Gamma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTLjXBmI6YY
It still bombed, though.
>>339678964
i just hope it doesnt turn out the other way around where they learn nothing and just decide to fuck it all up again
>>339677415
>Lost World bombed
Except it didn't. Sega was happy with how both the Wii U and 3DS version sold. You're right about the rest, though.
>>339678964
This. The series has been fine since fucking 2008 and people still meme like playing a sonic game is one of the worst things a human could possibly do and it gives them aids or some shit. Sonic team has learned a lot from the misteps that were shadow, 06, and secret rings.
Although I will always consider Unleashed to be the real Adventure 3
>>339676152
It probably wont, but I still want it to happen. Though, I'd rather have Yuji Naka be the producer to the game. Too bad he left Sega.
>>339682308
>I will always consider Unleashed to be the real Adventure 3
My nigga
>>339682387
Yuji naka has confirmed to be a hack, similar to kojima and inafune. You really dont want him back. Look at what hes done since leaving sega
>>339682523
Good games?
>>339682671
lol
>>339682523
I have no idea what he's been up too aside from that one Nights into Dreams like game. It can't be as bad as Inafune right now.
>>339677285
>Dead franchise
>still trucking on
Nice YouTube opinion, mate.
>>339682753
Its not as bad as infaune but its nothing notable either. He made his company in the middle of sonic 06s development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prope
>>339682308
>Although I will always consider Unleashed to be the real Adventure 3
You. I like you.
Even with the werehog nonsense (and the more serious affront that the combat music overrides the based as fuck night level music), that game was comfy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5aybGqM95A
So fucking comfy.
Does anybody have a link to the YT video where a bunch of autists are sitting in a hotel room and singing along with that one song (I think it's city escape) from SA2? I need it bad and haven't watched it in a couple of years now.
>>339683000
Sonic Unleashed was a great game imo. I honestly liked the Werehog levels. My only issue with them was that there were far too many of them. They did remind me a little of the Knuckle levels in the Adventure games.
There was even a time where I came back from School feeling exhausted, but I still wanted to play Unleashed. I feel asleep when I was in the Holoska hub world at night. That shit was the comfiest nap I ever took. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1GEgkcCA8
>>339682127
Actually, I remember they hoped Lost World would even be a console seller, which obviously didn't happen.
>>339683000
Well complaining about the werehog is kinda silly since a big part of the adventure games is alternate gameplay. I consider the main alternate gameplays the series has had to be shooting/treasure hunting/werehog. Werehog combines the former, the action and 3D platforming of the shooting stages but now with combos and kicks and punches rather than holding down a homing laser and letting go, and the exploration and hunting of the treasure hunting (that is, if you're looking to collect all the medals and collectibles like tapes and art books).
You can also plug in a usb into your 360/PS3 with the night music, set it up through the consoles music player, and the track will override the games music but you still keep the sound effects. This little difference for me, made the werehog stages go from 6/10 to 9/10. If you have yet to do that, give it a shot. On my 360 I call it the, "Unleashed Night" playlist
>>339683375
They said they hoped it would be the game to turn the Wii U around. They were still happy with the results at the end since it was a low budget game.
Honestly, I still enjoyed the game. It has its issues, but I still found some enjoyment out of it. I also thought the DLC levels were cool too. Wish they had a DKC themed one. Oh well.
![tumblr_n52as74tpX1r5scsco9_1280[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lwA1gLK.png "tumblr_n52as74tpX1r5scsco9_1280[1].png")
>>339683334
The Holoska hub is indeed super atmospheric and beautiful, but then again, they all are.
You know the funny thing? There are actually more hedgehog levels than werehog levels. But the werehog levels move at a slower pace so it feels like they drag on, but theres a lot that can be skipped on subsequent playthroughs.
day:
>apotos: 3 acts
>mazuri: 3 acts
>spagonia: 3 acts
>chun nan: 3 acts
>holoska: 2 acts
>empire city: 2 acts
>shamar: 2 acts
>adabat: 3 acts
Meanwhile, the werehog only has an extra act for apotos, chun nan, adabat, and there might be one more, but I cant remember it. Then theres all the DLC acts if you bought those packs. Sonic actually has way more side levels combined with his massive act 1s.
>Triggered
HAHAHAHA MAKING FUN OF DA ESS JAY DOUBLE Us IS SO FUNNAH!!!
LOOK AT ME BEING EDGY, MOM!!!
Fuck off back to /pol/.
>>339677017
I watched one or two eps and it was pretty decent
>>339683832
Calm down, tumblr
>>339683765
Wait never mind, it was mazuri that had an extra act for the werehog too. So 4 extra acts the werehog gets while sonic gets at least one, mostly 2, for each continent.
>>339683765
Wow, really? It's been a while since I played Unleashed, but I could have sworn there were more Werehog levels. I probably thought that because of how they dragged on like you said.
>>339683379
Oh, I know all this. I've done it before. I just think it's a shame we need to resort to this because of a silly choice in the sound design. Not a deal breaker, but it doesn't help the battle music has only four entry points into the song, and they all sound the same.
That said, maxed out Werehog is a blast to play. At least, on 360/PS3. I tried on the Wii/PS2 one and it's super garbage. Only the day stages are worth playing there.
Nostalgia.
It works for Nintendo and their games and it worked for Sonic the Hedgehog 4. It markets itself as a sequel to the Dreamcast games and it's era.
The game's quality and how they decide to take it? No idea. They're all over the place and the franchise is a mess.
>>339684056
Nope you just remembered wrong. Both sonics get a main level (act 1) on each continent. All of the continents have 1 or 2 extra levels for sonic, and only 4 of them have 1 extra level for the werehog.
The only night levels that ever dragged to me was holoska and shamar night. Shamar is mainly because theres no platforming, just combat against enemies like bees and fire wizards. Holoska is much better with the level design but its just a long level. I remember being surprised by how short and simple adabat night was.
>>339684228
I know, just patching in an option to disable the battle music would greatly benefit them. A maxed werehog with tons of strength, hp, and combos to abuse is indeed fucking fun. The last gen Unleashed only had like...10 or less combos for the werehog. It was just quickly made to recoup some costs from the very taxing and expensive HD version
>>339684348
>it worked for Sonic the Hedgehog 4
Pretty sure it didn't, both games bombed and Episode III was canceled.
>>339684795
Didn't Episode 4: Episode 1 sell like a million on every platform it was on? I don't remember how episode 2 did.
>>339684795
Ep1 got good reviews and sold over a million shortly after launch, rough estimates put it past 2 million
Ep2 did less but thats just because its an episodic game and those sell less as time goes on and theclassic sonic autistswere making shockwaves on the internet to sega saying how bad it was. Funniest part? Ep2 was a direct improvement in all ways to Ep1 but it got worse reviews. I guess reviewers remembered they had to hate Sonic and missed the memo because everyone pretended to love Sonic back in 2010 with colors and 4.
>>339676152
It wouldn't.
Why can't we just have a good fucking sonic game like generations? Fuck playing as the side characters and fuck all the gimmicks. Just give me a sonic game where I can run around fast in a level that was designed well. Loops, jumps, sprials, why is that so hard to understand sega?
>>339685227
Sonic 06 was the last game to feature any other side characters playable. It's been nothing but Sonic for the past 10 years.
>>339684952
It sold one million as a whole, not on every platform. And considering it was released on multiple platforms it was a pretty lackluster performance, so much that Sega flat out stated that Episode III will happen depending on how well Episode II does.
>>339685009
My theory on why Episode II got worse reviews was that most of the positive ratings on Episode I seemed to be heavily influenced by nostalgia for the Genesis games at the time. A lot of the positive reviews when I actually took my time to read them were basically "It's not a 3D Sonic game and there's no sign of Sonic's friends, therefore it's fantastic".
When Episode II came out, people weren't buying that kind of thing anymore, hence why it got worse reviews. If Episode I was re-released or something like that and got new reviews, I bet they would be a lot more negative in comparison to when the game originally came out.
>>339685227
Adventure 2 and Unleashed sonic levels are exactly that but people complained "lol hold forward/right to win XD". Generations is canned speed for the most part, theres not that many loops or spirals. Whole lot of jumping though. In 2D. On blocks.
>>339685449
I was assuming a sonic adventure 3 would be like 1 and 2 with side characters no one cares about
I want another Chao Garden with even more eugenics options.
>>339685463
Thats exactly what the reviewers boiled down to. Its 2D therefore its good. Its solo sonic, therefore its good. Suddenly its a 9/10 because of these factors rather than everything about the game itself. I dont even have anything against Sonic 4, it makes for a fun afternoon game and is a decent rollercoaster, but it just doesnt have a strong hook. Still, the drop off from ep1 > ep2 when 2 was an improvement in all ways is just a slap in the face with bias
>>339682127
How is Lost World?
I remember one version is worse than the other after a certain point but I can't remember which one.
>>339685769
I want to see a Chao Garden with online elements. Imagine having to race against your friends Chao's or even trading them. That'd be cool.
>>339685849
*remember hearing
>>339685449
Wisps are playable side characters
Adventure 1 and 2 were both perfect, all they have to do is repeat the formula, maybe make it open world or do what 2 did i do not care. they were great games, they need to replicate that charm for number 3. and the characters should be fun and not annoying to play as, but interesting in their own right. include tails knuckles etc. there must be more knuckles levels. and of course, the chao garden must be bigger and more beauitful than ever before.
we need a chao garden, folks.
>>339677017
That'sfair
>>339685849
Its pretty hit or miss. If youre a nintendo/mario fanboy youll love it, since it fuses sonic elements with mario galaxy like level design and camera angles, music, and aesthetic. Even if youre looking for a simple platformer it gets the job done. But it really doesnt feel like sonic if that makes sense and the whole thing has a very kiddy vibe around it, similar to colors. Its not as fast as a boost game and theres some gimmick levels like mario sunshine if you've ever played that.
Its worth playing since it was the last main game but it wont blow you away or anything. Summer sale is coming up so you can probably get it for under $10 there.
>>339686131
>that jpg texture being used as the background
>tfw those used to impress back then and I thought games were super realistic
TAKE ME BACK
>>339685849
It's always mixed when it comes to which version is better. In my opinion, the Wii U version is better. The 3DS version isn't bad, but it does suffer from some bad camera control. It kinda gives me a headache.
If I'm being honest, Sonic Lost World is an average game at best. It's not a bad game, but it feels like a toned down Colors game. If Sonic moved just a bit faster and some of the levels had better designs the game would be much better. As it is now, it's alright. It's definitely worth a shot, though.
>>339686253
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>>339686253
>that jpg texture being used as the background
Anon that's a bilinear filter.
![Sonic-Adventure-2-HD-Screenshots-1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/OYpnlVm.jpg "Sonic-Adventure-2-HD-Screenshots-1[1].png")
>>339686447
This is the one that always got me. The background was a bit blurry and the stars would move and the earth was glowing, but when going downhill on rails it looked like you were falling to earth...fucking awesome. I liked the levels that used jpg backgrounds more than fully 3D levels like security hall or aquatic mine.
