really Humble Bundle?
like for fucking real?
>>339589085
Why is this triggering so many autists?
>Called narrative bundle
>Get mad when they put in narrative-focus-only games
Humble Bundle is shit, more at eleven.
why do you care? were you saving up your last 2 dollars for the next bundle?
>it's fucking nothing
More at 11
>>339589085
Her Story isn't worth the dollar it's asking for
>>339591918
It is
>>339589085
Is rom as bad as the other two?
>>339589085
What the fuck humble bundle, why do you force me to buy a product I dont want to buy
>>339592121
it isn't
>>339592121
I got it gifted to me. Its as interactive as skipping thrn shiffling chapters on a dvd
>>339594582
It is
>>339594670
>not interactive therefore bad
Do you judge every piece of media like that
>>339594835
I judge an entire media genre based on interactivity on said interactivity. Yes. What do you judge it on?
>Humble SJW bundle
>>339594835
I'd rather play Plumbers don't wear ties than this shit
Not surprising the SJW bundle is full of shitty non games.
>>339589261
Humble no games Bundle.
>>339594954
Why does every game have to be judged on interactivity?
>what do you judge it on
On how well it achieves what it's trying to do? Not what I think it should have been
>>339589346
>games
>>339594835
You do when it's sold as a game and has no gameplay.
>>339594835
Well, I'd be pretty pissed off if the Lord of the Rings movie was nothing but a video of the book being flipped page by page for four hours
>>339595710
The guy wanted to make a thing where you piece together a story by looking at a bunch of little video clips. How would that have worked better as a film/book/album or whatever? If you did any research at all before you bought it, you would've realised what it was. The game never advertised itself as anything other than what it was.
>>339595592
>why does a interactive medium have to be judge by interactive actions
i should watch movies with closet eyes and ears
and judged it based on the feelings i get on 2 hours of "nothingness"
>>339595592
But that is the point of games, to play interactively.
Narrative games shouldn't be called games.
>>339595925
It sold itself as a game. It has no gameplay.
It's literally scrapbooking some boring bitch's shit.
>>339595862
What has that got to do with anything? And how did so many people manage to get tricked into buying this, do you just buy games without reading/watching anything about them at all? At least read the store page on steam, literally anything
>SJWs pushing their friends games
Indie games were a mistake.
>>339589085
I have been doing the humble bundle for a long time and this is one of the worst i have ever seen.
They could have at least added papers please to the theme. Thinking about buying some just to drop the codes and piss people off.
>>339595992
This post doesn't even make sense
>>339596039
You don't get to decide what the point of games is, and it not being a game doesn't take away from the overall quality at all
>>339596094
Go on and explain how this would've been possible as a film
>>339589085
just don't buy it you autist
>>339589085
NOT
VIDEO
GAMES
>Good games in exchange for little money
>>339596242
>Go on and explain how this would've been possible as a film
DVD's have had scene select menus since the inception of the format
>>339595925
So we need a new media to accommodate this kind of stuff, what about name it: "useless crap that a lot of people doesn't give a shit and are stupidly boring"?
>>339589085
Except those are good
>>339595862
You should have gone with the food analogy
>>339593226
It was passable, sort of. Your AI buddy is awesome and pretty well developed, but the rest of the stuff is basically what if SJWs ruled the future.
>>339596242
>You don't get to decide what the point of games is
Everything is games now.
I will make a video of me popping and you get to choose how I wipe my ass, GOTY.
>>339596343
You have to be able to search through a data base. Is your entire problem with this game that it's not on a DVD menu?
>>339596368
So this game is bad because it doesn't fit your arbitrary definition of what a game is
>>339596492
How does this post relate to anything that's being said?
>>339596492
It's oppressive because we don't get the shit's perspective and unfinished because we can't choose what food constitutes the shit. You could offend vegans if she shit includes animal products.
>>339596039
No. Narrative games are games.
Her story is just a program that takes 3 video clips and breaks them down into 20 second pieces.
Gone home is a fucking masterpiece in game mechanics by comparison.
>>339596597
LOL
>>339596594
>arbitrary
>>339596594
>Is your entire problem with this game that it's not on a DVD menu?
No. My problem, as I've stated multiple times, is it's not a game.
>>339596669
So everything that's not a game is shit
>>339589085
Literally never heard of the others, but Her Story is actually genuinely good.
It only takes a couple of hours, and I wouldn't call it a game, but it's certainly worth 'playing'.
If it has an interactive component it's a game, making all three of those titles games.
Granted not particularly good games, but still.
>>339596737
They can be good but they're not games.
Last time I checked the narrative bundle should apparently be selling games.
>>339596242
It's not about the concept of the form itself that's driving most of these people mad, it's more about the fact that these things are typically identified as and associated with games.
anyone want cibele?
>>339596737
Everything that's sold as a game and isn't a game is shit.
It would be equally shit if it was a cereal sold as a cereal and actually confetti.
>>339596409
>Tumblr.jpg
>Undermeme
2/10, you got me to reply.
>>339596780
Remember those 90s boardgames that had the VHS aspect of it? That's now videogames.
>>339596854
Yes if ur giving it away
>>339589261
not video games.
>>339596896
Exactly, now you get it
>>339596594
>How does this post relate to anything that's being said?
It relates that everything now is games.
Here is a time line of world events:
http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n2/History_n2/a.html
You can click on titles to see additional information. You interact with it. According to your definition this is a game.
>>339589085
Whats the matter goobergoter you cant stand art or womyn?
>>339596859
>>339596823
All you're saying over and over is "it's not what I want it to be so it's shit". How are you supposed to sell this as a movie?
>>339596951
Your English isn't too good, is it? Are you confused?
>>339596960
I prefer wikipedia.
Truly the best video game.
Anyone playing 4chan right now?
I'm about to level up.
>>339589085
Two great games and one bad one for $1.
>>339597042
You sell it as an interactive story; the next stage of CYOA. It's not a game.
>>339589085
We need to define video games, /v/.
My proposition: if it has a win-state *or* a lose-state, it's a video game. If it has neither, it's not.
I admit. I get triggered more by /v/ calling souls games "jrpgs"
>>339589085
Aw hell yeah. All those are pretty good games.
>>339597178
Now define win- and lose-states.
>>339597232
>>339597220
>It's an RPG
>It's from Japan
>Then it's a JRPG
That's why JRPG as a genre sucks. It's not self descrpitive.
>>339597232
when you win or when you lose
>>339597178
Real life is now a videogame
>>339597130
Okay, now imagine that the store page on steam was changed to say "interactive story" instead of "game". Do you like it now?
>>339597178
What's the point in that? You're never going to get everyone to agree on one thing
>>339597349
>>339597296
I'm completely serious.
Technically a win-state in OPs game could just be going through all the "story"
>>339597353
Real life only have lose state.
>>339597426
It is one.
Her Story and Gone Home as much of a game as The Last of Us is.
>>339597414
No, it's still boring. That's preference though. Not false advertising.
>>339597426
>OPs game
What
>>339597426
>>339597471
Then watching a movie is also a game. You win when you see the credits.
>>339597507
games*
I want to play broken age, but I don't want to expend all that money.
Is anyone willing to give or trade for it?
>>339597485
>Not false advertising.
This is from the store page
> How does it work?
>Her Story sits you in front of a mothballed desktop computer that’s logged into a police database of video footage. The footage covers seven interviews from 1994 in which a British woman is interviewed about her missing husband. Explore the database by typing search terms, watch the clips where she speaks those words and piece together her story.
Doesn't that describe what it is perfectly?
>>339595397
Plumbers don't wear ties is pathetic in a funny way.
These are just pathetic.
gone home did nothing wrong
>>339597340
It's not a jrpg, because jrpg is a genre. Like arpg is a genre.
Noir films make angrwat analogy here. Use noir literally like people use jrpg.
I hate this whole thing because I honestly can't tell anymore whether people are being serious when they type it.
Same goes for the samefag defending her story
>>339597340
its because people are autistic with words.
its started as a word to define rpg's made in japan but over time those games became to be known due to repeating characteristics tropes.
remember that people give words a meaning.
>>339589085
>email saying shadowrun Hong Kong in new humble bundle
Sweet haven't played that expansion
>see this shit as all the lower priced tier
>Hong Kong is 15 dollarydoos
Fuck that it's already that price elsewhere
>>339595992
>2 hours of nothingness
Yeah, because sound doesn't exist.
>>339594835
Man I've played it and it was fucking garbage. Not a game, more of a movie with extremely minor CYOA book elements.
>>339597557
So how do you lose?
>>339598032
He clearly said *or* in his definition.
>>339598010
>Not a game, more of a movie with extremely minor CYOA book elements.
Do you not see how that's a useless criticism
>>339589085
>Her Story: Gee I played this game back on the sega saturn, now where's the vampires I have to trap?
>Read Only Memories: Actually this is pretty good if you like dystopian shitty futures.
>Cibele: Jeremy Fogle loves his six inchers
Not shown on OP
>Broken Age: A Reminder that both Lucas Arts and Infocom are well and truly dead.
>80 days: The only good one of the bunch, It's choose your own adventure with actual branching and a fuck ton of words.
>Sorcery: Steve Jackson makes video games?
>Shadowrun Hong Kong: As if I would pay 10$ for this.
>>339598297
Yeah bro, Her Story would've been so much more awesomer if it had some sick vampires walking around the police station. Like, where was the action anywhere even? It was fuckin boring man, like WTF Barlow gimme some baddies to fight???
>>339596640
The Worst part is if the developer knew anything about effort they could have turned it into a wicked FMV type puzzle game where you are trying to piece together testimonies to find the real culprit. But what do SJWs know about effort.
>>339598297
>Shadowrun Hong Kong: As if I would pay 10$ for this.
Retard
>>339598297
Shadowrun is legit worth the 10$ and it was a smart move for them to put it there.
>>339598654
Yeah, if the game was what I wanted it to be and not what Barlow wanted it to be, it would've been good
>>339598654
I tried. It was just so hollow, and her acting was real bad.
Would you?
>>339599420
Yeah. She's ok, for an indie dev hipster clique better than you woman.
>>339589085
I like how Her Story has those fake graphics to make it look like it's some foreign or indie film award recipient.
Why is it that /v/ loves to shit all over "non-games" but also loves to suck this game's dick at every opportunity?
Does Read Only Memories have anything to do with VA-11 HALL-A?
>>339599729
>My only experience with her story was a 1 minute youtube clip
>>339599779
you missed the point
>>339599162
fuck off
>>339589085
*raises katana*
Ummm, if you don't like it, don't buy it?
![latest[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ET9M9L4.gif "latest[1].gif")
>>339599779
because its 2unique actual scary
>>339600010
Was this an ironic post
>>339600353
But all you do is walk, not even a game!!
>>339599162
you first SRS
>>339589085
$1 isn't bad for Her Story
>>339589085
Like, OMG! I can't even!
>>339596094
That bitch is fucking nuts though.
Just treat it like a visual novel and get over it, Jesus.
>>339600710
You find things, you solve walking puzzles with those things you find. Then by solving those puzzles, you find more things. You win the game by finding all the available things. I say that it's more of a game than those three games from the narrative bundle
>>339597872
Yeah, because he didn't say closed eyes AND EARS
>>339596896
> games which include video
I fail to see a problem
>>339599779
Because /v/ users at large are neckbearded weeaboos with retarded double standards. Both are shit and not games.
>>339597042
No, it's not a game and happens to also be shit. Where did anyone say it's shit because it isn't a game? All I've seen is that it's shit and isn't a game.
>>339589085
>Cibele
>Camwhore: The Game
>>339597819
Pretty sure souls is a japanese role playing game. If the whole point of a genre is to define or classify types of games why would you intentionally use something vague? Why not call it a turn based jrpg? Or atb jrpg?
>>339601213
>Where did anyone say it's shit because it isn't a game?
It's pretty easy, you just have to read the thread
>>339597178
This argument is retarded because then every single adventure game (or any puzzle game) isn't a game anymore as you can't "lose"
>>339589085
I bought it and am about to play Cibele, which I've been interested in for a whilebecause I was in a relationship through FFXI for years. I've been curious about all of these "games" actually, and for a buck I will try all of them and see if they're actually any fun.
Also Read Only Memories looks like Snatcher + Ace Attorney Investigations, what's not to like?
Oh, because it's a meme that these games are tumblr sjw shit? Good reason not to drop a fucking dollar on them, faggots.
>>339601564
>win or lose state
>>339601534
Then you should have no problem pointing out the posts that say that.
>>339601564
Hence the *or*. They have win-states though.
>>339601636
>>339601681
Gone Home has as much of a win state as any adventure or puzzle game. It's just that the win state is much easier to achieve.
>>339601735
Yeah, hence why it's a video game
>>339601607
rom is basically snatcher, but the tumblr sjw shit is pretty real in it.
I still like the game, but things like characters having weird pronouns really grated on me.
>>339589085
Humble ''No more games'' Bundle
>>339601661
Here's one you would've seen if you bothered to spend a minute reading the thread
>>339594670
>>339601207
>I've never played yume nikki
I'm pretty sure that anons here have already made the case why people don't feel that the three titles in the OP are meant to be called games
>>339601951
>>339601763
And yet Her Story also has a win state yet it's not a game (and I agree). I'm just saying that the proposal of declaring something to be a video game or not based on a win or lose state is a retarded idea. You can lose when bidding on something on ebay, is that a game?
>>339601984
>He didn't say it's bad
>He just said that it's level of interactivity isn't enough to warrant its status as a game
Read only memories is probably worth a buck despite GENDER FUTURE
Feels bad making anyone think the other two are worth anything though
>>339601984
Is there invisible ink or something because I'm not seeing "it's shit because it isn't a game"
I just see him stating why it isn't a game.
>>339601607
>Also Read Only Memories looks like Snatcher + Ace Attorney Investigations, what's not to like?
>>339602076
I think the real problem here is that, even though judgments can be fairly consistent among different anons, none of us here could put into words exactly as why something like Cibele or Her Story doesn't warrant being called a game.
>>339602093
>>339602176
Is not being able to pick up on implications a common thing with autists?
>>339602076
Her Story is the most video game of the two (haven't played ROM). You find 50% of the videos and you win. It's no different from any collectible-based game.
You could probably make a game around bidding on eBay, but winning an auction wouldn't really be a good win-state since you might be losing more then you gain on the auction. You'd have to add a commerce system to it and make it something like, say, Recettear
>>339602005
And if you judge YN using the same criteria, mechanical depth, it's one of the worst games ever made
>>339589085
who's the cute boy on the right?
>>339602240
>developers spend time making shit up like this
>>339602384
I think picking up implications that don't exist is more in line with autistic thinking. He was pretty clear with his wording.
Isn't Read Only Memories the game with the xe/xim and other tumblr pronouns in it?
>>339602506
>boy
I got some bad new anon...
>>339589261
Because it's literaly "the san francisco SJW hipster dev who's friend with the journos bundle" heck i'm surprised they didn't put gone home too, i guess that would have made it too obvious even for normies
>>339602601
it was posted on 4chan, no way it's female
>>339602462
>mechanical depth
Your post is literally the first time that term is mentioned in the thread
>>339596331
>good
>>339589261
Just like feminists, autists do not believe that "games" or whatever you call them that they don't agree with like her story should not exist.
>>339596331
>games
Why do people think Her story is amazing?
It is basically one of those crappy detective games you would find on computers at school.
>>339601607
rom is shit sjw propaganda, i enjoyed the beginning but the bar scene and forward.. i couldnt stand this shit. so i donot recommend.
>>339602663
So you somehow managed to miss all the fags screaming about "muh interactivity"?
>>339602557
>Her Story isn't worth the dollar it's asking for
>it is
>I got it gifted to me. Its as interactive as skipping thrn shiffling chapters on a dvd, implying that it isn't worth playing (shit) because it isn't interactive enough
You're either retarded, autistic or lazy
>>339602638
Do you know all about the developers of your favourite game?
>>339602747
>should not exist
no, a lot of people here are talking more about their status as games than they are as bad things
>>339602914
>interactivity
>mechanical depth
You should really make up your mind
>>339603038
Your autism is showing, time to stop posting.
>>339596094
From what i understand, its an interactive mystery that you solve by watching clips.You find these clips by searching for them.It sold itself as a game because it is a game, and it does have gameplay.Is scene it not a board game?I'd say her story is more of a game, than scene it is.
>>339602910
I'll put up with a lot for puzzles and spritework.
Naming yourself and all of your pronouns "Turing" helps a lot to tolerate the madness
>>339603175
Depth is a measure of the possibility space within a game aka interactivity
>>339603253
No you
>>339603364
Here is your (You).
>>339598654
Oh thats NOT what it is?Shit maybe i shouldn't have defended it.
>>339602638
Gone Homo os on PSN+ this month...
Well at least I can use the multipl-... fuck it. Im not resubbing until they get good games. Nigger Balls America 15 isnt enough.
>>339599143
I can understand every criticism except that.How is her acting bad?
>>339603038
>>implying that it isn't worth playing (shit) because it isn't interactive enough
If you are looking for a game, of course it isn't. If you are looking for something else, then probably it would. Other than that post, what other examples can you point out?
>>339603294
Sandboxes have great possibility of space within it, but Skyrim is pretty shallow when you look at its game mechanics. Interactivity != mechanical depth
>>339603454
You won't get the last word in this one kid, especially not after you lost that intense debate
WHERE THE VIDEO GAMES
>>339603460
It is, except that you don't have to choose from a list of suspects or whatever this guy was thinking
>>339603573
>Waahhh I'm not autistic y-you are
>Waah you didn't win
>I win waaah
Comedy gold
>>339603561
>Other than that post, what other examples can you point out?
Are you serious or just trying to waste my time?
>>339594954
>>339595710
>>339595862
>>339598010
>Skyrim is pretty shallow when you look at its game mechanics
That's bredth, when a lot of shallow mechanics create a huge possibility space
>>339603898
I'm literally going to sit here for hours to respond to your shitposts, give up now
>>339598296
It's not a criticism, it's a fact. I was actually describing it there, when I said it was garbage that was just because I hated it.
>>339604059
>It's not a criticism, it's a fact.
Yeah, and it wasn't trying to be anything more. So shitting on it for not doing something that it wasn't even trying to do is not a criticism, glad we're on the same wavelength here
>>339603985
>I'm not autistic but I'm gonna sit here all day to shitpost
>>339604195
>still trying to respond
>>339604176
Again, I wasn't criticizing it, I was stating what it was and that I hated it.
>>339603901
Literally all of those posts are all about it not having value when judging it as a game, not as something else. Of course they're going to say that if they want games to play, not movies to watch. Continue seeing implications that don't exist, autist.
>That's breadth, when a lot of shallow mechanics create a huge possibility space
That still doesn't explain the part where interactivity=game mechanics. In fact, you've destroyed that argument by saying that interactivity depends on more than just game mechanics.
>>339604301
So we agree. Good talk
>>339603901
But it doesn't have any depth either. A few choices and a movie do not produce depth. Games don't have to be deep either, just playable.
>>339589085
Nice cuck exclusives
>>339604457
Yes, we agree. I hated it because it was shit, you enjoyed it because it did what it was supposed to.
Good talk m8.
You faggotrons all knew there was a possibility that this type of game would show up eventually. Just save your dollar for the next one.
>>339603985
>>339604290
>>339604195
>I'm literally going to sit here for hours to respond to your shitposts, give up now
Hilarious, and for the record you're right, the other guy is a contrarian faggot dont waste your time replying shitposts.
>>339604290
I'm telling you the truth, the only autistic in here is you.
I don't know what people like you actually get for defending shit games and going full retard when someone say it is bad.
It looks like you actually did any of these "games".
>>339604405
>Do you judge every piece of media like that
>>I judge an entire media genre based on interactivity on said interactivity, this game is judged based on interactivity, therefore shit
Now use what you learned here and take a look at the other posts
>you've destroyed that argument by saying that interactivity depends on more than just game mechanics.
No? Game mechanics are how we interact with games
>>339604480
Okay? No one said HS was deep
>>339604787
>>339589261
Humble Bundle has been shit ever time it changes mainly.
>>339604917
ok cool, I don't hate HS because I've never played it tbqh, I just don't really want to. I meant depth.
This is actually a really good bundle just for 80 Days and Sorcery.
It sucks it doesn't have part 3 though which is by far the best one.
>>339604819
>people searching for games don't like non-games
Oh wow, truly a master of common sense
Also, let me rephrase the second statement
You've destroyed that argument by saying that interactivity depends on more than just deep game mechanics. Also, what this anon said>>339604480. You get a sense that you really are playing when you start up Yume Nikki. Watching clips don't really evoke the same feeling of "playing it" so stop saying that it's a non-game.
>>339605525
>Oh wow, truly a master of common sense
Yeah that's how easy it was for you to figure out
> interactivity depends on more than just deep game mechanics.
And YN has few, shallow mechanics
>You get a sense that you really are playing when you start up Yume Nikki. Watching clips don't really evoke the same feeling of "playing it" so stop saying that it's a non-game.
By /v/'s standards it's just a cocksuck non-game, they don't care about that
What is this thread even about?
People arguing over something not being a 'game'? Who the fuck cares?
her story and ROM are pretty good actually. cibele is a fucking hot piece of shit though
>>339605756
Yes, they're judging a piece of media according to their personal criteria of being a game and it falls flat under that judgment. The main complaint in this thread is more about those pieces of media being called games
>by /v/'s standards
by /v/'s standards (as you perceive it), tetris isn't a game either. You're the one here that think /v/ has this standard. It already has a lot of breadth thanks to its exploration aspect and according to what you said about breadth to its relatively shallow puzzle-game mechanics, it adds to the interactivity that would warrant it being called a game.
How hard is it to program? I want to make a game.
>>339606356
Aren't you scared that you'll look like a casual?
>>339606561
>by /v/'s standards (as you perceive it), tetris isn't a game either.
What
>You're the one here that think /v/ has this standard
So you haven't read this thread, the exact copies of this thread that have been popping up since this bundle was created, or the countless threads that have shat on "non-games" or "walking-sims" that have been happening all the time for past few years
>It already has a lot of breadth thanks to its exploration aspect
What? I didn't say Skyrim had breadth because of exploration, it has tons of skills/weapons/items etc
>adds to the interactivity that would warrant it being called a game
I never said it shouldn't be seen as a game without the double standard, just shit
>>339595397
TAKE
OFF
YOUR
DAMN
CLOTHES
>>339596463
The A.I. was annoying.
The lesbo cop was kind of cute though.
>>339606681
http://www.pcgamer.com/no-coding-required-how-new-designers-are-using-gamemaker-to-create-indie-smash-hits/
Toby Fox doesn't know how to program
>>339589085
so, how many dicks did she have to eat to make it possible?
>>339607308
Cool. I'll just dive in and get GameMaker. Thanks.
>>339589085
Eh, doesn't look appealing tbqh, I don't buy games with footage of real people in them. Brings back bad memories of shitty FMV games.
>>339607308
Gamemaker uses it's own language, which definitely counts as programming.
>>339606971
I have read this thread and the main complaints were coming from them judging it as games and seeing it fall flat. The general consensus here is that they don't deserve to be called games
>I never said it shouldn't be seen as a game without the double standard, just shit
See, the main criticism about gone home is more about it's lacking mechanics and relatively small breadth. Meanwhile, yume nikki is praised because of its wide breadth and generally interesting setting that rewards exploration. There is also the puzzle aspect that, although minor, works with the setting and is able to keep a player's interest in the exploration.
>>339606971
>So you haven't read this thread, the exact copies of this thread that have been popping up since this bundle was created, or the countless threads that have shat on "non-games" or "walking-sims" that have been happening all the time for past few years
That doesn't prove /v/ has standards, we have daily love and hate threads about the same game.
I am playing Shadowrun Dragonfall. Having fun so far. Is Hong Kong Extended worth $10? It's like 50% off
>>339589261
Because they can't simply ignore the things they don't like or do not agree with.
Havr you faggots even seen the charities they donate to?
You retards have been donating to charities that help women get into coding.
>>339610420
You can select your own charity.
I've chosen Red Cross every time.
>>339610684
I'm sure most faggots here won't take the time to do that.
>>339596492
Underated post. You cunt sjw bitches are fucking dumber than rocks,which,as you know, have no intelligence.KeK
>>339596409
Kek. Good one brother.
>>339601264
What a dumb sjw motherfucker.kek
What the fuck does Her Story have to do with SJWs?
Did any of you faggots even play it?
>>339607308
>Toby Fox doesn't know how to program
if you open up GMS for a minute and try to get anything done you'll be writing in a scripting language with functions, arrays, types etc.
