What will be the next genre to experience a slow death once the RTS genre is completely dead?
mmorpg obviously.
I'm STILL upset about Westwood.
>>339614337
Westwood or Westwood EA
>>339614337
It's time to let go. Westwood had a huge share of blame to what happened with themselves and Petroglyth proved that the C&C series was a fluke.
Not to mention that Generals and C&C3 have better multiplayer than any of the pure WW C&C titles.
>>339615456
>make multi million dollars franchise for years
>release 2 bad games
>SHUT IT DOWN
I fucking hate video games.
>>339615637
One bad game. RA3 was mediocre when compared with the other games but it wasn't bad.
C&C4 was such a colossal failure though. It's rare to see a project with so many bad decisions like that one. And then right near its release SC2 came out, ensuring that no other RTS game would have the spotlight for a long time, kinda like how Overwatch is doing right now with character-based shooters.
>>339612321
Blizzard was unimportant compared to Westwood. Warcraft 2 was not a competitor to C&C or Red Alert in strictest sense. I have no idea why RTS was dead though. Tiberian Sun was a mistake. Yes, that must be the reason.
>>339616013
RA3 and C&C4 are Electronic Arts' games though.
Aside from C&C: Renegade which was a mediocre, but fun fps, Westwood also made an mmorpg Beyond Earth which bombed. Both titles were considered a failure and EA decided to end them. Still, that's not the reason to close such a successful company.
>>339612321
All of them except shooters? We're half way through the year and much every big release this year outside XCom and Fire Emblem has been a shooter.
>>339616739
>Street Fighter V
>Dark Souls 3
>Bravely Second
>Battlefleet Gothic
>Star Fox Zero
?
First Person Shooters
>>339615456
Is there a game that does Night missions as good as TS? Other than World in conflict
>>339618246
Reading what could have been if only the game wasn't rushed out the door is depressing.
Still, an amazing game.
>>339615456
>multiplayer rts
always cancer. C&C is about 4 hour skirmish games against AI that fucks your mother to death.
Generals is not a westwood game, it is an EA game that used the westwood name. It wasn't even envisioned as a C&C game until they realized they could just change a few things then slap the c&c name on it.
generals also had the worst fucking pathing/ai in the history of rts.
As far as I am concerned RTS as a genre exists solely in the form of the RA2YR modding community now, and that is fine because it is safe from jewish tricks there.
APYR/mental omega even added in co-op singleplayer campaigns to a fucking 10 year old game.
>>339619009
>APYR/mental omega even added in co-op singleplayer campaigns
HOOOOOOLY SHIT I need to check that out.
>>339619009
>always cancer. C&C is about 4 hour skirmish games against AI that fucks your mother to death.
Yeah, that's why even the very first C&C had an archaic multiplayer feature right? Even the Mental Omega mod that you are stroking your cock over has an active competitive community.
>Generals is not a westwood game
No shit, that was my point.
I want an RTS game where a limited amount of players can join a game as independent units, from their point of view. With friendly fire and spontaneous joining on. With the possibility of them even creating their own faction of sorts.
Like friendly/hostile invasions of dark souls. The commander mode in battlefield games is so lackluster.
>>339617460
Will never die.
RTS's have a lot of fundamental problems.
Noone can agree at which speed they should play. They better you get at them the more buttons you need to press the more stressful and anti-fun the game becomes.
Soon as you get a tiny bit competent the vast majority of singleplayer rts becomes trivila. Balancing difficulties for a wide variety of players is really hard.
Noone can agree on how much base management there should be, scouting, micro management, existence of early timing attacks and how early they can arrive, cheese, etc.
Its a cursed genre doomed to spread apart to an incredibly wide and incredibly focused group of niche genres (tactics focused, grand strat, 4x, mobas, twitch rts's, classic rts's, ta type games).
>>339620679
>Will never die.
I think it will die because of Overwatch and Battleborn
>>339621607
I don't want to believe this is real
>>339621607
>make players fight creeps, towers to get gold and level up
>make them aim even though its so trivial it might as well be automated for the player
>call it an fps
Just why do this
>>339619009
>C&C is about 4 hour skirmish games against AI
Like fuck it was. The best part about C&C is beating other people online and learning new strats to do it.
>its another blow the dam mission
>>339622341
Its literally that bad. I think the biggest offender is that all of the guns are xbox huge.
>>339612321
>once the RTS genre is completely dead?
Never gonna happen.
It's not nearly as popular as it once was, but RTS games are still being made. And other dead genres have proven that it doesn't take much for interest in them to be renewed. Just look at how adventure games have come back to popularity despite being "dead" for years.
>>339618246
played that level the other day
Surprised you engineers survived the devils tongue
>>339622929
Yeah, I've noticed that too. Why do guns clutter most of the screen in modern fps?
>>339622725
>more rush tactics with no more than 10 combat units at the same time
>both players turtle and then game ends in onr push
>china tank rush lol
>engineer rush lol
no fuck you this games had real bad multiplayer balance.
literally same boring SC2 type of multiplayer.
Westwood and generals were only good skirmish games vs AI or friends that didn't play like competetive faggots with no fun allowed
>>339619009
I hope they release that 4th side eventually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3OyNXFB3tk
>>339623262
They don't in the only fps's I play nowadays. CSGO lets you adjust where the gun is but in general is pretty ok.
Overwatch is fine aside from pharahs rocket, but nowhere near as bad as stillborne.
Reflex and Quake Live lets you customize that shit.
its a console thing. The guns are designed with a tiny fov in mind I guess. Or maybe its just pride on the art design for their gun model.
>>339622683
>gun model takes up half of the screen
ha ha seriously tho if you dont stop this shit some bitch is getting a slap.
>>339623472
>>both players turtle and then game ends in onr push
Sounds like your just shit at the game. Anyone who is good doesnt do that.
>>339612321
JRPGs have been in decline for the last 10 years
>>339623807
>you don't like my shit multiplayer you must be shit
terrific arument, same thing lol and csgo kiddies say.
nice to see you also ignored all the other type of games and forgot to give an argument abiut them
please consider suicide
the only good rts games in miltiplayer are the ones that don't allow for autistic rush tactics or base rushing (or severely punished it like wargame, blitzkrieg or men of war)
literally the opposite of westwood games
>>339624328
I'm saying a good player doesnt turtle until they have a massive army you retard.
