BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
>near perfect framerate
what the fuck did he mean by this
>near perfect framerate
this game ran like shit on ps2, really thought it would be silky smooth this time
>>339617649
silky smooth 23.976 fps
Kamitani strikes again
>>339617519
>near-perfect framerate
It runs at 144fps?
Might br because the actual 2d characters animate at 30 fps or less.
2d frame rates are not the same as 3d frame rates.
Best remake since REmake confirmed?
>have to wait another 23 days
Thanks Fatlus, thanks NISA.
Near perfect frame rate is a plus? I can understand if it's not bad enough for them to consider it a detriment, but if it's not perfectly running like it's supposed to then I don't see how that could be a positive
>>339618270
Better than waiting for a whole year for a digital only edition.
And hey, they even added more than just ENG subs this time. Huge improvment compared to other games from them.
>>339618565
Still 30fps more than other games.
>>339618565
Have you played the original Odin Sphere? "Near perfect" is a hell of an improvement, and heaven forbid a game have a framerate hiccup here and there.
Are there massive titties in this too?
>>339617863
>actual 2d characters animate at 30 fps or less
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>339617519
FUCK I AM GOING TO BUY IT
>no negatives
>9.5
>>339618773
Yes, but NISA won't publish Atlus games in the EU anymore. Sega will, and I doubt they will publish smaller titles. Already seeing it with SMT IV Final. Not announced for EU at all.
This is fucking bullshit. Since they stepped their game up a lot in the past years.
>>339618883
How bad was it?
>>339618883
it needs to be a fucking requirement
>>339618971
what caused the fallout?
>>339617582
Sub 20 fps.
>>339619186
SEGA buying Atlus and now wanting more money, basically.
>>339618971
Yeah that sucks, SEGA is very weird with EU. Sometimes they are pretty good, sometimes they just suck.
>>339617582
>he
I thought ign hates eastern games
what happened?
>>339619286
>talking about Sega
>this pops up
Sasuga.
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/sega-looking-hatsune-miku-project-diva-x-europe
>>339619065
Can't give you a hard number but slowdown was pretty common in battle.
>>339619117
Look man, even games with a rock solid framerate can still accidentally an occasional frame skip or drop. In the case of Odin Sphere there are screen filling effects that I can see causing a little stutter. When I played the Japanese demo it ran just fine so calm your tits.
>>339619391
Paid review and fanboyism happened
>>339617863
Okay developer of Hyper Light Drifter, this is exactly how it works.
>>339619391
IGN's cool with Vanillaware. Colin's last hurrah there was shilling the everloving fuck out of Dragon's Crown.
>>339617519
This game is a remaster right? The original game was ok but not 9.5. Fixing the frame rame don't boost the score by that much
>>339619980
Changed the gameplay and item crafting system. It even included an original mode where you can play the PS2 version of the game.
>>339619980
It's a remaster, and it also includes the old game.
>>339619980
> remaster
Full blown remake that includes the original, m8.
>>339619391
They don't. They just give mediocre weebshit the scores they deserve.
>>339619980
They redid the battle system and added new bosses. Try the demo.
>>339620079
>It even included an original mode where you can play the PS2 version of the game.
Then why did they reviewed the same game again?
The game was just patched because the original release was garbage.
I don't think they should consider and charge full price for a game that happens to receive patches and updates. That's kosher.
>>339618917
>>339619805
Nice rebuttal
review score threads should be deleted
>>339619805
>>339618917
he's right though, 2D animations do NOT draw 60 different images per second
>>339617836
>near-perfect framerate
>144fps
dumb pcuck, "near-perfect" means 120fps. 144 is perfect
Sounds fun. How much is it? $60 I'm assuming?
>>339620173
>Try the demo.
I sold my PS4 long ago. garbage PS3 remasters and PS1 remakes don't interest me.
>>339620401
$60 on PS4, I think it's $50 on PS3 and $40 on Vita.
>>339620249
But they didn't? The option is there and I really doubt they reviewed the old version.
>>339617519
FUCK, im to broke to get it for ps3 owwel il buy it second hand some day
>>339620492
So they release a broken game in 2007 and now a patched version in 2016 for the same price
LOL
>>339618910
i dont remember any massive titties in odin sphere
>>339617863
You are retarded.
>>339617519
>PS only
Damn wish it was compatible with PSP in that case...
>>339617519
Is this coming to PC?
>>339620593
>patched
It's pretty much a base game + expansion
>>339620593
> patched
I'm starting to wonder if you're retarded. It's an HD remake with gameplay improvements from Muramasa and Dragon's Crown. It's not a touched up 2007 game, they rebuilt this motherfucker.
![63d66eeb0f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IJIeCdy.jpg "63d66eeb0f[1].jpg")
>>339620663
Queen Odette and Titania.
>>339620365
The characters are puppet animated retard. They do move at 60 fps, only the actual frame-by-frame-animated cores are drawn at a smaller framerate.
>>339620365
They could. Nobody is crazy enough to draw that amount of frames tho.
And in games you can have your animations be 30 or less frames but have the game engine run at 60 fps if you wanted to.
>>339620716
Most likely no
>>339620249
>Then why did they reviewed
Surprisingly, your post only gets more retarded from here.
>>339619406
thats not the point retard
PS4 remasters
Beyond Two Souls
God of War III
Uncharted I,II and III
Odin Shpere
The Movie of Us
Devil May Cry 4
>Sony is giving the middle finger to everyone who bought a PS3 to play sub 30fps games
I have the PS2 version on PS3 and played the PS4 demo.
The PS4 demo is smooth as fuck in comparison. It feels more like Murumasa and the controls are way less clunky
>>339621110
>Odin Sphere "remaster" it's actually good
>DMC4 is multiplat
So who's behind the shitposting this time?
>>339617519
>BUT BAKA GAJINS HATE JAPANESE GAMES!!!!!!
>>339617582
The demo is pretty much locked 60 unless there're 1000 explosions on screen
Better than any vanillaware game up to date
>>339617582
That's the power of the PS4.
Woah.
>>339620365
A games framerate and the amount of animation frames in a sprite are not the same thing.
You can animate a sprite with 12 frames per second, doesn't mean the game can get away with being 12 FPS
>>339621327
Sonyggers are mad when someone dislike their weebo remasters.
>>339620716
>Vanillaware
nah. They're mostly stick to Sony.
God damn Odinsphere is fucking good, i loved that shit back on the ps2 and i fucking love the remaster.
>>339621574
At least post the current version
>>339618971
>SEGA will publish Atlus games in the EU
Good. NISA is fucking incompetent. Some of their shit can brick your consoles.
VELVET IS MY WAIFU
BACK THE FUCK OFF!?
>>339621110
Well considering the massive amount of people who switched over its nice. I haven't played any of those on ps3 except gow.
>>339621919
You don't know what you are missing
All great games.
>>339621919
> tfw I bought my PS3 right after PS4 launched
It's funny to me how aggressively boring PS4's current lineup is.
>>339621695
The current version was downgraded to 900p and has the same frame rate drops. But don't worry, The PS4K is around the corner and you won't have to defend Sony shit anymore
>>339618883
Yes. A fucking shitty 2d brawler shouldnt be having framerate issues on a fucking ps4
>mfw not even odin sphere threads will be save from shitposting
Can I still pre order the ps4 special edition or is it too late
>>339622073
>beyond two souls
>UC outside 2
>LoU
>DMC4
>good
Stop lying shill
>>339622362
Why do you care if it's so shitty?
>>339622136
>people actually believe the PS4.5 will run in 4K resolution
Are you actually delusional?
>>339622407
It's a ps4 game. What did you expect?
WHO /PS4STORYBOOKEDITION/ HERE?
>>339622136
>>339622435
>muh U3, TLOU and DMC4 are bad meme
>>339622362
Considering the PS4's reputation with framerates I'm not surprised.
>>339622569
Me
I'm glad it actually comes out in EU, i thought i had to import and wait even longer or pay too much
>>339622605
Actually Uncharted 3 and The Movie of Us are horrible movie games.
>>339622561
It's a ps2 game anon ¬¬
>>339620716
when you kill yourself
>>339622569
I'm gonna get this on Vita - no PS4, and Vanillaware games are gorgeous on it regardless.
>>339619354
All games writers with female names are male trannys until proven otherwise.
>>339622554
If anything it'll be 1080p to 4k upscale. But it's most likely just 4k BD support
>>339617582
The original is well known for its terrible frame rate, it was the games only real flaw for me
>>339622738
Oh, I didn't realize that the remaster was on ps2. Didn't know they were still releasing games for it.
>>339622756
>Vita
>>339622729
Same as U2 then
>>339618883
>PS2 was by far the weakest console of its generation. With the GC being 50% more powerful, and the Xbox being twice.
>A console released over 12 years later, 2 generations, being the most powerful of it's competitors being 50% stronger then the Xbone, and over twice that of the WiiU
>That said console has problems running a game that was 480i/sub30fps
>Barely managing 1080p with a somewhat stable frame rate
Why is this okay? Why? Is it because it's only okay when Sony does it?
>>339622729
TLOU is an okay game, if not one that runs short on ideas. I'd say it's a bit more gamey than any segment of Uncharted I've seen.
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kf9GfCA.jpg "images[1].jpg")
>>339620371
144 is an ebin meme
>>339622862
>PS4
Why not own both?
If i want i can just continue to play it on my vita and go back to PS4 whenever i want
>>339622862
Yeah, I've had it for over 3 years now. It's pretty good, mang. I'd rather have it than a PS4 currently.
>>339622904
No it's not okay
But as far as the demo goes the game is pretty much locked 60
But Vanillaware was never great when it comes to optimzation
>>339622569
I cancelled mine since Atlus LE tend to go on sale a lot.
>near perfect 60 fps
That's a PLUS for a sidescrolling game are you shitting me?
Do I miss out on something if I get the PS3 version?
>>339622093
PS4 has a huge selection of games and there's constantly things being added
>>339623243
the "60fps" experience
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6koM1Pm.jpg "images[1].jpg")
>>339620716
NEVER EVER
>>339623352
That's all fine and dandy but there's not a lot on it that looks explicitly interesting to me. Looks like it'll shape its shit up here in the next year but I'm cool with waiting until those games are actually out first.
>>339622569
Mein Neiger
>>339617519
how was she not oppressed by this??
Wonder if I should get this for my PSTV now, or wait till I get a PS4 sometime this summer.
Of course I have to wait till after E3 to see if Sony actually goes ahead with this idiotic PS4+ meme thing, so I might just get it on the TV anyway. Either way this game looks great and the demo pretty much sold me on it. I don't think Vanillware has actually made a bad game but OG Odin Sphere was close with how poorly it ran.
>>339623374
lol no, I pirated the PS3 Japanese version and is fucking perfect. You'll be missing the Japanese dub if anything.
God fucking dammit. I played this shit in PS2 and finished it with all characters and you fags are making me want to buy it again now.
>>339623634
Not all game journalists are colossal faggots 100% of the time, just most of them.
Is there save transfer for Vita to PS3/4 and vice versa like in Dragon's Crown?
I may buy two copies if so.
Post Pooka sluts
>>339617519
>artwork done by a 14yo misogynerd babby
i'm not even pirating this cishet white heteronormative garbage
>>339621574
I'm pretty sure that's not the game in the OP
>>339621574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9p2KvpYElQ
:^)
Any difference between PS3 and PS4 versions? I'd rather wait for PS4k before getting one.
>>339623820
you should, the gameplay is quite different
>>339622136
>tfw hue
I'm glad you guys will all experience the PS4K soon.
>>339617519
I have Muramasa Rebirth and Dragon's Crown for Vita and want to buy the Vita version. Hope it's not just a fucked up port.
>>339624503
don't forget the xbonx one two
console kiddies are about to get fucked by 599 console upgrades every 2-3 years.
>>339624730
Supposedly the Vita version runs as well as the PS4 version.
>>339625010
Supposedly great then!
This is my first vanillaware game, what are the chances of a Dragon's Crown ps4 version? Or Muramasa rebirth?
>>339625360
It took Odin Sphere almost 10 years to be remade so it's a crapshoot. Muramasa Rebirth is in and of itself a rerelease and Dragon's Crown is still pretty recent.
>>339625360
Low and lower. They are not old enough to warrant a rerelease and not as flawed as the original OS.
>>339623836
It does have save-transferring between the two(three I guess)
>>339625950
Arigato arigato anon. I'll consider buying a second copy when I have spare cash. Guess I'll buy it first on PS4 because mine doesn't have so many games right now.
>>339626196
That's the same dilemma I'm facing. Especially since my Vita is primarily used as a Vanillaware machine anyway.
>>339624730
Those games are comfy as fuck on the Vita.
>>339626908
Right?
This is why the Vita is my first option.
I seriously can't wait to buy this game for my Vita. Vanillaware never lets me down.
And since it comes at the end of the month I'll probably buy it with my first ever salary.
Good times come ahead anons :')
finally something to play on the ps4. First game I've wanted to play on it since Bloodborne and Digimon.
Damn, you guys just spent my money for me.
Bought Muramasa since I still hadn't, and preordered Odin Sphere and the Yomawari/htol#NiQ bundle, all for Vita.
>>339620842
Lab 0 are, but nobody else that I'm aware of.
>>339622136
KEK that's the 4k thing they put on bluray players and TVs. It's just gonna be a fucking bluray player, isn't it.
>Updated port of a game that wasn't even good to begin with scoring 9.5 because of artstyle alone
If this was on the WiiU they would've deducted 5 points because of reused assets and kiddie graphics.
>game that wasn't even good to begin
>>339622569
ME!
>>339617519
>Never played the original
>mfw this gets super good reviews meaning I'm going to buy the limited edition
>>339627295
Have played dragons crown on the ps3 and in the vita and i find the vita version to be more entertaining. it is also much easier to see what the fuck is going in the screen.
I doubt they've made the combat any good. It's repetitive as fuck. You basically just repeat the game's meager content with all the playable characters.
>>339617519
>9.5
9.5
>9.5
9.5
>9.5
9.5
>9.5
9.5
>9.5
9.5
>9.5
9.5
>9.5
9.5
YOU
CANNOT
MAKE
THIS
SHIT
UP
>>339633378
The demo is on ps4 and vita, the combat is quite good
>>339621713
>not wanting your ps3 to fry while casting terra fire in disgaea
nigga do you even immersion
>>339629047
i know pc fags aren't smart but can they really be this dumb?
>>339633378
Havent you played Muramasa Rebirth? It is funfun fun!
I want to FUCK Velvet
>>339617519
I thought this sucked because it removed all strategy and became nothing but action where you can combo forever?
>Mercedes went FULL CONTRA MOTHERFUCKER
in the original she was the shittiest character and here it is so fun to use her
>>339620716
Probably not. Vanillaware is like Gust, they really haven't shown interest in PC.
Gwen is best girl
>that combo curazy shit
https://youtu.be/fpBtN1RkcpE?t=5m33s
>>339617519
>Literally perfect game
as expected from Vanillaware best title
>>339638671
Why'd you end your opinion with a question mark?
> Buy the PS2 version on PS3
> Never get around to play it
> Now have to buy the remake
I ain't even mad, Vanillaware deserve all of my money desu
>>339640234
Are you me.
>>339640234
it was wat? 10 bucks? I got it too for 5 and never got around to play it
>>339622554
If you think about it AMD just dropped GTX 980 OCd power for 200 bucks.
It's more than enough to play 4k with tuned down settings at 30FPS.
A PS4neo around the 400-500 bucked could do that.
>>339620716
>>339638943
maybe not but theres a chance
http://nichegamer.com/2015/10/23/vanillaware-is-exploring-a-solution-to-bring-their-games-to-pc/
>>339620487
its ps2 retard
>>339640865
Unfortunately that was Nichegamer doing their clickbait bullshit, people looked into it and the source does not exist.
>>339641080
oh ok, never ever then
>>339617519
Can any of you fags tell me how well this game emulates? Does it still get those massive frame drops at certain parts like the ps2 version?
Princess Crown remake when?
>>339641705
I can't imagine very well since PS3 emulation is currently next to non-existent.
>>339629047
Dude, there is no chance in hell the proposed stats for PS4k are capable of actually running games at 4k, its gonna upscale some shit, won't do crap to others, I'm telling you, PS4k is just gonna be PS4 slim with 4k video playback capabilities, that will let devs op in for upscaling during the production if there's enough power left over.
People that think Everything is gonna be 4k are the same retards that were saying PS4 was gonna be 1080/60 native.
>>339641718
This.And also GrimGrimoire remake for Vita when?
>>339641718
>>339642636
One is owned by SEGA and the other by NIS. So basically neverever.
The IGN review made me really hyped for this
>>339622569
Me. It's not hyperbole when I say a fixed version of Odin Sphere could be one of my favorite games period.
>>339642758
>hyped by ign
>not by playing contra Mercedes in the demo
>>339642740
>owned by SEGA
It's not. At least not anymore if it was. It got a PSP port in Japan. As long as Atlus gives Vanillaware the go ahead, they could do a remaster/remake.
>>339643432
You can see a © SEGA & ATLUS on the box, so it's probably both. But then again now SEGA and Atlus are one and the same, so it's not like it matters anymore.
>>339642758
That shouldn't be what got you hyped.
>>339640865
I would love to play Grimgrimoire on PC. RTS with a controller is awful, even though they tried to make it as nonpainful as possible.
If the story wasn't so damned good I would have dropped it.
>>339639430
Oswald is crazy as fuck.
Reminder 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim is also happening.
>>339644837
But when?
>>339644826
the berserk mode glitch is hilarious, basically every giant boss you encounter with him is instant dead meat if you abuse it
>>339644837
>The game follows the themes of surging despair and the demise of everyday life following a destructive catastrophe.
Neat.
>>339639430
>RULES OF NATURE!
>>339645579
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>339647249
What are you even trying to accomplish here? Do you want a (you)?
Anyone know how the PS3 version is? I'm getting it on PS4, but my friend only has a PS3 and is kind of poor and was thinking of getting him this for his birthday, it's up his alley.
>>339617519
I can't decide on Odins sphere or GG revelator
>>339617519
Is the full game really easy?
The demo was brain dead easy.
>>339620249
Log off and go contribute to your third world society you fucking slime
>>339638951
Are the wings part of her or the dress?
>>339649220
From what i've heard, normal is, but hard and higher aren't.
>>339617519
how fucked is the combat?
From what I read they basically gave you Muramasa combat option without giving the enemies a way to deal with it.
Should I just play the PS2 version?
>>339650481
>Should I just play the PS2 version?
The remaster includes the option to play it like the original so get it anyway.
>>339650609
have the PS2 version, but than the remake got announced a couple days later so I just waited for that and didn't play it.
But if this remake turns out to be shit I might as well play it now.
>>339650867
The remake does have the fixed frame rate too as well, though I get it if you're content with the original if you want the original combat.
>>339650867
Check the reviews or download the fucking demo. The gameplay of this "remake" is amazing. Original has so many problems though the story and the art are great.
Is the story of the game still linear or can you choose which story to start out with?
>>339651465
still linear
>>339619670
>Atlus
>dont even withdrawn some cash for dual audio
>withdrawning cash to pay reviewers
>>339653347
but anonOdin Sphere has dual audio
>>339653431
Well shit
>>339650481
The game will supposely have a mode to play the original with only all the graphical enhancements.
>>339652978
Awww
They even let you choose who to play first on the demo
I just preordered.
I feel sorry for people who are going to play this on anything but a vita though
>>339654826
>I feel sorry for people who are going to play this on anything but a vita though
Yeah, fuck people for enjoying the art on a nice sized screen and having a comfortable controller.
>>339654826
Eh, PS4 will be fine. I'd get it on Vita if Vita got a special edition.
>>339654826
>Playing a game whose main appeal is the visuals on a tiny handheld screen when a 1080p TV is an option
Are you retarded
Is this the kind of delusion Vita owners have reached in order to justify having bought the shittiest console of all time
>>339655717
>the shittiest console of all time
You're just as delusional as that retard is.
>>339649820
No, they come out of her hips. Hip wings on girls are at least 45% sexier than shoulder wings, scientific studies have shown.
>>339655717
You either have the biggest hateboner for Sony ever or you are underage, but I will go out on a limb and say it's probably both.
>>339656001
Really?
Always thought they were part of the dress
>>339656147
She is a Valkyrie, and Valkyrie are winged creatures.
>>339618917
Uh yes that is correct
Hi res sprites are extremely labor intensive. You'll be hard pressed to find a 60 fps 2D game where more than the idle animations are actually rendering 60 distinct frames
>>339638517
> Wanting to cuck cornelius
But why?
>>339656476
Spoken as someone who has no idea how the graphics in this game are made.
>>339638951
She's retarded though.
> i've literally went through hell and land of the dead to get my husbando back, but if i give his ring to my father it would mean that i don't love him
Stupid cunt, just give the ring, your edgy fucboi already knows you love him.
Best girl
>>339644837
Is it the same general gameplay as the other vanilla titles?
>>339657024
We don't know. All we have is a teaser with no gameplay.
>you bought a vita
>>339657106
yap i love mine
>>339657106
Yup.
Good visual novels and JRPG's. Also comfy as fuck to play PS1 games on it. It fucking failed, but I like it.
>>339656272
She doesn't have wings when wearing a dress tho
It is a fact, Vanillaware makes the best lookingfoodin the videogame industry
>>339617519
I tried Dragons Crown and it was kinda boring, levels dragged and the hit detection seemed off. Is this worth playing?
>>339657480
I'm a fan of their alcoholic beverages.
>tfw stores around me broke street date by 10 days at earliest, with another at 6 days
>can't walk to said stores, would have to suffer public transportation
>>339656886
Not really. She is releasing herself from the "love" that she yearned from her father, which only happened when she would do things for him, and toward a healthier relationship with her husband who loved her even when she wronged him or didn't do anything for him.
How do I get the achievement that has me go to jail?
>>339657480
They should just make a cooking sim already
>>339658057
>Bought her like a sex doll
>she wronged him
I don't think so buster
>>339617519
-.5 for being too japanese
>>339617519
>it's rated high therefore it's shit
Hipster contrarian teenage neo /v/, everyone.
>>339640559
ashes of singularity is overoptimized for amd meng, let's see the real benchmarks before we judge.
>>339640559
Yeah sure.
If you play 1 specific game.
For every other game, hahahahahaha.
How much Vita memory do I need for the physical game? I only have like 300MB left but this game looks amazing.
>Remake
Oh shit, I can play this game without prior knowledge and experience of its previous games?
>>339664120
Expect, at most up, to 2GB. Because the only two Vanillaware games on the Vita were less than that. Dragon's Crown has more than 1GB, mainly due to the patches, so expect a bit more space used due to that after purchase.
>>339664325
You get the original (mostly untouched outside of the graphical and optimization upgrades) as a separate playable mode. And the remake has its own suitably named mode. You're paying for two copies of the game, essentially.
>>339664325
Yes, if you want to experience how the original played the remake even has a classic mode just for that.
>>339617519
>Vita is $40
>PS4 is $60
I'm tired of this meme.
>>339617519
It seems everyone and their dog has played Odin Sphere except me.
What's the big deal about the game? What's the deal about this one too? It's some kind of remaster of an old game, sure, but is it really worth all the hype?
I'm half suspecting the game isn't that great and it's nostalgia or peer-pressure that's making this seem like a bigger deal that in deserves to be,
h-how is the vita version?
>>339665654
Demo comes out tomorrow.
>>339665725
Thats a good sign. Shitty games dont get demos.
>DT2: 282 hours played
>>339665447
should have bought a vita
>>339665448
Yeah, it's just nostalgia and peer pressure that made the reviewer give it a 9.5.
Retard.
>>339664872
>2GB
fuck that's almost as much as the digital version
>>339665852
I own a Vita TV.
Don't like playing games on it unless I have to.
Great.
So now I get to watch Mercedes die all over again.
I don't think I can do it guys. My heart still hurts as it is.Every other fucking character gets to live and have some hope for the future, Mercedes dies apologizing to her mother because she failed her entire race. Even though none of the shit going down was her fault.
Time to find the rope...
>>339665948
Yeah, thought so. It's like how all professional reviewers will such Undertales dick I guess. You can't give a popular game a bad score even if you think that's what it really deserves huh? Thanks anon.
