They literally cannot even compete.
DELETE THIS
<$500???
I THOUGHT IT WAS 199/229
FUUUUCK
>Being a fanboy and shill of a graphics card
Legitimately even more stupid than being a fanboy of a video game company.
>>339617514
it says 2xrx480
2x200=400 which is <$500
checks out
>1 game = ever other game
quality amd
>>339617514
It's says 2x Radeon 480
>>339617656
Ohh okay misread it
>>339615767
Too bad you'll need a 1000w power supply for two 480's when you could get by with a 600w for the 1080.
The price evens out eventually.
>$500 for a part for a platform that has no exclusives
>>339615767
It's a great day for AMD fans.
Does anyone remember house fires? It's an old NVIDIA joke
not an nvidiot, but did you watch the conference? AMD was running the game obviously at low graphics, while the GTX 1080 was running it on high. This really doesn't prove anything and we'll have to wait for actual benchmarks as usual.
>Its over, Nvidia is finished
One could only hope.
Unfortunately, some stupid new PhysX or other scamware game will soon come out and produce 60 FPS on the GTX 300 and less than 20 FPS on any AMD card, and all the nvidia redditards will crawl out of their holes to meme all over how "shit" AMD is.
1. Ashes of the Singularity specifically always ran significantly better on AMD. There is no guarantee this performance gap will carry over to other games, especially not DX11 ones.
2. >Crossfire
3. In the demo they showed the 1080 was clearly running the game on different graphical settings
4. At the demo booths they would stop you if you pressed escape to check what settings the games were running on
5. Delete this.
>>339615767
>games in SLI run better
WOW
O
W
>>339615767
You can do 4 way SLI with 1080s
You will need to do 8 way SLI with RX480s which no games support.
>>339615767
LMAO
bad day for #teamgreen
>>339615767
1080 is 700 now?
>>339615767
>using more than 1 video card
ENJOY MICROSTUTTER AND INCREASED TEMPS IN YOUR CASE
SLI SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR RENDERING. GAMES WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FULLY UTILIZE MORE THAN 1 SEPARATE VIDEO CARD TO THE FULLEST.
ITS A WASTE OF MONEY
>>339615767
where were you when Nvidia got BTFO hard by AMD in 2016
lol newegg is tweeting "get your Zotac 1080's!"
>>339618230
Founders Edition is 700$.
>>339617851
They've got a tdp of 150w
So 650 would be enough
>>339615767
>buying AMD anything
>falling for the "its cheaper but performs a lot better!" meme
>AMD press benchmarks can only ever be about AoS now
Meanwhile 99% of games run better on Nvidia by a mile. Enjoy your latest blowdryer.
>>339618323
proper custom pcb is 850
>>339618105
>4way sli 1080
No you cant
>>339618068
this, you dumbass AMDrones
>>339618068
The fuck am I even watching? Both of those screenshoots looks like complete hot garbage.
>>339618425
Never falling for this again. Going team green this time. Getting rid of my 7870 for a 1070.
>>339615767
>ashes of the singularity meme game that gives AMD a huge boost seen in literally no other games
>founders edition meme, real 1080 price is $600
>crossfire meme that doesn't work on most games
You just sold me on the 1080. Going to buy one ASAP and enjoy 144hz 1440p.
>>339615767
Why haven't the banned gpu brand war
>>339618631
The snow is using HairFX
>>339618323
But why would you buy the founders edition when any custom one is cheaper, better cooled and has a higher clock rate anyway?
anyone else buy some amd stock. moon mission is a-go.
>>339617857
>being a poorfag
>>339618659
Idk, shouldn't this be in technology, not fucking /v/?
>>339618738
>snow
Anon that looks like some 2004 DOOM 3 plastic and not snow, what game is this? Looks awful.
Problem is Crossfire/SLI is janky as fuck. Devs can barely optimize for one card, much less two.
>>339618865
To be fair it is a jpg of a 480p youtube video
is it better to build an entirely new computer or should you try to salvage some parts? I have a 2011 hp prebuilt and my gpu is the only thing I want to change but I think I'm in for a lot of bullshit if I just try to change that as I will probably need a new psu and motherboard. MY cpu is alright.
>>339618978
>jpg vs PNG format war when
>>339619232
It already happened shitty trip user, kill yourself.
I love how a Shit Game is used as a benchmark these days.
At least Crysis was worth playing.
>>339619481
kill your baby sister, kill your family, then hang yourself, yadda yadda yadda
>>339618068
This. Notice how they have the RX 480 under NDA till June 29th. If it was actually good they'd want reviews out before 1070 comes out so people wait for it. Its going to be awful.
>>339615767
>1 game
>Tries Batman Arkham Knight
>AMD gets BTFO
Get fucked.
>>339615767
SLI/Crossfire usually runs like shit, or only works good on selected games
Unless the benefits are on -everything- and not in AMD's optimized games there's nothing to be hype about
>>339619015
Depends what the rest of the specs are, obviously.
You should still keep things like harddrives etc regardless.
>>339617857
> no exclusives
Extreme bait
>>339620502
>Arkham Knight
as if that game runs acceptably on any card
>>339620896
I get 60fps on my 970 @1080p with Interactive paper and Smoke off.
AMD is literally the Xbox of gpus though.
they're just console-lites
>>339620770
>Yes good goy, buy a $600 video card instead of a $200 one to pair with your current card for the same performance.
SLI and CF are absolutely fine in the vast majority of games.
POO
>>339617862
I remember that shit.... and funny enough it was more than a meme because cards would actually burn out due to shitty nvidia drivers.
Graphics cards wars are literally worse than console wars.
>>339621223
>Implying any part of my post advocated the action of buying a $600 card
>Implying micro stuttering isn't a thing
>>339615767
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>339621605
>>339621605
is someone trying to pretend to be a video game character?
am I missing something
>>339621605
If you want a certain level of performance, your options are
Buy single GPU that achieves said performance
or
MultiGPU
Microstutter isn't a big deal anymore. Frametimes with SLI and CF are way better than they used to be, and with tech like Gsync or Freesync everything is very smooth.
>>339615767
Crossfire/SLI is a meme and people who bandwagon either company are fucking retarded.
>>339621605
can you....can you actually buy this doll
asking for a friend
>>339615767
You mean AMD right
tl:dr AMD didn't do nuffin
>2x Radeon
>2x
ERA OF RADEON IS COMIN BACK BOYS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_3pn7rOfc
>YOU NEED 2 AMD CARDS TO COMPETE WITH ONE NVIDIA ONE FOR +4FPS
MAX FUCKEN KEK
We're witnessing the birth of amdworks. What a time to be alive.
>>339622364
And you could get 4 AMD Cards for the price of a Nvidia.
>>339622692
And even then Crossfire support is so fucking shit that devs will only use one.
>>339622831
>>339621689
Pictures too small to tell, but it looks as if someone photoshopped an action figure to try and look real.
>>339621264
>millionaire Haji
>still awkward and nervous all the time
>>339621689
Jill in Resident Evil was modeled after Julia Voth
Two graphics cards will always offer a worse real world experience than a single gpu. Fuck SLI/crossfire, I'm never going back to multi gpu solutions
>unironically building an SLI machine
It's a meme, the bonuses are theoretical and rarely translate. So many games don't even support SLI, and then many that do only have marginal 10% bonuses. Add in microstutter and you're actually getting shittier performance than you would have with a single card
>>339618523
but you can
you just need an enthusiasts key or something
>>339615767
Benchmark on a game nobody cares about but AMD. Lmao
>>339625085
>Fuck SLI/crossfire, I'm never going back to multi gpu solutions
You can't be this retarded anon
>tfw you didnt buy AMD stock last year
could have made 30k
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339621264
Linus is so moe
>>339617691
i can buy 2x480 and a stupid xboxone. HAHAH
Why do they call it the 480?
Because when you see it you turn 480 degrees and walk away.
>>339615767
>Ashes of Singularity
>A game built from the ground up for AMD
You can get any more of a biased benchmark than that lol. They use Ashes for literally EVERY SINGLE BENCHMARK THEY SHOW.
>>339625487
fuck off reddit
>tfw they're losing so hard in single card performance they have to use (two) graphics cards to even match any nvidia card in an amd sponsored game
i'd like to see those cards beating the 1080 in arma 3 or an nvidia sponsored game like tomb raider or witcher 3. amd loses once again i guess.
>>339625487
lord jesus is the savior of pc gaming. amd sucks. amen.
>>339625413
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply
>>339615767
3Dfx is superior to any other platform. Glide Api is the future. Prove me wrong.
>protip: you can't
>>339626303
I didn't need this fetish
>>339615767
At what cost?
Quality does not come out of nowhere, especially not from a -$200 gap. Something is going to get sacrificed for that performance output, which is only going to be a short term thing compared to what quirks the card(s) might exhibit over their lifetime.
Do people really still believe that Nvidia's prices are purely artificially and arbitrarily inflated?
>>339626303
Even though I don't have the slightest idea of what im saying, you're wrong
>>339626303
>for AMD
what proprietary software does AMD use that would hinder competition?
>>339626616
>quality doesn't come from no where
>gsync and freesync are impossible to tell apart in a blind trial yet gsync monitors cost $200 more
Lmao
>>339615767
>1.00 AMD points deposited to your account. Thanks for your business, Schlomo Shekelbergstein
>>339626694
not him but optimizing for a single architecture (eg GCN) has much more of an effect on competing architectures compared to the affects of proprietary software. it could be comparable to a game being made and optimized for xbox and then ported over to the ps4. it will run fine on ps4 but it won't take advantage of that extra hardware performance that we expect it to have over the xbox.
>>339626842
>moving goalposts from graphics cards to proprietary experimental solutions for frame sync
Nvidia seems to have taken the inefficient and overengineered route on that one though. Match point for AMD on this issue, at least for the moment.
Sapphire rx 480 when?
>>339615767
Only thing is that crossfire is cannot reliably be compared to a single graphics card because there's a lot of factors other than graphics performance that people may be looking for.
>power usage
>reliability(2x the cards means 2x the chance of failure)
>running heat
I'm a pretty big AMD fanboy I want them to succeed really bad but we have to wait and see. I hope their performance really reaches or even exceeds their claims.
>>339620971
I get 60fps at 1440p on my 390 with Gameworks shit turned off.
>>339617332
feel yah
>>339625413
but he's right.
>>339627291
Freesync isn't proprietary. It's open source. It's part of Displayport 1.2a's standards. Nvidia could easily support it on their GPUs if they wanted to, but they'd rather you pay the Nvidia tax.
>>339615767
Can someone explain to me why they ONLY show bench marks for Ashes of Singularity? *winky face*
>>339628749
first true DX12.
>>339615767
>2 cards
>Twice the heat
>Twice the power draw
>Many applications still don't support CF
>One game no one gives a shit about
>>339628520
Sorry, I worded that badly, but I was referring to GSync as the proprietary one. Both are experiments into solving the screen tearing problem for good but Nvidia took the wrong route this time.
It's not even in common use yet, isn't it? There may be miscellaneous advantages to Gsync that are still unknown, but maybe not. Freesync wins this one for now from what I see right now.
>>339628749
Because it's the only thing they can do well.
For example if I was really got at knitting, I'd challenge an MMA fighter to knitting. And now I'm better than him!
>>339630195
Pretty much every monitor aimed at gaming released in the past 2 years supports freesync or gsync Going forward it's going to expand further for freesync because there is no added cost for putting it in, especially after Intel starts supporting it on their iGPUs, it won't even be a "gamer" exclusive feature, it'll just be a normal thing for monitors to have.
>>339615767
>Implying anymore Amd approved(tm) dx12 games are coming out in the next year and a half.
Enjoy your on paper only performance.
>>339618068
>There is no guarantee this performance gap will carry over to other games
well it has, on every single native dx12 title so far. Like Gears of War and Hitman
>>339618653
>Spending $400 for a 10% performance boost over a $200 card
wew lad. The 1070 was the deal of the decade before yesterday.
>>339630108
>>Twice the heat
>>Twice the power draw
mean nothing
>>Many applications still don't support CF
every video game currently released supports Crossfire
>one game
that's the dx12 performance difference. We dont know about Dx11 performance
>sli
enjoy youre microstutters and incompatibilities you fucking morons
>>339631607
>Like Gears of War and Hitman
>native dx12
are you high?
>tfw sli and crossfire doesn't even work in most game
>tfw have to have fullscreen for it to work
>tfw energy bill
>>339615767
>>339617656
This card will probably be 2x 400 euros because everything imported gets like a 75% price increase
>>339631695
>r9 480x
>not even as fast as a 980
>gtx 1070
>faster than a titan x in many cases
>>>>>10% performance difference
i know which one i'd get. 1070 is clearly the best value. if i wanted between 970 and 980 performance i'd just buy a used 980 for $250 in 6 months time and overclock it to 980 ti performance.
>>339622217
They included it in the price though. The card is only $200, so the value is true if it lives up to what they say.
That being said, do we have real specs on this thing yet or just vague stuff like this?
>>339618068
Official benchmark data.
They're both doing 1440p crazy settings.
The terrains are randomly generated every time.
1 gpu >>>>>> 2 gpus, all day everyday.
>>339632627
>1080 using a newer gimped version specifically made to fuck its performance
welp, at least they tried. still can't wait to get my hands on a 1080.
>>339618068
like the other guy said, the terrain here is procedurally generated.
STILL WAITING ON A LIST OF "REAL" DX 12 GAMES COMING OUT IN THE NEXT YEAR.
AMD maintaining their dominance in the theoretical performance without real world real world results category.
NVIDIOTS IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL
>>339633671
E3 will probably give us a good idea.
>>339633262
it's normal for a game with async compute to be faster on amd
however, ashes of the singularity will be the only game
you're hearing a lot about how all dx12 will run faster on amd. because i'm sure you can't wait to play those unified windows eXperience games from the windows store on win10, right anon?
>>339626303
Of course they would use Ashes. It's one of the only DX12 games to use Aync Compute, so it works well in their favor.
>a game built from the ground up for AMD
literally no. Async compute is the only thing here, and Nvidia still hasn't put hardware async compute in their new cards, which is fucking retarded really. Their cards use software emulation of async compute, which usually results in WORSE performance in DX12 games that use it. This is why Quantum Break and Ashes run so well on AMD compared to green team.
>>339633784
lol the fact these amd shills are begging for the downfall of pc gaming by actually supporting windows' crazy attempt to wrestle steam out of business with their windows store games just shows how deluded a fanbase they are.
>>339633262
And the dual gpu was only utilizing about 51% from the slideshow. This means theres lots of headroom for this to be better later on with proper implementation.
>>339633671
Hitman? TotalWar: Warhammer?
>>339633784
>ashes of the singularity will be the only game
Quantum Break uses it too.
>>339634075
>Quantum Break
>runs well on anything
you're joking right? are you seriously defending this joke of a development team which produced probably the most broken game in the last year which doesn't even run well at 1080p low settings on either a fury x or 980 ti?
amd fanboys. ill never understand how they could defend these things just because they have a one up over nvidia for once.
They haven't been able to compete for a while and yet they still sell more. It's like thinking Apple is doomed because they have an inferior product.
>>339634490
>amd fanboys
I've never even fucking owned an amd card. I LITERALLY ONLY fucking stated that Quantum Break uses async compute, you don't have to keep going with shit I know.
>>339618654
To be fair nvidia pulled the same shit with DOOM
>>339634657
Everyone who shills async compute is a fanboy.
Reminder, neither pascal nor maxwell does async compute on hardware level.
>>339635041
>Reminder, neither pascal nor maxwell does async compute on hardware level.
I already said that. They use emulation for async compute and that's why they get worse performance in async compute games than when using DX11.
>expecting the marketing hype to be true for either company
I understand this isn't /g/ but come on guys.
>crossfire
Oh, can't wait to wait for every new game driver update. Hope my favorite game will get on the list!
>>339635397
>microstutter
DELETE THIS
>>339617656
>>339617514
>>339615767
$199 - 4GB 480
$250 - 8 GB 480
FYI.
If you want xfire, be prepared for the stuttering games.
>mfw I was actually looking for a card on a budget to upgrade my toaster
>>339635820
http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/june-smart-toaster-oven/
>>339635741
With that price point that should be competitive with nvidia's equivalent cards. Let's hope AMD's software takes advantage of the hardware.
>>339618654
>implying nvidia didn't do that with crysis 2 and bitcher 3
>>339617514
It says 2x so you weren't wrong
>He fell for the dual GPU meme
>not going quad GPU setup
>tfw quad 480 would still only be $100 more expensive and get twice than power of 1080
kek
>>339636225
$199 is pretty useless because of 4GB.
$250 is nice, but not faster than 1070.
$500 is amazing deal and faster than 1070, but have to deal with the stuttering games, energy bill, high temp, etc...
Again, remember that 970 in DX11 games always performs better than 390X, which is similar to 480.
NVIDIA SPECIAL SHOW MAY 5-6/2016
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SHOW:
1. NVIDIA ANSEL
3D screenshots and Super-Hi-Res screenshots capability
Comes to 1000s series with launch, comes to 9xx series later this year. Free, with drivers.
2. PHYSICAL-BASED VIRTUAL SOUND
3. GTX 1070 AND 1080 ANNOUNCED
4. SINGLE PASS MULTI-PROJECTIONS FOR MULTI-MONITOR SETUP (for any 1000s card, free with drivers)
5. SINGLE-PASS STEREO FOR VR (free, comes with driver for 1000s)
AMD COMPUTEX 2016 SHOW
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SHOW:
1. RADEON 480X ANNOUNCED
------
Damn, Nvidia sure got just told, kek.
>but... but! look at the benchs!
Sure I did, see picrelated.
>>339636874
DELETE THIS
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339636835
Why is this only 5 cores.
>>339636660
>He thinks the SLI/Crossfire scales well beyond 2 cards
>>339636835
>970 always perform better than 390X in DX11
What?
Pics related, a "neutral" game with Nvidiaworks
>>339637215
?
>>339637215
>one of few DX11 games
See >>339637035
So do I buy this budget red meme card to replace my 3 year old budget green meme card? GTX 650. I just want to get by without bottlenecking on 1 GB VRAM since I'm used to playing on a budget card.
>>339636874
>1080
>high end flagship gpu that costs 700$
>480
>medium end gpu that costs 200$
Fuck off Njewdia shill
>>339632627
>Official benchmark data.
I don't understand.
What that image tries to convey?
AllI i see is that AMD GPU, with that mythological Async Compute support, performs 2+ fps better in specifically optimzied for AMD hw game compare to Nvidia top current card?
Like... what? What kind of argument it is supposed to be?
>nvidia card without any optimization literally at no disadvantage against something that was supposed to be an equal competitor
haha what
>>339637215
>>339632627
FUCKING DELETE THIS
>>339615767
>Running two cards
I am all for going with whichever company pushes out the better cards, but I'll be avoiding using a dual gpu setup. That's just asking for trouble.
>>339637368
Well, this chart shows that 970 is faster than 390X. I rest my case.
>Post yfw you didn't fall for the 970 meme and now you can get a more powerful card for half the price
>>339637215
and another
>>339637507
>>339637368
>>339637382
>selected
>https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_390_Nitro/23.html
15 games here. Check mate.
>>339637458
Do it
AMD is way better on a budget, and your card won't get gimped by newer drivers
>>339615767
>People still don't know that different hardware runs different games differently
Seriously people.
>>339637478
1. Only Founder's Editoin is 699, the normal price will be 499$ non-ref wit better cooling like DeepCool or Windofrce
2. Exactly my point, more expensive card perform literally TWICE as faster. That is how it should be and that is why people prefer quality over quantity?
I was promised by AMD shills equal competitor.
In real games I see that more expensive card is way, WAY faster.
Where is the promised "equal performance by the price of 199$"
???
???????????????????????????
>>339637693
This is literally the basis of the graphics card industry. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>339637634
>>339637493
Did you read what the post was linking to? Specifically the 3rd, 4th, 5th point.
>>339637493
>2 480s are $100-200 cheaper than 1080 non-scam edition
>equal competitor
>>339615767
>ashes of the singularity
wew, where is literally any other comparison?
>>339637643
>2% better
>$100+ more
????
>>339637738
>I was promised by AMD shills equal competitor.
What? Nobody told you this. It was reported for weeks that the AMD card that would be announced wouldn't be a high end card to compete equally with Pascal. That will probably be Vega, my dude.
>>339637830
I don't understand this post.
I assume it's point was to point out I was told.
I'm desperately trying to see where and how.
>>339615767
When AMD dies, how much higher will hardware costs be?
One sole company owns all the sunglasses and they're cheap as fuck.
>>339637493
>amd card was optimized
They literally said it was only using 51% of its utilization. Its an unoptimized benchmark for AMD's GPU.
>>339637215
>posting false benchmarks
kek
why does /v/ suddenly approve of race to the bottom product?
>>339637857
Nope. They have to wait longer for the driver that helps 480 performing better on other games. See >>339637035
Enjoy being a waitfag.
>>339615767
>2x anything
yeah, how about not
So what games are you guys trying to run anyways?
All these new cards seem kind of overkill.
>>339617663
>SLI/Crossfire
Ahahahahaha
Enjoy your stuttering you plebs
>>339632627
>those CPU benchmarks
AMD is cooking that shit hard. There's no way anyone would want that.
Where's the Vulkan benchmark?
>>339637962
They'll never die because Nvidia will have an antitrust lawsuit on their hands otherwise. So Nvidia would rather pay to keep AMD around than have them go away completely, same as Microsoft and Apple. AMD will always be relegated to the cuck shed.
Two RX480s will perform similar to this
You forgot to add the part where amd cards are massive power hogs and you'll have to pay 200 for your new 800 psu plus more every month on your electric bill
>>339637937
>What? Nobody told you this.
Are you fucking blind
i will spoonfeed you retard:
https://youtu.be/ZwlQvjwYFEM?t=2264
Literally AMD rep says "same performance by lower price"
literally call it analogue solution
LITER-fucking-ALLY.
get cucked
When you make statement like that you have to understand you gotta hold answer for that in real benchmark. And, oh goyim, I CAN"T wait for these benchmark.
>AMD cucks on suicide watch
CLOCK LITERALLY TICKING
TICK
TOCK
>>339637738
>1. Only Founder's Editoin is 699, the normal price will be 499$ non-ref wit better cooling like DeepCool or Windofrce
>200 less
Source
>>339637962
200% markup minimum with more options that only differ slightly
>>339638173
yeah SLI is less likely to get that than Crossfire. Look at the chart >>339635741
>Worrying this much about pricing
If the price is that big a deal perhaps you cucks should get a real job.
>>339638218
480 is 150W
Fuck you
>>339637998
>Its an unoptimized benchmark for AMD's GPU.
>Ashes of Singularity
>unoptimized benchmark for AMD
you either ignorant faggot or tying to bait me
I think I will stay away just for the sake of it.
>>339637738
>499$
599 you mean. Founders is a $100 premium (for nothing).
>>339638367
You can't overclock it with that power. Unless you better crack up, enjoy your housefire card.
>>339638374
Do you understand what new cards are? Its not optimized for the new 480 dual gpu setup. There's still drivers to be written on AMD's side and there's work to be done on the game side.
They have nearly 50% head room ahead. This would translated well into 60+ fps and maybe even into 70-90 fps category, if the scaling is perfect. At the very least, an optimized version would be alot better than 1080.
>>339638061
>false benchmark
kek
>>339637738
>1. Only Founder's Editoin is 699, the normal price will be 499$ non-ref wit better cooling like DeepCool or Windofrce
Non-reference will be $600, not $500.
>2. Exactly my point, more expensive card perform literally TWICE as faster. That is how it should be and that is why people prefer quality over quantity?
>twice as faster
Anyway, AMD needs more market share, and more people buy $200 GPUs than buy $600 GPUs. They're picking their battles carefully here. So what's the problem?
>I was promised by AMD shills equal competitor.
You were literally never promised this by anyone ever. Everyone knew Polaris was the midrange chip, everyone knew Vega was the high end chip that wasn't going to show, and any time someone spoke with this knowledge you tried the "I thought Polaris was supposed to be high-end, what happened? XDDD" shit, and every single time you were called out for knowing this wouldn't be the case.
>>339638194
>AMD will never die because nvidia would be under anti-trust scrutiny
That's not how it works.
Anti-trust only covers acquisitions, so Nvidia would not be permitted to acquire AMD's assets and IPs. Some other company would have to come along to take up AMD's mantle as competitor to Nvidia.
For a while, Nvidia would be unchallenged and legally obtain a monopoly over their market by default.
>Buying the inferior AMD 480
>He doesn't play it the way it's meant to be played
>>339638262
see>>339638414
I fucked up, was thinking of 1070
>>339638685
>You were literally never promised this by anyone ever.
see
>>339638252
nobody forced that AMD rep spouting these words yet it did.
>>339637942
The point is that Polaris is NOT an equal competitor, and was never intended to be or ever played up as such, yet two of them is just as good as Nvidia's flagshipin one heavily AMD-biased game that actually has CFX supportfor less money.
>>339632627
>Resolution: 0 x 0
>>339615767
Yeah that's great, I'll be much more impressed when they release a processor that at least competes with the 6700k at a cheaper price.
>>339639069
Game doesn't recognize the cards yet. The drivers aren't ready yet.
Keepsweating
>>339638252
He said that for two cards, nice moving goal posts fucking dumbass
>>339639069
>mismatched versions
>Nvidia card CPU performance nearly double all around
The writing's on the wall. AMD's new card is going to eat mainboard bridges for breakfast.
>>339638742
>tfwstill using a GTX 480 in my PCThankfully, my friend is giving me his GTX 970 when gets a 1070, fuck yes.
>>339638579
>Do you understand what new cards are?
It has nothing to do with 'new cards"
AMD480 isn't really new tech like Pascal. It just, supposedly, more powerful Fury analog.
But even if disregard that, devs of AoS were in cahoots with AMD team since day 0. There is a reason why they were spouting that ABSOLUTELY nonsensical irrelevant shit about lack of Async Compute on Nvidia side (something that never became relevant and people and devs forgot about). If you read the blogs of some of the devs or twitter (we have this thread before on /v/ in 2015 when this shit was flying around) you'd see "AMD this" and "AMD that". Ashes of Singularity is literally what these nvidia "Way it meantto be played" games with Gameworks were. The game was developed in mind for AMD, both dev team were in right contact so it is no wonder it runs on AMD better. I mean, it is normal practice, nvidia does that to---
Oh wait,
Except it does not run much better at all. 2 fps, kek.
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>>339639194
Mom said stop touching the thermostat fuccboi
>>339639054
literally post above you
you can stop talking about things you know nothing about
>>339639204
>>339637458
Almost the same boat, but 650 Ti. I just want 1080p/60FPS on newer games on max/almost max settings, is it safe to assume the RX480 could do that? It's a really nice price.
>>339639426
>AMD480 isn't really new tech like Pascale
kek
>amd is 2fps better and >$200 cheaper therefore is BAD
The shill is retarded.
So, Why wont AMD release a card to replace the GT 610 or the GTX 950SE? if polaris is this efficient and cheap they could be able to do it with no problem.
Will aftermarket sellers make the card look less retarded?
![amd-radeon-split-2015-09-10-03[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/971mNEj.jpg "amd-radeon-split-2015-09-10-03[1].jpg")
Apologize.
>>339639204
>it took 2 brand new champion cards from AMD to top single-gpu card from nvidia by 4 fps
>>339639426
Pascal isn't a new tech like Pascal either. It just, supposedly, more powerful 980 ti analog.
>>339632627
>Those differences in CPU framerate
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>339639646
I know this is bait but whatever.
2 $200 cards vs a $700+ card.
>>339639606
POO
>>339639606
But I already have a 390x
>>339639518
And you can too.
The only thing "biased" about Ashes is that it uses Async compute, which Nvidia doesn't have full hardware support for (software emulation of it). Nvidia could use it if they wanted to, be for some dumb fucking reason they haven't bothered to put hardware async compute in their cards.
>>339639676
Intel doesn't like AMD GPUs.
>>339639551
>The shill is retarded.
>2x top new champion cards
>only managed to beat single nvidia GPU card by 4 FPS
>in a specifically selected benchmark
You can't make this up. Shit is golden.
Let's take a look at real games then
>>339639776
Its DX12 and doesn't use Gameworks. Therefore bias.
GUYS
GUYS
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT ASHES OF SINGULARITY IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT GAME IN EXISTENCE AND IS ALSO THE BEST SELLING GAME OF ALL TIME AND IS THE ABSOLUTE ONLY BENCHMARK THAT IS ALLOWED TO BE SHOWCASED. REAL SLI BENCHMARKS OF ACTUAL MAINSTREAM, POPULAR GAMES ARE NOT ALLOWED. HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE FORGET THIS
????????????
>>339639665
>Pascal isn't a new tech like Pascal either.
>>339634296
But everytime someone brings up hitman or rise of the tombraider bechmarks they are told they are not "real" dx12 games and therfore don't count.
>>339639907
kys butthurt faggot
Ehhh I'll only need one 480. Just enough to run newer releases at 1080 60. 7870 isn't what it used to be.
>>339639907
Sweating too much
>>339639863
>doesn't use Gameworks
So this is AMD bias now? What the fuck, this is some retarded bait. Gameworks didn't even exist until 2 years ago. Are you saying every game before was AMD biased?
>>339639940
Its only a "real" DX12 games, if they have gameworks.
>>339639723
I know this is bait but whatever.
2x 200$ cards vs 1x 599$
90fps in real game vs 180 fps in real game
+4 fps in single benchmark with obscure dx12 instruction
kek
Nobody will buy founder's edition in their right mind.
I love seeing the same news piece and repeated reposts of various wojak memes with different hats of different brands.
>>339639054
>heavily AMD-biased game with CFX support
>that shitty CPU performance
Really, now?
The moment your CPU lags behind your GPU, you get microstutter. AMD has always been plagued with that issue, and here we see it assuredly resurfacing in these benchmarks:
>>339632627
Imagine running event scripts, AI, and multiplayer hosting on that machine. The Nvidia rig could take the CPU hit and still run fine, AMD rig is borderline unplayable in those benchmarks and will be tipped over the edge the moment any heavy lifting is required.
That's Crossfire eating the CPU alive. It's no good.
>>339639907
he's right you know. who the fuck cares about a benchmark of some unknown and irrelevant game. showing this game as a ultimate benchmark is like saying 3dmark firestrike is the ultimate benchmark for testing all gpu's. synthetics never mean anything in real world performance. i'd bed $100 right now that these 2 cards won't beat even an oc 1070 in the majority of titles.
>>339639776
>The only thing "biased" about Ashes is that it uses Async compute, which Nvidia doesn't have full hardware support for (software emulation of it).
but that is the FUCKING point retard.
They don't use it and the difference between card that has full optimzied HW suppeor vs card that has none is
FOUR
FUCKING
FPS
Now go back to Google and read the articles from September 2015 about what big deal AMD and AoS devs tried to make out of it
it just pathetic
NOBODY
LITERALLY
CARES
as expected
>>339636874
[X] Doubt
>>339640286
It's a mid range card.
You seem upset.
>>339640083
But its Amd fans that keep telling us those games like hitman are not full dx12 games.
GTX 1060Ti will blow the fuck out this card.
>>339638252
>>339638925
>I am a retarded retard who enjoys misinterpreting unambiguous statements to prove how unintelligent I am
Right there in the very video you link and timestamp - thank you, by the way - you see him pointing out how the 1080 gets matched by a GPU that ISN'T an equal competitor by means of Crossfire while still maintaining a lower pricepoint.
I don't know why the fuck you're still trying to go with this fucking dipshit argument. At the end of the day, everyone knows flagship cards aren't price/performance kings, they never have been, everyone knows AotS is heavily biased in favour of AMD in benchmarks, and everyone knows Crossfire and SLI aren't reliable or widely adopted enough to make the demo really matter. That's all you need, you can stop telling us how fucking stupid you are any time now.
>>339640398
>It's a mid range card.
tell that to the shill who directly position it as a competitor to 1080
Felel free to actually watch the stream instead of spouting your ignorance.
go on
>>339640482
>Buying anything below the 1070
are you being ironic here?
>AYYMD 300W HOUSEFIRES
>Nvidia super power efficient and single CPU with no multi-GPU stuttering
NVIDIA WON
>>339640523
>felel free
Dunno about that anon, but I'll take that lolberty now.
>>339640523
I haven't seen anyone actually use the card as direct competitor. It's mostly just show of technology since AMD started from low-mid end and still wanted to get a piece of Nvidia's high end so they decided to show their new technology with crossfire. Direct competitor was always Vega.
>>339640286
>They don't use it and the difference between card that has full optimzied HW suppeor vs card that has none is
keeeeeeeeeeeeek i just realised this. nvidia cards are gimped with this benchmark yet they still come out on top or at least match amd. holy shit amd are really finished.
>>339640523
Jesus fucking christ how can you go on putting out stupid bullshit like this?
They put TWO of them against a 1080 to show that you can have around the same performance for much less cost. Not a single card competing.
Fucking retard.
>>339640576
thermal throttling
