GTX 1070 buyers, are you waiting or buying?
I already have a killer gaming laptop, why would I need something as ridiculous as that?
>>339570271
Is this killer gaming laptop alienware, or your mother's macbook?
>>339570271
Are you a GTX 1070 buyer?
>recently upgraded from 670 i bought 4 years ago to 980ti
>won't upgrade for another 4 at least
I don't pay attention to the specs outside of when I was upgrading but is it really that much better? Or are you the kind of folk who buy every iteration of apple products?
>>339570225
Waiting for aftermarket coolers because anyone that buys a stock one is fucking retarded.
>>339570609
The founder's edition isn't stock.
>>339570578
1080 is about a 20% performance increase over the 980ti at best. You're fine. I'm upgrading to a 1070 from a 780 though. Definitely worth.
>>339570225
might get the MSI version later
>>339570609
>>339570702
When do these come out?
>>339570654
It still isn't going to OC as high as a STRIX or EVGA superclock. Why the fuck wouldn't you wait one more month? Why would you pay more for an inferior product?
>>339570225
whats a gtx 980 gonna cost once this releases???
>>339570756
Probably by the end of June at the latest.
>>339570814
I want to play games now.
>>339570871
There will be a very small price cut. Prices of nvidia GPUs never drop dramatically.
>>339570578
>I recently bought a high-end GPU and don't need it, so that means nobody else does either
Are you retarded?
>>339570814
This. Anyone who buys a founders edition is either a complete idiot or a millionaire that also plans to get a custom PCB when they come out
>>339570271
Your $1200 laptop will lose against AMD $200 cards in a month
Buying 1000 series cards is so fucking dumb.
Either buy Polaris that has actual DX12 support and HBM, or wait for the 1080 to release and buy the 980ti when it drops in price. There's no reason to get this gimped as shit card that hardly performs better than the 980ti for more money.
Either do one of those, or wait for nVidia to get their shit together with the next batch of cards with HBM and real dx12 support.
>current year
>GDDR5X
Have a gtx 760. Just have two 1080p monitors. Not sure a 1070 would be worth it unless I get a 1440p monitor. We'll see.
>>339571039
a 1200 laptop probably has a 860m or 960m which is about on par with a 750ti. its already much worse than a 140 dollar 280x
>upgrading from my integrated graphics card to this
>I will be able to actually run doom
I'm excited, honestly.
>>339570225
Not this Nvidia guy. I'm replacing my GTX 780 with the RX 480. Fuck over expensive nvidicrap.
pic related
>>339570225
Waiting. I won't have my first gaming desktop until December, and it'll be worth the wait.
>>339571071
Literally nothing you just said is accurate
>Polaris will definitely have DX12 support (your thinking of vulkin
>the 1070 will perform better than the 980ti for FAR less money
>>339570225
I could wait a couple of months and buy the GTX 1070 after everything has been said and done, or I could buy a RX 480 as soon as it launches, and the month after spent $100 on the Summer sale.
Benchmarks can't come soon enough.
>>339571402
Polaris will have dx12 support
Buying cards without HBM in current year is retarded. nVidia or AMD otherwise.
>>339570942
I take it you're a millennial
>>339571481
Its really not going to make a huge difference unless you're running a 4K display, which I would still recommend against for at least another couple generations
>>339571481
HBM isn't viable in performance vs dollar yet. You don't know what you're talking about.
Behold and witness my brothers for a new day is upon us, one where our wallets are not lightened by the green team no more. That's right, the ultimate top end card for the mere worth of 200 american dollars. Our saviours from team Red have prevailed. VR is affordable to the masses, and yes that means you, you filthy console peasants. combining 2 of these together in what team red calls crossfire will unleash the hell against the green teams top tier card at a mere half the cost. now you can take the money you saved and buy 100's of games on the up and coming steam sale and max those graphics.
>>339571571
Dank meme brother
>>339571559
>HBM isn't viable
Stopped reading here
>>339571545
It's more than worth it on 1440p. GDDR5 is only for 1080p and below.
>>339571669
Eh, it really comes down to what level of performance you want. if you're obsessed with getting 60fps at ultra then yeah you're right.
I don't know. I have a 770 and honestly it can run just about any game I throw at it, though not at stable framerates. And certain games destroy it like GTAV that use a shitload of VRAM.
I hear the 1070 is total overkill for 1080p, which is kind of future-proof for the moment.
>>339571571
>200 american dollars.
Keep dreaming m8.
>>339571736
>current year
>playing PC games and not getting 60fps on ultra
Literally move to consoles if you do this.
>have a laptop with 555m
>run the newest games on medium settings at a slightly lower resolution
You guys are getting memed
>>339571920
>have shit card
>run games at eyesore settings
I don't see how we're getting memed
>>339571571
>$199 for the 4GB version
>$299 for the 8GB version which claims to beat the 980 (Not the TI) one.
>$399 for a reliable Nvidia GoyTX 1070 card which is about as powerful as a Titan Card
Benchmarks it is.
>>339571819
where have you been retard?
Dual Crossfire RX 480 out performed the 1080 for $500.
The card is launching at $199
waiting for 1060 cause budget and 1080p monitor.
hopefully my 660ti survives till late november.
>>339572207
$199 for 4gb
$249 for 8gb
>>339572207
>The card is launching at $199
Source?
>>339571980
They're playable and don't look that shit. New games are optimised for shit computers. There's no reason to spend lots of money on the newest most powerful components. It's and objectively poor way to spend money.
>>339572247
You can still max out Battlefield 1 with a 660ti. Especially since it support vulkan out of the box. Anyone with any 600 series card will be able to max it at 1080p and get 60+ FPS.
>>339572247
>1080p
Do not buy nVidia.
Seriously. There's no reason for 1080p nVidia.
>>339572331
I like pretty things, so I want to run my games at 60fps maxed. I have a job, so it's not a very big deal to drop a few hundred on new computer parts once every 1-3 years.
>>339570954
>turning a post asking two questions magically to where i'm making a statement
Are you?
>>339572390
what if you want to play games at 60fps high settings 4 years from now?
>>339572317
First link on the googs.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10389/amd-teases-radeon-rx-480-launching-june-29th-for-199
>have a 960m
>running games at either Medium/1080p or High/720p, dont even play shittiy, unoptomised ports
>gonna hold over on building my first tower until either:
>1080ti re-brand releases (EVGA, MSI, etc)
>980ti tanks in prices after 1080 but before 1080ti
>Or some tech leaps actually happen that causes AMD to actually churn out better cards than Nvidia and with good drivers to boot
Im patient
>>339572317
Google nigger.
You missed the fucking show
Zen was shown too.
>>339572313
I expected the 8Gb model to go higher. Damn. I guess I will go for that, and save for the next generation of motherboards and chipstets. 2017 supposedly is the year of the PCI-EIV
>founder's editions are the only ones available atm
FUCK OFF
I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY EXTRA MONEY FOR YOUR EARLY ACCESS BETA TEST SHIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339570942
don't you have a gpu already?
>>339572331
> New games are optimised for shit computers.
>PC games
>EVER being optimized at this point
what goddamn world do you live in? We have entire websites dedicated to telling us how bad PC ports are.
We've had like 8 horrendous ports in the last year.
>>339572442
Buy a new card in 2 years then fuck face. If you can't make $300-400 in 2 years then you're homeless.
>>339570306
>>339570357
>>339571039
>all these idiots taking the bait
>>339571571
And then Nvidia releases 1060gtx and AMD is btfo again.
>>339572525
hey anon
how about uh
uh...
ya know
um...be patient and wait? :3
Actual GPU scores
>>339572486
graphics cards don't go down in price that much, there isn't enough stock to justify and the second-hand market is basically dead.
>>339572374
my card either does good and lets me play all-day long, or it shits it self playing Diablo 3.
maybe its just loose on the slot.
>>339572525
>Nvidia charging more for the shittiest version of a card
<- Nvidiots face when AMD shows off a far superior card for half the cost.
>>339572551
>spend $550 now and be good for at-least 5 years
>spend $300 twice in 4 years and not be able to play games at the highest settings at 60 fps.
where do you get your logic.
>>339572667
These are apples and oranges
There isn't a constant variable, it changes the GPU, motherboard and CPU without holding any one constant.
>>339570225
Waiting for a Evga model I think.
I have been using an Evga GTX 680 for the past 5 years and it never EVER gave me any troubles.
Not the hardware itself, neither the drivers, it just works everyday 10h+.
So yeah, they won me over with quality.
>>339571207
Nigga a 480 is on par with a 780
That's retarded
>>339572536
>We've had like 8 horrendous ports in the last year.
If you are not a retardittor memester, you will have realized by now that at least half of them have been optimized at this point, on top of being cheaper.
On an unrelated note, I fucking hate steam reviews, all of them are worthless youtube comments.
>AAA game
>Mixed reviews
>FreddyFazzbear15, it does not run on my grandma's laptop, shit game
>Indie game
>Overwhelmingly positive
>DabdankMillenial, Lol pewdiepie reference FTW 10 / 10 am I cool guys?
I hope the separate category fixes some of these issues.
>>339572667
unless they're in-game scores these tests only paint half a picture. Tesselation really fucks over AMD gpus and is a huge feature of a lot of games nowadays.
>>339572735
>mfw I now gotta chose between proper DX12 support with AMD and shitty drivers
>or house fires and proper support along with "it just werks" with Nvidia
Jesus christ this is terrible for everyone.
>>339572331
>They're playable and don't look that shit
>555m
720p 30fps is pretty fucking shit
It's 360/PS3 tier
>>339572681
thats why they were IF situations
I dont expect 980ti cards to tank, and I REALLY dont expect AMD to do a 180 upswing within a few months with good drivers
I will, however, not give in like the other idiots and nab the earliest 1070 I can get my hands on
Im going 1440p/60fps or bust and run it for years to come
>>339572839
>proper DX12 support
How many games are using DX12 right now, can you tell me?
>>339572754
>Be good for at least 5 years
You'll play modern games at 1080p for 3 and 900p for the next two the way graphics and optimization are going.
Do you never plan on upgrading your monitor? Do you really want to stay on 1080p for 5 fucking years?
>>339570225
Waiting. Buying bleeding edge hardware is retarded. You should always wait until the flaws that slip by QA are ironed out before you adopt a platform.
>>339571501
>millennial
Unless you're over 40 years old or underage b&, so are you. The term refers to coming-of-age, not date of birth.
>>339571669
>Stopped reading here
So you stopped reading his post at the position where he was actually making his point. Do you think you're witty? Because HBM isn't viable in price vs. performance yet.
It was like buying a SSD 5-6 years ago. They failed all the time, and the prices were exorbitant. HBM will be good, eventually. Just not with this batch AMD will have coming out.
>>339572667
Synthetic benchmarks mean absolutely nothing for gaming.
>>339572885
Not many since Nvidia can't seem to fucking run it properly. And Nvidia has a bunch of devs in their pocket.
>>339570225
Still sitting on my 770 and while it begins to struggle in some game at the highest settings I don't really feel the need to upgrade yet.
My brother is getting a new pc jumping from an integrated card to a 1070, so I'll still be able to use it if I REALLY need it for some game.
>>339572936
>le illuminati influence meme
Sure buddy, whatever you say
i am still using a gtx 470. most of the time i am playing csgo, and that is cpu-heavy though.
ends the waiting here for me or should i endure another generation?
>>339572783
yeah, Quantum Break, Just Cause 3, and Arkham Knight turned out great, amirite? Dark Souls 3 definitely doesn't have broken game features at all.
Like, for chrissake, I'm mainly PC aside from my Wii U, PC is what I use for multiplats. But you're retarded if you believe most releases are optimized for low-end PCs, or even high-end PCs. They're just cobbled together by some third-party dev unrelated to the game half the time.
Not sure if i want 1080 or 1070.
I currently have a 970 so anything is an improvement. I run everything in 1080p and I don't care much about 100+fps, so i'm leaning toward 1070
>>339572761
How is this apples to oranges?
The R9 290X CF uses slow DDR3 and a FX 8350
The GTX 1080 is overclocked to 2.1GHz with an i7 6700k and DDR4
The R9 290Xs still post a higher GPU score.
Go look up these results on 3DMark's site. Ignore the overall score because of the CPU bias. Its real and legit
>>339572893
I really don't see the point in a monitor being 1 foot from my face needing anymore pixels than it does now. I have a 4k monitor at work and all it does is piss me off because 3dsmax doesn't have UI scaling.
>>339572839
>proper DX12 support
you can't use this meme without facts backing it
>>339573003
>970
>1080p
You're better off sticking with what you already have senpai.
>>339572885
New cards hype the shit out of:
DX12
VR
2k - 4K, despite the fact that 1080p is still a standard due to poorfags like me, and because fuck playing on twice the resolution at half the framerate on a fucking tiny monitor. Even a 27 Inch monitor with a 144Hz refresh rate is a commodity.
The Rx 480 sin is that it is not DVI but DP, but here is hope that it does include a connector.
>>339572991
>gameworks in almost every game lately
Sure anon.
>>339573047
DX12 has support for MOAR CORES
Something AMD loves to do, so AMD always outperforms Nvidia in DX12 tests.
>>339573003
If you have a 970 you could more than likely just hold out for the 1170/1180, or whatever Nvidia will call their shit next year.
>>339572893
>Do you never plan on upgrading your monitor? Do you really want to stay on 1080p for 5 fucking years?
I don't really have any reason to upgrade my monitor. 1440p is nice, but at how close I sit to my monitor I don't need it. On top of that most 1440p screen I know are at-least 27" and the PPI is about the same as 1080p when I'm only sitting about 2 feet from the monitor.
>>339573003
You don't need to upgrade
happy with my 970 bruh
>>339570225
buying third-party
>>339572907
HEY MILLENNIAL I HAVE SUPER FUCKING GOOD LAPTOP FOR YOU
IT GOT STRIPES SIMILAR TO THOSE IN SPORTS GEAR
GOOD FOR YOU MILLENNIAL
T. HP
>mfw 770
>not sure if I should just try to find a cheap 970 for like $200, or go for a 1070 once the founder edition shit stops
>>339573026
It's also a synthetic test, which usually doesn't really reflect game performance.
>>339572135
>$299 for the 8GB version
The 8GB version will be $250 at most based on the <$500 CF chart.
>>339573003
>dont care much about super high fps
>wants to upgrade from a 970
What exactly is going on in your head?
>>339573073
>>339573119
>>339573157
o-okI only recently got into building rigs, so I guess I am just excited for new generations of thingsI almost fell for the VR meme as well
>>339573001
>Arkham Knight
I know you are only using the word retard because I hurt your redittor feelings, because you would know this game was optimized recently you fucking imbecile. How about you keep up with the news instead of browsing r/gaming?
But go on and humor me faggot, that seems to be your only purpose on Earth, give me your description of what you consider high end and low end.
Prove once and for all you don't know SHIT.
>>339570225
Buying. I was waiting for Polaris to make a decision, it appears that the 1070 has similar performance per watt, if not better, and the price/performance is good enough. I'm tired of waiting and am not going to wait any longer for AMD to put something out that is as powerful as the 1070. The only decision I have to make is if to get the reference one or an aftermarket one. I sort of like blower coolers, keeping the rest of my system cooler while the GPU is still in healthy operating temperatures doesn't seem like a bad deal. If the versions with aftermarket coolers are actually $379 I'll get that, but if not it's pretty much a toss for me desu.
>>339571180
Me too.
>>339572893
I got a 24 inch 1080p screen.
It's already pretty big, not to mention I dual screen. Honestly most of the time I just go single monitor because 1 screen fills my entire eye view
>>339572603
At what price?
GTX1070 already set a very low bar on price/perf and AMD basically destroy it.
If Nvidia set the price for 1060 to be as good as Rx 480, then it would make 1070 looks bad and possibly jeopardize its sales.
>>339573232
1080p/60fps for 2 more years? 970
1080p/60fps for 4 years? 980ti
1080p/60fps for 6 years? 1070
Just throwing out very rough estimates assuming you're aiming for High settings
WAIT FOR THE TI LADS
how much will 3rd party 1070's cost, roughly?
I've gamed 1080p my whole life. Is switching over to 1440p worth it?
I ask here because I'm getting a 1070.
>>339573393
>not just waiting for the 1780
retard
>>339573365
The question is, will the card run for 6 years?
From past experience I would say yes, but maybe I just got lucky with my card.
>>339573312
>now it's fixed
Big fucking whoop, it's been a whole goddamn year. That's unacceptable to have a "better" version after more than a month after release.
This is what I'm talking about with PC games. Games ARE NOT released optimized. Most of them don't even get the AK treatment since most devs aren't bros like Rocksteady who took it upon themselves to fix the botched port. JC3 is still fucking broken as are the other games I mentioned.
>>339573365
>bought 770 2 years ago
>it's already showing it's age really bad
I'm really not sure what to do.
>>339573287
If you have more money than sense and want to stay in this hobby of assembling PCs, give yourself a budget and then try to build a PC using current generation hardware around that budget i.e. $500. You're not allowed to go over it.
>>339573508
>Big fucking whoop, it's been a whole goddamn year. That's unacceptable to have a "better" version after more than a month after release.
Go back to r/gaming sterling, work your fucking minimum wage job before you get replaced, faggot. It won't last.
>>339570225
I might get the amd card instead since it's cheaper.
>>339572907
I'm older than thatkiddo
By the time I want to buy another card, the Ti 2048 12GB or whatever the fuck it will be will be out and AMD will probably be bankrupt and VooDoo 3dfx boogaloo will take its place. Thank god I hate most games, so it won't be a big deal. Indie shit and emulation all the way baby.
>>339573596
>i'm okay with having broken games on release
>>339573485
You never know since these cards are brand new and you can never trust those early benchmarks since they could be paid by AMD/NV
But to me, I feel my estimates are whats is gonna happen
Im holding out until what I said here >>339572486
I want my first card to last for quite a while
>>339573442
Once you play on 1440p you'll never want to go back to 1080p
>>339573615
Unless another competitor enters the race, I don't think AMD will go bankrupt. Nvidia knows that they'll face government regulation if they're the only consumer-supplier of GPUs.
>>339573447
>he's not waiting for the Nvidia ® GTX ™ 1776 Patriot Edition ™
>>339573741
Isn't the quality about the same since the only monitors that have 1440p are like minimum 27"?
>>339573741
That big of a deal huh?
Fug. I was planning on getting a 144hz 1080p monitor but if 1440p really is a big deal I might just go for htat.
>>339570654
Yes it is. It's literally the reference design with a price premium they're trying to get away with by imposing an artificial delay on partner boards so the impatient will give them more money for the garbage version of their product.
>>339573359
The same as a 960, 760, 660, etc. at launch probably. 250$ for a 8GB model. They always do that. All it needs to do is be slightly better than RX480 for people to prefer it. I don't really see how it hurts the 1070 because it has always been this way and people still went with the X70 stuff. Keep in mind only the 4GB 480 will cost 200$ and 4GB is starting to not be enough anymore.
If we are lucky we'll even get a Ti version as good as the 560Ti was.
>>339573797
Pixel density on 1440p is still much higher than a 1080p at 24"
>>339570225
480 have about 20 ~ 25% less performance than 1070 at $180 cheaper.
You almost basically paying double for that kind of gap.
Also, 480 have a single 6 pin connector, which make it at most draw 145watt. The card could have been anywhere between 130 ~ 140 ish.
GTX1070 on the other hand have a single 8 pin connector, which gave em a total of 225 watt, and it could be drawing anywhere from 140 ~ 170watt.
GTX1070 have better perf/watt, but by a very,very thin margin.
But when it comes to pricing Rx 480 is a no brainer.
There is absolutely no reason for you to get GTX 1070, especially considering the fact that the custom version of it, that is priced cheaper than the FE edition, will be available around the Polaris launch date.
1440P A SHIT
DONT LISTEN TO SHILLS
>>339573536
Almost decided to build my first tower on a budget a while ago with a 760, glad I wasnt dumb back then
Just Wait™ for either another price drop on 980ti, the rebrands of 1070/80, or the rebrand of 1080ti
>>339573243
The way I see it is that the RX 480 in crossfire is optimal for VR if each GPU renders one eye. 8GB at 8GHz over a 256bit bus on each eye.
The GTX1080 at stock should lose to the RX480 CF in VR. $500 vs $600+ gives Nvidia serious competition
>>339573797
The smallest and cheapest I could find is 25" and $260 US. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-G257HU-smidpx-25-Inch-Widescreen/dp/B00QS0AKVK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464765261&sr=8-1&keywords=acer+1440p+monitor
>>339571173
This. As much as gaming laptops have inproved, it would take at least a $2000 one to compete with a proper desktop build.
>>339573835
Almost all 144hz monitors are TN and look like shit. Get a qnix qx2710 or something like that. You get 1440p, IPS, low input lag and it costs a lot less than other 1440p monitors.
>>339573895
poorfag
>>339573896
I bought what was best at the time of build that I could afford.
>tfw 900 series came out 4 months later
>>339573914
>acer
aren't they a shit-tier brand?
>>339573895
Explain your opinion without using the word shill
>>339573835
If you're only gaming, just buy a card capable of 1440p, not the actual screen.
1080@144 is god-like right now if it has adaptative vsync : you can supersample your games to 1440p and stick with 60fps or play your oldies like quake3engine games at your favorite com_maxfps 125
>>339571571
I fell for the AMD crossfire meme once before and I'm waiting for the 1070 to drop to replace them.
Getting one ASAP. It will kick the shit out of my 660
>>339573908
not planning on VR so w/e.
Plus, so many games have issues with SLI and Crossfire that it usually isn't worth it.
Alright, so i got some questions
>1080 aren't capable of DX12?
>2x RX480 will be more powerful than 1080?
>Is there even a point to get 1080 when it can't even run 4k at 60 fps? meanwhile I can just get 980 and run 60 fps at 1080p right?
All I know is until I build a new gaming PC, it's not worth upgrading my GTX 970. My CPU is so fucking old and I really could do with a new motherboard, not to mention I bought my case etc when I was a poorfag.
Anyway what's the rush? Do you actually think many games will come out in the next few years requiring a killer PC? If you have a GTX 970 or 980 your PC is already better than the current generation of consoles, and since most big games are multiplats I don't see the point.
>>339573615
>VooDoo 6 happens the same time GTX 1170/1180 happen, showcasing 3DFX+XLMC magic technology
>only drawback is 110C+ temps
Now that the 970 and 980 are going to go down in price, what kind of motherboard/processor should I be looking into if I want to put a rig together?
>>339573247
Ya honestly I think that's still pretty good.
If AMD's claims are met this will be an exciting comeback time for them. I miss the days where AMD was the fucking king...I want them to come back. Please AMD, be king again.
Create another Athlon 64 and 4850/5870...
>>339573941
TN?
>>339574026
>just buy a card capable of 1440p
Does the GTX 1070 apply to this? I haven't seen benchmarks.
How long until non-reference cards?
>>339574001
IDK, I've never owned one. The brief research on that monitor I did showed most people were happy with their purchase. I'm still waiting until I can get something 1440p for closer to $200.
>>339574026
144hz TNs look like hot fucking garbage. Supersampling is fine but 144hz is a meme unless you're playing on an ips.
so a gtx 980 can play games that use vulkan, right?
>>339574123
http://www.tnpanel.com/tn-vs-ips-va/
The monitor I mentioned is a cheap low input lag IPS that can be overclocked to 120hz regularly. It's the best of both worlds.
>>339573970
>All quoted prices are in DUDE WEED DOLLARS
God damn, Canadialand
>>339574123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkiZdSBux9E
>>339570225
I'm waiting. My GTX 780 is still pulling through nicely.
I admit I wanted to buy GTX 1070, but I'm gonna wait for AMD competition. Maybe it'll result in Nvidia lowering their prices.
>>339570225
>polaris releases on 29th
seriously how fucking of a insecure pussybitch company are you, will order 1070 the moment evga release their variant
>>339574248
Probably. AMD aren't complete fucking assholes.
Expect optimization to not be the best though, at least in the early stages.
>>339574132
Some are already announced, but without price/launch date. So they can't be far behind the reference release, especially since most manufacturers appear to be slapping their 1080 coolers on the 1070. Also Asus has some marketing mumbo jumbo on their page for their STRIX 1070 about being the first to have a fully automated GPU production line ( https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING/ ). Hopefully that means that they can pump them out faster than before.
>>339574263
>>339574336
Thank you. GTX 1070 with a 1440p monitor it is.
Now to wait and see which manufacturer produces the best one.I bet it's GIGABYTE
>>339574263
Shit you can overclock your monitor to do 120hz? Why don't any of these bad boys come like that stock? I mean I have a 144hz but it's a plain old panel, nothing special or amazing about the quality.
>>339574105
ones that are compatible with each other?
>>339574813
Yes
>>339574926
pcpartpicker.com
literally retard-proof
>>339572771
Not barely, but probably 10-15% better at best
>>339573536
My 670 is still holding up well enough considering its age. I don't see how you can say a 770 is showing its age 'really bad'.
>>339574295
This was a time before dude weed was even a thing.The dollar is much much MUCH worse now
>>339573835
60Hz->144Hz is a much bigger improvement than 1080p->1440p
>>339574105
Anything with an LGA-1151 socket from a respected manufacturer (I prefer Asus, but maybe I'm just a fanboy) should be good/relatively future proof, the i5-6600k seems to be really popular as well. You could also wait for Zen to come out at the end of the year on AM4 if you want better price/performance.
>>339575071
I can't seem to play anything at 60fps. Like ever
Is this yet another Nvidia shill thread?
$400-600 for a graphics card is fucking obscene. It's amazing at how Nvidia has systemically increased the average cost of cards and killed the old mid-range.
>>339570871
more than RX 480 which is better than 980 and costs only $199
Nvidiots just like
>Or I can spend $380 and have superior performance
Nvidia superior perfomance = 40% more expensive than last gen of his gpu.
>"better cooling"
Nvidia GTX 1080 F.E reaching 87c and throattling
>better driver support
Nvidia drivers burning cards with his "WHQL Certified" drivers
> and games that are designed specifically for it.
Games with nvidia gimpworks breaking games like Batman arkham knight.
fcking sheeps
>>339573849
When GTX960 were released at $210ish, GTX 970 is available for $350ish.
GTX 960 generally perform 40 ~ 50% less than GTX 970, and with that price rate it pretty much put it in the same bracket as GTX970 value/performance.
Right now you're talking about a GPU that perform 20% less than GTX 1070, at $140 less.
It would absolutely skew GTX1070 price/perf unlike GTX960 did to GTX970.
>>339574971
>>339575148
Thanks I'll do some looking into
>>339574360
If you're going to buy a GTX 1070 then you might as well buy one at launch (assuming Nvidia doesn't do any "founders edition" bullshit). Nvidia will never cut the price on it, look at the 970.
AMD will only be competing on price-point, not on performance.
>>339575085
I really hope you guys dont get anymore worse than us down south, I've been reading your shit and I thought our government was going retard
>>339575263
The whole SJW invasion on America come from southern Ontario just so you are aware.
>>339575141
How so
yea I plan on building a new pc once these cards are released and they fix all the bugs
still on a 8 year old duocore
>got a vive
>have a 770
I can't wait any longer i need to upgrade
I want to play raw data and some other rpg
>>339572771
The fuck you talking about. All of leaks and info suggest its on 980 level
>>339575159
You have no idea what you're talking about.
600$ for top of the line card was a norm since the 6800.
If anything they made top performance much more affordable with the introduction of 8800GTS which later turned into X70 cards.
Before that you had a shitty X20 low end card, a mid range X60 and top of the line X80 card.
Now even their low end X50 cards are pretty good and they stopped wasting their time and left that slot for intel HD cards.
For one that had a 5200FX for 3 (three) fucking years it's much easier to run games now.
>>339573232
Let's help each other out. I'll sell my 970 to you for $200 and put that towards a 1070.
Jumping on it won't be worth it unless you're dead set on VR
>>339575331
Just keep Frenchada off of my land and Im cool
What's the point of 4k? It seems like the text would be way too mall to see if you're going to have the whole screen in your peripheral view, but then it will be too hard to get a full view of the screen up close.
1080p seems fine, then 1440p seems like the ideal view/
Why on earth would I want this? My 770 still does just about everything I could want out of it.
>>339576589
>It seems like the text would be way too mall to see
This is a problem with the operating system, NOT the resolution itself. OS X actually looks good on higher DPI screens, and so do some Linux distributions.
>1080p seems fine
Because that's what you're used to. 1080p on computer monitors, and 1440p for that matter, is still not approaching the point where pixels are too small to distinguish from a normal viewing distance.
>>339570225
9 TF BEasT
>>339576637
For only being 2GB it's a pretty solid card. It's why I can't quite justify a new card yet.
>Been stuck with Radeon HD 7850 and absolutely poor CPU for few years
>Finally upgrading whole rig during summer
Current PC transforms into a grill once starting current games like Vermintide and Overwatch on medium. Really considering 1070 since I don't want to overspend on gaming computer right now.
>>339570225
I was planning on buying 1080 on release, but I was stupid enough not to include about +50% to the initial price.
Silly me.
>>339577619
>PC transforms into a grill
Did you fuck?
what's the difference between founders edition and a regular 1080??
EVGA FTW 1080 SHIPPING
WHEN
I WANT MY CARD EVGA
>>339578780
>EVGA
why not wait and seethe other third-party cards?
>>339578707
Founder's Edition just has an Nvidia cooler/design. The regular non-founder ones from various vendors will have the same PCB, but the vendor coolers/design.
>>339578846
Partially because EVGA hasn't done me wrong for my past 3 cards. Also because other models look similar enough.
>http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html
I could have held out for the Classified edition from EVGA, but eh. I'll step up to it if I can later, and otherwise FTW will still carry me for the next four years.
what sorta stuff would i need to be doing to warrant a 1080? i'm planning to upgrade from a radeon hd7800 for streaming/game purposes, but would a 1070 be enough to fit that need?
>You could also run two RX480 units simultaneously, a configuration that managed to beat out NVIDIA's GTX 1080. (And better yet, that configuration would only be around $400, compared to $600 or more for the 1070.)
FUCK LADS ITS OVER
and dx12 so no microstutter
>>339579926
how about you look at a couple of benches and see the specs?
1080 is a ~20% faster 980ti so i guess if you want to play games at max at 60fps then get it
or wait for what amd releases if you want
Hoping that Nvidia makes this generation's 750Ti or 560Ti.
>>339578707
It is the regular 1080. Nvidia's marketing thought it would be a genius idea to give the normal/reference card a slight redesign, say they use premium materials, and charge more for what is essentially the same as the cards with aftermarket that you're used to buying from various vendors like Asus, MSI, etc etc. If you like blower style coolers, the "founders edition" is just a 1080 with one of those. If you don't like blower coolers, get one from a board partner when they release theirs with their own cooling.
>>339580193
its here senpai
>>339576175
>>339576175
>>339579926
>what sorta stuff would i need to be doing to warrant a 1080?
VR and/or 4k. Although it's not quite capable of maxing out 4k, so it's not going to last you more than a year or two if you are the type of person to care about being on the bleeding edge.
>>339580643
hmm well the 1070 will suit me well then. thx
>>339580824
The 1070 is really well positioned right now. It's good for 1080p at 144hz, 1440p at 60hz, and can handle 4k and VR at lower settings than a 1080 if you really wanted to.
>>339580974
Is there a big difference between 60hz and 144hz?
>>339570225
ill wait for the evga and msi shit to come out.
Heard you need a new power supply for this? something to do with the pin connectors being 8 pin
>>339570225
970 owner here. Going to wait for the 1170.
>>339582268
Yeah, about 84hz.
>>339582268
im running at a 100hz and you do feel the difference at those HZ. i dunno whether getting a monitor for that is the right idea but 2k andtrying to reach60fps is good for me
>>339582268
It depends on what you play. I mainly play fast paced games like shooters and real time strategy, so for me it was a massive upgrade and my old 60hz monitor feels like playing through mud.
If you play slower games, I really doubt it'd make a noticeable difference though.
good 144hz monitor with a 970gtx?
>>339582970
what
Which one of following GTX 1080s has the best cooler Gigabyte, Asus or MSI?
>>339570578
I'm only paying attention cause I'm finally building a pc and for just 80 dollars more the 1070 kills anything else on the market close to that dollar point.
>bought the 1080 last week
>it arrived yesterday
>installed it and was ready to play all the games on ultra that I couldn't before
>the latest games I have is Dead Rising 3 and Black Desert
>tfw I forgot that I don't even have games that can truly show this thing off
I'm thinking about buying Doom now? I was interested in the game anyways, but was holding off because I had a shit GPU before.
>>339586348
I don't know about cooling, but Asus allegedly has much better quality resulting from having a fully automated production line. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-auto-extreme-graphics-card-production,29252.html I have no idea if their claims hold up and it actually is significantly better than their competitors though. The reasoning behind why it would be better is solid imo, I would lean towards believing Asus.
>>339570225
I upgrade my GPU every 2 years. I'll be making the jump from 970 to 1070 next year
>>339570225
>JUST bought 970
J U S T
I'll sell my 970 on ebay and upgrade to the 1070. Seems like a good move.
>>339584405
>>339584474
>>339584647
are you ok
>>339587352
How much are they going for now
I was going to buy a 970 but decided to wait until the 1070 came out. Since my rid is pretty mediocre anyway, it''s bottleneck anything higher and I'd only really play games at 1080p anyway.
>>339587572
Between 250 to 300€ here in Germany for the Gigabyte G1. So I'm looking at a ~150€ investment for a substantial upgrade. Really cool with that.
>>339587761
Same reason I'm going for 670->1080. I'm only going to be on 1080 for the foreseeable future, but I'm going to be upgrading to 2560x1440 or 1920x1200 in the next year or so for sure. The 1080 will be the perfect thing to tide me over until the 1470/1480 or whatever the hell they're calling them at that point.
AMD is poo on street
go for 1070 or 1060 ti and thank me later
>>339570225
waiting. October/November ain't that long a wait, to see whether AMD outperforms it, or Nvidia buckles to lower the price of a 1070/970/980ti to compete with a 480
>>339572893
>choosing 4k over 120hz+
Fuck off with that shit lmao
I won't upgrade until I get a new monitor, and if I get a new monitor it'll be 1440p.
The 1070 and 1080 do look enticing, but AMD saying their 480 is only going to be 200 bucks has me curious. Allegedly it's stronger than a 980ti which can do 1440 decently, so if the 490 is priced and powerful proportionately to the 480 I may go AMD this round.
But I'm not holding my breath. The 970 seemed too good to be true and it was. The 480 may just be smoke and mirrors. I'm not one to count my chickens before they hatch. I'll wait for all these cards to be released and for second and third wave drivers to hit before I decide anything. Pre launch driver performance are often just lies, and launch day drivers are never indicative of performance 2 years down the line.
>>339571920
>have i5 and 720m
>cant run any new games on even low
teach me you baitfaggot
>$800 AUD
JUST
>tfw you want AMD to live so Nvidia doesn't get complete monopoly which raises prices but you'd never consider buying AMD stuff
>recommend AMD to everyone
>no face to post
>>339573232
get the fucking RX480 for 199 you shit
>>339571571
No is talking about it but.... you guys do know that Sony is coming out with a PS4K soon right? And that AMD runs the console market right? What are the odds this new system or w/e is using Palaris? Could we see the first console that is on par with a PC (for about 6months)?
>>339586348
G1 always
>>339595959
Why?
>>339595993
Not him. MSI has been pretty consistent.
Getting the 1080 Strix. Don't give a fuck
1070 enough for 300+ fps in csgo @ 1080p144hz? and some solidworks?
I get 250ish frames right now with a 7860+6300, and I want to upgrade
>people ITT will buy the reference... i mean, the founders edition
just wait and see the threads about power trottling.
WHO RX480 HERE
WAITFAGS AND POORFAGS WON
salaryfag here
>tfw enough money to upgrade every year
Gtx 1070 (and, for what brings to the table, 1080) looks very interesting so i'd totally see myself upgrade to it.
Ob the other hand, my 960 is still plenty for my needs, i doubt i'll change my 1080p monitor anytime soon and don't have yet a ps4.
So, instead of dropping 400ish $ on a new gpu that i don't really need just yet and would warrant a extra expense for a new monitor i might aswell wait and grab a ps4k for the time being.
Completely personal situation, of course.
>>339573287
dude upgrade and let me buy the 970 from you
my 7870 just died and i need a new card
that being said im keeping my eye on the 480
if AMD is coming back im willing to drop some money on the smaller side so theres come real competition in the market again
>>339570681
Gonna be going to a 1070 from a 670. Can't fucking wait to max out Doom and continue playing the fuck out of it.
>>339570271
Going to wait until july or august
>>339572135
1070 is 370$ or 380$ one of the two
>>339573250
Me and him got memed hard by the 3.5
Its starting to be an issue
>>339586703
do you have TW3? its not like HOLYFCUK CUMMING DEEZ GRAPHICS but the whole package is fucking great, visuals voice audio soundtrack storygameplay is iffy but i enjoyed it, its how witcher games have always beenplus the new dlc just came out
have you tried any of the arma games? they're notorious for being hard to run because of the hueg as fuck maps and they're also quite cpu intensive iirc
they're fun as fuck if you have 3-10 people to play with
if you're just looking for visual fidelity i donno man, rise of the tomb raider looks pretty good cranked up
>>339586703
try something with DX12 DOOM is open GL so it wouldn't be showing off really
>>339580034
>sli/crossfire
>ever
Fuck no
>>339570225
$400 for Titan level performance is tempting but I'll wait for AMDs $200 shitter first. Or just wait for the next thing? Both these are GDDR5 I thought.
