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Are you still mad, anon? I'm still mad
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Are you still mad, anon?

I'm still mad
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I'll always be mad as fuark. Fuck those lying hacks and everything with their name on it. Fuck their journalist butt bodies for turning on the players. Fuck nu-BioWare. Fuck EA.
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Yes, but I never actually played it myself. After the terrible abortion that was Dragon Age 2, I told myself I would never again play a Bioware game.
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>launched the game for the first time those years ago
>first thing i noticed is that i can't holster my weapon anymore
It all went downhill from there.
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>>339618047
>ME1+2
>First thing the game does after showing Shepard is opening the Dialogue wheel

>ME3
>Shepard goes on for 5 minutes before the dialogue wheel appears, you only get 2 options instead of 3

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRIAL YOU PROMISED US IN 2 YOU FUCKING HACKS
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Not even mad about the ending. Just mad at how shit the writing in this series has gotten since ME1.
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>entitled gamers demand holster
>entitled gamers demand a quest log
>entitled gamers demand closure without an anti-climactic ending
>entitled gamers demand a satisfactory reaper backstory without purchasing the Leviathan DLC

What a bunch of wusses. This is why video games aren't art.
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>>339618326
>AHHHHHHH AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS I'M FREE. TIME TO CONQUER EARTH
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>>339618358
>This isn't really a new thing - way back in 2012 I named Annie Wilkes the Patron Saint of Fandom after the childish, ridiculous uproar over the ending of Mass Effect 3. What I couldn't have known in 2012 was that the Mass Effect uprising was just a preview of the main event; that tantrum happened under the auspices of being a 'consumer revolt,' which would be the same kind of language behind which terrorist hate group GamerGate still hides. And in the years since Mass Effect 3 it seems as if the crazy has been ramping up, and as the wall dividing creators and fans gets ever thinner with each new social media platform the number of voices being raised has grown.

From an article I saw this morning. This narrative is still being pushed today.
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>>339618358
1/10 apply yourself
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Forever mad.
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>>339618431
>Shepard, the Collectors escaped, recruit a team of specialists with attitude.
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>>339618505
>article
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>>339618459
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>>339618551
You're right, it was more akin to a weird, rambling tirade.
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>>339618557
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>replaying ME2 right before the release of a third
>getting all hyped at the ending cutscene
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>>339617843
The worst part of it that the fans handed them the perfect DLC ending on a platter, they'd even pay for it.
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>>339618219
Thought i was the only one disapointed with this.

I expected a full 30 minute something prologue on earth before shit went down, where you would recap events from ME and ME2, and have to defend every action you took so far.

Even when the beta leaked and showed nothing like that i defended it by saying it was still incomplete.

I will forever be mad.
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If I'm not mistaken, the DLC has never been on sale on Origin to this day.

Between ME2 and 3, the series has several DLC's integral to the plot, they are not just "extras".

Fuck EAWare will a loaded rocket launcher.
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>>339618630
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>>339617843
>play Mass Effect
>Love it

>Play Mass Effect 2
>Find it pretty bad
>Shadow Broker DLC was pretty good though

>Play Mass Effect 3
>Find it pretty bad
>Citadel DLC is pretty fun though

It wouldn't hurt so much if there wasn't clearly people on the team who still cared.

If I ever find out I have a terminal illness, I'm going to bomb EA.
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>>339618734
FUCK
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>>339617843
I dropped it before leaving the first mission, I am mad but nowhere near as mad as I would be if I played through that piece of shit
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>>339618014
But dragon age 2 was a good game you delusional fuck
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the worst thing about franchise is how hard they pushed Liara and how greatly her personality changed from nerdy scientist to professional information broker
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>>339617843
always relevant
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>>339618817
BIOWARE FOREVER
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>>339618673
They're not even on the Trilogy, aren't they?
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Mass Effect 3 was great.

Robo waifu was best waifu, meatbags need not apply
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>>339617843
Always and forever.
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I was never mad because I knew to drop this series at 2.
Thank god I never played or even looked forward to the 3rd game.
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>Kaidan is suddenly a faggot
>Ashley became 99% botox
>Tali goes full retard
>Javik is DLC and does nothing but bitch and moan
>EDI is suddenly a sexbot though that's not too bad
>Gristle McThornbody needed a movie to be interesting
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>>339618963
Of course not. Also see:

>>339618719
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Been mad since 2
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>>339619040
Ashley's transformation from a soldier girl to some ugly botox abomination was the most horrifying thing.
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>>339618896
Dragon Age 2 was quite literally, the worst game I have ever paid money for. There is no possibility that you are serious. There are no positives to this game.
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Nope. I didn't play it after how badly they butchered Mass Effect 2. Glad I didn't, because in retrospect it looks like I absolutely made the right decision to let ME1 stand alone in my memory.
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Forever and always. I love this series and I can't even replay it because the ending hurts too much. I'm not even hyped for Andromeda.
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>>339618786
>we've had a good run
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I knew how hard they fucked it up before going through 3.
I took matters into my own hands and told the Catalyst to go fuck himself.

Reapers win, fuck it.
Didn't matter. According to the epilogue kid, "That's why we have peace."
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>>339617843
>all decisions are useless in the end
>you just chose the colour of the screen before the credits roll
I'll still be mad in 20 years.
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>>339619247
>andromeda isn't a reskinned space dandy where you do jack shit instead of saving the universe
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God I loved this series and I still feel utterly betrayed by the ending.

Halo 2 had a better ending compared with ME3
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>>339619247
Andromeda will be DAI in space.
The thought alone horrifies me.
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>>339618505
>terrorist hate group GamerGate
Goobergators confirmed worse than ISIS
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>>339619198
Do you even understand how hard it is to create a game? Dragon age 2 was the fucking shit because it was completely original in story making and gameplay, and at the time it came out reveiwers chewed it out because they have such high standards,like women.
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>>339617843
I'm still mad that you were never able to fight against volus, elcor or hanar. And no epic space battles
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i've never had a game kill my desire to replay two of my all time favorite games at once, so yes i'm still mad
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>>339619070
This, didn't even bother playing 3 after how terrible 2 was.
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>>339619569
>reviewers
>high standards
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>>339619198
Femhawke x Isabela is really qt.

Apart from that, yeah, it's pretty much complete shit.
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Didn't buy ME3 because I got sufficiently burnt by Dragon Age 2.

Of any recent games I can recall Dragon age 2 and Guild Wars 2 are those that I well and truly hate.
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>>339618014
Torrent it, it's not that bad.
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>>339619149
What's even worse is how they treated her compared to Liara

>Liara with you since beginning of game
>Ashley gets straight destroyed...lol sorry she won't be with you for half the game
>hey Ash is back.........
>5 dialogue lines on the ship before she passes out on the floor and you can't do shit

>meanwhile Liara has all new dialogue every fucking single time you talk to her

Like come on at least make all the LI's have the same amount of screen time you fucking faggots
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>>339619756
Me3 is still worth a playthrough. If you go into not expecting some awesome series encapsulating ending it still has some bright spots.
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>iwillneverstopbeingmad.pasta
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>>339619247
Mass Effect as an entire IP was so amazing to me it was the only series i cared about anymore for video games. I actually sat there till the end of the credits after ME1..hell I still play it on Thanksgiving as a tradition but fuck Bioware for what they did to this series.

I stopped at the FoB..THAT was my ending fuck that shit. Like you I could care less about Andromeda .

The great this is Bioware went after the CoD audience saying "Hey you can join in at 3! No worries!" Then you see the stats and like not even half the player base finished 3.
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>>339617843
>Walk up to an explosive canister and kill yourself along with everyone with bionic or cybernetic implants, possibly billions more through the destruction of hospitals and spaceships/stations
>This doesn't even fucking solve the Reapers problem of people making robots later.

>Become the supreme machine overlord of the galaxy, slaving millions of hivemind beings to your will
>The only way to prevent the Reaper's problem is the institute a police state were technological development is heavily monitored.

>Force EVERYTHING in the galaxy against their will to become some kind of organic machine monstrosity
>THIS STILL DOESN'T FUCKING STOP THEM FROM MAKING ROBOTS LATER ON.

The most insulting part was when the kid said there wasn't enough time to find a better solution. THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT IS BECAUSE YOUR REAPERS ARE MURDERING EVERYONE JUST TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF.
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>>339619296
Shepherd holding the line long enough for Liara to seed the galaxy with databases was the only "good ending". We were too wrapped up in ourselves to prepare for what was to come, but maybe the next cycle could.

As a plus, you could say that the next cycle began to clone and reproduce humans and asari so that those races could exist again. Hey look, I just made a plot hook for Mass Effect 4!
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>>339617843
Yes
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>>339619967

Yeah I might if it goes on sale for some piddly ass sum. I just never bother to check origin all that often.

ME2 was alright but I think a great part of ME1 being charming and engaging was the fact that it wasn't so big-box-office AAA product. At least I don't remember it being so - I remember it being a bioware game for the Xbox360 and I'd think only its success really catapulted it ahead the way a KOTOR or Jade Empire didn't manage to.

I'm not hyped for Andromeda, do not expect anything good to come of it, doubt anything will, but I will give them the consideration that I will actually look at it and consider it after it releases to decide if it's worth it. I won't just dismiss it entirely out of hand.'
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Mad that they continued to ruin gaming with this choose-your-own-adventure pseudo-RPG shit gameplay fuckery for THREE goddamn games?

You fucking bet I am.
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>>339618326
Thats because it was a whole different group of people writing it.

Pretty much fan fiction at that point.
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>>339617843
>Oh it's the Geth/Council
>The Geth/Council have fucked up the Quarians/Krogan and their homeworld
>now we need their forces so it's time to make amends
>Oh no a reaper is there to stop us better use the Fleet/thresher maw to kill it
>now a member of the Geth/Council who is close to you must sacrifice themselves to bring peace between the two factions.

FUCK
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>>339619569
>completely original in story making and gameplay
please stop
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>>339619198
I thought most of the characters/story in DA2 was ok. The revolting things about that game are the horrible armor/weapon designs and the fact that the whole game is in Kirkwall and that shitty beach.
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Man all of Mass Effect 3 and the shit surrounding it was really fucked
At least Inquisition was a step in the right direction, maybe Andromeda will be good
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That multiplayer tho
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>>339617843
Yes. And the worst part is the gameplay is so good, and the art is so good, and the Citadel DLC is so good.

It's a really good game, it's just a terrible, abysmal, failed Mass Effect.
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>>339622498
>Citadel
>all those cringy, """quirky""" comedic dialogues
>that fucking missed opportunity of having your clone join you
>good
yeah nah, only the party/apartment banter parts were good
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>>339622084
That multiplayer was good yeah. Pretty much exactly what I expected.

Sentinel Master Race
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>>339623141
Drell adept
Fucking walking arterially
Having that dope semi auto raptor sniper too
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>>339617843
I am absolutely livid
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WHO THE FUCK ATE MY CEREALS?
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Always
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>>339617843
Mass effect 3 was already a mediocre game without the endings
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>You actually get to be in a relationship with whoever you picked in the last game instead of doing the usual Conquest of Fucking
>The entire genophage conclusion
>The entire Geth conclusion
>Cidadel was apparently good?
>Gameplay felt tight as fuck
>That Multiplayer

It's an alright game. I mean, it fucked up everything forever and is the most shitty fucking conclusion to the previous games that anyone could've possibly dreamed up and should be shot into the fucking sun to stop it from hurting humanity any further. but it's okay.
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>>339623505
never 4get
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>>339617843
>Are you still mad, anon?
No.
Yes i am am you fucking nigger!ME3 killed the series and my desire to ever play them again!
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I'm still glad they fucked the Geth up so badly with that Reaper Code bullshit
"Hey we dont wanna join the Reapers because we want to evolve on our own path"
"NVM we want the Reaper Code
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>>339617843
I finished ME3 for the first time like a month ago.
I wasn't mad actually, I expected the shittiest ending possible and I got it.
The rest of the game was pretty garbage though.
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>>339618990
I for one welcome our new fembot overlords
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>>339623721
It's outstanding the amount of things that book fucks up:

>Character ages five or so years in six months
>Gay character turns straight
>Kid forgets/gets cured of autism
>Citadel is the shape of an open flower
>Disease designed specifically for the Illusive man's DNA, the most paranoid and private citizen outside the OG shadow broker
>That fucking paragraph
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>>339617843
I expecte a shit ending from the start, because the only way to defeat eldricht creatures you can't comprehend and are infinitly superior to yourself is to not really fight them at all, like ME1 did.
But ME3s ending still surprised with how half-assed and lazy it was.
What made this the straw that broke the camels back for me was how the whole disaster was handled. Instead of admiting that they wrote a terrible ending, Bioware decided that to start at massive war against their own fans.
Haven't bought a Bioware game ever since. Don't plan to, either. I pirated DAI but it was so painfully mediocre, devoid of creativity and boring that I couldn't finish it.
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>>339623721
I'm not sure I even understand what this is trying to tell me. Dude bugged his own apartment?
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>>339623721
>how do we show our new character, Kai Leng, Master Assassin, is a super badass?
>we'll have him eat someone else's cereal!

wat
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>>339624181
Are YOU badass enough to eat someone else cereal?

Didn't think so, BITCH.
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The console version of this game has a 93 metacritic. Not one review is labelled negative. Compared to the fan reaction, it should tell enough what's wrong with the review culture. There's no variety, no actual criticism.

>>339622498
>gameplay is so good

Gee, I sure love those terrible quest, noexistent enemy variety and virtually removing all galactic exploration. I sure like playing hide and seek with reapers. Great gameplay mechanics right there!

In fact, the only mission that stands out to me as memorable is the geth mission where you explore their past. With no combat at all.
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>>339623721
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>The last words of the Mass Effect trilogy were "downloadable content"
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>>339617843
Mass Effect 1 was the only good game.

Mass Effect 2 had literally no choices that mattered until the end boss stage where you chose who did what, and the story had nothing to do with the Reapers or the main plot line. The whole game was literally just one big side quest.

On top of that, they removed the exploration and roaming of worlds on your own, made every world a linear quest-fest, and made planet scaling annoying as all fucking hell.

Mass Effect 3....was that even a game?

God Bioware is such shit. People rag on Bethesda for not putting out good games anymore, but at least they're enjoyable.
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>>339624819
planet scanning annoying as all fucking hell*
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>thermal clips
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>>339624813
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I never even tried ME3 because Mass Effect 2 was one of the worst sequels I've ever played, almost rivaling Oblivion
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Outside of the ending the game was good.
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>>339625006
>posting marty
>too much of a pussy to post the full image
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>>339624951
>instead of trying to actually make that change make sense they created a conversation with Conrad just to spite the people that actually gave a shit about the lore
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>>339623721
Holy shit, I've read the books and don't even remember this.

What page is it on?
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>>339624772
>Bioware could write villains once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdy-k_qLdQg
Now it is but the memory of a memory
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>>339624772
needs an (age 8) at the bottom of the right side one.
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>>339625284
No they couldn't.
Irenicus is only memorable because of the voice actor
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>>339617843

Mad as fuck and also heartbroken, was my favourite series that I followed when the first news came out about 1. Now I just get sad if I think about it.
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>>339625284
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Was there a more disappointing reveal than how Quarians looked under their suits?
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>>339625047
And outside the intro on earth
and the quest system
and the gimped dialogue wheel
and the ham fisted gay pandering
and the shitty resolutions that were >>339620792
and TIM being turned into a babbling idiot
and Kai Leng
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Mordin is the best and by the end only decent character in the entire series
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>>339625006
I require a sauce on that
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>>339617843
It's amazing how sad it is to replay it from 1, and how you can see the rot set in during 2.

>ending of 1 sets us up for finding out how to stop the reapers
>has the council backing us up, or humanity leading the charge in their absence
>has a guy who understands prothean and an expert in protheans in the team, allowing us to plumb their mysterious ways or even find new tech from their previously inaccessible ruins
>we're the space equivalent of james bond, that can go anywhere and do anything with full council backing but isn't a space ma
>have so many unique races and cultures to explore
>mfw I run slap bang into 2 and the reset button hits, sending us hurtling into Mr TiM's wild plothole ride

I'm glad I played 2 first, and glad I did my full replay before 3 released and made me far less forgiving of the story fuck ups.
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>>339625605
Steve was pretty bro when he wasn't crying about his buttbuddy, tbqh.
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>>339625791
Have I missed something or they did a full switch of him from
>genophage was a right choice
to
>genophage was evil as shit
between games with no word of explanation?
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>>339625886
So his entire character?

Big Large mcHuge was all right. Better then I thought he'd be pre launch

Tali is joint with Liara as the worst written party members
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>>339625946
It was pretty obvious in two he regretted it. Dude turned from Super Scientist at the top of his field with a job in STG to a guy running a Clinc at the arse end of the galaxy just to attempt to feel he redeemed himself
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>>339625886
>Well dear I'm about to die in 10 seconds, but we should really see other people it's not like we were that close anyway

If I were a faggot, I would be pretty triggered.
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>>339625886
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE
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>>339626117
ok, he had his doubts, you can push him one way or the other IIRC. But in 3 he's 100% convinced no matter what.
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>>339625878
>Holy shit TIM, you have proof of the reapers? Why don't you show it to everyone so we can not fucking die.

>lel it's too complicated behind my super complex algorithms. Now go kill yourself in this obvious trap I've set up, It's not like I spent 4 gorrillion credits to bring you back
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>>339626242
YOU'RE GOING PAY FOR THAT
EUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGG
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>>339626381
I guess that's cause he actually had the opportunity and need to undo his work

Plus, fuck up enough and you can actually convince him to not cure it
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>>339626020
>So his entire character?
I dunno.
Apart from his second or third dialogue (the dead hubby part) I can't remember him bringing it up.
Maybe because I was playing a grill?
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>>339625946
in two it was clear he didn't believe what he was saying at all and was desperately trying not to hate himself

i agree he's the only decent character
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>>339625878
> tfw we could have been double operative thats playing both sites with beautiful gray moral line
> tfw we could have explored deep blackwater Cerberus experiments, bases, locations, motivations, end goals, helped it expand and rise through rank while doing the same for Alliance and Council Races, becoming Saren 2.0
> tfw could have wifed Aria and became universe behind the curtain biggest crime boss
> tfw could have became Shadow Borker as well
> tfw could have explored crypt worlds and pre space races
> tfw Dark matter theory
> tfw Indoctrination theory
> tfw We never actually caught Bane's
I usually just go to sleep and think about how the game should have ended like an autist
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>>339617843
I'm not that mad anymore. Doesn't mean I forgive Bioware or EA though.
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>>339618913
I fucking hate how Liara will always try to seduce you to the point where she becomes bipolar just to have that Shepard dicc
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>>339623141
You i like you. Always teamed up as a Turian sentinel. Exploding the shit out of everyone with tech blasts.
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If I knew what would happen I'd have nuked them both.
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>>339627304
>The two points in the game she might be useful as the shadow broker Traynor discovers Sanctuary and someone else places the tracer on Kai Leng

Liara is incompetent
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>>339627540
Ash is a goddess thought, Kaidan was Karth 2.0
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>>339627596
Still gets me mad that people thought she was space hitler, just because she didn't go down and mongle alien cock
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>>339627596
She was great in the first game.

But the third absolutely destroys her.
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>>339617843
I play this on WiiU

> additional buttons feels good, man.
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>>339619070
>>339619682
Were you as pissed off about the music as I was?

ME1 had an absolutely fantastic score that brought back all the right themes from the Sci-Fi it was paying homage to.
Then we get 2, which tried to have the aesthetic of Blade Runner and then went with a generic orchestral backing.
Though I'll admit the suicide mission and TiM themes were great
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>>339629042
My hearing got incapacitated by increased levels of blood pressure from all the gameplay, level design and writing changes so I don't even remember the soundtrack of 2.
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>>339629309
I don't blame you for a second
Compare and contrast the title themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVg0tyWbI0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV1pPgpcAVw
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maybe if you stopped giving EA your money you'd be less of a faggot right now
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>>339619040
>EDI
>It says it is having a thing with Joker
>asks if its OK with you
>can't reply that you are jealous and would have liked a shot with it

Fuck this universe! Save yourself!
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>>339629925
Unfortunately, despite the blowback EA got, it looks like retards are right back with them again.
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>>339624813
This was THE most insulting thing about it. I was told that my actions in the past games would matter, that this game would tie everything together in the end. As the game went on I felt a growing dread as I realized it was just throwing the same situations at me that the past two games already had me deal with. I was massively disappointed. Then I got to the end sequence. I picked my ending and it was the most retarded thing I've ever seen. This game showed promise but it fumbled everything it was trying to do in the worst way possible. I'm still mad.

Multiplayer was fun, though
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>>339631034
>Multiplayer was fun, though
It's amazing that such a gem could be found in such a turd.
If they'd beefed up the missions and improved the progression, I'd have bought it standalone.
Would have been great if they'd had dedicated gear packs you could choose to get rather than the generic ok, good, great, best crates, but I suppose that would have cut down on dumbasses spending real life money on it.
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>>339631846
Yeah, I was surprised about the multi because I thought it would be throwaway trash. Turns out that's what the game was and I spent more time in multi than the singleplayer.

Never even bothered to download the "expanded" ending or any of the other DLCs.
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>>339617843
Always.
Still never buying another Bioware or EA game ever again.
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>>339617843
Of course I'm still mad!
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>>339618963
For me, I bought the Trilogy from a store and it had the Extended cut.
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>>339624757
>non-existent enemy variety
This part is bait. You're bullshiting me in that Phantoms are in no way different to Atlas mechs, or Banshees are exactly like Brutes, or that Geth Hunters are identical to Geth Primes.

Also that Geth virtual space mission is boring imo.
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i actually enjoyed all the 3 games and cannot wait for andromeda
>>339617843
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>>339631034
But certain past decisions you have done in previous ME games do affect the outcome in Mass Effect 3. For example, in Mass Effect 1, killing Wrex on Vimire means Wreav will come into power of the Urdnot Clan, meaning later on after the events of Mass Effect 3, it's shown he's planning to build an empire by starting war with the galaxy. But in Mass Effect 2, keeping Maelon's data will keep Eve alive, therefore if Wreav is in power, Eve will try to stop him from continuing his plans.

And then there's the Quarians and the Geth in where accomplishing certain tasks in Mass Effect 2 like proving Tali's innocence without bring up her father's actions, and destroying the Geth heretics in Legion's loyalty mission, increases your capability to convince the Migrant Fleet to stand down against the Geth.

And there's also the minor things like with Conrad Verner and Balak.
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>>339632448
Given how long they spent shitting on anyone who dared criticise it, it's funny that now they want to pretend the original ending never happened
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>>339628906
>Buying a highly inferior version of a game.
Enjoy not having those nice save transfers.
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>>339618542
How did the Illusive Man know that a team of specialists would be enough to do the job? What if the Collectors had like 6 Reapers stashed away in the core, and the Collector base had like 500 Generals spread throughout it? Why doesn't Shepard just tell literally anyone about the Collector Base immediately after irradiating it, instead choosing to let Cerberus have it uncontested? Does the Alliance duct tape the Collector Base remains to the Crucible when they find it again in ME3 and it shows up as a War Asset? Who thought that centering an entire plot around Cerberus and leaving all Reaper plot until the last ten minutes of the game was a good idea, especially after ME2 wasted an entire game doing nothing? Was Kai Leng a joke? Was Diana Allers a hallucination? Did they go out of their way to make Jacob as unlikable as possible in ME3? How did people who romanced Miranda feel? Was the entire writing staff on drugs when they made it canon that the Protheans came close to defeating the Reapers? What did Mac Walters mean by the Rachni having profound effects on the ending? Was killing Emily Wong on Twitter really a good idea? How does that kid in the first mission keep up with Anderson and Shepard through taking roughly the same route? After the atmospheric and unique final missions of ME1 and ME2, how did Bioware manage to make such a boring Gears of War lite final mission here? How many more questions can I synthesize if I keep rubbing salt into the wound?
Man, Bioware games really make you think.
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I was mad. I was sad. I spent so much time across 3 games and nothing really mattered

Although if I actually spent money on it I might have been livid.
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>>339619569
It wasn't even a finished game. I honestly don't understand how you can defend it.
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>>339623141
>>339623246
>>339627506
>not doing geth trooper
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>>339619247
I want to believe that Andromeda will be good. Hudson isn't there to fuck everything up with his shit writing, it's a new team, and it's in an entirely new galaxy. They even brought back planetary exploration with the Mako. I want it to be good, but I'm still wary as fuck
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I'm still mad and will remain forever mad.
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>>339617843
With 3? No, after 2 you knew what was coming.
Maybe it's because I only played with the extended cut, but 1>3>2.

3 is better than 2 in every way that concerns quality and not reductionist arguments based on pure numbers like '2 has more squadmembers/sidequests so those things are automatically better than in 3.'

And I liked seeing the other species' husk forms.
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>>339618990
>>339623958
>>339619040
Literally the only good thing to come out of ME 3 was all the EDI porn
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I never liked the series
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>>339640228
Then fuck off, some of us are trying to be angry
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3 was great. Best gameplay in the series.

People never give gameplay the credit it deserves when they're playing a game. Sorry your shitty Hollywood story ended in a shitty Hollywood fashion.
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1st one was shit, 2nd was shit, 3rd was even bigger shit. Yusomad?
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>>339641041
>best gameplay in the series

linear hallway shooting with zero roleplay elements. I guess the core shooting is fine, but there's more to good gameplay than that.
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>>339617843

Yes I am. Fuck Bioware as it is devoured by EA.

Fuck those lying assholes into oblivion.
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>>339641807

It wasn't BioWare's fault: EA bought them after ME1 and the rest is history. EA has a history of taking good companies and running them into the ground until they close the studio.
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>>339641407
And what exactly is 2? It's the same thing, but with even less customization.

And 1 is an even more flawed game that becomes a joke with certain classes.
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>>339641941

I know. But they let themselves be bought. So they deserve their fate.
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Why is ME2 so fucking overrated?
Story is literally
>Make a team
>Make team happy/loyal
>Attack the colector base
Thats it, literally 3 fucking missions, and zero rpg elements
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>>339623018
That alone was worth the price of admission, as far as I'm concerned. I honestly forget that the whole clone thing was a part of it.
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>>339641941
EA is responsible for the casualisation, the anti consumer practise, shameless pandering and all the problems that rushing out the game/cutting out bits for DLC caused.

Bioware is still fully to blame for all the story and character fuck ups.

DA2 is an example of EA being solely to blame, but ME3 doesn't have that excuse. In fact EA is responsible for one of the best bits - The multiplayer.
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>>339642186

The appeal of the ME series is the characters, and ME2 has the most interaction and development with them.
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>>339642502
Hey Shepard, every character wants to talk to you about their Daddy issues that are higher priority than saving there galaxy.
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>>339642186
People like the big squad, which one of the big issues with 2. With so many teammates, you were never going to use all of them or care about half of them.

>here's my 1 character trait!
>FAMILY/PERSONAL ISSUES
>thanks for ignoring the mission for my petty bullshit shepard
>now allow me to get into a fight with another crew member
>I have nothing more to say the rest of the game

It's almost like they didn't want you to get all of them in one playthrough, so you could have different squads when you replayed but they never forced you to not recruit them all so everyone got everyone and the game suffered for it.
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>>339642464

>Bioware is still fully to blame for all the story and character fuck ups

Drew Karpyshyn was the writer for ME1 and bits of ME2 (enough to give him co-writer credit). Coincidence he left after EA's buyout?

>>339642168

I would say no one deserves the fate of being swallowed by EA
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YES
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The multiplayer was the greatest thing to happen to the entire series. I'm not even mad at 3 because of how god like the multiplayer was. FUCK I have so many good memories of it. Geth infiltrator/ tier whore reporting in.
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>>339617843
DA2 made me mad
I never was mad over ME3 just purely depressed
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>>339642964
A writer moving shouldn't cause the colossal tonal shift and plot hole clusterfuck that happened in 2 and 3.
In any decent company, they'd have peer review processes to catch those problems and notes on where the series was going for the sake of consistency.
1 left blatant avenues of exploration, and they were all ignored.
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>>339617843
I fell for the Trilogy meme and bought the Collectors Edition, so yes.
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What pisses me off the most is how good the game was UNTIL the fucking earth part

you end a fucking war betheween the quarian and the geth

you cure the FUCKING GENOPHAGE, giving wrex a reason to fight for the first time in his life

that green fucker, thane had the best fucking death ever

anderson and shepard diying side by side on the destroyed citatel, finaly ready to destroy every single reaper
then
fuck you
blue space kid
zero becomes one that becomes zero multiplied by 2

not even MGS4 was that fucked up
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I'm still mad. I adored ME1+2 and now going back to play them just feels bitter.

>>339618680
>implying Bioware wanted you to reflect on your actions at all
would have been a really neat moment to flip supposed 'paragon' and 'renegade' options on their heads to show that intention isn't always the best indicator of how things work out.
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>>339619517
Inquisition wasn't horrible. It was just painfully mediocre and boring. I hope Andromeda is nothing like Inquisition. I don't want to play a single player mmo.
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>>339642761

You don't have to agree with it, but that's what people liked.

ME2 also improved a lot on ME1, like adding interrupts, removing superfluous dialogue options, having the hubs vary a lot in architecture and tone. It's technically better even though it's less of an RPG.

Only flaws are removing the sleek sexy skin-tight armor from ME1 for generic shit, making biotics suck on higher difficulties, and removing the Mako for an even worse planet probe grindfest.
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>>339626381
I liked that character development. He had an independent goal from Shepard's will. The fact that you couldn't convince him is what made him 'real' in the place of the story.
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The galaxy map music was top tier though.
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>>339643951
>tfw that leak about an improved dialogue system with more interrupts and dialogue interrupts integrated, and more often, into Andromeda
feelin a little bit of the hype
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>>339642186
ME1 is far more overrated. It had more issues than both ME2 and ME3. And was every bit as mediocre as the sequels.
People enjoyed ME2 because it is actually a fun vame. The combat was far better than ME1. The cast was solid and had a nice mix. The music was good. Graphically it was the best looking game of the series. And the suicide mission was the highlight point of the series. People can say it was "dumbed down" but the game was still rock solid.
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Sometimes I think I'm not mad and want to replay them and think about getting the trilogy
Then I remember the trilogy doesn't have all the dlc and I get annoyed, then I think about it more and remember the ending and I get full on mad again and say fuck it
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>>339642186
ME1 was also like 3 missions.
Got recruit Liara.
Go to Virmire to stop Saren.
Go to ilos to stop Saren.
If you do just the core missions in ME1, you can complete the game in like 5 hours. And let's not pretend the side quests in ME1 didn't suck ass.
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>>339643951
>removing the Mako
not having that stupid car was the best thing that happened to Mass effect
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>>339627596
I nuked her solely because of what she becomes in 3.
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>>339644206
We shall see in a few days at E3.
Not buying into any hype until I actually see the game itself in motion.
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>>339643951
No inventory, no vehicles, less skills, no lockpicking, global cooldowns on skills making combat slower, no crouching, thermal clips, no weapon modification, shields block biotics, armor blocks biotics, less enemy variety (I hope you like thugs, no weird stuff like the geth hoppers or colossus), no planet exploration (it was bad, but should have been improved, not removed.)

But on top of all of that, (and those are just gameplay changes, I have beef with the story but that's another matter.)

The way paragon/renegade works in 2 is awful, in 1 it's a skill, in 2 it is entirely dependent on your previous dialogue choices. To successfully do a paragon or renegade option you must have a certain paragon or renegade score, this is calculated based on how many paragon or renegade dialogue options you've done in the past, and weighed against how many you could have made at any given time based on how many you've encountered so far. What this means is that you must pick one and stick to it, you can't be neutral, and you can't intimidate someone if you've been a nice guy half way across the galaxy.
It's shit.
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so why did they push the lil' kid angle that much?
why not have all those scenes feature the various named npc's you let die throughout the rest of the series?
God knows there'd have been at least some emotional impact
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>>339644619
The mako itself wasn't bad on the story planets, just the exploration ones.
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>>339644619
No clue why some people liked the Mako. It was fucking shit, and exploration was a joke. And don't give me the "it had potential" bullshit. Exploration in ME1 was garbage, plain and simple.
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>>339624813
KEK
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>>339644740
I agree. I'm sure it's going to have a much more Halo-esque feel to it, especially with the jetpacks, but if space wizardry is still top tier I'm sold.

On a pirate, at least. If the story is good will be the deciding factor for me.
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>>339644809
>locking picking

One of the most useless skill sets in ME1. It's the fucking future, why can't I just blast open fucking lockers. Using skill points for such a mundane skill was stupid.
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you know, I've been thinking and I honestly cannot come up with a single worse vidya character than Kai Leng
Given the fucker actually originated from what's essentially fan fiction, the term Mary Sue is, for once, entirely applicable
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I only played it to have my space adventures with Wrex and Garrus

overall I think all three games equally have their flaws and strong points.

1 has the best story and does the best job of introducing the lore to players. But it's a really roughly polished gem.

2 in retrospect really is the best, despite me initially hating it because it didn't exactly feel like 1. But it's the most consistent experience, and has great DLC.

3 was just plagued by really, really, _really_ bad writing overall. It still had good gameplay, has some great character bonding moments, and the ship feels the most alive in 3. But for every good moment there's two shit ones. Ending is just the shit cherry on top.
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>>339619040
You're forgetting one thing.
>Thane, the best assassin in the whole fucking world, gets impaled by an edgy chink cyborg
>Nobody shot Leng even though he didn't ever take cover
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>>339644809
You can be neutral. When a renegade or paragon interrupt pops up, just don't do anything. You don't have to do them.
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>>339645076
so why don't you just go and blast open all 200 year old safes easily?
just because its the future doesn't mean that you aren't wielding a rifle and trying to use it on a solid supersteel door with deadbolts
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>>339645265
Anyone who picked an ending other than Destroy or Control is objectively wrong.
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>>339645189
Yeah he is probably the worst character Bioware has ever created. Sera from Inquisition isn't that far off.
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>>339645305
>shooting
fucking that shit, my Shep was a full on biotic, the minute he killed Thane that fucker should have been a stain on the floor, ceiling and all 4 walls
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>>339643513

>and they were all ignored

That's where all the anger comes from. It was all fucking ignored by 3.

2 at least had hints about the dark energy with the sun on the Quarian colony world. Then Mac the Hack took over.
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>tfw when you literally spent more time playing the mutliplayer component than the actual game

It was so bad, I didn't even complete it. Compared to the 5 playthroughs I did in 1 and 2 I did in 2.
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>>339619923
This pissed me off so much. I treat Liara like shit for the first two games because I despise her character, then she's literally the only person who wants to talk, ever, and even fucking invades your cabin regularly to try and be your therapist.

I rejected every single one of her attempts to be my friend and she still asks for sum fuk before the Sovereign charge. WHY
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>>339643513
>mass effect 3
>plot holes
I remember the writing being shit, but what plot holes were there?

>>339643675
The ending of 3 was the ending to the reaper arc and I thought it was fine in that regard. Like you said, the rest was good or acceptable. The 'body' of 3 was the resolution to all the plot threads/character stories in 1 and 2. 3 is the ending of the series, the ending of 3 is just the ending to the damn near impossible to write (because of ME1) Reaper story.

>>339643745
How can you have "adored" ME2 but hate 3 so much?
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>>339645424
>everyone forgets Diana Allers even exists
Every time
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>>339645590
>but what plot holes were there?
The mere existence of the crucible for one
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>>339645736

Allers isn't that bad because you can ignore her and kill her off.

Kai Leng is unavoidable and has plot armor. He's way, way worse.
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>>339645507
2 is just as guilty of that.

The prothean subplots left open, investigating the reapers, the Spectre initiation and more just got dropped in favour of stagnating the plot.
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>>339645590
Because ME2 was a good game, and ME3 shat all over itself narratively.
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>>339619967
>one of the most disappointing endings in all of video games
>worth a playthrough

the whole game was mediocre at a best, outright insulting at worst if you were a fan. fuck you for even recommending it to some stranger on the internet
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>>339645358
>not having all the benefits of the borg with the individuality sentient organics love so much
Synthesis has no downside.

>>339645507
>implying the dark energy plot was even fleshed out
In 1 and 2 (just like any tv show planned for multiple seasons), they put out more ideas than they ever intend on using so they have options when making the next game.

>I find it funny that fans end up hearing a couple things they like about it and in their minds they add in all the details they specifically want," he explained. "It's like vapourware - vapourware is always perfect, anytime someone talks about the new greatest game. It's perfect until it comes out. I'm a little weary about going into too much detail because, whatever we came up with, it probably wouldn't be what people want it to be.
That's a quote from Drew Krapshanks himself.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-19-ex-bioware-writer-discusses-dropped-ideas-for-mass-effect-trilogy-ending
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>>339645736
Kai Leng was worse in every way
you could ignore Diana existed and sure while in every other situation she'd be the worst (heck yet another character I'd gladly use mary sue as a term for) by virtue of her not only being a downright bad but also because of being a character who's writer killed off a vastly more suitable character in order to justify her existence
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>>339619040
SLAB BULKHEAD
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>>339625531
nothing comes to mind. ME3 was the most disappointing thing I've ever witnessed in all of vidya

and I've pretty much played them all, it was a farce.
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>>339617843
I wish the game had ended at this scene. Your choices still wouldn't matter in this case, but I'd prefer it to the fucking crucible shit
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>>339645747
How is that a plot hole?

>>339645918
3 has better gameplay and a better plot than 2, how is 2 such a great game while 3 is shit again?
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>>339645736
She was also pretty bad. But you can at least tell her to fuck off the second you meet her.
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>>339645590
>I remember the writing being shit, but what plot holes were there?

>Reapers take the form of the species they're made of even though every single one of them looks like Sovereign
>We just found something to save the galaxy in the Mars Archives even though we've been studying them before we even knew there were other races
>The Reapers targeted Earth first for no fucking reason instead of taking the Relays towards the Citadel ASAP
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If you actually try to RP (gasp) a bit, Destroy is the only ending that makes any sense
Just try and think of it in terms of what information Shepard has available to him.
Control might seem like a decent option BUT up to that point literally every and any attempt to harness even the slightest amount of reaper technology has resulted in massive scale indoctrination, what exactly has that starchild done up to that moment to prove its not yet another reaper ploy or its merely being naive enough to think a human brain could actually control the reapers.
And synthesis is even worse in that aspect, it literally comes out of nowhere, nothing in the entire YEARS leading up to that moment hinted at it being possible, how can an intelligent Shepard justify gambling the lives of all species in the galaxy on what may very well be the biggest load of bullshit in the history of agriculture.

Now WE know that all 3 options are valid, but Shepard him/her self would not
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>>339633142
I sure love fighting against Cerberus. And reaper forces. And then more cerberus. And maybe some geth. And then more cerberus. And reaper. Sure makes for great variety! The fights get boring because there's little new in them every time. Sure, the various elements fight differently (I would certainly hope so, anything less would be fucking retarded), but with little real variety in the factions and the actual things you fight during the game I certainly stand by my statement that enemy variety is shit.

As for more bad gameplay, the dream segments come to mind as badly implemented with no emotional interest and poor implementation. The weigth system was also poorly implemented in my opinion (although I will give them credit for a altogether better weapon system than ME2), and quite frankly thermal clips in general were a mistake (both lore-wise and gameplay wise). The boss battles are dull and unremarkable, Kai Leng fights and the reaper detroyer on the Quarian planet comes to mind as examples of those. The dialog system in general is also questionable, but that's not unique to ME2. The exploration of both the galaxy, "hubs" and planets have been further cut back from ME2. Connecting multiplayer to the single player campaign was a terrible aspect that should never have been implemented. It only made me more annoyed, not more likely to play the multiplayer. They had a team member as day one DLC in a game that cut back on the number of team mates from the previous.

That's not covering the writing, that's another mess.
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>>339646196
>Your choices still wouldn't matter in this case, but I'd prefer it to the fucking crucible shit
The choices matter to the story, just like in 1 and 2. People that look to the final 15-20 minutes as the result of their choices are delusional. Your choices (just about all of them) came up during the whole of ME3, but because they didn't right at the end (aside from math) everyone goes 'lol choices dun matter'.
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>>339646449
>Destroy is the only ending that makes any sense

All of them make exactly the same amount of sense, which is to say, none, because they are all the same ending
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>>339646245
because according to ME1, it should have been scoured from the face of the galaxy.

If you have to ask how I know that, I'm going to have to disregard any opinions you have.
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>>339646245
>3 has a better plot
-2 was character focused, which was it's major strength and the major strength in Bioware games
-the overarching plot of Harbinger, while a side detour, had a perfect sense of danger to it and while attacking the villains actually felt like they could do some damage
-there was an overbearing sense of crazy nutso from everyone--Cerberus treating you like the Messiah, the reapers treating you like the One True Threat, and the Council for ignoring the present danger. Added to the sense that you and every member of your team were a vital necessity to your mission.

There are so many reasons why 3 is shit. Characters inexplicably acting completely out of character that was established in previous games, the reapers having absolutely no sense of danger whatsoever despite a single agent taking out an entire god damn arm of the citadel in 1, and others taking out entire research stations while *dead* in the second game. The catalyst ~suddenly existing~ on Mars, despite the fact that people have been researching Mars since Mass Relays were a thing, the catalyst existing at all, terrible implementation of enemies ("the ground troops are totally needed because we're harvesting humans! Despite the fact that they're totally uncontrollable and attack on sight!")

Not to mention that the catalyst absolutely destroys any and every narrative and theme that the game built up to that point. There was literally only one thing ME3 did better, and that was combat.
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>>339617843
No. Everything after 1 was shit anyway, and 1 wasn't even that good.
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>>339618505
>a group of people think a game is terrible
>this must have been the rumblings before Gamergate!!!!
I won't lie, that entire shitstorm was definitely egged on by journalists being absolute faggots about ME3, DMC, and Gone Home. But it's pretty fucking hilarious that they just outright dismiss unhappy consumers as literal terrorists.
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>>339646525
Name me some meaningful choices that aren't
A) Only reflected by a war asset score.
B) Only reflected by flavour text. I.E, plays functionally identically regardless of choice.

To my mind, the only ones that matter are:
1) Killing Wrex
2) If Wrex is dead, your choice to save or destroy Mordin's data actually matters
3) Saving Kirrahe or Thane lets the Salarian Councillor live
4) Making sure Tali lives allows you to use the get out of consequence free card on Rannoch

four meaningful choices in a series that might span 50 hours+ is fucking pathetic.
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>>339647687
That's also not to mention that the second choice only actually matters if the first is taken in a certain way.
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>>339647687
>Making sure Tali lives allows you to use the get out of consequence free card on Rannoch
I agree but you need Legion alive too.
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>>339646298
>Reapers take the form of the species they're made of even though every single one of them looks like Sovereign
When did any Mass Effect game imply that? 'But muh ME2!" Yeah, the same game that shows Sovereign and Harbinger looking the same or that Arrival DLC ending that showed like 5 Reapers with multiple copies of those 5 type? How about the fact that no, not all Reapers look like Sovereign even in 3?

>We just found something to save the galaxy in the Mars Archives even though we've been studying them before we even knew there were other races
So in your mind, the 40 years between ME3 and humans finding the archives on Mars is enough time to have found everything in there? Do you know how much we learned about any ancient human society 40 years after we found evidence of them? Not shit, and that's just humans. It's not like the Catalyst (anti-reaper super weapon) would be hidden in there or anything.

Plus it wasn't even the humans that had found the Crucible plans, it was Liara (top prothean expert in the galaxy) using her Shadow Broker resources to figure out it was in the Mars archives. Notice how you don't complain there was data still left undeciphered in the Mars archives, just that we happen to find the weapon in there. If you're fine with there being undeciphered data, why is it suddenly a plot hole that the prothean expert/shadow broker found more hidden information about the prothean super weapon? Humans aren't exactly the smartest species in the galaxy.

>The Reapers targeted Earth first for no fucking reason instead of taking the Relays towards the Citadel ASAP
The Reapers can't control the relays because ME1. An assault on the invincible Citadel either results in the Catalyst being blown up or a possible Reaper victory with huge casualties.

I don't think you know what a plot hole is.
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>>339647859
fair point anon, that brings it up to 5
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>>339646525
You're delusional if you think they didn't effectively take choice away from renegade players for the entire fucking game
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>>339646509
>we didn't fight a single Krogan
Damn, I never realized
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>>339647940
>Notice how you don't complain there was data still left undeciphered in the Mars archives, just that we happen to find the weapon in there. If you're fine with there being undeciphered data
Nobody is fine with that, it's just buried under so many other issues that it doesn't get commented on.
The mere existence of it, not to mention the claim that multiple races worked on it, is the single biggest plothole in the series

>The Reapers can't control the relays because ME1
Where is this ever stated.

> An assault on the invincible Citadel either results in the Catalyst being blown up or a possible Reaper victory with huge casualties
The Reapers utterly outclassed everything they fought, and had surprise on their side. Had they ignored the batarians and headed straight to the citadel, they could have utterly steamrolled it. There is never any reason given why they didn't do precisely that.
I don't give a fuck about things you infer, because when you directly contradict their explicit strategic doctrine from ME1, you'd better give me a good fucking explanation.

>results in the Catalyst being blown up
Given that we know absolutely fuck all about Catalyst, the only way this could be true for sure is if the citadel itself being destroyed. Which would be somewhat difficult should they launched a surprise attack.
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>>339646778
The prothean crucible was destoryed, in the cycle you play in it's been reconstructed from blueprints. Mass Effect 1 shows not only the Mars Archives surviving the last cycle's purge, but you even collect Prothean data disks and visit working Prothean ruins.

>>339647687
>give me some examples, but you can't use these examples!
Okay I'll play your skewed game, pic related.

>>339646992
>shitting writing about shepard's importances
>a strength of 2, but characters similarly acting out of character in 3 is bad!

>2 was character focused
>a strength of 2

Look if you liked the 1 dimensional characters with family issues in 2, then I can't change your mind. All I can say is that they were written like shit and don't make up for the Reaper plot in the game.

What characters in what situations acted out of character in 3 again? You might be right, but I don't remember any specific examples off the top of my head.

>muh humans should know everything in the archives
No, just no.

>muh husks make no sense because reapers can't control them
Except they can and do in every Mass Effect game.
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>>339648084
I didn't say that.
Now that you have, could you give some examples?
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>>339648810
>three choices from a previous game
Wowee.
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>>339648810
>in the cycle you play in it's been reconstructed from blueprints
I'm so glad that the Reapers don't expressly scout the galaxy for centuries, if not millennia, to ensure absolutely nothing indicating their existence remains.

>Okay I'll play your skewed game, pic related.
Congratulations, you brought up a point I already brought up.
Extra congratulations are in order for not seeing the problem with "choices" that reflect absolutely fuck all but a line of dialogue or an arbitrary score
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>that GX12 thermal pipe tease
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>>339619967
I disliked it and I went in expecting the ending to be terrible. The mediocrity just seeps into every corner of that game.
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>>339648790
>The mere existence of it, not to mention the claim that multiple races worked on it, is the single biggest plothole in the series
Why?

>Where is this ever stated.
They need to control the Citadel to control the relays, they can't control the citadel because of what Shepard does in ME1. It's the entire point of you fighting to the council chamber.

>Had they ignored the batarians and headed straight to the citadel, they could have utterly steamrolled it.
Close the Citadel arms and it's a game of attrition sure (closed Citadel is invincible by Reaper standards), but then the entire galaxy comes in to fuck the Reapers sideways. Even Sovereign needed a geth fleet to distract just the Citadel's defenses, and it eventually got blown up by 1 human fleet. The reapers were dividing and conquering. ME3 tells you and shows you how well this keeps each species worried about their own shit instead of uniting, which is eventually how they win. The reapers, the ultimate collective (think borg) were using the organics' selfishness to their advantage. It blows my mind someone would think to complain about this unless they were already dead set on looking for things to nitpick.

>I don't give a fuck about things you infer, because when you directly contradict their explicit strategic doctrine from ME1, you'd better give me a good fucking explanation.
I love that you wrote this out while ignoring the climax of ME1.

>Given that we know absolutely fuck all about Catalyst, the only way this could be true for sure is if the citadel itself being destroyed.
Yeah, that's my point.

>Which would be somewhat difficult should they launched a surprise attack.
Close the Citadel arms, problem solved. The usual "surprise attack" involves using the Citadel as a relay, otherwise you have to fly over from the nearest one like Sovereign did. Given that the reapers can't just fuck with the Citadel like that again because of ME1's climax, I don't know what your'e suggesting the Reapers do.
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I'll always be mad
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>>339647393

DmC was what did it for me. That one article with the person saying you should go out side, get a fucking job, lose some weight and learn how to dress properly and then ALSO go buy DmC because it's good and you're pathetic if you don't got my blood boiling. I actually started planning my suicide.

Then I discovered tabletop gaming.
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>>339649052
>moving the goal posts
I guess I gave one example so that's all there must be, right?

>>339649126
>I'm so glad that the Reapers don't expressly scout the galaxy for centuries, if not millennia, to ensure absolutely nothing indicating their existence remains.
How is this an issue for 3? Don't you remember Ilos from ME1?

>Extra congratulations are in order for not seeing the problem with "choices" that reflect absolutely fuck all but a line of dialogue or an arbitrary score
Yeah, because who gives a fuck about the resolution to one of the main non-Reaper plot lines in the series? Having the Geth and Quarians make peace? Who cares lol.

You might as well just come out and be up front with what you really mean by a choice "mattering." You mean it either allows or blocks off gameplay content, story be damned.
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>>339646449
>Destroy is the only ending that makes any sense

This. Sure, it would destroy inorganics for whatever stupid space magic reason, but I would imagine that the Geth and EDI would be ok with that. I'm sure the logic of the Geth consensus would conclude that "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few", and EDI would certainly come to a similar conclusion.
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>>339618505
>ME3 to go down in history as the catalyst of fan entitlement and birth of GooberG8.
Well, better than being remembered as a complete fuck-up I suppose
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>>339650737
>allows or blocks of gameplay content
Yes that would be what we mean by story mattering. As it stands, your choices will only give you a slightly higher or slightly lower "lose to the reapers" score. There's not even a point where you can win.
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>>339646660
>They are all the same ending.
No they're not. In destroy, you destroy all synthetics including the Geth and EDI. In control, you, Shepard control the Reapers.
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