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>Kicking off at this moment is AMD’s Computex 2016 keynote. The company has multiple announcements scheduled this evening, but we’re going to jump right into an area that has been of extreme interest for many of our readers: GPUs
>Ahead of this evening’s event, AMD sent out an email to the press teasing the first of their discrete Polaris architecture based cards. Called the Radeon RX 480, AMD has unveiled much of the product’s specifications, but also its price and availability. When the card hits the streets on June 29th, it will be starting at the crucial mainstream battleground price point of $199.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/10389/amd-teases-radeon-rx-480-launching-june-29th-for-199
go away with your AMD Poolaris, Rajeet
>>339609240
Enjoy your shit optimization in games
>>339609240
the price sounds awesome, but I want to see some fucking benchmarks before I decide wether to get hype
>>339609240
Getting a 1070 regardless unless this thing can even come close to the same performance.
>>339609670
Damage control
$200 card that beats a 390/970
wew lad
Pretty excited to see what the fucking 490 can do
>>339609969
Hes right. On some games, you get lower performance than Nvidia cards on release. It gets much better after AMD releases new drivers and devs realease patch for their games. I'm still buying an AMD card thought.
>>339609969
>not proving him wrong
>just spaming shit
Good Job dude, you really showed him!
POOS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Performance.
>>339609240
Might get a pair.
If they are still doing the never settle thing. I could use 2 more ships in star citizen
>>339610403
>It gets much better after AMD releases new drivers
kekek haha literaley never happen's lololol!
i would buy one instead of 970 but amd makes terrible linux and opengl drivers.
>>339610403
>AMD
>drivers
>>339610584
>I could use 2 more ships in star citizen
>Buying anything other than a starter
>>339610075
*That beats 980 and borders into Fury territory.
>>339609698
It'll probably perform around the quality of a 970. You can quote me on that.
i hate this news so fucking much
its going to kill bitcoin
>>339610757
>damage control
>>339610757
Not really impressive considering the 970 came out like 2 years ago for about 130 or so dollars more. So this is just your normal adjustment.
If it outperforms the 980 then it would be something.
>>339610604
DX12 and vulkan won't need per game optimization.
Only thing Nvidia can do is push devs to not use async compute.
>>339610757
probably half that lolkek
>r9 390x
yawn
on par with a 970 then
fuck off
still buying a 1070
>>339609240
Wow a $199 GTX970.
NVidia BTFO. Who needs 1440+ gaming when we can do 1080 @ 60fps for $199!
Preordered, thanks OP!
>>339610721
I really doubt it will beat a 980 m8. Regardless the amount of tflops, Polaris can't be 'that' good. It would be like skipping 2 generations.
Also how fucked would the pricing on older cards be? If a 480 beats a 980, that means a 390/970 would drop to like $120 price point. I really doubt that's going to happen.
>>339610721
Haha no
http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-shoots-for-value-at-200/
>>339610979
>390x
>on par with 970
Is this what 970 owners tell themselves to justify their bad choices?
>>339611207
The 970 is a 1080p card. It chokes beyond that.
>>339611207
biased garbage, 970 is objectively better
>>339611207
why would i buy a card that is at 61% when i can get a card that is at around 80?
>>339611207
Based Hd 7970/280x
>>339610604
It's true, Fallout 4 comes to my mind.
>>339610685
I had 0 problems when i had my hd 5770 (apart from one time that i overdid the overclock and windows crashed everytime thanks to it, but i kinda think it was my fault). But now, with my gtx 760 i still fear every new driver release. I'm still using the one released i n April or May of last year, since the new ones forced me to reinstall windows. Not even DDU could help me.
>>339611349
That's because 970 is shit. I'm playing games at 2560x1440 just fine on a 390.
>>339611379
that's an average of 16 different games. It's the least biased benchmark
>>339611379
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>>339611480
because you can get two for less than what the other costs
>>339611085
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1464798765325.jpg
There were two batch of cards that had their benchmark leaked a day before the event.
Just an hour ago (or so), it was confirmed the 480 was the C7 variant. So that leaves the C4 variant as the $149 version card.
Notice the C4 variant outperforming 970 by quite a margin? The C7 variant is between 980 and Fury. That would mean the performance is in between those two.
Now step back a moment and think for a second. Remove those two cards from the list, and you get something like this.
>1080 > Titan X > 980 ti > Fury X > Fury > 980 > 390X > 970
This is exactly how a real world gaming performance would be on average right now. If you check almost any game, this would be how the gaming benchmark would show as.
This isn't much, but if you simply assume that the chart is correct, then the 480 would indeed be better than 980. Now there might be few games where 980 beats Fury, but overall Fury is the better card. So in theory, the new 480 will be better than 980 in most games but 980 might beat/tie it in few select games.
As for the C4 variant, thats probably a RX470. The R9 390 might drop out of market and the used cards might go around $120 or so.
>>339611480
because the 80 costs almost twice as much as 61. Not worth the dosh.
>sweatingnvidiots.jpg
>>339610906
That much of a price drop is crazy though compared to relative performance. When the 3xx series came out it was lackluster as fuck because a 290x and a 390 are basically the same card. Fury/x is still too high a price point for it to be "amazing".
But when shit like this happens it throws EVERYTHING out of whack. AMD drops a $200 superclocked 970/390, ALL the prices for EVERY card go down. Brands like MSI, XFX, Sapphire, etc start panicking to figure out how much to sell their old shit for and you wind up with stuff like how I got a 290x LIGHTNING edition for $250 brand new.
These are good times my friend.
AMD fags celebrate price points because that is the literal only thing they can talk about in these threads. They're like a Smart Car on the autobahn getting blown away by a Porsche while going "HAHA YOU MAD THIS CAR WAS CHEAPER YOU IDIOT"
>>339611706
Dude, synthetic benchmarks.
Come the fuck on.
>>339610906
>970
>$130
Yeah, no
>Get 2x 480 for around a GTX 1080 performance for a fuckton of money less
Why wouldnt i do it?
Pc is a joke.
>>339610757
If it performs as a 970 then it will be perfect
$200 for a 970 I cant really complain
$400 for two cards that out perform a 980 im sold
yeah i know alot of games run worse on crossfire but I imagine we're talking mostly AAA titles
>>339610906
I think youre pushing it to have even equal performance to a 980
AMD arent trying to keep up with nVidia anymore by the looks of it
They seemed to have taken the fact that nVidia will always be ahead to their advantage and are now focusing on poorfag market
>>339611983
l2read nerd
>$130 more
>>339611994
Because CF is a meme until DX12/Vulkan become standard.
>>339611862
>cheap
>strong
Perfection
>>339611983
not even that guy but
>130 or so dollars more
>130 + 200 = ????
What happen to people who buy shits at reasonable price instead of cashing out on the expensive shits in the market?
>>339612080
My bad
Still shit considering the new AMD card does the same for a cheaper price
>>339612158
I misread, sue me
>>339611528
>I've had zero problems
>works for me!
>>339611994
I think two 480 will perform like a 980 or 980ti
and also alot of games have poor/no support for crossfire/sli
but for $400 why the fuck not
>>339612158
You have to remember that this is /v/ and $60 for a game is blowing the budget for most of the people here
I'm still waiting for the 490x or 1080ti
someone wake me up when the 490x comes around
>>339611547
>That's because 970 is shit. I'm playing games at 2560x1440 just fine on a 390.
not everyone enjoys games at 1440p 30 fps
>>339609240
what's /g/'s opinion on all this mess? do they have 24/7 nvidia shills too?
>>339612034
/g/ will tell you to never go crossfire/SLI over a single card. If you have 400$, you get a 400$ equivalent single card. Heat alone is a good reason to just go with a single card.
>>339611970
Again, read the remarks. Synthetic benchmarks, but the results align exactly with how a real world benchmark would be.
There are some games like Ashes of Singularity, Hitman, Absolution where AMD cards would dominate. There are some games with gameworks where nvidia would dominate. The average is somewhere like this.
You can check the 3d marks score site and the results averaged out would be something similar to this benchmark result. So basically, the 480 would be more or less be better than 980 given the average. YES, some games it would suck against 980 and some games it would compete with 1070, but the average would be just above 980. This is almost a foregone conclusion at this point.
>>339612443
14nm and 16nm are new production processes. it will be some time before the big cards reach consumers. Don't expect anything before 2017
Ok so
I have an old PC witha 550 in it
Is this card a good upgrade value? Or should I grab one of those EVGA 970s for 200 on newegg?
>>339611528
I find nVidia software easy to use but AMD is far more reliable imo. Shit constantly breaks with nVidia 9/10 youre better off using the graphics drivers that come on the disc that same with mobo/graphics card.
AMD settings can be annoying when you need to find a specific option but they have it all
nVidia although easy to navigate just shitty have multiple apps for one piece of hardware
>Cards getting more and more powerful, while consuming less power
>Games require more and require powerful rigs
>Meanwhile the games themselves don't look much better in comparison to a few years ago
>>339612548
the 980ti came out about 4-6 months after the 980 revealed. Since Nvidia released the 980 this time 2 years ago and the 980ti previewed that fall its likely that the 1080 comes out now then the 1080ti comes out this fall too
>>339612518
Dude, you're suggesting AMD is going to release a $200 equivalent to their Fury? The Fury is still $550 god damn dollars. There is no way in hell dude.
>>339612509
I guess we'll have to see how the 480 performs before buying a single card is worth
because if its of actual price to performance value then maybe two 480's is better than a single $400 card.
But we cant know fo rsure until the card is released
>>339612638
pls respond
>>339611085
>would drop to like $120 price point. I really doubt that's going to happen.
That almost never happens, they even become more expensive for some reason.
>>339612886
the 1070 is right around the corner and is expected to take the 970's original price point of 400 dollars
the 1060 will be out later this year as well
>>339612673
980ti was the last 28nm card to be released and based on a previously released Titan.
the first 28nm card was the 680 and it took almost a year before a Titan on the same architecture was released. Another 9 months before there was a Ti version of Kepler.
>>339612638
Wait until the card comes out and we have performance specs
then deicde wether or not to go 970 or 480
Also if you wait for release 970 price will go down [hopefully]
>>339612886
If you buy a 970 in the current year, you're retarded.
>>339613007
but its not a kepler, the 980ti is a maxwell
>>339612805
They said, in their words, their $200 card will compete with $500 cards.
The (1) benchmark shows the card right below Fury and above 980.
Put the two together, and you get a "destructive", their word, card this generation.
AMD wants to disrupt the nvidia dominance with this card. This is exactly the same thing they did with the 4870 HD back then. Its a repeat of history again
>>339613061
>t. AMDcuck shill
>>339612880
No, you never go crossfire over a single solution. Crossfire is for nerds with 300$ towers and liquid cooling solutions. You are just a basic anon. You can't handle the heat.
>>339611778
>almost same performance as gtx 980
>8GB of VRAM for better future high res texture suppot
>DX12 architecture support (i mean who gives a fuck tho really)
>150W TDP. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY.
FOR $199!!!!! I mean seriously, I don't think any card on the market provides even close to that much performance per dollar. It's pretty insane.
>GTX 1080 can't even handle true DX 12 games with async at 60fps
maximum kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyeSWceptY8
>>339612657
>Literally no difference between Low settings and High settings in games like The Division and DS3.
Why is this allowed?
>>339613076
Maxwell was released when 28nm was already a mature process. It is not comparable to Pascal.
Pascal being the first 16nm generation is comparable to Kepler, i.e. the first generation on the 28nm node
>>339612657
We've hit the point in gaming where graphics really can't go much farther. The graphics wars of the last 20 years are done. Now Nvidia and AMD are struggling to sell stuff like before so they have to hock on a ton of worthless shit and make gaming companys program for it just to make people buy new cards.
Look at how Nvidia is making their drivers lock out their old cards now, they've resorted to cheap frauds to keep their hardware selling. Capitalism at its finest I tell ya.
>>339613061
why? the 970 keeps up just fine
Hes hasnt stated what res hes playing at, im assuming 1080p so 970 is still a boss.
There arent many games that the 970 cant run at max at 1080p
and when the time comes tha you have to change settings from high to medium
buy another
>>339613185
The 8GB version is I think $229. The 4GB version is $199.
>>339613245
>why? the 970 keeps up just fine
>2x the price of a card that performs the same
???
>>339613245
AMD just announced a card that offers better performance than a 970 for $200
Unless you can get a 970 for $150 there is no point.
>>339613080
Look, I think AMD are total bros with all the open source shit they do; but no way in fucking hell, no way in this fucking UNIVERSE are shareholders going to allow a brand new product to destroy their previous investments.
You're living in a meme dream.
>>339613153
>implying desktop computers actually get hot enough to thermal throttle
unless you live where its hot or have a heater on
or just have shit ventilation/fan setup
your pc wont over heat
But i live in new zealand so temps are fine here
>>339613281
That makes more sense, but you're still only paying 30 dollars more for DOUBLE the VRAM; the same amount of vram the gtx 1070 and 1080s have.
>>339613245
Because it's about to less than worthless in comparison to both Nvidia and AMD offerings.
If you're a complete semen slurping Nvidiadrone and want something at that price point, wait for the 1060 which will wipe the floor with a 970.
This whole generation of cards is a major step up from the last. These aren't shitty rebrands.
>>339613214
>Pascal being the first 16nm generation is comparable to Kepler, i.e. the first generation on the 28nm node
Some late Fermi GPUs were built in 28nm, mostly for laptops I think. But yeah, I expect next year Nvidia will have an even more efficient GPU built on the same lithography.
>>339613403
Shareholders want something different. AMD will continue to lose market if they keep pussyfooting.
I think shareholders want this type of disruption and market share more so than simply releasing weak performing cards @ $200. That won't gain any traction with 1070/1080's stronger approach. I was actually considering 1070 myself @ 380 but given the 480 glimpses, there is a great chance that this will be this generations' 970 and with much more mass market appeal.
>>339613386
>>339613325
Yes, my mistake, the new AMD card WILL be better as it is newer and will have better support
but IF he could get a 2nd hand one of craigslist or something for $150 then it would be asolid deal
Thats why i said wait until new card is realeased so the 970 price is justifiable
>>339613442
My single 390 XFX reaches 75c at load in 26c ambient temps. Open case, plenty of headroom. If I stuck another 390 in there my shit would implode.
Don't buy dual cards anon, I'm warning you.
>>339610423
Why would he try to prove wrong a guys baseless argument?
>Enjoy your shit optimization in games
That is a baseless argument.
>>339609240
I am never going to buy an AMD product. AMD is like the chinese knockoff of Nvidia graphics cards and Intel CPU's. They run hotter, have no driver support, and use more power.
I've built PC's professionally for the past 5 years. Yes, when people are looking to buy a budget build, I recommend an AMD CPU and graphics card, but it's only a temporary and short term solution to a more optimized build.
Why do all you faggots care so much about what company you buy from? Why don't you just buy the card that fits your system best? You're all fucking retarded. If this card performs better, or close to the same than the GTX 1070, you can bet your ass I'm going to pick it up.
>>339613678
I would not be so sure the $150 used 970 is great at this point either.
Check this benchmark >>339611778
The C7 is 480 the C4 is most likely 470. Its going to be ~$150. Stronger than 970 and half its current price. So a used one at $150 might not even be a good buy.
These are however speculations, we still need to wait for more comprehensive benchmarks. However if its even remotely close to the benchmark, this is gamechanging.
>>339613403
Shareholders will get mad if AMD stays behind nVidia by a year
If AMD can rake in cash by selling to poorfags then its working
also new cheap card will make their other cards cheaper meaning they sell more product
they are looking at selling more here
youll get more by selling $200 cards to a billion poorfags than you will selling $1000 cards to a million rich guys
>>339613825
>>339611547
and u still cant max witcher with 60fps on that resolution lol kek
>>339613825
I would agree with you if Nvidia hadn't once again crippled the longevity of their GPUs by failing to implement hardware features that were present in the fucking PS4 and Xbox One in 2013.
>>339613772
>AMD parts are made in Taiwan
>Nvidia parts are actually made in China
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>>339614004
>Taiwanese are Chineseinb4 mainlanders dispute shit fact
kek
>>339613923
So? high settings 2560x1440 look better than max settings on 1080p.
>>339613772
Ever since 970, I ain't buying Nvidia. Suc on that.
>>339613720
their target temp is around 80 degrees isnt it?
the cards are designed to withstand 100 degrees or so
my house has about 20 degrees ambient temp so i think i will be fine
even then if you have heating issues buy a $50 prefilled cooler for one of them,
kinda ghetto setup but it works
>>339613825
Because most of the people in this thread are trying to figure the eventual sales pitch they are going to need to make to their parents so they can play LoL and CS Go at 200FPS
>>339613245
i have a 980 ti and i cant have 60fps in witcher 3 maxed anyway so ur 970 will b even shittier
>>339614052
top kek
>>339614063
They're an independent sovereign nation despite what the Chinese government would have you believe. The standard of living is much higher on average in Taiwan than China, because they're not fucking communists.
>GPU mudflinging
Who cares, this is the only thing I'm interested in since you can't overclock a Broadwell-E past 4.0ghz on air. What's the point of all those GUTS if you can only get marginal performance increases?
>>339614063
>Republic of China
>Not China
>>339613873
Shit, youre right If these benchmarks are more or less accurate then AMD is hopefully gonna take back a bunch of the market
Thats pretty fucking insane though
Shit its scary to think the 970 is nearly obselete even though its still a beefin 1080p card
>>339614176
Anyone who overclocks on air is already a retard
>>339614086
>20c
>>339613825
Oh don't you know? It's summer!
>>339614132
Resolution?
>>339614271
so 90% of all overclockers
>>339614291
Im from newzealnd, we're heading into winter
I drink Pepsi because its has a smoother finish than Coke
>its fucking cola
This is what you niggers sound like
>tfw upgrading to this from a 7870
Life is swell, lads.
So what's /v/ gonna be like when it turns out that AMD hype is just hype as it usually is? What if their $200 card performs exactly how you'd expect a $200 card to work?
>tfw still using a 750
>tfw don't feel there is even a reason to upgrade
>>339614541
>implying
I'd rather have one good Coke than two shitty Pepsis
>>339614271
The point is the thermal headroom for overclocking is low. A custom-loop watercooling setup can only do so much if it cant get far on air.
Hell on sandy bridge you can easily do a stable 5.0ghz on air if you're feeling dangerous.
>>339614715
m-man i really hope this happens! why are you guys even considering betraying nvidia grrrr
>>339614541
a 4$ 500ml coke is better than 2 $2 200ml peppsi's
>>339614773
>>339614773
>>339610906
How is it not impressive? You can't buy a 970 for 200 dollars retard.
>>339613196
>Division still looks and runs like shit on a GTX 1080 at 4K.
>Visuals still look like a fucking Ps2 game on 1080p
Massive is fucking retarded.
>>339614715
>What if their $200 card performs exactly how you'd expect a $200 card to work?
>benchmarks already out
>>339614864
And there we go
Even the mere suggestion of AMD doing something wrong is enough to send a fanboy into a fit about scary Nvidia.
>>339614715
They'll defend it anyway. AMD users are like a cult at this point.
You should never get attached to a company, you buy what you need and what you think is best at the moment. If their new card is better than the 1080, I may get it.
And the delusion that they're willing compete with themselves just to compete with another company is insane, because that company can just lower the price a bit and make it so that they're only competing with themselves. No modern company should be allowed to be that stupid.
>>339615026
Artificial benchmarks.
So whats your excuse for not getting the völkgrafikverarbeitungseinheit?
>>339615145
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>339610685
>>339609969
You AMD bro?
>>339614257
AMD is *ahem* shitting on nvidia. If there's even bit of headroom for overclock, it might reach close to 1070.
I wonder how those people who bought 1070 would feel then.
>>339610423
prove what?
>enjoy your unoptimized games Nvidiots
>>339615157
What the fuck are you even implying anymore
>>339612317
i have my 280 for 2 years and 0 problems for me as well
>>339615354
>I wonder how those people who bought 1070 would feel then.
They don't give a shit, they would pay $500 more for marketing alone. Nvidiafags are literally the Mac users of the PC gaming world.
>>339615243
What?
I currently have a 980 and I'm looking to upgrade in a year, and I will buy the better card when they've both been out for a bit. Though I'm pretty happy with Shadowplay, AMD do anything similar?
>nvidia boss
>TIME TO HEAT UP
>>339614324
>It's summer
Oh shit I forgot.
Jeez, all this back and forth shit throwing about an additional 1-3 fps.
So, what do I buy in August when I upgrade my computer.
![9841c660bdbe2bb4b4d151d1fe6dcb32[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/R7wN6nv.jpg "9841c660bdbe2bb4b4d151d1fe6dcb32[1].jpg")
>>339615354
>amd
>overclock
>>339615536
>Though I'm pretty happy with Shadowplay, AMD do anything similar?
windows 10 has a built in DVR system, i always found GFE to be a laggy sack of shit.
>>339615536
>AMD do anything similar?
Raptr has had h.264 recording functionality since 2014, I assume with the new GPUs they'll have h.265 since it has an upgraded encoding block
>>339614765
750ti here. I feel ya.
>970 and 980 meme cards are not powerful enough to run 2016 games like Quantum Break at Ultra on 1080p, beyond 30FPS and they shit themselves on 4K.
>R9 and Fury are not only expensive they also don't give you a good performance on AAA games anymore, you can only hope 60FPS at 1080p poorfag resolution on console ports on high, but not ultra.
>980ti feels gimped compared to the GTX 1080 which shocker has a shit performance on 4K too
>Differences between high and low settings in shit games like the Division and The Witcher 3 are so miserable, low on 750 and high on a 970 meme card make no difference.
>Texture popping and draw distance are still an issue in all of them.
>PC games are divided in those you need a high end card for stable 59FPS or those you could run on at least medium settings on a 750ti anyhow.
>VR is still not worth a pig's spit
The thing is that we have gone back to the time where console ports running on shit hardware require 3x the resources on PC. It may only be worth it for games like Total War.
Might as well call it a monopoly since AMD hasn't been competing for years now...especially with the CPU market.
>>339615680
AMD. Anything else is plain and utter consumerism for children.
>>339615354
Hahaha fuck thatd be great
I wanna see what kind of shit nVidia are gonna pull now to try and compete with amd
>nVidia try to compete with AMD
never htought id hear that
>>339615684
>implying the heat meme for AMD cards is still relevant
>>339615684
My 7950 gets about 25% OC.
So I'd say its a good overclock. On the other hand, the 1070/1080 has about 10-15% overhead before voltage limit hits.
If we assume at the very least, a 10% OC room for 480, this would put it near 980ti, which is what 1070 is at. So yeah, thats what I mean by being close to 1070.
Fury was an exception due to it being limited in clock and locked voltage. As it was supposed to be on 20nm node instead of 28, they miscalculated.
WAIT HOLD THE PHONES
ARE YOU MEANING TO TELL ME
ARE YOU ACTUALLY
TRYING TO TELL ME
TECHNOLOGY BECOMES CHEAPER AND MORE POWERFUL OVER TIME???
.....woah
>>339614765
>running a GT 830m
>see all these kids complaining about how 970 is becoming obselete
>still manage to run most games at high on 40 fps
>boy do i wish i had a 760 even
>>339615967
Yes and the nvidiots are in full denial mode.
>>339615865
Interesting, always ran Nvidia, but I haven't upgraded in three years.
AMD finally catch up?
>>339611379
390x beats out 980 in recent benches.
Meanwhile 970 is left in the dust.
>>339615529
>Nvidiafags are literally the Mac users of the PC gaming world.
This.
There are some advantages for getting an nVidia but the noticeable ones (like PhysX) dont justify the price
>>339615813
Who is the retard who wrote that article?
Two RX 480 $249 cards out perform the $799 GTX 1080 significantly, and you don't need anything larger than a 550 PSU.
>But I can SLI TWO GTX 1080, HA HA HA LOOK AT MY MISERABLE RETURNS FOR $1,600 USD!
No one is gonna run TWO fucking GTX 1080.
Nvidia shills are on suicide watch.
>>339615813
>AMD not competing in high end until October
>Nvidia not competing in midrange until October
It's called a duopoly
Seems like a decent GPU for the budget segment. Last AMD GPU I had died on me so I'm kind of wary going AMD again. But $200 is pretty much the impulse level of buy. My 680 will last me a year or two more I reckon.
>>339616341
Exactly familia.
>>339616131
Unless you bought 980ti, AMD was pretty competitive at every price point.
Fury couldn't take advantage of its new architecture soon enough, this allowed 980ti to boost past it.
As for anything below 980ti was competively priced by AMD (cheaper option but equal or better)
>8gb ram
>256-bit bus
What's the point?
>>339610075
The 490 will be weaker. Aimed towards laptops and consoles.
>>339616701
inb4 bites
>>339616625
Newer texture compression algorithms and the fact that the clock speed has been increased to 8Gbps will mitigate memory performance issues. It's not like this card is meant for 4K or 5K resolution anyway.
I'm getting a 1070 and there isprobablysomething you can say to change my mind.
>>339616014
555m here. Still managed to play MGS5 on medium and a slightly lower res.
>>339616501
>cheaper
except that buying AMD allows for next to no overclocking opportunities since their 280x and 380x cards run hotter than my asscrack in the middle of summer while wearing petticoats
no im serious itd increase my electric bill by almost $15 a year over my nvidia card from just the card its self, not even including cooling along with amd being gimped half the time when nvidia gameworks is used
no thanks
When is the 1070 coming out? I got a big paycheck coming next friday and I need to replace my dead 7950.
>>339616783
>Newer texture compression algorithms
This doesn't come up very often. Did AMD announce any new ones?
>amd
>$199 sub 200 card
>better than gtx 970 and almost at 980 levels
>2x crossfire for under $400 better than $600 1080 nvidia flagship
>half gpu load from amd vs 90%+ from 1080
>vega amd flagship not even released
>mid tier shitter amd cards beating nvidia
Should I be worried? Was going to buy a 1080 card but not sure if I should wait for vega or something now
>>339616831
I know you're a retarded troll but lets straighten this out.
The term is called "aftermarket coolers". They outnumber reference models by a large margin.
Do nvidia and AMD come here to shill their shit or there is a legit manchild fight about nvidia vs amd?
>>339616820
Best thing about gaming on a laptop is that 1366x768 is standard more or less so 830m can keep up without that weird downscale blurryness
>>339617038
It's /v/
It's a literal man child shit throwing slug fest.
>>339616967
Its up to you on how you spend it. Whether you want "pure" performance or go for one of the best bang/buck since 4870.
>>339616967
>Crossfire
Why? Dual GPU set ups always suck dick and crossfire is even worse somehow than SLI.
>>339617038
It's the shills.
It's a literal shill fighting slug fest
>>339609240
cant 1080p60fps most of recent games with this?
>>339616831
>$15 electric bill a month from gpu alone
Stop living in shitty favelas of brazil you poorfag and move to a 1st world nation
>complaining about $15 a year
>so buys a $200 more expensive card
>will take 30 years to pay off the price difference alone with the savings from the electric bill
faggot
nvidiots everyone
>>339617038
People will fight when they don't care. People will fight for the other side to be ironic. People will fight for their own side pretending to false flag behind three layers of irony.
Nothing on this site is fucking real anymore
>>339611480
Are you retarded or just started living in a human society? Because money. I'm astounded that I have to actually say this obvious answer to you.
>>339617316
Considering you can 1080p60fps most recent games on a 750ti, the 480 will definitely do it.
>>339617154
You say it like youve used SLI/Crossfire
Very few games that AREN'T in beta/early access perform worse on dual card setups
and hey for that price point isnt disabling a card for those few games worth it?
>>339617154
Im just saying if AMD shitter mid range cards in 2x corssfire can beat the Nvidia 1080 flagship in performance and price, despite the shitty crossfire support, then Nvidia is in trouble especially since the AMD flagship Vega cards havent even been released yet.
>>339613442
>>339613720
>>339613153
i live in las vegas and my first pc build was with a fx-8320 and 7950. i left my computer on overnight and it almost gave me a heat stroke.
i also had to put a HUGE fucking fan next to my pc whenever i played bf4 because it would overheat.
fuck amd
>>339617379
Wait for 2x more years when game will look the same run on the same consoles but will have minimum requirements like a GTX 1080 for some reasons
Ehhh looking forward to the 1070. I've been using ATI/AMD since my first build in 04 so I'm going to try out Nvidia this time around.
>>339609240
BTFO with what?
The 1070 is going to be $350 and beats a Titan X
AMD are one generation behind.
Lets not even go into the 1080...
>>339616797
why? if you're set on spending $400+ on a graphics card go for the 1070. if you're looking to save money or don't have that budget for a 1070 get a 480.
>>339616831
>380x cards run hotter than my asscrack in the middle of summer while wearing petticoats
not true at all. the 380x running in my other build runs as cool as the CPU which is only being cooled by a hyper 212. you probably have a shitty case or simply have no idea what you're talking about.
That 256-bit bus makes me anxious
Are the new drivers affecting anyone elses cards yet? My 980ti is getting 20 less FPS in my modded Skyrim now.
>>339616797
We have one benchmark from AMD about 480, thats the 3dmarks. The results align naturally with real world results. 1080>TitanX>980ti>FuryX>Fury>980>390X>970
The results also show that the 480 will be in between Fury and 980.
Third, the difference between Fury and 980ti is about 15%. If the 480 OC to 15%, on a 1:1 basis, they would be at 980ti level.
If you look at a comprehensive benchmark, 1070 is roughly 980ti level, however it overclocks worse at only 10-15%, where as 980ti oc ~25%
With a small 15% OC, the $200 RX480 card could theoretically match the $380/450 GTX 1070.
This is just my guesstimation/theory, without solid benchmarks it cant be sure. But this is just my handle on this card vs 1070. You pay roughly 200% the price of RX480 and get maybe 10-15% better performance.
>>339609240
>199$ worth of shit > 400$ worth of pure gaming
lol, ok
Let the poor people buy their shitty AMD cards and let them learn from their mistakes while nobody gives a shit about AMD.
Nvidia makes the best graphic cards in the world and the 1080 blows everyone away for the next 5 years or so while providing excellence in support while AMD users lose performance in new games as soon as they come out due to incompetent drivers.
>get fallout 4
>amd drivers are fucked
>get just cause 3
>amd drivers are fucked
>get doom
>amd drivers are fucked
>get dark souls 3
>runs fine
3 out of the 4 new games I've bought at release since I've bought an r9 390 have had shit drivers. Going back to nvidia.
>>339617528
Damn dude that sucks
The only thermal throttling issue I had was with laptops than have AMD cpu and gpu
ALL my friends desktops have been fine
they overclock
they stick it in a corner with no ventilation
I must bbe doing something right because i built them all and they never had a problem
>>339617601
And so the death of Maxwell begins, in order to boost the 1070/1080 numbers.
>>339617038
Only AMD comes here on /v/ to shill their shitty GPUs, everyone who actually plays games on PC all buys Nvidia because they are the best.
>People unironically get AMD
It's like you want to play games at cinematic 24 fps.
>>339617734
>death of maxwell to boost 1080 1070 sales
what
>>339617835
>he fell for the 3.5 meme card
kek
>>339617601
Sorry goy, I mean customer, to maintain The Way It's Meant To Be Played Performance™ you must upgrade to an Nvidia Geforce Pascal™ based graphics card.
>>339617883
>Implying you didn't get the 980Ti
What are you? Poor?
>>339617571
neither has released their new design chips yet, these cards are obsolete on old tech
next year will be pretty sweet
>>339617601
>modded
One of your mods is definately causing the problem
Unless vanilla runs shit
In that case claim warranty on 980
But go through your mods 1 by 1 on a fresh save and see which one is breaking the game
It might not even be your gpu it might be your processor
>>339617870
Driver gimping of Maxwell to make Pascal look like more of an improvement.
>being loyal to a brand
>not just picking the most powerful card based on benchmarks similar to your own setup (resolution, CPU etc) within your budget
>>339618153
What's the point? Nvidia always wins and at least they care about gaming unlike AMD.
I bought a 3,5GB VRAM card since the HD 7870 just didn't do it anymore last December and I seriously hope they release a 480X in the 300~350€ region, because I'd immediately buy one if the tests are good (which seems highly possible if the 480 is anything to go by).
>>339614052
OH SHIT! Look at the length of that fucking bar! GPUOTY
>>339618153
I'd love to do that but pesky things like drivers and optimization get in the way
>>339616797
Motherboards with DDR4, and NEW PCI-E 4.0 slots are bound to next year, along with ZEN and rumored new shit from Intel, and with it a GTX 1070ti, probably.
>>339611778
What card is the first Polaris supposed to be?
>>339618198
>What's the point? Nvidia always wins and at least they care about gaming unlike AMD.
yeah i love when they release gameworks features that absolutely shit all over my framerate, nvidia are truly gods and i love jerking off over benchmarks instead of real time performance.
>muh DX12 synthetic benchmarks
No I am not getting Windows 10 you shills
And there are no DX12 games that are worth it, NAME ONE
>>339618604
>yeah i love when they release gameworks features that absolutely shit all over my framerate
AMD fag spotted.
Rise of The Tomb Raider runs at a solid 60fps in DX12 with most settings on high.
On my 970.
>>339616416
Post more delicious brown.
>>339618837
>Rise of The Tomb Raider runs at a solid 60fps in DX12 with most settings on high.
>most
>>339617579
I don't understand why both AMD and Nvidia won't try to focus on the bus and make it larger.
>>339619194
Let me guess your pathetic AMD card can only run it on low.
>>339618837
And runs flawlessly on highest setting dx12 on the 390
>>339618604
>gameworks features that absolutely shit all over my framerate
you know i keep hearing about this but it hasnt happened to me yet. either those settings are disabled and grayed out, or they simply dont impact the framerate
i have a 380x by the way. shame its never on benchmark pictures. its pretty good
>>339618746
>And there are no DX12 games that are worth it, NAME ONE
Ashes of the Singularity
>>339617686
jc3 was a bad port and ran like shit on most setups
doom, fo4 and ds3 ran just fine for me
>>339619475
>mediocre
>strategy game
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/ashes-of-the-singularity
Kek
>>339616929
June 10th
>>339617640
Hold up son.
There are two of them cards.
The C5 and C7. I don't believe the boosted C5 RX 480 will be even in the 980ti territory, that is really a street away from the 1070 performance which is marginally better than the 980ti, and that would be incredible.
I don't think any of them actually get as near to be in the 980ti position.
And raw power in practice does not mean much, we all know a lot of devs use Nvidia libraries and other shit, and the performance of PC games have been fucking garbage.
See Quantum Break up there. The fucking GTX 1080 cannot get it to 60 FPS stable at 1080p.
Games like the Division still look like utter garbage on a GTX 1080 and have shit performance too.
At this point the problem is on the DEV area.
A GTX 1070 might be a mistake because optimization will be shit anyhow and no one will make the most of the card. It only enables people for shit VR and 4K meme resolution that does not hold 30 FPS most of the time.
If you play on a 1080p monitor on the standard 60Hz you don't need a GTX 1070. The Rx 480 is a poorfag God send like the 750ti that enables people to be on the 980 area.
>>339619475
do you need dx12 for that?
>>339619260
Is there any need?
>>339619595
>Using metasjwcritic as a valid source of information
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/gone-home-console-edition
Grasping at straws are we?
Nvidia shills on suicide watch.
>>339617363
Some people aren't as poor as you
>>339619856
but I dont own Nvidia, fuckboi, I am saying DX12 is a fucking meme and way to move the goalposts and post ad hominem when your argument was shat on
Strat games are shit, that game is shit, and no one needs DX12 for a shit strat game
Next
>>339619675
>https://www.techpowerup.com/223043/amd-radeon-rx-480-clock-speeds-revealed-clocked-above-1-2-ghz
C7 is already confirmed to be 480, the other C4 is a lower end 470 most likely
The raw performance brings the card to about 5.8 tflops going by the screenshot. But you're right, raw performance doesn't mean much without context. This generation's card are die shrinks and new architecture, atleast for AMD. Nvidia might simply be a die shrink, as they dont seem to see much benefit.
If we assume the IPC is same, then it would be natural to assume the performance would scale appropriately. However we can't really say thats true, it could very well be the IPC is worse. So I'll just leave it at that.
>>339609240
Nvidia will release 1060 , at same pricepoint , it should have similar performance, around 980. Only thing though, that 1060 is rumored to be only 4gb. If its true then 480 is arguable better future buy.
>>339609240
Are they selling at a loss?
>>339620176
Of course they are.
At this point AMD will do anything to get people to buy their shit cards
>>339620273
What's the point then? It's not like consoles where they do it to win marketshare and make the sales pay off long term with XBOX Live/PS Plus and overpriced games
>just ordered a GTX 970SLI
>got them £200 cheaper because I'm friends with the guy who builds PCs
How fucked am I? Bearing in mind I don't play anything that is really demanding, just strategy games, Mount and Blade and old school RPGs.
>>339619946
I'm not poor neither was that the point of my post. Feeling better yet?
>>339620104
I fucked up, I thought the $199 was the C4, I see there is the 480 and the 480x.
The X is the 250 one that rumored to be between the Fury and 980 but could even be the 480 which would be incredible.
I am glad I did not buy the 960.
>>339620273
>Of course they are.
Source: my ass
>>339620515
I can only ask you why do you need 2 970 for that in the first place
Regardless how you feel about AMD, you have to admit their cards are way better looking than NVidia's
>>339620414
Because AMD are losing a lot of share on the PC scene.
A lot of people have started buying Intel + Nvidia for everything over AMD as recently their performance has been pretty poor.
People are quick to point the finger elsewhere but don't look at their own hardware. AMD really are shit now and a generation behind.
>>339620632
480X probably wont be released for a while. There's generally (but not always as future is unpredictable) a few months between X80 and X80X releases. So maybe October is the time for 480X release, my guess.
It would make no sense to show a benchmark of 480X but then release 480.
>>339620515
How powerful is a 970 sli build anyhow? I am gonna assume you did your homework.
Last time I lurked that up you don't even get the full performance of the second card, but that was a long time ago.
How do SLI and crossfire perform now?
So, the RX 480 will be physically somewhat small right? My R9 285 needs updating but my mATX case has limited space.
