Are you guys ready for NINTENDO TO RULE E3 WITH JUST ONE GAME???!!?
>>339616130
inb4 delayed
>>339616130
Not even a fan of Zelda outside of Majora's Mask. As far as I'm concerned, Nintendo isn't at E3 at all.
>rule e3
>not even at e3
>treehouse livestream
>no digital event
>obsolete version of the game
>rule e3
Not gonna play it so I dont care.
>>339616370
>>339616403
>>339616461
>not hyped for the new game of the century and the first legitimate contender to Ocarina of Time, since Majora's Mask.
How does it feel to know that you are and will be an obsolete part of history?
I was excited almost two years ago. Now, not so much.
Pfft
>>339616629
I've been you before. TP and SS taught me not to be.
It might be great but hell if I'm going to be excited about it until we know more. A lot more.
>>339616130
I'll play it if it's a launch title on NX.
>>339616629
>How does it feel to know that you are and will be an obsolete part of history?
But he doesn't work for Nintendo :^)
>>339616130
Yes i am
as much as i'm looking forward to this, the only way it'll rule e3 is if the others all completely bomb or show of absolutely nothing
If it's not announced as a game occurring during the Great Flood I see no hope for it
>>339616629
>the first legitimate contender to Ocarina of Time
That's quite hyperbolic. Also, just because they try really hard on a game and delay it multiple times, that doesn't mean it will actually turn out good. They even said they took inspiration from Skyrim, so expect slow paced boring style gameplay.
>ARE YOU READY FOR NINTENDO TO DESTROY ITS APPEAL FOREVER WITH JUST ONE BUTCHERED GAME?!
>>339617165
>unironically caring about zelda lore, something they stole from fans as a cheap excuse to tell the same story again and again and again
You're the reason everything is terrible
>>339616130
The entirety of Nintendo's E3 consists of showing off what might be the inferior version of a single game.
If the NX version is in anyway superior I'll lose it.
>>339617348
>stole from fans
You must be one of those anti-Timeline guys I keep hearing about.
>>339616403
>obsolete version of the game
>the majority of development was for it and only recently is going to NX
pick one
>>339617474
They are going to make people double dip. I bet my ass the Wii U version is coming out this year.
>>339616629
>Majora's Mask
>legitimate conteder to Ocarina
Kek.
Still I'm cautiosly optimistic a seamless open worldis something Zelda should have had with the gamecube, and I heard Monolith are helping design it.
Aonuma has a habit of saying he'll shake up Zelda bnut it only became stagnant after he stared directing it, mainly because he just slaps a gimmick on top of OoT. The delays and cross WiiU/NX version and the delays worry me a bit.
Zelda hasn't been relevant since Ocarina of Time.
>>339616130
>NINTENDO TO RULE E3
They ain't going to rule shit.
>>339617770
>>339616629
>Being excited for an Aonuma game
You're obsolete. I don't know how you can still have hope for the series after the last 16 years being an endless sea of shit aside from the Oracles, but you'll learn.
Not going to happen. If they had brought NX things would be different most likely. What idiot will buy Zelda for Wii U when it is coming out on a superior system?
>>339617951
Aonuma last directed game was Twilight Princess. He has been the producer since.
Another DaS clone? Really?
I'm only hyped for E3 so I can play the Absolver demo. I've waited for an MMO-fighting game for quite some time.
>>339618092
Aonuma is still in charge of the series, which means he has the final say on what goes in the game.
Why the series was given to someone who doesn't like Zelda and had no game design experience still baffles me.
>>339616130
hahaha
Nintendo should close their doors and do what sega does: develop games for other companies.
Liberals and hipsters can hate this comment I don't care.
>>339617951
That reminds me.
After E3, we should send e-mails to Nintendo asking for Aonuma and Miyamoto to step down to other positions, and point out specific gameplay instances that we believe or know that they instituted and were awful.
>>339617614
>the majority of development was for it and only recently is going to NX
What? It's been primarily in development for the NX since it was first delayed, and that was nearly 2 years ago. You don't think this was always their plan? The Wii U version is a port of it's anything.
>>339618257
>After E3, we should send e-mails to Nintendo asking for Aonuma and Miyamoto to step down to other positions, and point out specific gameplay instances that we believe or know that they instituted and were awful.
From /v/ to U 2.0?
LOL
>>339618190
upvoted
>>339616130
The game is going to have to look like it was developed by Jesus Christ himself if they want it to "rule" E3.
>>339618257
I seriously hope you don't think a Japanese company would care about that.
>>339617204
>inspiration from Skyrim.
They never said that.
According to Aonuma, the keyword this time is “something new.” Ocarina of Time was a huge leap for the Zelda series and since then Aonuma explained, “I think the base of our secret sauce has always been Ocarina of Time. But this time, the change in flavor will be like going from Japanese food to Western style food. Perhaps, players will be surprised.”
“Please look forward to it, because I think we’ll be able to make ‘something new’ like Ocarina of Time was,” Aonuma added.
http://kotaku.com/an-update-on-zelda-wii-u-1764000736
>>339617651
They already said it'll be a simultaneous launch.
If anything, the Wii U version will be delayed to "encourage" people to buy a NX, just like TP for GC was.
>Bought a Wii U in 2013 for Zelda
>Wait for 2017
>maybe if we are lucky the Wii U version will be 720p 60fps
>paid $300 for the garbage Wii U
>>339618160
this
>>339618436
That's why you wait until the games are out before you buy the system.
>>339618335
>>339618402
You don't have to.
You can just keep pointlessly posting your opinions on here, where game companies do the opposite because you're not the target market and the audience from whom they want to move away.
>>339618404
>kotaku
>literally linking to kotaku
>>>tumblr
>>339618436
>720p 60fps
They said they're not targeting 60fps. It'll be 720p for sure though. Wii U is not powerful enough to handle this game when it couldn't even run WW at 1080p without frame drops
>>339618436
You having a laugh? 3D Zelda games don't run in 60fps. Not a single one since OoT unless you count albw. Expect 720p 30fps on Wii u, 1080p 30fps on NX.
>>339617541
There is no timeline you idiot
>>339618436
>60fps
Anon...
Did you at least buy and enjoy other games?
>>339618031
People who don't plan on buying the next system.
I've been a Nintendo fan for a long time but I'm just burnt out on them at this point. Zelda will hopefully be a good enough game to leave a good impression, but either way I'm just done with them. For a while, at least.
>>339618031
The same people who bought TP for Gamecube because they didn't have a Wii and ended up getting the superior version of the game?
>>339618703
Ah, so I was right, then.
>>339616130
I just want to know something about it.
My biggest concern is that Nintendo left it too long to reveal, that it's not salvageable between reveal and release.
I'd preferred they did the FFXV thing where they revealed it early, surveyed criticism, and fixed it according to the fans wants and needs. Zelda is NOTORIOUS for having "what the FUCK were they thinking?" moments, and I bet Zelda U has lots of these as well
>>339617723
>monolith
source on that?
>>339617951
>oracles
are they really that great? where would you rank them?
>>339618816
Whether or not the Wii U version will be superior depends entirely on what the NX's gimmick will be.
>>339616370
>Not even a fan of Zelda outside of Majora's Mask
You're not a fan of Zelda at all then.
>>339616403
>>obsolete version of the game
>He thinks NX isn't a handheld
NX will be a handheld that can handle WIiU-level games, that's why it will be easily ported.
>>339618706
No. MK8 was ok but not worth the 300 USD hardware.
>>339618410
If they want me to buy an NX, they better have it be backwardscompatible with Wii U games. Luckily a good chunk of them can be played with the pro controller so I won't mind not being able to use the gamepad, which I'll keep for comfy eShop games.
>>339618946
>Zelda is NOTORIOUS for having "what the FUCK were they thinking?" moments
Like what?
>>339618946
>revealed it early, surveyed criticism, and fixed it according to the fans wants and needs
>>339619060
Good luck buying overpriced physical copies of meme games.
>>339618404
they're going to toss in some half-baked co-op system like the souls series. that's all it'll be.
>>339619025
They've called NX a home console. It might also be portable or there might be a portable version of the NX (such as a multi-product family) but at the very least the system should be considerably more powerful than the Wii U even if it is primarily a handheld. I don't think you realize how weak the Wii U is because you think 720p/30fps isn't totally 7th gen.
>>339618948
Either better than Link's Awakening or worse than Link's Awakening, depending on who you ask. They're essentially bigger, more ambitious LA's, but you might prefer LA's concise experience.
Great games though. Not going to rank them.
>>339618404
This is just what they say, it doesn't mean it will actually turn out this way. I really hope the game is good but I fear it's going to turn out to be a shitty Skyrim clone.
>>339619181
What do you mean?
I was a Nintendo fan until 2014. I realized what a scheme the Wii U was. At that time they even were so arrogant to state "Don't expect more GBA or DS games on eshop"
Nintendo dying will make the game market better.
>>339619060
Why is backwards compatibility so important? You sound like you already have a Wii U, so what's the point?
>>339619092
Zelda Wind Waker
>Cutscene for the rope
>Slow as fuck sailing
>Triforce hunt
>First dungeon is a stealth segment
Zelda Twilight Princess
>Wolf combat is one button
>Bugs of light or whatever shit
>Slow as fuck horse movement and turning
I could go on.
>>339619060
Yeah because all those games that made you want to buy a WiiU being playable on the NX are definitely going to be all of a sudden attractive in 2017 when the norm is 1080p
Do not fucking tell me it's just going to be called "The Legend of Zelda". DO NOT FUCKING TELL ME.
THIS IS FUCKING LEGEND OF ZELDA YOU GODDAMN NINTENDO FUCKSHITS, STOP CALLING GAMES THE SAME AS OLD GAMES, FUCK YOU
>>339616130
They dangled this game in front of our faces for years, making promises that it was ****definitely**** coming soon, only to delay it for like 2 years and give us a gimped version of a superior console's launch title. Fucking inexcusable.
>>339619278
I hate link's awakening.
I haven't seen nearly enough of the game to make a decision on it, but I can say I'm certainly disappointing in the decision to split another Zelda game between two consoles. And I love Zelda as a franchise, but it's really hard to ignore Nintendo has been struggling to connect with more than one audience lately, along with just poor business practices in general, sloppy really.
>>339619265
>They've called NX a home console
When?
>considerably more powerful than the Wii U even if it is primarily a handheld
The PSVita, the most powerful handheld, is barely more powerful than a PS2. The WiiU is above PS3 level. Modern mobiles that retail for $600+ have barely reached that. The best Nintendo could hope for with a new handheld is a 720p output with WiiU level games. At BEST if they want to be affordable.
>>339619390
Everything past OoT is neo-Zelda though
>>339619473
Don't worry, it'll be called something stupid like "The Legend of Zelda: The Jigsaw of Destiny"
>>339616130
This is falseflagging ? I'm hyped for the next Zelda, but a trailer will be just enough, I don't want to spoil me anything. For the E3, Sony already won by default, there is litteraly anybody left.
>>339619565
>At BEST if they want to be affordable.
Kimishima said they won't sell the system at a loss. So expect it to be more expensive than the Wii U at launch.
>>339619473
Calm your shit. Both Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were called 'The Legend of Zelda' for the longest time.
>>339619740
It's possible that it will be much more affordable than the WiiU if it's lacking one of those gimmick tablet thingsIt'll be a handheld anyway
Someone post the /v/ "leak" please.
I just got a used Wii U Premium with MK8 for $150. How did I do?
>>339618946
>the last part
Since when do Aonuma or Miyamoto do shit like that? Star Fox Zero wasn't even delayed to make the gimmick controls optional - it was delayed to make the graphics less shitty.
>>339619941
Alright I guess. Get DKCTF.
>>339616130
What a lazy shoop.
>>339619941
Nice. Now get Smash for 10 bucks or free, because the DLC characters are fuck-expensive.
>>339619941
Get The Wonderful 101, Bayo 2, and Xenoblade X.
As a lifetime Zelda fan, I honestly except them to just show a 1 minute trailer of shitty QTE events and story cutscenes. Then try and act like it is the best game they ever made. Just like they did with Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. I have lost all faith in Zelda.
>>339616130
Fuck every single 3d Zelda and people that by them. Give us back good 2d Zelda titles fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>339620134
2 out of 3 of these games are bad.
>>339619565
>When?
http://nintendonews.com/news/general/nintendo-nx-home-console/
I don't think this rules out the handheld possibility, but I think what's most likely is that there will be 2 or more versions of the NX, one of which is a portable. If the architecture is highly scalable. the same games could run at differing resolutions similar to how PC games have done it for decades now
Nintendo desperately needs a new home console to replace the Wii U. The 3DS is a less desperate case so the handheld version might come out later.
>>339620005
It's because they honestly just don't think
If they went out of their way to let their fans know what they're doing, then gauging reaction, they could catch it. Nintendo development cycles are so top heavy that they're basically echo chambers, where every idea from Papa Miyamoto or MISTER Aonuma are heralded as word of god.
This is why Splatoon and Mario Maker turned out so well. The young devs had minimal interaction with the out of touch "Gods" of Nintendo.
>>339620329
>http://nintendonews.com/news/general/nintendo-nx-home-console/
>Doesn't actually mention NX as the home console he's referring to
I hate Reggie. Everything he says, you can always tell it was carefully crafted in order to avoid saying anything that isn't meant to be said
>>339620291
You oughta get that shit taste checked out.
>>339619390
>>Slow as fuck horse movement and turning
epic meme
epona in TP controls 200 times better than even witcher 3 you fucking baiter
>>339616130
If it has one gimmick attached to it, or uses one buzzword I'm dropping it. I'm tired of Zelda being sold on wonky faggot gimmicks, casualization, and marketing buzzwords.
Just give me a fucking solid Zelda adventure, some cool items with unique uses, lots of secrets to discover, cool dungeons, good bosses and we're square.
>>339620206
>QTE shit
I'll drop it for that too. So sick of this shit.
>>339617614
It has been delayed for three years
It's pretty obvious that NX will be the best version
>>339620535
Are you seriously expecting answers from someone who has absolutely nothing to do with development?
Are you mad at me too for not giving away info I don't know?
>>339620670
Yes. A tutorial wouldn't have hurt though, especially regarding the turning thing. You spend like an hour learning how to fish and climb vines after all.
>One game
I want to say "They can't be this stupid" but I know that these days they absolutely can. It's okay, I've already committed myself to feeling disappointment this year. What could possibly go wrong?
>>339620812
Agreed, they should go the PS4 route and limit themselves to no game.
>>339620812
What publishers release more than one game for play at E3?
>>339620535
Nintendo has consolidated their handheld and home game development branches under a single roof. Whatever the NX is, is speculation at best, but what's clear is that they won't be making 2 libraries of games anymore. There will won't be handheld and home games. There will only be Nintendo games.
This makes sense if you consider how thinly spread their two libraries have been making them in recent years when 3rd parties have all but abandoned them, a trend that is not likely to end. If 3DS and Wii U games had been compatible on both systems, both systems would have probably sold a lot better because they'd have had much more respectable libraries. And the only thing they'd lose is double dipping, something they're being highly criticized for as being extremely anti-consumer
>consoles
>>339616130
Reminder that the Wii U's total life cycle will be less than 4.5 years, and thanks to all of the droughts, it only got 2 years of actual support.
>>339620894
Oh come on Nintencuck, Sony will obliterate this e3
Have fun with your shitty delayed game.
It's going to be extremely difficult to top Skyward Sword if they go back to regular controls.
One button attacks means bosses are back to having glowing weakpoints instead of providing an obstacle which actually requires skill and dexterity.
>>339621145
2013-2014 and 2014-2015 were the only real years of support
It's been the worst console in recent memory
>>339616629
Listen kid, many of us here were like you sometime in our lives. For me it was in 2005-2010, where I thought zelda cannot be topped by anything else. Hype was off the scale when a new game was coming out. Then TP kinda left me with the impression that it wasn't worth all the hype. Don't get me wrong, I really like it, but it was not as terribly good as expected. Then SS came and totally destroyed any expectation, delivering the worst zelda experience i ever played (and i've played them all).
Let's not even consider the ds titles and tri force shit.
I cannot be optimistic anymore, after all the promises that turned out to be lies.
>>339621151
I don't have a WiiU. Have fun with your PS3 games.
>>339620812
I'll name a bunch actually.
>Short game with "OPEN WORLD" for an excuse as to the length
>WiiU pro not supported at all to try to get consumers into the mindset of liking gimmicks again because Nintendo is desperate to be a special fart of sunshine not realizing gimmicks/motion controls are COMPLETELY DEAD TO THEIR CORE FANBASE
>incorporates FORCED gamepad aiming in places/forced gamepad for combat
>Social justice agenda shit forced into the NA release to appeal to the new generation of faggots
>only 3-4 dungeons
>same tired items we've used a million times
>Casualized into the ground for retarded modern Zelda fans
>DLC shoehorned in/amiibos shoehorned in to make people feel justified for wasting money on paywall toys
>forgettable main villain that turns out to be ganon/demise in the end because HEY WHY THE FUCK NOT!
>mfw we'll never see a awesome world again with tons of secrets that matter to the main game and arent just FUCKING RUPEE/BOMB/ARROW CHESTS
>mfw we'll never have magical link again
>mfw Zelda will never have any semblance of challenge again because Aonuma is a faggot that needs to be shot in the head
>mfw marketers and fanboys will try and damage control my post
>mfw skyward swords vocal minority is trying to SLIDE the game into acceptance despite it being the worst thing to happen to the series in ages.
>>339620774
>Are you seriously expecting answers from someone who has absolutely nothing to do with development?
He's a spokesperson for the English speaking side of the company, and he's not a very good one
>Are you mad at me too for not giving away info I don't know?
I don't know who you are?
>>339621047
Good. This makes me extremely happy, because at the moment with Nintendo's output, you find something like this every year
>2 good handheld games
>2 good console games
>6 meh handheld games
>3 meh console games
>4 disgustingly bad handheld games (obviously rushed)
>3 disgustingly bad console games (obviously rushed)
Why not just combine all these for one platform, polish the meh games, and not bother releasing the filler titles.
>>339621298
>tri force shit.
Triforce Heroes was really fun, though, and I'm probably older than you are. Did you try the online multiplayer? Getting a good group going was a crapshoot but once you did it was incredible
>>339621269
Do you remember how, at the beginning of 2014, they promised that they would have strong support for Wii U in the first half of the year, and we only got Mario Kart 8 at the very end of May? Literally the last day in the first half of the year so they don't technically break their promise.
Then they made the exact same promise at the start of 2015, and the only games we got were Kirby Rainbow Curse (which was trash) in March and then Splatoon in May.
Zelda games are overrated as fuck, who cares about baby's first adventure game?
>>339616130
When was this game first announced? Like 2014? Holy fuck it's been a while.
>>339616403
>no digital event
what the fuck
so will it only be treehouse stream?
You know, it's sad that the only game that drones are looking forward to is a shitty meme game for gamergurls, it has been in development hell and you idiots are honestly expecting it to be good?
L M A O
>>339620894
>b-b-but Sony!!!
Every damn time.
>>339621512
>Splatoon in May.
At the very end of May, no less
I don't think they care about breaking promises anymore though
>>339617474
>If the NX version is in anyway superior I'll lose it.
lmao this nigga
>>339621627
Nope
No digital event, only the cucks from treehouse will be playing that shit game meanwhile they spout memes.
>>339621512
Nope, but I remember Miyamoto's only job was to make the WiiU gamepad desirable, and he failed hilariously.
Watch this video. Miyamoto is a fucking idiot, and development teams that weren't even out there to make good use of the gamepad did it better than Miyamoto did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onScwrHP2g0
>>339621627
Yes, welcome to neo-nintendo
>>339621298
So ONE bad main game after several good ones is enough to convince you that a series has gone to shit? I'm not telling you to get hyped for the new game, but that seems kind of silly.
They should just move it to an NX launch title, the WiiU already had a Zelda. And it was really good.
>>339616130
I was hyped in 2014 and mildly interested in 2015. Now I have absolutely no interest in the game and that's probably because Nintendo handled it so poorly.
By the time it finally comes out I'll probably be too invested in some other game to give a shit.
>>339621837
>Not getting hyped for Zelda
How to spot the underage, basically.
It's fucking Zelda. Even if it's not perfect it's going to be hype.
>>339621629
I wonder how many of those she's even beaten. I doubt any. She's at the very beginning of WW for fuck's sake. She probably just wanders around the beginning area cutting grass for 3 hours and then writes a blog entry about how wonderful the Zelda series is and how she owns all the games.
I hate everyone.
What did they mean by this?
>>339621987
Never met a casual who was able to put down Zelda.
>>339621967
You know, i used to love Zelda a lot, really, got magazines, figurines, etc
Hell, i even joined a Zelda Club in highschool
But i am not anymore, the quality of the franchise has declined a lot, i am still looking forward for it but i am not hyped by any means.
>>339621764
Miyamoto is a twat. His end results for making the WiiU gamepad a must have component resulted in Star Fox Zero and Guard. Terrible. Compare this to the gamepad being used well by other teams releases between 2014 and now
>Xenoblade X
Great use of the gamepad for map/management/streamlining
>Splatoon
Great use of the gamepad for map/aiming/attacks
>Mario Maker
Great use of the gamepad in its core game mechanic
>Zelda remakes
Great use of the gamepad for management/map/aiming
>Bayonetta 2
Great use of the gamepad in implementing a game mode that even disabled people can use
Fuck that guy. He seen the gamepad as something that must be the be all end all when it comes to the foundation of the game, instead of implementing the gamepad in to the game.
>>339622105
Fi finally passed on from running out of batteries.
>>339622186
Maybe you `just need to revisit some fond memories to hype yourself up? Should work unless you're dead inside.
>>339622259
>Maybe you `just need to revisit some fond memories to hype yourself up?
I actually am playing Ocarina and Majora's Mask again, love the games but I know that Nintendo will never create another Zelda as good as them.
>>339622252
Pretty sure Shiggy isn't the be-all end-all decision-maker over at Nintendo and I'm almost certain he didn't come up with the pad.
>>339616130
Is Nintendo finally going down the slopes?
>No E3 event
>Only 1(UNO) game this E3
>No games to look forward too this year
>Mobile garbage
It's time to start packing. Nintendo is finally done.
>>339621967
I remember similiar words when talking about MGSV, something about the best game ever made.
Coincidentally that game also went open world.
>>339622252
Wonder if Miyamoto was the reason the DS Zeldas had the horrible touchscreen only controls.
>>339622417
He was literally named as in charge of that aspect of development
Is Miyamoto involved with the development of the NX? What has the current president/head of Nintendo said about the NX? What is the design philosophy of the system?
>>339622365
Why not? If they keep half the promises they've made with the new one it should blow everything else out of the water.
>>339622476
That's a completely different franchise though. Are you saying because MGXV was underwhelming all other franchises must also be?
>>339622259
Nothing much you can do with the actual quality of a series you once loved has gotten noticeably worse over the years.
Playing older games in the series will just remind you of how bad things have gotten and end up depressing you even more.
>>339621838
Fuck me. I will buy an NX solely for a HW2.
>>339622661
I hope not
The design philosophy is seemingly combining architectures so they can essentially double their output in a single system without either suffering, so porting is easier. Iwata mentioned it at one of their financial briefing meetings
>>339622670
No I'm saying I'm not hyped for something based on name alone, especially when the track record of those games is garbage
The games might've been good 10 years ago, but a lot can change in 10 years
blow your hype up your ass
>>339622640
It was up to him to make the best of it, forcing a gimmick was a must after the success of the Wii. I'm just glad the pad functions as a normal controller, unlike the Wiimote.
>>339622697
If you consider absolutely nothing in TP or SS to be superior to OOT then I do believe you are dead inside.
Friendly reminder that the game might not even be released in March 2017 along with NX
It only has a 2017 release date
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/30/zelda-wii-u-nintendo-press-site-changed-date-from-march-2017-to-simply-2017/
>>339622430
I figured they were just saving all their games for NX, but then NX was delayed into 2017 and I really just have to wonder what the fuck they're even doing anymore
>>339622775
>yfw HW2 includes an overworld like DQH2
I wouldn't even care for an online world. Just make it more and more like a Zelda but with better combat.
>>339622854
More like universal praise. Are you this guy >>339620291
>>339622909
It's going to be a NX launch title. The Wii U version will probably be delayed to get people to buy NXs.
>>339616130
>tfw want a 3DS but worried new bundles could potentially be announced during E3
Fuck mane.
>>339616130
NX only.
I lost interest in Nintendo titles these days, they're not really doing anything new or exciting.
>>339623009
not really but I'm not gonna waste my time with either drones or marketers so eat a dick
>>339623049
I doubt anyone's buying a WiiU with the NX right around the corner, unless it's for piracy.
>>339623107
If you waited this long for the only platform worth a damn then you're not getting a 3DS.
>>339616370
why would they be after the stupid baby fit you threw last year about what they weren't doing
>>339623107
Just buy and softmod a 2DS. There's no point in waiting, and Nintendo isn't going to announce anything other than release dates for games.
I just want DQ release dates and Pokemon S&M info.
>>339619380
So you don't have to hook up every system you have at once. It's convenient having a system that plays older gen games.
No one only owns a Wii U.
>>339623327
What's the new DQ about?
>>339621413
Willing to bet at least half of these are correct predictions.
I'm excited to see what kind of things they do to change up the gameplay this time. Skyward Sword added some really good improvements like the stamina meter and being able to climb up stuff a lot faster.
Maybe Zelda U will bring back manual jumping/platforming like in Link's Awakening? The fact that Link jumps off his horse to shoot arrows kinda hints at this. That'd be amazing if they added the Roc's Feather or Roc's Cape to a 3D game for the first time.
>>339623323
Let's be honest, Anon-san, that livestream was fucking trash. And people actually had expectations after 2014.
>>339623437
After 30 years we finally get proper item management. Fuck that menu and fuck sticking shit on the C-buttons, use any item on the fly.
>>339616629
>3 shitty zelda console games in a row
>4 shitty zelda handheld games in a row
>DON'T WORRY GUYS, THIS WILL BE DIFFERENT REMEMBER THOSE GOOD ONES A LONG TIME AGO?
Tell me how zelda fans aren't the same as sonic fans?
>>339621413
I pray every now and then for something good to come out of Nintendo. But only end up disappointed
>>339623414
The next DQ coming to the West is the DQ7 remake, and the one after that is DQ8 which feature an ending where you marry best girl Jessica instead of horse whore.
>>339623201
>make blanket statements and call everything shit
>calls others drones
Let me guess, it's all Aonumas fault too despite the fact that he personally designed much of OoTs content himself.
>>339616130
Nintendo needs to make a come back. 2017 will be the year of Nintendo calling it. Let them get their new console out. Long as we get good first party shit it'll be fine.
Within the year it will be worth it to own a ps4. It will catch up in the games department.
Xbone I don't really know about.
>>339623585
All of those games are quite good and received universal praise. Name a better game in the genre so that I may laugh at you.
>>339623731
I thought the 3DS was their comeback? After the PSP took a slice of the market they absolutely fucking buried the Vita.
>>339623613
You and me both homie. I want to give up but deep in me something wants to believe they can NOT be shit again, somewhere in me I know they're holding back to appease shareholders/investors with shit games that make money from casuals.
>>339623731
PS4 doesn't look like it will be worth it until it hits that magic $99 price point. Most of its worthwhile games are and continue to be multiplats.
I'll just leave this here.
>>339621413
>here's what I think will happen
>lists a bunch of things Aonuma has never done
>>339623839
That's a fair thong to say about the 3ds. Its library at this point is full of good stuff. I guess I just really don't want another handheld, I want something dedicated.
>>339623972
and this
>>339623839
PSP took a slice of the DS market in the same way the Wii U took a slice of the PS4's. It sold better later on when people bought it for emulation/piracy but software sales were always abysmal. People bought the unit but not the games.
Posting this shit here.
>>339623839
>I thought the 3DS was their comeback? After the PSP took a slice of the market they absolutely fucking buried the Vita.
This is why consolewars are so short sighted. You're looking at things only in terms of the competition.
PSP might have had a respectable slice, but it was in a huge market. The handheld market shrunk by 80% generation-over-generation and most of it was lost by Nintendo, not by Sony.
3DS may be beating the Vita, but this is like saying 3DS is beating the Ouya. Who cares? The 3DS is still 100m units behind the DS and it will never, ever catch up. It won't even catch up to the GBA at this rate, making it Nintendo's worst selling handheld ever.
3DS is a comeback? More like a swansong.
>>339618404
they are obviously influenced by the current trend of open-world RPGs in the West - that is super-appearant
>>339624009
Don't burst his bubble, let him rant about his boogeyman.
>>339623727
Didn't he just just do some of the dungeon stuff. I think the Water Temple was mostly him, but aside from that I don't know much.
>>339623916
That's why I'm hoping the PS4Neo is real. It'll make the PS4's price drop at a faster rate. If the PS4 NEO and PSVR do as well as they deserve to do, which is to say pretty fucking badly, then Sony would be force to drop the prices on them. Hopefully that'll lead to another price drop on the PS4.
I'm disappointed with this gen as a whole, so I'm glad with paying as little as possible for any console.
>>339624084
It was encroaching. I loved my PSP very much, but Nintendo integrated (read: stole) everything that made it good into the 3DS.
>>339624150
You're being even more shortsighted. The fact that the 3DS managed to maintain such a strong position after 99% of its userbase regressed to iOS is nothing short of a miracle.
>>339624171
>>339624009
>I'm not going to provide rebuttal or arguments proving otherwise but you're wrong becaus Aonuma is my personal casual god
>hurr durr boogeyman!
Im sensing serious samefag marketer apologisim. Bring on the deflections, lets go. Cmon damage control. Dance for me shill puppets.
>>339624152
People keep screaming at Nintendo to modernize and do stuff like that so I don't know what you expect. To thrive in today's market is to pander to fads, play it safe and appeal to the mass-audience. Nintendo has done their own thing to varying success in the past but they keep getting told they're out of touch. This is what being in touch is, doing what all the other AAA publishers do.
>>339624127
wat is dis?
>>339616130
they gonna show some pretty pre-rendered stuff then delay it to 2018 for the NXU
>>339624228
He designed multiple dungeons, enemies and items. When he was actually directly working on the games they were great but now that he's a figurehead they're bad and it's somehow still his fault? I just don't get it.
>>339619473
it will
>>339623972
kek, saved
>entire story is about defeating the evil jew
>>339624390
It still won't have games I can't play on something I already own though so until that happens there's no point in getting one. if it ever happens.
>>339616130
Calling it now, the game will look like embarrassing trash and will once again be the final straw for many ex-Nintendo fans.
>>339624505
So what if their choice is to modernize or die? Because that's capitalism. And "doing it for the uniqueness/art" doesn't hold up.
You didn't think Mario and Zelda was going to be around forever, right?
>>339616629
>the first legitimate contender to Ocarina of Time
What even makes you think that? practically nothing has been shown from this game
>>339624480
Aonuma made tons of the content himself in OoT, you know, that game you're holding up so very, very high on your pedestal?
>>339624390
>I'm disappointed with this gen as a whole
same. only game I've played so far is bayo 2.
everything else keeps getting delayed/canceled.
only thing I've played this year is an indie game off of steam.
>>339624429
>You're being even more shortsighted. The fact that the 3DS managed to maintain such a strong position after 99% of its userbase regressed to iOS is nothing short of a miracle.
It's something that will only get worse over time, unless Nintendo can recapture the attention of casuals.
Nintendo's "core" fans are aging and dying off (ie losing interest), and they're not replenishing. Kids these days don't want Mario, they want CoD, Angry Birds or Minecraft. If Nintendo can only sell to its established fans without gaining new ones, it is certainly doomed. I know there's a lot of Nintendo doomcrying on this board, so realize I don't say this lightly
Given this, the NX can only be another gimmicky device that they hope to recapture DS/Wii levels of new blood, and that will only further alienate the core fans who just want to play regular Nintendo games without forced and contrived ways of playing that just make things more awkward instead of interesting.
10 years from now if Nintendo isn't the next Apple, they won't exist. We lose either way. How's that for shortsighted?
>>339624559
If this happens the game is literally dead, even more than it already is. They kept postponing it for too long already at this point everyone just wants it to be released so we can move on.
>>339624883
Or they could just keep doing what they're doing and probably still be just fine. The Wii U didn't really hurt them at all financially even though it sold poorly.
Did none of you fuckers actually play Skyward Sword? Are you all just confident that nintendo will actually listen to criticism for once and end the gimmicks, and the filler fetch quests, and the constant handholding?
you think you zelda fans have it bad? try being a metroid fan.
>>339625364
>Are you all just confident that nintendo will actually listen to criticism for once and end the gimmicks
Nintendo never listens to criticism. As far as Nintendo is concerned, the ones bitching on internet forums were not the intended audience.
Everyone in this thread is not a "Nintendo fan" by their own standards.
>>339625017
You're forgetting that there is a very very wide gap between the hardcore and casuals. The people for who angry birds is not satisfactory and dorfs is too shit there will always be Nintendo.Besides if you want to play games with someone who's in the same room you've got no other choice anyway
>>339625017
>Kids these days don't want Mario, they want CoD
you sound like a middle aged marketer. kids just want what's fun.
>>339625364
Handholding is annoying but it didn't magically make the rest of the game not good.
This is what you need to do to sell games today. You think the handholding is bad in Zelda? Look at literally any recent AAA blockbuster, they're just bad or worse. This is what happens when you get more in touch with people buying games, you need to dumb them down or they won't sell. People don't want complex games that don't hold your hand anymore, they want giant "GO HERE, DO THIS" markers every 5 steps so they can feel that rush of instant gratification. This is a systemic problem with the industry as a whole.
>>339625652
Kids want what's cool. Kids want to be perceived as grown ups. Kids want to sit at the big boy table. The number one thing on every child's Christmas list is an iPhone, not for the games, but so that they can act like an adult.
My age and occupation are completely irrelevant. Plenty of Nintendo games are fun and yet where are all the kids begging their parents for Wii Us and 3DSs? It's a market that gets smaller by the day. People won't even remember what Nintendo is after a while. This is how brand irrelevancy happens.
>>339616629
Niggah OoT and MM revolutionized the gaming industry with their concepts.
They were also cutting edge in terms of graphics and tech.
Zelda U will deliver neither. At most it will be a decent open world game with a clever and actually enjoyable gimmick thrown in.
The franchise hasn't truly been relevant since TP, it's just been a downward spiral ever since.
>>339622865
>It was up to him to make the best of it
He didn't even do close to making the best of it
>>339625674
how do you propose they fix it?
>>339626050
Are you kidding? The pad is still a functional controller, it could so easily have been a shitty iPad.
>>339626096
By destroying the internet so all the "hardcore" gamers don't just look up how to progress.
>>339626214
>Are you kidding? The pad is still a functional controller, it could so easily have been a shitty iPad.
His job was "make the best of the gamepad" and his biggest contribution was Pikmin 3 (had to be patched to use the gamepad properly) and StarFox Zero (critically panned for overuse of the gamepad)
>>339625674
>You think the handholding is bad in Zelda? Look at literally any recent AAA blockbuster, they're just bad or worse
Can you name some examples? An NPC would tell you something and as soon as they were done talking Fi would immediately pop out and say the exact same thing AGAIN. Even in the final dungeon, Fi would pop out and tell you basic maneuvers you would have had to use dozens of times to get to that point. And let's not forget repeating item descriptions every single time you reset the game
>>339625989
That sounds more like a middle school and up mentality to me.
>>339625989
you forgot to throw around the word "demographic" a few times.
>>339626358
Meanwhile Fi doesn't tell you jack shit on how to beat any of Ghirahim's forms or the final boss.
See any big glowy weak points on this guy? That's because there aren't any.
>>339626096
Hand holding is fine as long as it is handled well and able to be turned off/easily ignored. I don't mind quest arrows or some quick dialogue of characters telling you what to do because it doesn't break the flow of the game. It's fucking absurd that Skyward Sword CONSTANTLY stops you and forces you to watch some obvious shit.
>>339626506
>I literally don't have an argument
>>339626519
Because there's not that much to figure out, other than holding your sword to bait his tracking hand.
He does plenty of fucking hand holding himself in the final battle "OH, I JUST LOVE THESE RAISED PLATFORMS BECAUSE THEY ALLOW ME TO KNOCK MY OPPONENTS TO THE LOWER LEVEL AND THEM PLUNGE THEM FROM ABOVE BY PRESSING THE A BUTTON ON THE NINTENDO WII REMOTE CONTROLLER FOR THE WII ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!"
>4 years development
>Team that did ALBW
Kinda hyped. Although
>No footage
>No details
Kinda...worried
>>339625989
They can't even aim for casuals anymore though.
That's why they're so quick to jump on anime, movies and shows now - along with the mobile game venue and upcoming Nintendo theme park section for universal, it's becing their last major attempt at advertising - to draw on children and ultra-casuals again. And it'll probably work. But when it does, Nintendo will be completely transformed; all remaining remnants of the company that we used to respect and love will be gone completely.
>>339626752
kys
>>339626813
Why?
>>339626813
He's right this. When a major company or studio keeps a game secret for that long, it's usually a sign that the said developers aren't confident about it. IE - it's utter dog shit.
>>339626695
That's not even a tenth of the shit you have to figure out for yourself in that fight. But I can see you're being unreasonable so yeah, Ghirahim is the simplest and easiest Zelda boss ever made, not at all like RAAM and Sovereign which took smarts and skill.
>>339626989
I kind of want to hold out hope that the game is great, and it's been held secret because of NX bullshit.
Since Zelda hasn't been great since the n64 though, it's probably not that though
Female Link is happening
Multiple Sources confirm
I hope your body is ready
>>339621413
>>mfw skyward swords vocal minority is trying to SLIDE the game into acceptance despite it being the worst thing to happen to the series in ages.
100x this
I'm fucking sick of those retarded apologists, the only good thing about that game was the interesting artstyle and SOME combat instances, the rest was a fucking disgrace and dumbed down even basic OOT formulas like day and night system being gone for no reason
>>339627226
Like you were told yesterday, NO, no where has said that, you couldn't provide sources yesterday while we could provide the sources that state it will still be a guy so fuck off back to your moms vag and stop existing.
>people are excited for more Aonuma Zelda
>>339623972
>link is arian
OH SHIT
>>339626214
how about showing by example more instead? super metroid did this to great effect.
>>339627470
Pretty sure if you have it on Hero mode, it doesnt do this
>>339627314
how was it any worse than wind waker? or spirit tracks? or ALBW? it's all dumbed down casualized kiddie shit. you simply outgrew the series. at one point it had a lot of potential, but nintendo went another way with it for whatever reason, so there you go.
>>339627314
So you admit to SS being the best Zelda in some regards yet still shit on it?
I don't know why you'd agree with a guy who says SS is the easiest Zelda when it's the hardest Zelda combat-wise since the NES days. And I expect some fucking examples if you're going to memearrow that quote.
>>339627748
>SS
>hardest combat
>literally simon says "hurr slash in the direction they're not blocking"
This must be bait.
>>339627575
Except those thousands of players who couldn't get out of the walljumping pit because walljumping was awkward and needed a proper tutorial?
>>339627470
>>339627704
I'm sure that one minor instance of finding a small key is indicative of the whole dungeon, game and franchise as a whole.
>>339627889
Nice example. Ignoring you.
>>339627105
There's really not that much to figure out, is there? The only thing that really threw me off was the hand thing I just described where his hand glows red and blocks your sword if you don't angle it right. Besides that it's pretty easy to just swing your way through it, or block those lined up projectiles. I don't even think he does the red hand blocking move in the final fight, I remember being able to just wildly flail through the final fight easily, and youtube videos confirm my memory.
>>339627748
>when it's the hardest Zelda combat-wise since the NES days.
This is bait.
>>339627470
I'm not clear on what to do.
why does the camera zoom in on those lights?
>>339627928
>SS combat is hard because I say so
lmao ok bro. Not our fault you're a fucking retard at motion controls.
>>339627734
I didn't outgrow shit you faggot, I still play OOT and MM once a year during christmas and still discover new shit, wind waker was miles ahead of SS and I fucking hate that game's artstyle, especially after the HD remake the ruined the cellshaded graphics and puts everything into a weird puppet like state with that fucking gradient lighting.
>>339627748
>So you admit to SS being the best Zelda in some regards
NO you fucking shitlord I said it has an interesting artstyle and some cool battles (like the golden multi armed faggot boss) but aside from those it's a an even more watered down wind waker to me, wind waker at least fooled me into thinking I was scouring a world and the post apocalyptic idea was fantastic (even though they did almost jack shit with it), SS is just a conveniet plot device used to ruin all "future" games with that bullshit about reincarnating evil and shit, the Imprisoned fights are nothing short of insulting too.
>>339626761
>They can't even aim for casuals anymore though.
Of course they can. You can always market towards people who wouldn't have ordinarily cared about your product. Get them to care and suddenly you have a new market.
Who Nintendo can't market towards anymore are GAMERS. Gamers have by and large expressed not a disinterest towards Nintendo products, but an outright revulsion.
This is why the company "we used to respect and love" is already gone. They haven't been targeting gamers for the last 2 generations. It's already over.
>>339621413
Short game with an open world should be acceptable though. When retards whine about game length, we get nothing but filler shit, like the triforce hunt, or the CONSTANT barrage of pointless recycled material Skyward Sword threw at you. As long as there is plenty of optional content throughout the open world that you CAN CHOOSE to engage in, that's perfect for everyone.
>>339627945
He can't, the Master Sword is Evil's Bane.
>>339628006
>>339628030
>>339627889
By being unable to produce a Zelda game harder than SS since the NES days you are only proving me right.
>>339616130
They've waited so long to push out a new console Zelda, that I suspect all their fans have likely went over to Dark Souls or the Elderscroll games through different systems / PC.
I'm expecting a Star Fox Zero experience from this new game, where Nintendo feels they've made one of the greatest games of all time, but it will be seen as mediocore at best by reviewers and gamers.
Seriously, what can it do that other games haven't done through mods or base design since they've started hyping this game?
>>339624505
the difference is those games actually handle it somewhat elegantly. games like uncharted are probably more hand-holdy than any zelda, yet it feels much less condescending because of how naturalistic it is. you'll hear nathan mutter to himself something like "hmm. maybe I need to try [X] thing here. or.... maybe THIS."
whereas in zelda you literally have an annoying character pop up and say "HEY ASSHOLE TRY THIS! OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA BE HERE ALL DAY!"
>>339628170
>I never played LA
>I never played the Oracles
And now I wait while you memearrow >GB Zeldas >hard
>>339620134
Those games are all garbage.
>>339620774
If you needed a tutorial on how to ride Epona you should just quit video games.
>>339620291
>2 out of 3 of these games are bad.
You mean 3 out of those 3 are bad.
>>339627928
there will always be people who can't finish a game. no matter how easy you make it. it's unavoidable, unless you just grab them and push them across the finish line. there's a puzzle in alice madness returns that literally just skips past a it if you fail enough times. doesn;t even ask if you'd like to skip it. feels sort of hollow. nintendo needs to stop trying to pander to people who don't care about video games.
>>339627470
Except the 'puzzle' doesn't progress you further in the dungeon but creates a warp back to the entrance.
The real puzzle in that first room is a cryptic sign that indicates you have to jump down the black pit in the middle. The zooming actually serves more as a red herring and makes the 'real' path harder to find.
I said this before but you just keep posting the damn thing acting like you have a valid point you fucking fag
>>339628613
It's the same fags who enjoyed galaxy because it one long tutorial
>>339622186
No.
Zelda has been consistent in every release. Whether you like it or not is dependent solely on how far removed it is from the first few you ever played. It's like Pokemon. You hate it after the new shit is released and say it should go back to its roots, but it has always been the same, with a couple exceptions (Zelda 2, spin off Pokemon).
