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What's your honest thoughts on this game 9 months later?
STANDING
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEAAAAAAAATTTTTTTEEEEEERR
>>339590243
never played it because smells of bullshit too much, Kojima is not the same without Fukushima (MGS2)
>>339590243
I liked it. It was good.
WHOA HOOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHH
>Volgin just gets randomly run over and dies
>>339590243
The best and most polished gameplay in the series, accompanied by the least effectively executed story and the absence of things that made MGS, MGS(good and many boss battles, codec conversations, hardly any cutscenes).
>>339590243
I kind of want to delete my save and start over again. But I'm not quite there yet.
I was enjoying the shit out of it whilst I was playing it. It was only after I finished it and took a step back to reflect when I realized how flawed it is.
So yeah, I want to give it another chance very soon.
>>339590243
Disappointment
I stopped playing it during the mission where you save the kids.
I don't even know why Konami and KojiPro thought that making this game was a good idea.
>>339590243
It was a decent game, but it was an incredibly disappointing Metal Gear Solid game.
>>339590243
It's missing shit.
But is still incredible.
>>339590243
Great game, I put 220 hours into it. But it is so obviously missing content once you reach chapter 2. I still hope they will release some kind of add-on once people have reached nuclear disarmament (I know it won't happen).
I had a blast playing it, but I'm still annoyed that it isn't the game that we were promised. I am really glad that I decided to finally go back and play Peace Walker just before it came out, since knowing to expect Peace Walker 2 really helped put me in a better mood for the grindy, repetitive mission structure than if I had expected it to play like Snake Eater.
Couldve been the greatest game ever if the company wasnt jew. Though it wouldve probably been released next year if so.
>>339590243
I loved the shit out of it right untill it abruptly ended way too early.
>>339590962
I'm still fucking pissed that the other trailer songs aren't in the game anywhere. I don't want to hear about it being anachronistic- Way to Fall was written in 2001 and it was still a perfect theme song for Snake Eater. You know what's fucking anachronistic? A goodamn remote-controlled rocket punch fired from the back of D-Walker. Hearing Nuclear while doing it wouldn't bother me.
Fantastic stealth game with loads of polish and overall a joy to fucking play, and also at times really stunning with the scope of what it accomplishes.
As far as the story goes it barely fucking has one which is really the only gripe I have with the game.
>>339590243
unfinished game
needed atleast another 2 years
>>339592346
On reflection, I can't bring myself to solely blame Konami for pulling the plug anymore. It's clear that Kojima was pissing away funds on stupid shit that didn't need to be in the game. FOBs were an absolutely terrible idea, this version of MGO was absolutely awful, and I'll bet all the licensed music that didn't add anything to the game didn't come cheap.
>>339592563
Snake Eater was actually going to have Space Oddity and then Ashes to Ashes by David Bowie for the credits, but that was in the first design doc when the game was legitimately about the space race and not the arms race.
It's why The Fury is in there and there's that really weird fucking bit about The Boss going into space for some reason.
>>339592719
>licensed music that didn't add anything to the game
Someone didn't blast their way across the bridge with a rocket launcher while Rebel Yell was playing.
Or strangle a guard and force him to slow dance to True.
or mount a daring escape from a full alert base while Love Will Tear Us Apart is playing
desu one of the best stealth games ever
Between this and the new Hitman it's been a really great time for stealth games.
>>339590243
A great game that blows it's load way too early and then jerks you around for another twenty hours with no pay off
Nostalgia was completely left behind. Almost zero fan service, poor story development. Poor character development.10/10 game play tho.
>tfw no The times they are a-changin' in the soundtrack
I think it would have been a good fit
>>339593129
>No Africa by toto to listen to in Africa
blew it big time
undertale was literally better
Rising is the real MGS5
>>339590243
best stealth game i have ever played but story was an unfinished shit and there was no character development at all
>>339592729
Sucks because it still could have been about both with Volgin's faction trying to launch nuclear equipped satellites.
>>339593221
>not listening to Take on me while playing Kaz in Africa
Only yourself to blame
I think you mean peacewalker, quite literally.
Really sucky game. Too repetitive. Shit bosses. Awful story. Cringeworthy characters like Skullface and Quiet.
>>339593427
Meant for
>>339593287
>>339593501
Peace Walker is the literally who of the series and isnt even mandatory to play, it was better off not even being made.
It does have good waifus though, and two decent songs.
I don't know if my game has a bug or something but I can't get to the White Mamba mission. Help pls
- Fantastic gameplay and controls
- Not enough story
- braindead as fuck AI
- Open world too big and sparse to justify having it
- indoor environments not used effectively enough
- Clearly unfinished
- Story shoved on tapes
- Mother base literally wasted space
To be fair I've put around 300 hours into it and honestly the games is 7/10, just average for the experience that was presented. It took too much from other open world games where you just do little shit on the map
If they condensed the game as a linear but more open levels like GZ maybe we could've had better level design to take advantage of the the tight controls
>>339590243
It still hurts.
My life was so much better before it was released.
It's been nothing but downhill ever since.
only thing i would change about the single player is removing the idea of "chapters" then remove all of the copy pasted missions.
add a new game+ where every mission is either total stealth, extreme, or subsistence
>>339593596
Definitely mandatory to play. nice bait though.
>>339590243
I am still thoroughly disappointed.
>>339592729
I always thought that was weird.
Where's that picture that has bowie and mgs characters or whatever I've heard about it but never seen it.
WE HAVE TO BUILD A NUKE AND MAKE CIPHER PAY FOR IT
>>339590243
Should have been aborted just like any unwanted kid.
The gameplay was enjoyable.
Chapter 1 was fine.
Chapter 2 sucked.
The new characters did not anything worthwhile to the series or story as a whole and merely existed to die out of place with the franchise.
The story is fucking retarded even for MGS standards, especially the "twist." Game should have been about Big Boss's fall from grace because we have still not seen him take a real turn for the worse towards the Metal Gear 1 and 2 Big Boss.
Also MGO is trash.
Metal Gear Solid died after 3.
>>339593596
t. pcuck
Robin Atkin Downes greatest performance to date.
>>339594005
Half of 4 was pretty good desu.
>>339593925
Fuck, Trump posters never fail to make me chuckle
A non-white raceWill not set foot on mother base
>>339593732
There's mods that can do that, look around the Nexus.
About mid way through I thought the features and content would never stop rolling in, but after finishing it it seems surprisingly barren because a lot of things don't pan out, such as Battle Gear and quarantining soldiers.
>>339594109If it's a coon, I'll shoot the balloon.
>>339594109You're going to extract him?
>>339593809
Its only mandatory if you want to understand GZ/TPP, which arent really mandatory either
MGS4 covered everything that actually matters, the rest is footnotes.
>>339594109
If it's Al-bed, make the streets run red.
It's still great. I like the idea of maintaining your FOB against other people online and that there's always a reason to go out and farm for resources. The versatility in all the shit you get really helps keep the game fun as well, and it's one of the best control schemes I've ever had in any game...im still having fun
All of the big boss games were a mistake.
>>339594343
what are you, the loremaster of mgs or something?
Kojima will make e3 great again this year
>>339590243
Gameplay wise I liked it, even though the missions started to feel repetitive half-way through. Thought the sneaking was fun without any marker help.
Story wise.. I'm still surprised how they managed to make it boring as fuck and anger inducing cancer at the same time. Everything about the dialogue and storytelling just felt so watered down from what I was expecting. The cutscenes were really well done, and the character emotion was sick as shit (Miller had really good acting for example), but there just wasn't any sustenance to back it all up.
All in all, an utter shit Metal Gear Solid game, but still an okay game on its own.
I still haven't finished it
All the missions fucking suck except the story ones, especially the repeat ones
Building mother base was pretty rad tho
Infiltrating other bases was also pretty rad
Not being able to do missons/boss fights with other players sucks
Game wasn't a massive let down but still could have been a lot better
Gameplay was good, but I personally didn't enjoy it.
I hyped it up too much for myself, I went through and played every game again in anticipation for the game, I had watched the trailers a hundred times, but the game didn't even feel like it was a fucking MGS game.
Went in with zero expectations thanks to all the shitposting and because I got it off Amazon for like 12 yurodollars. Was pleasantly surprised but still saddened by the wasted potential
>>339593668
No one puts 300+ hours into a game they think is just decent. I don't understand why people feel the need to constantly decry a games quality when they clearly played the shit out of it
I might like the gameplay better than any other game I've ever played. Perfectly executed stealth that gives you a great deal of freedom in mission execution.
The story was disappointing though, and the missing third act was inexcusable.
>>339590243
It was definitely FUN. But with a METAL GEAR game its hard to be wholly happy on gameplay alone. Certainly the game is memorable but for all the wrong reasons (YOU FEEL IT TOO DON'T YOU).
I like it, but then again, there isn't a Metal Gear game I've played that I actually dislike.
It's weird though, 4 still seems like the end-point to the series.
>>339596496
Because it is.
Prequels are just filler.
>>339590243
Great gameplay. Took what MGS4 did right and improved on it.
Awkward storyline.
At least we get MGO3 out of it.
>>339595606
I only completed MGSV out of a feeling of obligation.
I gave up on it somewhere around the 20 hour mark.
>>339596747
I have yet to see people talk about MGO3 on /v/ once.
Worst main series Metal Gear Solid game by a landslide.
It's fucking empty and while it offers a lot of weapons and cool stuff you never get the chance to use them on something to have fun.
The plot is a steaming mess, Kojima tried once again to take clues from his friend that is now dead (project Itoh) and messed up the idea that the guy explored in his book (genocidal organ - language as a killing element).
Seriously, look it up, Kojima got almost every idea of his from his personal friend, project Itoh, a sci-fi writer who is now dead. Kojima is a worthless writer on his own.
>MGSV Gameplay
>Good
>>339596869
probably because you weren't here when it released idiot
Good gameplay
Shitty bosses
No story
you fags do this every month and every month its gunna be the same fuckibg answer
>>339596915
What a God damn waste of time it all was.
Great engine and great potential wasted.
>>339596986
>>339597068
>tried to tell a story while having very little story content
>PW style missions, despite being intended for console/PC
>nice graphics, at least in some regards
>felt really soulless, didn't have the same level of detail as other games in the series
>nice gameplay, but it didn't feel like metal gear
That's about it.
>>339597131
>>339596747
It's a shame MGO3 has such a low playerbase, at least on PS4. I don't know how it fares on PC.
>>339596986
>mfw Blacklist rekts MGSV in terms of gameplay and controls
>>339597197
except you get volunteers regardless of your playstyle...
STARRING:
SKULLFACE as SKULLFACE
VOLGIN as VOLGIN
and
THE METAL GEAR SHESHENANTROPUS
Oh boy i sure love having the level spoiled because you want it to feel like a fucking tv series, you hack.
It was shit, 2deep4me garbage
>>339592719
Remember the Metal Gear Collection?
Remember how we expected a game and got a fashion line instead?
What a fucking joke, Kojima is big time to blame for a lot of this shit.
bretty okay
would've been nice if the story was betteri miss quiet
Some days ago i turned on my PS3, and damn, the version of this game looks incredible on a last gen console.
>>339590243
It's ok. I liked the plot and the ending. Gameplay left much to be disired and side missions were shit.
It was a huge disappointment.
It was also still probably the best game I've played in half a decade.
The trailers were second to none, but looking back at 4 and PW I kind of realize that I expected too much of Silver Age MGS.
I'm glad MGSV was a dissapointment because it destroyed one of the most autistic fanbases to ever grace this board, and I got to see those autists cry daily for 9 months.
>>339597463
>this looks like a simple mission,I won't need lethal weapons
>guest starring:Skulls Parasite unit
this was really shitty way to tell me I fucked up
>>339597463
STARRING:
QUIET
VENOM "NOT BIG BOSS" SNAKE
THE REAL BIG BOSS
THE SKULLS "PARASITE" UNIT
STREBENOV REBEDEBEV
METAL GEAR
LIQUID SNAKE
TANK UNIT 1
TANK UNIT 2
HELICOPTER
AND THE ENEMY SNIPER
>>339591095
He doesnt
Play more
>>339598858
You're right. He shows up in a later cutscene where he does nothing and then dies.
CAMP OMEGA DLC
A-ANY DAY NOW
No but seriously why the fuck haven't they released it for the main game? Going back to GZ after TPP is fucking terrible, you can really tell how rushed out it is. Controls are loose as fuck by comparison, no knock, no roll, and a punch of unpolished shit like Snake's arm just clipping right through people when you carry them.
>>339599446
Camp Omega has far better lvel design than anything in TPP though.
>>339593406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZY7QCBMWoE
What's his name?
>>339599728
I never said it didn't.
>>339599910
Kazuhira "attach the coon to the balloon" Miller?
>>339599728
I personally can't see how considering GZ is just one base while TPP has a bunch
Core Gameplay was very good, everything felt smooth and natural and Snake controlled very well. The actual sneaking was great, especially if you played without reflex or markers like I (and I assume most other MGS fans) did.
Story was blatantly unfinished and added nothing to the story other than filling a plothole that wasn't even an issue to begin with. Almost completely lacked what made the other MGS games so great in the first place.
Open world was pointless and empty
Online features were bad, MGO was a trainwreck from day one.
Mission structure was bland, grindy and repetitive, most missions had nothing to do with the story and while the game technically has much more content than most other games in the series it has much less substance because of this. While the type of structure works for portable games and side series it simply doesn't work as a finale for one of the greatest game series in history. Despite all it's issues (and there are plenty) MGS4 would have served as a much better closer to the series.
>>339600523
Massive empty open world =/= good level design. Camp Omega was far better designed than any of the outposts in MGSV
>>339601738
it's not empty, it's full of bases and side ops to do.
>Camp Omega was far better designed than any of the outposts in MGSV
eh
>>339601913
It's full of tiny outposts, actual content is few and far between and the missions and side ops lack any sort of variety. Give me one example of a mission from TPP that was on the level of GZ.
>>339602070
most of the missions took place in an area about as large as GZ, and again the variety comes from all the different ways you can approach them
>>339590243
I will never forgive the fucking nips for this, the Americans should've dropped a third one.
Not my pic but I did it. It was fun.
I only started playing recently because of the Steam sale and i was wondering,
why Snake barely talk?
Feels like he's mute for the player to better self insert or something.
>>339602173
who needs level design when you have rocket hands and 5 different versions of the same assault rifle
>>339602707
yeah that was the idea. Too bad it didn't really work, snake just looks like a confused autist
>>339602710
sure
Honestly the most forgettable MGS game I've ever played. The gameplay was excellent and well polished but everything else from the story, characters, and settings are so bland and forgettable. It's really a shame. It was a huge step back from what people really loved about the series.
>>339590243
Wasn't as good as I hoped it would be.
Still, I sank over 100 hours into that game and I'll definitely give it a replay sometime this year. Still better than MGS4 and 2, worse than PW though.
>>339590243
Fun gunplay, Fox engine was nice and the graphics to sound design were top notch. The story was fucking stupid and I'm not even butthurt about it being unfinished because I had my fill of s l o w t a l k i n g w o l b a c h i a m a n. I was sad that it wasn't heavy on the gun porn like MGS4 was, but being able to make your own custom guns helped.
Fun at first, but rushed and heavily flawed. would've been better if they didn't have to focus on the open world imo, and had better missions like GZ. Probably also could've been better if they just never mentioned what was cut.
I got burned out before finishing, dunno when/if I'll go back. I'm under the impression that gameplay wise its not worth it.
On the brightside, the disappointment of the main game really lowered really lowered my expectations for MGO, otherwise I'd probably be salty about that too.
>>339603004
Agreed. They somehow managed to make it still over the top, but it's over the top in a really understated boring way.
Then again, I'm also willing to accept that I'm older and have been playing the series for a long time and I'm desensitized to it's zany action now.
Venom Snake was far too quiet and didn't question things as much as I'd have liked. I mean, once you finish you figure out WHY, but still. I called the big twist coming out the gate and there was never anything to put uncertainty in my mind about it.
The biggest disappointment is that we never got the level editor and the Fox Engine will always be closed source and only available to Konami.
>>339599910
Kazuhira ''Fulton a coon and i'll pop the balloon'' Miller
game would've been slightly better if they didn't show 90% of the cutscenes in trailers already desu
>>339590243
The gameplay was well designed but I'm still disappointed that the series story ended the way it did.
Also it should've had less giant empty map area and more areas like camp omega and okb zero.
>>339602707
He's only mute half the time, the other half he has his own personality.
He's only semi-mute because Kojima watched Mad Max: Fury Road and decided to rip it off, despite the fact that visual storytelling doesn't work when 90% of the cast still yammer away like their life depended on it, and the fact that you still have a lot of scenes that depend on the MC suddenly getting his voice back and saying stuff.
>>339599910
Ku Klux Kaz
>>339600523
It was also a demo. Level quantity =/= level design.
Having shit loads of empty space in between Far Cry outposts isn't good design.
>>339602173
Wow, I can approach from 360 degrees except none of it matters because the base doesn't have any genuine tight design to work my way around.
Should have been game of the generation going by the red band trailer
Instead we were all rused
A 6/10 that could have been a 10/10
>>339603939
Snake being autistic and silent is mostly because of Mad Max 2 and Drive, not Fury Road.
>>339603524
Venom Snake had no personality. The removal of the codec system went a long way in destroying any sort of investment in your main characters. Sure they were clunky in the past games but they were a staple that was sorely missed. The game took itself too seriously.
One of the best games ever made desu
>>339604150
What are you talking about, there's still plenty of stuff to sneak around
>>339604394
Wasn't it only after Kojima watched Fury Road that he started using Mad Max as a reference point?
I cna't remember the chronology of the lead-up to release.
>tfw I used to play through the whole series yearly but V has somehow completely killed the entire series for me and I dont feel like it anymore
They got rid of cutscene for gameplay but like 80% of the gameplay is traveling between locations.
Also does anyone else find this game easy? Maybe it's hard to get an S rank but it is not hard to beat a level
>>339604465
That's because Venom Snake is supposed to be you. It's a clever allegory on the role of player agency in a video game and its story
>>339604514
This honestly
Fuck you /v/, y'all are a bunch of queefs
>>339590243
unimaginable disappointment
>>339604571
>>339604660
This
Game was great and you faggots know it
>>339604571
so, a great game turned you off some other great games?
>>339604657
See:
>>339603939
It's not clever, it's awfully executed and banal.
>>339604518
He said that before he'd even seen Fury Road. Mad Max 2 was his favorite movie for like 30 years.
>>339604792
nah it was fine
Oh look it's another "MGSV is bad thread"
This place is beyond saving
>>339604740
>>339604747
>That obvious samefag.
>>339604823
Then it's odd that he seemingly didn't understand what made it work at all.
>>339604876
>samefag within 6 seconds
uh
>>339604792
>banal
Shut the fuck up queer and get laid.
It lacks story, personality and pacing.
>>339604514
>>339604658
>>339604740
>>339604747
>>339604871
>>339604964
Behold, the shill has arrived.
The worst possible way to end the series. The core gameplay was fine, but it shouldn't have been an open world game. Ground Zeroes' base was cooler and bigger than all of the places you infiltrate in TPP.
The game would've been better if it used Peace Walker's mission select system but with closed and gigantic areas like GZ.
The story was shit, and Volgin, Liquid, Mantis, Ocelot could've been cut and nothing would change. Liquid barely talks, Mantis is mute, Ocelot is an entirely new character and Volgin had no reason to be there besides fanservice.
I did love how they integrated the fact that Peace Walker is the actual MGS5 into the story, with you just playing as your random most talented soldier from that game, and accomplishing pretty much nothing.
Zero and Big Boss are completely out of character, and the only story related moments I can praise are mission 43, and the tape with Paz and Zero, which serves no purpose to this game and only highlights how much more important PW is as far as the canon goes.
>>339604747
I liked V. Nowhere near as much as the rest of the series, but I still liked it. But it killed my interest in the series somehow, and I dont know why.
>>339604986
>BAWWW multiple people disagree with me :((
Literally you
>>339605003
GZ wasn't that big though. They just put the open areas inside the base
>>339605003
Mfinda, OKB Zero and Nova Braga are 1000000% better than GZ
didn't care to read the rest of your retarded opinion
>>339605156
I'd be fine if TPP was like that tough. Make each area closed off, add more details and cool shit into them, let us choose between 3 or 4 infiltration routes, and have more interior sections. Also, let us skip the fucking chopper travels
>>339605370
You have practically unlimited infiltration tactics in TPP
Literally my favorite game ever
Eat my ass /v/
>>339605343
OKB Zero is the only one that comes close. Nova Braga is as basic as babbys first Far Cry 2 custom map and Mfinda is good, but not varied as Camp Omega.
>>339605649
>comes close
Nigger it blows GZ completely out of the water.
Where Do The Bees Sleep annihilates GZ
>>339590289
if this wasn't the first reply id be disapointed
>>339605146
That looks more like you, and every other MGS5 fan in the thread
>how can you not like my favourite game ever!
Garbage
>>339605956
I don't give a shit if you don't like it, it just gives me yet another thing I can enjoy more than the rest of you sorry edgelords. You're shitposting won't change those 10/10 reviews and I will be smug about it until the end of time, stay mad.
>>339590243
It's a good game but they should have axed act 2 and focused on putting some civilians in the world snd making different enemy factions fight eachother.
Then they can sell the finished act 2 as an appendix.
The ai is literally shit. How can anyone defend it
it's shit
gonna pick it up when it's on sale for $7.
>>339607086
You'l have a great time, don't listen to the retards here.
>>339607603
yeah shame the story will be shit. i find it kind of hard to force myself to play a game in a 'cinematic' series like mgs if it has a shit story. so it'll hold my attention for maybe 5 hours and i'll lose patience with how poor the story is. hence why i'll buy it when it's cheap.
>>339590243
Worst in series
One of my favorite games of all time
Gameplay is GOAT. I can't stop playing. Story is ass, but who cares, Kojima was going downhill storywise since 4.
I'm going to laugh my fucking ass off if there really is an epilogue portion after disarmament and you all really were just shit at the game.
It will be the single biggest example of /v/ being moronic and objectively shit at games in the history of this board ever.
Don't fail me Hideo you insane gook.
>>339607721
>story is shit
Entirely a matter of preference and how much you pay attention, all the implications and set ups ARE THERE for the rest of the series if you aren't a lazy fuck. Give it an honest chance.
>>339607874
>Don't fail me Hideo you insane gook.
it's been 9 months anon...
you have accept that there's no more epic ruses sometime.
>>339608010
I mean he is wrong. How can there be a story if there isn't one?
Why are we still here?
Can i play this game if i've only ever played MGS4 ?
It's shit
MGSV fans are beta neckbeards cunts
kys
>>339608208
Just to suffer?
>>339608256
>played
>MGS4
pick one
>>339608294
I'm 160 and 5'11 and moved out of my parents house like 4 years ago you tool.
>kys
Nice edge, why don't you make me?
Competent mechanics hampered by horrible level """""design""""" and without any variety to make the grindy missions bearable.
Horrible story, just like every Metal Gear after 3.
Mediocre graphics with decent lighting, but nothing spectacular.
5/10. Rent it if you want, but there's so many other games out there that are worth your time.
>>339608117
Because events happen to develop a narrative???
>>339595606
>No one puts 300+ hours into a game they think is just decent.
It's because they kept thinking there would be payoff for it, and there wasn't. Who else but someone who spent 200+ hours on a game would be qualified to deem it "just decent"?
It's honesty.
I can watch an entire TV series just to say I did it, and still admit it was trash.
>>339592883
Different anon here
It still don't add anything at all, specially if you play the pc version where you can just use your own mp3 files in game
>>339608567
You're a big guy
>>339590243
GOAT
1000 hours and still going
Try and stop me /v/
+ Nice stealth and open world combination.
+ Amazing weaponry. So many freaking possibilities.
+ All companions feel fleshed out and fun to use
+ Graphically and musically (including the sounds in general) a masterpiece
+ The story that is present in the game is great
- Side missions are fun for the first 2 hours, until you really realize it's just gonna be the same shit repeating 10+ times, with some exceptions.
- Lack of story and the entirety of episode 2
- Open world feels empty and static.
- Driving is somewhat meh
- Fucking Motherbase online aspect is fucking annoying and I never really cared for it and the game just kept stuffing my throat with it
Either a really really strong 7 or weak 8, depending on my mood. The amazing gameplay overall is the best aspect of it, and I really haven't tried a stealth game on par with this, when you're actually doing missions or infiltrating bases. If you're not totally void of any kind of imagination, you'll find thousands of ways to go about the missions, and all sorts of quirky, funny, and surprising things along the way, especially thanks to the huge weaponry and tools you have. Severely dragged down by it clearly missing a lot of development, content, and story.
>>339590243
I'm relieved Kojima won't get to kill Silent Hill more than it is
One of the best games ever made
>>339604657
>clever
Not really.
Woulda been better if Venom turned out to be Chico being slaved into being a Big Boss doppelganger as atonement for his sins. Hence, "Punished Snake".
Instead we got
>Biggest Boss is YOU, the PLAYER! So crever!
>>339591670
>The best and most polished gameplay in the series
end this meme
4 objectively had the best gameplay. It had the best mechanics, the tightest controls, the most weapons and gadgets along with decent level design in the first two acts. The shit they had in act 1 where you were thrown inside the middle of two armies and got to subtly influence the battle to suit you was cool as fuck. The only problem was that there wasn't fucking enough of it.
V was an objective downgrade in every way from 4. While it did fix a lot of 4's problems, like the excessive cutscenes, codecs and lack of gameplay, it went too far in the other direction and padded out the game's length with grinding bullshit and horribly executed attempts at being minimalistic. Don't even get me started on how fucking horrible the open world shit is.
Kojima's a hack, Konami were right
>>339608978
PT was god tier you contrarian faggot.
>>339602707
Keifer Sutherland is more expensive than david Hayater
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>>339591962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlQhklDjIs
>>339592719
Don't forget shit like hiring Surtherland and then axing 95% of his lines. Kojima has no clue how to budget a game himself.
>>339609054
4 didn't have any gameplay though
introduction of the shittiest tierest of waifus
>all these newfags to the stealth genre ITT who think this is the best game ever
Chaos Theory is still the best stealth game ever made.
>>339609190
Good job ignoring everything I said.
The first two acts had a typical MGS balance of cutscenes and gameplay
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>>339609157
Ham
burgerrrr
>>339599910
>>339609141
No he wasn't.
He was also a better Snake than that faggot Hayter ever could be.
His lines in PW and 4 were horrendous.
>I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea, I will always be with you
David could never pull that off, we would get ARGH I WONTT SCATTER ARGH YOUR SORROW UGHH TO THEEE UHHH HEARTLESS SEAA AGHH
>>339609342
not really... even in the most gameplay heavy acts of the game you barely do anything. You don't even need stealth thanks to everyone already fighting each other
>>339609236
I wouldn't be surprised if they'd never played a stealth game outside of Assassins Creed before MGSV.
Compared to shit like Splinter Cell, Death to Spies, Thief and even fucking Dishonoured and Styx it's laughably bad.
>it isn't a good stealth game
>it isn't a good action game
>it isn't a good open world game
What was kojima even trying to do?
>>339590243
Best Gameplay in the series
Worst Story in the Series.
That said, the story is still alright, just really disappointing and doesn't live up the the standards of the earlier games.
>>339609472
t. babby who played on the lowest difficulty
even if that were true, it doesn't change the facts that the base mechanics, level deign and weapon and gadget variety are infinitely better than V
>9months later and still full price
why do those niggers do that
>>339609236
Nah MGSV was better and I played Chaos Theory before you start jumping to conclusions.
>>339609460
Are you seriously saying that Sutherland would agree to the same price for the same amount of dialogue as no-name Hayter?
>>339609139
PT was youtuber bait barely above the 600 fnaf clones.
It had absolutely nothing to do with silent hill.
It did however have a kickass art direction, I'll give it that
>>339609579
>Best Gameplay in the series
no, and even if it was that would mean the other games were horrible
> standards of the earlier games
Yeah, MGS4 and Peace Walker were real narrative masterpieces
>>339609613
it is true.
>>339609713
You are pathetic
>>339609713
A stealth game is nothing without amazing level design, and Chaos Theory's level design >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MGSV's, if you can even say MGSV had level design at all.
>>339609793
so read the other half of the post then you fucking mong
>>339609540
>it isn't a stealth game
You're right, it's a stealth ACTION game, it's literally in the title.
>it isn't an action game
Refer to above
Open World could have been better sure fine.
>>339609853
I disagree
>>339609754
PW was ten times the MGS5 TPP was story wise. It actually led into the other games without a bullshit new villain that was secretly there in MGS3 helping big Boss, and yet another new Snake that Big Boss is somehow OK with despite disliking the other Snakes that Zero also created.
>>339609872
It isn't a good stealth action game either
still my GOTY 2015.
IN THE FATHERS SINS
>>339609897
Peace Walker was laughably terrible m8
>>339609846
CT is just linear scripted hallways. V has more freeform gameplay
>>339609804
You're calling me pathetic because I disagree with you, how ironic!
>>339609846
Nah MGSV>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chaos Theory DESU
>>339609872
No, it wasn't fine. The nicest thing that could be said about it is that it's aggressively mediocre, but when there's so many games out there to play I don't know why you'd waste time playing a mediocre one
>>339609804
take off youe nostalgia goggles, regardless of what you think of mgsv you could beat mgs4 just by lying down on your stomach and crawling through the level even at the boss extreme difficulty.
Everything else is just an action setpiece on rails.
I agree that the controls, gun mechanics and cqc were kick ass and better than they were in mgsv but you barely every used them.
>>339609713
kys (knit your socks)
>>339609940
You're right, it's the BEST stealth action game.
>>339609987
Nah. It had the best cast since MGS1 and the only terrible plot shit was the Boss AI, and even that made sense since it led to BB saying "fuck her, I'll create my own dream" which leads into Outer Heaven. It also elevated Miller as a character. MGSV just took a shit over the entire series and disrespected characers like Liquid, Mantis, Ocelot
>>339610202
this 2bh
>>339610090
Whatever you say mate, I loved V, GOTY 2015 and for the rest of time.
>>339610236
I could go into details about how you're objectively wrong, but it's 1 AM and I want to jerk off then go to bed, so be content in the knowledge that you're retarded
>>339610162
assuming you were talking to me
>I agree that the controls, gun mechanics and cqc were kick ass and better than they were in mgsv
so the mechanics were better and therefore V was not the best in the series in that regard, like I said.
>>339610236
MGSV developed Kaz better as a character than PW ever could.
>>339610489
ehh, I like V but still think that Kaz was wasted.
His best performance was in GZ no doubt
I love it,deleted my save last night for the third time,looking forward to playing it all again
>>339610489
The fact that you call him Kaz already proves how good PW was.
PW is the best written MG game since MGS1.
>>339610489
>>339610236
He didn't need to be developed. There was a character there in the earlier games that was cast aside and replaced with someone completely different in PW and someone completely different again in V.
Just fucking make a new character if you're going to do that shit.
>>339610597
Imma disagree with you but you're still aight in my book anon.
>>339590243
Never bought it, don't really care that I can't pirate it.
>>339610647
That doesn't even make sense.
I played PW and loved V wayyyy more.
>>339610647
>PW is the best written MG game since MGS1.
wew
People call him Kaz because that's what the game forces down your throat. Eveyone keeps saying KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ KAZ instead of Miller. You're fucking dumb if you think that remotely indicates why a game is good. Hell, the fact that his preferred name completely and utterly changes later on is indicative of bad writing.
MGS kiddies are the worst.
>>339610489
PW Kaz is actually a character.
>>339597263
Fukc off, that was a terrible game and I am someone who didn't hate Conviction either, but that game was just fucking ass.
>>339610896
Venom Snake=best snake
There is no arguing this.
>>339590289
ON THE EDGE
