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Is there any hope for Valkyria: Azure Revolution?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1PEGJfzE4
>>339639339
No, looks like fucking Sword Art Online anime shit
>LeGION
It looks dope as fuck. Dunno what you faggots are complaining about. It's a spinoff game, so chill your manboobs.
I hope it gets a worldwide release.
>>339639339
The footage we saw looked awful. I know they're adjusting for feedback now, but if a good game wasn't in their original vision, I doubt they can make one just because they were told to. Keep your hopes very low.
>>339639339
It looks like it'll be FUCKING FUN
>>339639339
As a fan of Valkyria Chronicles, this makes me sad every time I see it.
>>339640162
Didn't you learn with Federation Force? Spinoff games that look a little different in series that haven't had games in a while are basically cancer brought into videogame form. Actually Hitler.
Even if they change it, all it will do is make people worry it's going to be a half assed middle ground.
They should have just done what everybody wanted and made a fucking proper VC game.
I hope the remaster has far better sales than this ends up getting, that should be a clear message of what people want.
>>339640162
It looks dope as fuck but the demo was absolute shit.
Sega received "harsh" feedback as expected too.
I REALLY HOPE they delay it an entire year to get good gameplay this time. Also good world, good animation and better graphics would help otherwise they can fuck off.
Here's a good review of the demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUw_TsvCDXw
>>339641404
>what everybody wanted and made a fucking proper VC game.
Very few peoples want that sadly. The SRPG audience on console is dead it seems.
>>339639339
I'm not really excited for it. Apparently Sega got some really harsh, but constructive criticism for the demo and they've made some adjustments since then.
That being said I don't see this getting localized anytime soon if it bombs in Japan. I hope they give the main series some more love after this project is over because I really miss it.
VC3 HD when? VC3 localization when?
>>339640018
dumb animeposters.
>>339639339
>soundtrack by Yasunori Mitsuda
>>339642767
Stop pretending to be reddit dumb
I don't understand how games that look this awful get made. No part of this looks fun at all, I have never heard a single positive comment about it, everyone is telling them they are wasting their time making trash. Yet, they still continue to develop this garbage.
>>339640993
Something about her looks off.
>>339639339
It will get shitposted into oblivious by shitters
It will flop
People will complain to SEGA about not giving the original series love
People who actually give a shit will figure out it's a good game
It will become a cult classic
It's popularity will build
People will complaint to SEGA about not giving Valkyria of the Blue Revolution enough love
SEGA will test the waters with some other spin-off
Repeat process from step one
>>339643353
It's an hilarious fuck up. I don't know anything else recently that fucked up this bad actually so I'm not sure why you're using plural.
That said they could still save it.
>>339643297
I like Sakimoto more.
>no Sakimoto
>no Raita
>>339643747
Funnily enough, the original Valkyria was shitposted at first because it wasn't Sakura Wars.
>>339644169
That's why I posted that. People forget the amount of shitposting the original got.
It saddens me that this game is going to do poorly because faggots can't see past character designs that aren't as rediculous as they make them out to be compared to other character designs in the same series, and compared to real world inspirations. Zweihanders existed, people. They were bigger than the sword that the guy character is using.
>>339644169
?
why would anyone care if the original vc wasn't sakura taisen?
wtf
>>339644701
The problem is that the game actually looks very, very bad in it's gameplay and tech. For now anyway.
>Zweihanders existed, people. They were bigger than the sword that the guy character is using
It's not okay when anime does it apparently.
I don't care what /v/ thinks. I'm excited for it and hope they're able to really utilize the feedback from the demo to make it something at least worthy of the name.No matter what, it'll be better than the shitty second and third games.
>>339644750
Japan wanted a nextgen Sakura Wars real hard, and Valk had some of the core SW staff.
Of course they would get mad
>wtf
>>339644701
>Zweihanders existed, people. They were bigger than the sword that the guy character is using.
They didn't look like spaceships.
>>339640947
Oh yeah, I forgot.
>>339643979
> That said they could still save it.
No. They game is salvageable, but they cannot save it, they have a bad design philosophy. The only way to save it would be to fire everyone involved in the project and replace them, but that would set it back years. At this point they best they can do is rush the product out as soon as possible and hope they can get a few sales from unsuspecting customers who haven't done their homework.
>>339645317
It's a black blade. And it's smaller in game than the art makes it out to be due to lolperspective
>>339645031
I played through the demo, and there were definite problems, but it was actually pretty fun in it's ideas. I hope the scope fills out, and we're apparently getting another character for the party, which either implies party of 4 or changeable characters for the party, which I think is the way they're gonna go. We'll see how they take the balance changes and reworking, but I think there's something really good there, that I hope doesn't get ignored because of shitposting.
>>339641785
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUw_TsvCDXw
Looking at this I got reminded of
>Ophelia's tights removed as a result of fan feedback.
But all I can see from the gameplay is her spats. Please don't tell me they're removing her spats. That would just make her even worse than she already is.
I actually kind of like the enemy designs in AR and the graphics, but everything else can suck it.
>>339648194
pre-ordered.
>no raita
boo hiss
Riela is pure sex.
>>339651814
But Imca is infinitely better
>>339652407
That's just your opinion man.
I LOVE the look of the game. The graphics are really nice and that reveal trailer was hype. But it looks like garbage to play. I dont get it? All they had to was take VC3s mechanics and make an HD console game out of it. VC3 was perfect
>>339652613
I also want more games like VC3, but VC3 wasn't without it's flaws. We need VC3.5.
>>339640993
>titty monster yet again attached to some other guy's dick
They never learn, do they?
>director of shining
>capable of making anything fun
Nope
>>339652980
She's probably gonna end up dying in a stupid way as well.
>>339652980
They learned something by VC3. They give you two, so you still have one left after they kill the other.
Maybe we'll get a game that doesn't have one die in the near future.
>>339652781
I cant think of anything wrong with vc3. It took the improvements of vc2, scrapped the "improvements" of vc2 and reverted back to the vc1 (you level up just by playing the character/class, exp at the camp, bigger maps, can have 9 people out at once). The story and characters were the best, there was some good tension, and a lot of interesting locations and missions, especially if you ever managed to get the dlc. The only i thought was dumb that valkyria mode couldnt 1 hit kill tanks but some of my anti tank snipers, lancers, or war hammer characters could lol
>>339653487
>I cant think of anything wrong with vc3.
>map reuse
>fencer is a useless class
>could use some more balance on the weapons and tank equipment (grenade lancers, 3 shot snipers, flamethrowers, etc)
Just a few things off the top of my head. It can be fixed and VC3 is an amazing game despite these flaws, but it's not a perfect game.
if there's some decent waifus in it, I'll buy it.
>>339654084
Map reuse is more of a size issue but when totaled with VC2s maps, there is a great variety all around. Revisiting the dusty trenches and gloomy skies of nagiar was so fun since it didnt get enough time in vc1.
Fencer isnt useless, just not that useful in most situations. If you need someone tanky to run in and get a guy behind cover and capture a base, theyre great. And the anti tank fencers with the war hammers, can one shot heavy tanks or leave them with like 30 hp. Id say lancers are the least useful class once you get anti tank 3 shot snipers.
Grenade lancers are useless true, 3 shot snipers are the best in the game, and flamethrowers have their use but the main guns are stronger.
Some things can stand to be fixed but its easily the best in the series and one of the best portable games ever made
>>339654084
>fencer is a useless class
You can 1-hit everyone with elite fencers. For me, they were the most efficient way to kill those valkyra robots (I don't remember their name)
>>339654812
>valkyra robots
You mean VC2? Fencers were great in that game, but nerfed to shit come VC3.
>>339645238
>waned a nextgen sakura wars real hard
lol wat
no they don't dude
last thing we need is a new sakura wars game tbqh
sakura wars 3 HD port would be good though, but not a new game
the formula is exhausted and they can't really improve it after they shot it to perfection on 3/4
>>339654084
>>339654656
>>339654812
Fencers are good in 2 but crap in 3 but that doesn't matter so much as they don't fit into the world where the tech is fanciful takes on practical equipment
>>339655268
You could do the same in VC3 against the calamity raven's robots that were pretty much the same as the valkyria robots from VC2
>>339656657
>>339656753
getting some smt vibes 2bh
>>339639339
anime tiddies = hype
>>339639339
It could be good but it doesn't have the interesting design anymore (practical equipment in a flamboyant jrpg style). Valkyrie's could use magical bullshit melee weapons because they were literally rare magical bullshit but now everyone's swinging around giant weapons and it just looks like a standard jrpg.
These designs are chuuni as fuck.
>>339639339
No, it became sword wielding chuuni shit.
>>339639339
Where is the turn based combat?
The ONLY way I will preorder this is if we get to save Selvaria this time.
>>339658908
Then you can start now
There's no point in talking about this game right now, they're redoing nearly all of it thanks to Japanese feedback from the demo, which was absolute SHIT by the way.
>>339640993
Looks like your brother from fable 3
>>339658908
>a bootleg Selvaria
>settling for a bootleg version of your waifu
For shame anon.
>>339639339
>We're going to keep milking Selvaria's big titties and bring her back over and over
>But you can't play as her
>Here's your generic male JRPG protag and his harem of plastic girls instead
Just make a whole game starring Not-Selvaria already you fucking hacks. Her DLC in VC1 was one of the few times I was satisfied with paid DLC (even though you couldnt play as her until the end)
>no tanks
>no squads
>no organization
>just a rag-tag group of 3 teenagers with attitude stopping the Imps
>>339656657
>>339658481
The character designs look okay but god, those weapons. This is something I'd expect from Compile Heart.
>>339660560
abort
>>339660637
I'm fine with a big sword, but what the fuck is a trap wielding a staff doing >>339656657
Is he really going to fucking cast spells like a wizard?
>>339660560
VC1
>Just a single teenage scout winning the war
VC4
>3 teenagers winning the war
Its an upgrade
This is a spin off right?
>>339660940
>>339660560
>Imps running at you in gothic plate that doesn't even try to not be medieval and swords
>>339661026
Yes, but it still pisses me off that this is the Valkyria game we're going to see return on consoles since VC1 instead of VC4.
>>339639339
Not all that hyped about these character designs.
Bring back Raita.
>>339639339
So...
Now the game becames a Mouso/Action shit ?
Can we have turn based game back ?
This game is going to be shit, and you sadly know it anons.
>>339661182
WHen is this getting released again?
>no one mentioning that his absolute disaster is getting a rework due to feedback
http://gematsu.com/2016/05/valkyria-azure-revolution-made-more-rpg-like-result-demo-feedback
come on guys, you gotta be on top of these things
>>339661318
>weapons and magic
Guess that answers >>339660859
>>339660637
>looking like something that you'd expect from Tsunako
>a bad thing
Compile Heart's designs tend to be great. Same with the writing.
It's the gameplay portion that tends to destroy CH games, along with the excessive recycling of resources.
>>339661318
Wait, can we get these Demos? With a JPN PSN account?
I hope it bombs so they stick to the good old formula for future entries.
>>339661482
>Compile Heart's designs tend to be great. Same with the writing.
Can you please do me a favor and die?
>>339661792
>hating on FFF
okay mr. memes
The only character design I hate is the protagonist looking like a generic edgy serious protagonist with yellow eyes, a long coat and an abnormally big sword.
But the gameplay, that's no cult classic. That's beyond mediocre, that's worse than even launch game PS2 ARPG systems. The ranged combat is also complete garbage, and the cover seems stilted and not worth finangling with except when forced to. It's a good thing they're actually stepping back to turn it into a strategy RPG again, but unless it's delayed to completely allow for a reworking, it'll be complete and utter garbage. Especially since it's the modern Shining devs behind this.
>>339658481
>bootleg steampunk monado
>>339661318
>when using weapons and magic
>and magic
Would a game just about her (or a lookalike) sell in Jap Land?
BELTAN
>>339662042
I can't figure out the taste of the people of Wa sometimes so I don't know, but I'd buy it
>port VC1 to PC
>wow, this sold way more than we anticipated, thank you so much everyone!
>our new Valkyria project is this JRPG with almost zero tactical combat and is literally only related to the franchise by title
Cool, thanks. Fuck a proper VC game, this is what everyone was hoping for. Just kill me, it will be easier than hopelessly waiting for VC4.
>>339656828
Looks nothing like Shin Megami Tensei
>>339639339
What the fuck is this shit?
Didn't we go from WWI to WWII aesthetics? Shouldn't this be like Vietnam or Korean war?
The fuck is with the anime transformer weapoins and shit?
>>339662451
>this sold so much
Bitch please.
They already knew how much the fans loved the first game on PS3. The community was constantly shilling the game for Sega. Of course we didnt call it shilling back then.
And they fucking took a dump on us by making VC2 and 3
>>339662451
I know there's a stigma against ports/remasters, but honestly a remaster of VC3 in the west wouldn't hurt. But we'll probably never get that despite fan demand. I don't know who at SEGA thought it was a good idea to let a different team with a track record for releasing incredibly average games that no one really cares about, should turn a strategy series into a hack and slash.
>>339662642
This isn't part of the series, it's a different continuity and might as well be a different game altogether with the license half-assedly slapped on to make it sell.
>>339652980
>>339653117
>>339653363
I like how they're making Selvaria again, to kill her off in much the same way, and to just make it overall pointless to add her to the game in general. This was their chance to give her a route and some kind of interaction with the MC, but they end up doing what's safest and making Selvaria 2.0.
>>339662665
Yeah I remember, they were only looking at the Japanese market despite the majority of sales being from outside Japan. It's why they released 2 on the psp, it was pretty big there while being dead everywhere else.
>>339658908
>>339659919
No, you can't.
>>339662665
It hurts, man. Can you imagine a legit new installment of the series on new hardware? VC1 was a cult classic; all a new entry needs is the improvements to the gameplay that 3 brought along and to not be on the fucking PSVita for FUCKS SAKE.
>>339639339
No.
>>339663120
I just wish they made this about Selvaria-clone instead. I'd be fine with the focus on action if we got to play as an actual Valkyria.
Instead we get preteen girls and Edge McGeneric
>>339662997
I think there is a 50/50 chance of her defecting to the player's side at some point. I don't think Sega realized just how popular Selvaria was going to be and probably have some regrets about killing her off.
>>339661061
Still makes me smile
>>339661635
I can't see it on my JP PSN, but I could have missed it I guess.
>>339663510
There isn't a public demo since it was bundled with VC remastered in Japan.
>>339663448
>I don't think Sega realized just how popular Selvaria was going to be and probably have some regrets about killing her off.
No, all Sega is going to do is make is try and care about Selvaria 2.0's death as we did with the originals. There's no fucking way she'll have a route. The routes in it are already determined and there's only one, so stop hoping for anything more.
>Enemies and world look really cool
>Playable characters look like a jumble of the worst anime cliches
>>339663664
Probably for the better. If they're changing the battle system due to reception from a limited demo, I can only imagine just how much shitposting and hell would reign from basically everyone being able to play the demo and giving it hell. SEGA wouldn't hear the end of it.
>>339663871
Their uniforms look fine but the fucking weapons
>>339660560
It's actually 4 now
This is SEGA using the VC name to make a final fantasy/tales of knockoff. I think this would be a prequel IF it was set in the VC timeline because the Azure Revolution was when Ragnite was first discovered? Makes no sense they'd already mastered using it if it was 'just discovered' though.
Not unheard of for a series to branch out into different genres using the same name. Shit, look at Nepnep, the neps will conquer ALL the video game genres.
>yfw Strategy game where the kingdoms of Gamindustri are clashing on a large-scale simulated battlefield
>>339664236
Is MC Douche a mandatory party member?
>>339662997
But I don't want this knockoff. I want Selvaria. Fuck you, Sega. Fuck you.
>>339664264
You can make whatever shitty spinoff series you want, but not after you completely assfuck the fanbase of your franchise for years on end first. No Valkyria fan wanted a spinoff game, we just wanted a proper title on a proper system to soothe our blistering, bleeding rectal cavities.
>>339640993
>they couldnt even make her the final villain
>they just had to make her some edge lord's lapdog
>again
>>339639339
>>339640993
I hope this tiddy monster is more like Esdeath than Selvaria.
>>339664702
Too late for that. All you can hope for is notSelvaria getting a route.
>>339665064
Esdeath was fun because she was a psycho who did whatever the fuck she wanted.
This Selvy 2.0 is looking like another dumb broad in love.
>>339664264
>>339664828
Its Shining series all over again
>started as strategic-RPG
>SPING OFF SPIN OFF SPIN OFF
People are mad because it's only for PS4
>>339665220
>ShiningIt's the same devs as Shining Resonance.
>>339665418
didn't the 360 and ps3 both win 7th gen?
i mean exclusives put the ps3 a notch over but it was still really close
>>339639339
Man, that looks pretty mediocre. Were they not thinking "Valkyria Chronicles" at all when they designed the gameplay? VC should be about fuckers with rifles, not fuckers with swords.
I'm glad that they're redoing the combat system, though. I don't mind the character designs or the aesthetic.
>>339639339
10 seconds into the video I wish they would lower the sound of footsteps
MY EARS
>>339665207
Nah, she's literally fighting on contract. She doesn't care about anyone as far as we know. Not even actually part of the empire.
>>339665418
Not here, man. VC players are getting reemed enough. Don't shitpost our threads. They're all we have.
>>339665562
see >>339665482
it's not even the same developers, which is why the art style is "sort of but not actually valkyria" and the game has nothing in common beyond vague similarities and painterly stylings
>>339665761
Even if it's not the same devs, they had to have played the original games, right?
>>339665620
>>339640993
She looks dumpy
>>339665560
Depends on your measurement. PS3 had a vastly better selection of great exclusives, though what any one person would be interested in is subjective. In terms of numbers, it doesn't even matter, since Wii ran fucking train on that generation.
>>339665620
Good, I hope she'll be in love with the MC
>>339665560
I'd give it to the 360 since more people had one and multiplats were usually worse on the the triple because of it's unique hardware
>>339665620
>>339665927
Only way I'm getting this is if you can actually steal her from him for a higher price.
>>339639339
Why can't we just play as generic soldier battling overpowered edgy teenager?
Really a waste of design.
>>339668759
She's ugly.
>>339640318
>>339641404
>>339646004
Well, by that token then the original shouldn't have been very good either. They didn't know what they were going to do with it and the leads had come off of projects like Sakura Taisen.
Then again, they didn't have a prototype before they finalized the game vision, so there is that.
But hey, if Doom can go from being a bad game in its initial iterations to one that actually pleases old fans, maybe Sega can pull it off too.
>>339655284
No one cares what you think. They're talking about what actually happened when the game was in it's planning stages. There's a direct link between VC and Sakura Taisen as noted by the developers.
>>339668994
I'm sorry for your shit taste, anon.
>>339667609
>Spend years with the people of your company, platoon, and squad
>go up against what looks like armed civilians
>they throw fucking fireballs at your position
>run through your squads fire
>cut your friend in half with a sword the size of a motorcycle
>>339668759
>>339669392
I can't help but think she looks like a poor imitation of Varrot
>>339661915
I guess you also like Jinco Jeans, gurls with big boobys who are sluts, and punk rock, eh?
Post more notSelvaria.
>>339670389
There really isn't much to post though.
>>339670603
>>339670389
so what the fuck is her story anyways? is she just a mercenary?
>>339670981
She's fat
>>339671137
>>339671137
Fat in all the right places.
>>339670981
Probably just Selvaria's backstory recycled.
>>339672339
But can we fuck her this time?
Can we finally save 'Selvaria' in this game?
>>339668997
>No one cares what you think. They're talking about what actually happened when the game was in it's planning stages. There's a direct link between VC and Sakura Taisen as noted by the developers.
(citation needed)
have you ever actually spoken with sakura taisen fans in japan?
if you can back up any of the claims that you made, sure.
also doubt you have even played any of the games, besides maybe 5
>>339639339
Well the devs are actually listening to feedback so it has the potential to be good, I HOPE it will be good, but I doubt it actually will be.
>>339674087
Worst VC girl.
>>339677458
You are wrong.
>>339652572
>A beautiful present should be placed in a beautfiul place right?
Smooth as fuck.
>>339679383
Feels so out of character for him though.
>>339679729
I never played the game. What sort of dude is he?
>>339679958
See >>339674087
Very serious, no nonsense kind of person. All he thinks about is his work and he's kind of bad with people. Think Welkin, but instead of bugs it's strategy.
That's why they designed the main heroine to be more assertive and forward.
>>339680491
>We knew that some players wouldn't like the fact that Riela is older than the main character
Riela is 23 and Kurt is 22. Japan is fucked up man, that's barely even a difference.
>>339680491
>lead and envelop Kurt the way Riela did
>Kurt wants many children with her
I guess she enveloped his dick a lot before and after they got married?
>instead of bugs it's strategy
Okay now I'm imagining Kurt telling Riela how to wrap her legs around him by calling it a pincer attack.
>>339680973
20 and 21 actually.
