Why are people in such denial that this bitch is overpowered?
>>339559902
She's not?
People have this strange notion that just because you can also pick Widowmaker shes not overpowered
>>339559902
Sniperfags are super cancer
>>339559902
She's legit my only complaint about the game. Everybody else is pretty balanced except her. Her shit needs more time to charge up, does too much damage on bodyshots, and head hitboxes are too big.
>>339559902
Probably console players, I'm convinced a majority of the shitposting involving balance is from them. The amount of comments on /v/ alone I've read that say some stupid shit like "mcree is useless past 10 feet" leads me to believe there's no way in hell these people play with a mouse.
Maybe you should not run around in open areas
>>339560342
I completely forgot that a lot of these retards are playing without a mouse, so shit like Widowmaker getting bodyshots for 80% of your health seems balanced to them
I love seeing a Widow main on the enemy team, then picking Widow and deleting him 5 times in a row.
Most satisfying feeling knowing that I'm ruining that fuckers fun.
>>339560401
Because window can only fire her low risk, high reward, hitscan, infinite range, fast-firing, high damage gun in open areas.
>>339559902
It's not so much that she's overpowered, it's just that it's really hard to make a counter to someone who can take shots from half the map away with pinpoint accuracy and one-shot damage.
As it stands right now Widowmaker's only counter is another Widowmaker.
Why do people still care so much about PotG? It's a team-based shooter, watching a 5 second repeat of you killing stuff is irrelevant. Is it a remnant of more solo-oriented shooters or is it just epeen shit?
>>339559902
why are people in such denial that this game is crap?
>>339559902
People bad at sniping get 4 kills and 2 deaths spending most of the game trying to get sights on someone before they die or running away frantically as a Genji spooks them.
The moment someone with fast reaction time and decent experience with the game's maps and general sniping gets hold of her you wind up with POTGs where they stand at one end of a kill corridor and team kill with ease.
She shoots too fast, reloads too fast, has far too big a clip, and is a big ol' stupid head.
I literally play only winston just to kill widows.
>>339559902
>Widowmaker is overpowered
The dumbest thing I have read today. She just has a high skill ceiling. You only need to worry about the good Widowmakers. Shitty ones are useless save for wallhacks.
>>339559902
>enemy team all take widowmaker
>rekt them with macree
1 headshot and goodbye.
>>339559902
Maybe, when you get shot by a sniper in a game you don't show your face again until they engage another target.
Or play Rein, Soldier, Dwarf, Tracer, Dva, or any other character capable of countering/out shooting her.
Her jumping hitbox is too small. I keep flanking these cunts and they just jump around and I can't hit them.
Holy shit the weekly brawl is fucking trash. One map for the whole week? Bring back mystery hero and let it stay blizz you fucking retards.
>play as Winston
>I'm the dedicated Widow/Hanzo/Bastion killer
>shit on their cereal whenever I get the chance, and have a ton of fun doing it
>rarely get killed because his main counters are offensive characters like Reaper and they're usually far away on the front line
>>339559902
You can take her out faster than almost any other character, minus D.Va without her mech and one or other two.
The only thing you need to defeat her, or to at least not getting your ass handed is awareness, and that doesn't come with a patch, you scrubs.
For the record, I don't like her, I rather be tank or support, but she's far from overpowered, it's just you handful of suckers that can only see only what's around you.
>>339560726
The genji vs Hanzo thing?
Shit is fun
>>339560726
what's the benefit of brawling? Like in Hearthstone you get packs.
>>339560507
Of course not but at short range she'll miss
>Winston and jump in her face and left click to kill
>DVA and fly in her face and left click to kill (if youre a good shot)
>Make the Widow rage in chat and tilt
Was it that hard?
>>339560401
I think a lot of the maps are pretty poorly designed to give that kind of advice. There are little side areas but most of them just offer HP or bring you up onto the 2nd level of the same linear path. If you don't have wall running or flight you really don't have any options for moving outside the designated route.
everyone in this game is both over powered and needs to be buffed especially that one character that kills people way to easily and the one that doesn't get any kills cause they stink
Her and her sniper buddy Hanno are chief evidence that this is a casual console shooter first and foremost. They're balanced fine for players using controllers, but holy shit the biggest garbage man average players on Earth can shut matches down with them using M+KB.
She's annoying as fuck because she can just spam bodyshots and make life hell for offense and support classes. At least you can just pick winston and ruin her day.
>>339560873
>that torb is a fellow countryman
lmao
wah wah sniper rifles do too much damage. What do you want her to have a peashooter? That would make sniping useless.
>>339559902
Probably because most of the people who play her are fucking terrible. Theres always at least one on each team but I almost never even realize they're there. Its just an empty pick, the player might as well not even exist.
>>339560401
>Walk past a slight opening
>"Nothing can hide from my sight"
>Die
>Wasn't even the Widow, because the rest of her team gets constant wallhacks as well
>>339559902
> he plays kiddy games seriously
>>339560873
Fucking italians
>>339559902
Just lower her charge time.
>charge is so quick it might as well be non-existent
>>339561038
It's French
It's another
>Widowmaker on your attacking team and she rarely gets kills and never goes for objectives
Game
>>339559902
>overpowered
Flank her. Get out of her line of sight. Pray if you face a good one.
>>339559902
Shes a traditional sniper and one of the few classes that take half a brain/skill to use. So of course shes OP in Overwatch (the game where most shit is made extremely simple).
Blizzard is in a fucked position. If you reduce her damage - shes now useless as a sniper. Her entire core concept CANNOT exist in Overwatch's hugbox gameplay modes. Its like a part of sniping in CS:GO existed in Overwatch.
So. Kids get salty when they get sniped. They they refuse to go Widow to counter Widow - or a Genji/Tracer (bad choices)
>Every Competitive Overwatch Game Ever
>(1-2) Winston/Rein on Offense, sometimes Zarya on Defense
>(2) McCree (SOMETIMES Pharah on certain maps)
>(2) Lucio and Mercy, sometimes Symmetra if on Defense
>(1) Widow
Nothing else is ever picked. Ever.
>>339560062
this, body shots are the problem, i hardly even bother headshotting anymore
>>339561068
The game is in Italian, m8
>>339559902
Can someone explain to me how I have a very good internet connection yet have to play Overwatch with around 160 ping? It's nearly unplayable with how much I random twitch and jitter, or activate a skill only for it to rubber band to before I activated it
>>339560767
>Winston
>Bastion killer
u wot m8?
>>339561202
But torb nickname is in French.
>>339560831
I legit ran into some godlike Hanzos and Widowmakers that have no qualms running in and quickscoping the shit out of you.
>>339561005
Then don't walk past openings when you hear her announce it?
C'mon m8
>>339560989
>playing against a Widowmaker in the hands of a Quake/CS veteran
>>339561298
This.
When you face a Widow/Pharah/McCree player that can actually aim - it generates so much asspain.
Because 90% of /v/ is dogshit at this game and still thinks Mei and Bastion are OP.
She's good but requires mindgames and is more situational than she looks. Stay in the same space for more than a few seconds and Winston's on your ass. Try and play her offensively and Winston's on your ass. Try and build a team of her and Winston's wrecking all of your asses. If you play her defensively, only take shots when you can get the kill and you switch spaces frequently enough to trick/flank enemies that try and get you/dodge you then you'll have a grand old time.
>>339561267
Maybe it's a glitch but I never ducking hear an enemy Widow ulting. I'll just immediately die when rounding the corner then the kill cam shows she had it active.
>>339561264
That's not possible, the rifle has to charge
A quick scope would only be up to half strength at best
>playing widowmaker
>70% scoped hit rate destroying their team
>retard genji/tracer flank me
>shoot them to death with me machine gun and toxin grenade
Good job blizzard testers. Excellent work.
At least she doesn't shoot through people like that Deus Ex gun in TF2.
>>339561150
This tier list is very accurate and i agree completely
It's like they took the sniper from tf2 and made a version of him for handicapped people.
>>339561204
How far from Blizz servers are you?
>>339561393
Let's see your KD Ratio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIEY9-mPn4
>Playing against a Widowmaker that can snipe you mid air
>>339560401
You mean 80% of the maps?
>>339560989
>Widow? Nah, she isn't good. I barely even get hit by her
>Bastion? Nah, he sucks. Every character counters him
>Symmetra? Nah, the only thing she has going for her are teleporters. Her gun doesn't even do any damage.
What else am I missing?
according to this board literally everyone is OP. its almost like people get rekt in the game then come here to bitch about being owned by someone with better skill
>>339561237
Fokken cheese muncher :^)
>>339561547
What's the closest server to northern Louisiana (Shreveport)?
>>339560819
For about an hour it gets boring fast
>>339561486
Her ultimate used to charge a lot faster. Her sniper shots used to consume 1 ammo as well.
The people that say Widowmaker is balanced are the same people that say Bastion is OP.
>>339561150
This list is so shit it's almost offensive.
>>339561576
this is absolutely terrifying to watch
>>339561486
giving widow an assault rifle that does 130 dps was fucking retarded. If she can bodyshot a winston before he gets on top of her she will actually beat him in a duel because she can pump out 400 damage in 3 seconds while he can only do 150
>>339561227
>find a Bastion
>jump on him
>drop a shield to stop his turret fire leaving the bubble, completely fucking him up unless he gets up and moves
>hug his robot ass and tesla him to death/get teammates to rush in once he's focused on you and pick off the rest of his health
Remember to use your shields.
>>339561150
>tier lists
>in a game based around counter picking
wew lad when will this bait end
>playing against a widowmaker that can actually aim
nobody can know peace from this evil
>>339560614
>high skill ceiling
>widowmaker
she is literally the easiest sniper to play in any shooter ever made. she has no weakness.
>>339561393
Mei is incredibly OP if your team is retarded and floods into the enemy one at a time.
>>339561763
>>339561825
The best part about this list is how it brings out the shitters.
Go watch every recent OW tourny.
But you won't - not that it matters since you're likely shit at the game anyways.
>>339561825
>counter a bastion
>he is useless
>counter a widow
>still get fucked because she is broken
wew lad
>>339561576
Why are they all running in a straight line? If they don't want to get hit by widow, why not tic tac?
And they call themselves pros.
>>339560461
>enemy team has a widow thats good
>no matter how good she is I give her the monkey dick consistently
>nothing she can do to stop me
Feels good
>>339561576
>Koreans
Not really fair
>>339561978
>what is tracer
Just flank her retard. You can unload a full clip into that gorgeous booty before she can react.
>>339561884
Everything in Overwatch is easy as shit. Widowmaker in comparison is slightly more demanding.
>>339560507
>Infinite range.
Wasn't that debunked?
>>339561576
>Cheating
>>339561897
Sounds like the problem is retards, your argument is invalid.
>>339562138
>the hero with overpowered body shots on a 1.5 second charge that can grapple hook and have wallhax is more demanding
hah
waw
she is completely broken and stupid but winston literally wipes his ass with her. just remember this when theres that one faggot in his perch he never moves from.
>>339561150
>Winston
>Hard to master
>>339562138
ahahahahahahaahaahaha
>>339561816
I'm a Bastion shitter and your post is like something out of Bizarro world.
>The shield does nothing
>Leaving turret form when attacked by Winston is literally the worst possible thing to do
>Winston is so fucking big that no amount of flailing and jumping will get my reticle off him
Bastion cuts through Winston like a hot knife through butter, AFTER he puts the shield up.
>>339559902
>start getting killed by a widow
>switch to Winston and literally kill her in 2 seconds
>repeatedly
what's the problem?
>>339559902
They just need to nerf body shot damage and she's fine. The quick charge time isent even that bad if she cant instantly 1 shot you by clicking anywhere on your body.
>>339560873
>Give Widowmaker an ass worth watching all day long
>Game is only FPS
Fuck this gay Earth
>>339561150
>tier list
okay, lets say i take this seriously
>Widowmaker in top tier
>snipers at all above normal tier
bait
>>339562138
>Who is genji
>>339559902
she'll never be nerfed because at low level play (most people) she will be completely ineffective
>>339562291
The shield absorbs over two seconds of fire, and if you break through I can just primal and knock you flying. I haven't had problems with a single Bastion, honestly. Are you used to Winstons just standing there or something?
>>339561468
Not him, a 10% headshot, most quickscopes, still does 160 damage.
If I see someone on my team pick Widow, I assume we{re down a member. Snipers play a single player game and forget all about the objective. Best you can hope for is that the other team has one too and they cancel each other out.
>>339562086
This. Even if she just has to displace all around the map all game, doesn't matter, bitch isn't sniping anymore
>>339562860
>someone plays widow on a koth map
>>339562539
The shield lasts more like one second, and Winston's ult doesn't move sentry form Bastion. It's understandable not to have problems with Bastion though, since most of the people that play him are the worst players imaginable.
Also, never use Winstons ult on Bastion, it doesn't work out. If I'm already damage when he gets mad, I'll just snap out of sentry form, and then back into it while flying through the air and burn him down before he can close the distance, even with the jump.
Once you start getting matched with people who can actually aim, the entire game starts to revolve around Widow and McCree.
It's boring as hell, and they need a fat nerf.
>>339562860
>tfw the enemy team has a widow or hanzo on attack
>overtime with the cart inches from the goal
>they don't run in and the game ends
Thanks for the win
>>339560782
>minus D.Va without her mech
You have to fucking catch me first faggot. and my average of 1.6 deaths a game while maining D.va shows that I'm not a sitting duck.
>mfw I use my pistol to kill people from far away while my mech builds up and people can't find/catch me
>>339559902
She takes skill
Go ahead and laugh, I'm laughing at your inability to play her.
>>339561150
>Zero Suit D.Va is literally useless.
>Has one of the best short/med burst weapons in the game.
>Hitbox is fucking tiny.
Oh okay it's a joke list.
>>339560873
Torby respects that home town, good man.
>>339563181
The pistol does a nice damage input, but she goes from armored peashooter to glass cannon. I love her.
>>339562957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIEY9-mPn4
such a balanced hero, singlehandedly spawncamping an entire team
>>339563407
It's great, it truly is a jarring change of pace, but every time my mech dies, enemies swarm on me cause they think I'm an easy kill without my mech, and 8 times out of 10 I always manage to either kill most, or escape until my mech is ready again. Fools will chase a mechless d.va for days.
>>339563339
>play dva on koth today
> go 36 and 0
>mfw noob tracer thought I would be an easy kill suitless
We better get a map of Junkertown soon.
reminder your rank is gonna reset every single season
honestly, what is the point of even doing ranked
>>339563449
Jesus christ thats insane.
But he isn't the norm. most snipers will try to find a spot they think is secluded and will miss pot shots constantly, giving away their position.
>>339563449
oh i know pine, he asked to be in my tf2 group, pretty good sniper, but kinda weird
>>339563887
What's the point of video games?
it's something that people get enjoyment out of.
>>339563449
>koreans
>cheating
>>339559902
She's like, the shittiest character in the game. There is no reason to choose her over Hanzo. And the Auto rifle function of her gun is hot shit
>>339563887
What are you talking about, ranked mode isn't even out yet. Are you thinking about the player levels? Those don't reset for sure.
>>339563449
>koreaboos
Not even surprised
>>339562127
koreans are shit at fps though, this guy's the exception, not the norm
>>339563449
>Koreans being the absolute gods and using the literal most power things available to them exclusively
What's new?
>>339562132
>tracer can scale walls now
>>339564378
If your team is doing their fucking job she wont be on a wall
because mccree and lucio are actually overpowered.
All characters are overpowered
>>339561204
I've been having the same issue. My ping is typically 20-30 but when playing overwatch it's 90-100.
>>339563449
>singlehandedly
>has a pocket mercy healing and boosting him
>>339559902
>Widowmaker on Attack
>never snipe bastion
>never snipe torbjorn turrets
>just die to winston and junkrat
The fact that she never touches the point AT ALL on offense makes her lose games. She's pointless.
>>339563663
can't find sauce on just the pic, mind tossing me a bone here?
>>339564547
prove it
>>339564885
Don't know it
>>339562539
>I can just primal and knock you flying.
Do you even play this game? The only thing that displaces a Bastion is hook or Zarya ult.
And, as others have said, Bastion cuts through winston shield instantly and kills him in seconds. Now if your post had been about non-ulted Tjorb turret, you'd be right; the turret doesn't fire fast enough to take down your shield before you kill it
>>339564305
Koreans aren't gods at FPS, this guy is an outlier
>>339559902
She's only powerful if someone who knows how to aim plays her, and that is a not surprisingly low percentage of players
>>339560820
For fun. You know, the reason you're supposed to be playing games.
>>339564852
>Play Bastion on Hanamura B defense
>Enemy has a Widow
>Dodge the extremely narrow ranged avenues so the Widow can't hit me without coming inside
>Destroy her when she does
>Also destroy the rest of their team
>Get potg
>Multiple enemy team members get fucking PISSED at the Widow
I'd feel bad for the guy if he wasn't a Widow who didn't switch even when getting literally nothing done.
>>339559902
I think her ult charges too fast
>mfw I berate all the Bastions after each game
So what's the fucking point of the Origins edition for the actual game itself? Just skins?
I think the charge needs to be longer.
She is one of those characters that I feel guilty about playing because she is so easy to play. Hitscan weapon, the head hitboxes are fucking massive so you dont even have to be on mark to get instant kills and plays of the game all the fucking time.
She is broken, maybe not on consoles where people aim like crippled orangutans, but on PC you can pull of charged headshots with no effort whatsoever.
>>339559902
>Insanely Fast Scope Charge time
>10 Shots in a clip, very spammable fire rate
>For Some reason she's a 200hp class
>Sniper rifle does not unzoom on shot
>Her aim isn't thrown off by shooting at her
>Other characters ults are canceled/wasted if they die, not her, that shit just goes even if she dies.
>Other characters ults have a call out, not her, and her's is arguably better than some kill move.
>Her Ult is arguably the best in the game, seeing as it has the potential to completely deny flanks and pushes. Wallhacks are no laughing matter.
>Reaper's teleport marker is visible to everyone, Yet she doesn't get a Laser sight to show where she's aiming.
>Mercy's self defense tool is a seperate weapon so she has to switch to it. Not her, both AR and Sniper rifle are the same gun so fuck weapon switch times.
>Her AR does about the same damage as S76's
>Has a good escape tool, can use it to easily escape D.vas who are supposed to be the "Anti Sniper"
>Has an Anti-Flank trap that, even when destroyed, tells her theres someone there
>The Game is already pretty slow, and 20 ticks per second doesn't help.
>The only counter to widowmaker is widowmaker
There is no flaw.
If D.va Or winston jump at her, she'll just hookshot away and snipe the fuck out of them while their jump moves is on Cooldown.
IVE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
IVE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
IVE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTSIVE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
>>339565940
Just the shitty skins, they are pretty bad to begin with and you get far better skins ingame, dont get the origins edition. I regret it, a lot. Then again I regret buying this low skill ceiling casual pandering, forced 50% winrate piece of SHIT game in the first place.
>>339566127
What am I supposed to be looking at here?
>>339566127
The fact that you can pick duplicate heroes, even in pro games means that this game is as good as dead. When you take soldiers and one widow, you literally cannot be stopped. Me and my pals went on a 20winstreak which is against the forced 50% winrate, that is bound to fuck us in the ass if we ever play on our own again. THAT BALANCE.
Widow mains, how do you live with yourself?
>>339566428
>maining
I wonder how these losers live with themselves, being a detriment to the team, 100% of the time. Picking waifus instead of characters that the team needs. I can see this killing the competitive mode real fast.
>>339566127
I just won a game where our pug randomly all picked 76 and steamrolled
cart pushing + dropping AOE heal on the cart really kills 'em
they even tried a Reinhardt country but we took his shield down instantly with all 6 of us spamming it
wish I'd saved the replay though, they used a surprise zaria ult on us and then a reaper ult to get an instant team-kill which was cool
>>339565057
they are the most frequently picked heroes in competitive, and because its frequently picked at the highest skill level there must be some inherent advantage that sets them apart from other heroes that their weaknesses don't cover.
ive noticed the characters sometimes talk to each other now
>67 to pharah "you learn that from your mom"
>tracer to lucio "wanna race"
>>339566118
while widowmaker in her current form is imbalanced some of the things you've said are just plain inaccurate.
>>339565057
Lucio is a mandatory pick on EVERY team comp, sometimes even double Lucio. Same thing with McCree.
Widowmaker on the other hand is a situational pick.
>>339566425
>Forced 50%
KEK
Git gud.
I have a 60% winrate.
>>339567087
But you're not going to tell us what they are?
>>339559902
I want her Huntress skin so bad
>hit a perched widow with a pharah E
>hit widow mid air with a rocket
>widow dies
>>339561150
>Genji
>Shit
Genji without his ultimate can destroy all heroes that don't use beams
Genji with his ultimate will destroy everyone
>>339567152
It's pointless responding to shitposters, but I'll try (not him):
Her ult is definitely not the best as it is situational and largely benefits her.
She doesn't need a laser sight because a single shot is loud as fuck and completely visible compared to Reaper (you have to look to where he's teleporting to).
Her AR does less damage than S76 and has significantly more recoil.
Her hook line is on a 12s CD which means Dvas can easily keep up with her + it needs something to latch to.
Her trap sucks and like you said is only there to alert her to flanks, but is often better used offensively anyways since it does respectable damage.
Widowmaker is countered by Tracer, Genji, and Dva.
>>339567272
>believing this
Genji is one of, if not the weakest offensive character.
>Widowmaker
>More OP then McCree
When pro team comps have 2 McCrees a piece hes a way larger issue. Fan the hammer stun is the easiest combo to get a kill in the game and basically guaranteed.
> The feel when absolutely wrecking peoples shit playing as Hanzo.
I dont get this Widow OP meme, honestly. I played her a few times and it wasnt anything special, while i've been exclusively playing Hanzo for a few days and have been an absolute beast.
I mean sure. If you want her nerfed, whatever. By all means.
>>339559902
Why does her ultimate persist through death?
Why does her ultimate barely have a call out even though it lasts 20 seconds long?
Why does her ultimate benefit her teammates?
WHY WHY WHY
>>339564885
>>339565068
http://exhentai.org/g/934026/923b90812f/
you fucking useless piece of human trash use your brain next time, losers. I only help you society feces this time because this doujin is too good to keep it for my self
>>339567539
>flick shotting bitches
>>339567449
Obviously you've never played one of those lvl 60, no life, autism Genjis.
He just has a really highest skill ceiling. Genji is either the best hero in the game, or the worst. Biggest "Player skill difference" hero in the game.
>>339564293
>shit at fps
Probably because they don't play any of the ones you know. Sudden attack is basically CS and one of the biggest games at Korean PC Bangs
just bought this game lads
>tfw paid 60€ for a tf2 copy
having regrets already
>>339560562
A good Hanzo is far better and worth more than a Widowmaker any day, though
>>339568047
The general skill distribution of this game is so low that even a mediocre TF2 player can carry wins as any hero.
And anyways, right now the only thing you have to do is maintain your winrate to "do well."
>>339559902
She'd be fine if only SHE got the ability to see through walls. But instead her ENTIRE team get's the ability too.
>>339559902
Because Stillwatch is a kids game for Twitch
Nobody gives a fuck about balancing, as long you can write LuL Kappa in the chat
>>339568282
4head rekt 1G
>>339567447
>Her ult is definitely not the best as it is situational and largely benefits her.
>situational
>largely benefits her
Thanks for putting this right at the beginning so i won't bother read your WoW/HS player opinion.
>>339567447
>Wallhacks help EVERYONE
You completely deny flanks for the entire time they're up. Its also incredibly easy to prepare when you know someones comming around the corner, you'll get the first hit.
Characters like Reaper, Tracer, Genji and any other flank based character will not be able to function, and they dont even get to know the ult is up.
>Tracer rounds dont balance sniper characters
Snipers are about area denials, odds are you know where they are no matter what, you just know the best sniper spots and that point is instantly moot, Its better to warn players before hand theres a sniper rather than after they're full of lead.
I mean I dont need tracer rounds to know the sniper is hiding behind her team in some vantage point location.
>Her AR does around the same damage actually, S76's is a range of 5-17. He has less bullet spread, she has a larger clip
>D.va used her charge first, Widowmaker's hook is off CD because she got into postion ages ago.
>She is not countered by D.va, D.va is pretty terrible against good widows actually. See last point. Tracer and genji really lack the tools to close the distance.
>>339560562
I blinked over to her as Tracer and tagged her with a sticky bomb and warped away. She has counters, you just gotta get creative. That being said, she is pretty fucking powerful.
>>339561267
>>339561456
Its no glitch. She is like symettra. She doesnt yell out globally that her ult is up. If you are in ear-shot of her you can hear her say it though. Its stupid.
>>339560726
they should rotate brawls every 2-3 days desu desu
>>339559902
Snipers were a mistake.
>>339560569
Zorya set up perfect ult catching everyone in enemy team, Rat gets PotG by trowing shit there.
Totally not fair.
Playing against Widowmaker gave me a newfound appreciation for how fucking good and well designed the Sniper in TF2 is.
Emphasizing headshots and the harsh penalty for missing shots not only made the class rewarding to play, but it made it feel less shitty when you got killed by one. His unrivaled long-range supremacy was balanced out by him being an easy kill if you got flanked at close range. Even things as small as being forced to scope out after every shot promoted skillful play.
On the other hand you having fucking widow, who is the polar opposite of everything the TF2 sniper was designed around. Every single thing about her is just cancer in its purest form. Her ult is the most bafflingly stupid thing ever put in an FPS.
>>339559902
>be lucio
>sneak behind her
>right click her off the edge
>watch team mauling her
Feels goodman
shes always a easy prey no matter what character are you with unless its a shitty supporter like pooinloo and zenyata
>>339560562
Hanzo in the right hands absolutely destroys Widow. He can tag her camp spot so she cant duck a corner, shoot a split arrow into any small area she camps in, pick her off from afar, and if the battle gets within even medium range he has the edge with better maneuverability.
Widow's are the least of my concerns as a Hanzo main.
>Get killed by Widowmaker constantly
>View killcam
>Its the luckiest kills I've ever seen
>WOOOOOOOOW got killed again by widow
>Fuck this game
>Switch to widowmaker for some easy farming
>Can't do shit
>Miss everyone
>People easily get behind me and I die
>Team actually tells me to switch from sniper cause I'm not doing shit
I hate video games.
>>339569598
>hate video games
>buy 100 dollars game
>then post on /v/
>>339568524
Would have to agree. It's pretty ridiculous how every ult in the game has a clear audible call out, but you can only hear a Widowmaker's ult go up if you're near her.
>>339569598
My go-to butthurt hero is winston, when I'm doing shit I just go bananas on the enemy and try to distract them on the off chance my distraction syncs up with my team engaging in a fight
Seems like even setting up a one-sided battle for my team is never enough and the people that insta-lock offense heroes just don't understand how to capitalize on their situations
>>339569598
You not only one shity sniper, saw them a lot, can't hit shit, doing nothing but dying.
>>339569751
>100 dollars game
OW isn't 100 dollars.
>>339569513
That's just not fucking true though. Her SMG is as powerful as 76's rifle, she has 200 hp and one of the best escapes in the game. Not to mention she has a tool to deal with flankers with the mine. Snipers SHOULD be sitting ducks at close range, but she just isn't for some reason.
>tfw pegging a long range widowmaker kill with Mei's icicle shot.
>>339569550
>Hanzo main
This is the real cancer.
>>339570303
>has wall hax for the whole team as an normal ability
>has an overpowered bounce rape arrow as another normal ability
>RYU GA TEKI FUCK YOU
>>339570279
>tfw when getting pegged irl
>>339559902
That scoliosis man, she should visit a doctor.
>Widow mains claiming Hanzo mains are cancer
>His bow doesn't turn into Soldier 76's weapon in close engagements
>>339570104
>one of the best escapes in the game
Her grappling hook in on a 12 second cooldown and she needs a visible ledge to get anywhere useful, The hook is the only thing remotely balanced about her.
>>339564063
how about
>shots do more damage than arrows
>scope charges up to full at about the same speed as arrow
>hitscan, this is a pretty big fucking difference
>assault rifle does as much as S76
>mobility ability
>arguably one of the most useful ultimates in the game
>Is countered only by Winston, maybe D.Va, or an enemy Sniper
If you are actually getting into games where you can kill more than one person with a Hanzo ult without a blackhole/hammer down you really need to play the game more.
I personally dont think Hanzo is bad and he is a lot of fun, but there is almost no reason to pick him over Widow except for getting the wall-hack at the start of the round, or because you know, hes fun
I literally can't hit anything with widow, not even bodyshots. I'm a shit sniper in general but in tf2 I can at least land bodyshots 90% of the time. Is it supposed to be harder?
Also what's that lockon thing when you're scoped in?
>>339559981
You're retarded?
Ugh
>>339561976
>he's good at a game with the lowest skill ceiling of any game ever made
>>339565269
koreans are literal autists at everything they put their mind to mastering
>>339559902
Since im a shitcunt I have it on console, she's essentially underpowered due to the inaccuracy. before any one asked, the reason I got it on console is because im autistically good in terms of accuracy with a controller, putting me at an advantage over most console fags
>>339567447
>situational
>seeing people through fucking WALLS
What situation would not call for that? The only fucking time it would be situational is if you have clear vision of ALL 6 of the enemy team.
>benefits her
Yeah, along with her entire fucking team, everyone gets an advantage from seeing through walls
>>339568524
Nah, I've heard that "personne n'echappe à mon regard" call-out in spawn before, with Widowmaker at the point.
>>339567514
Nigger, why do you think they also run 2 Winstons? its to counter Widow, McCree is picked because he has no actual counter except widow taking him out before he instantly kills someone
>>339561150
Roadhog is that high? I really like him but I'm surprised he's up that high
>>339560562
>Widowmaker's only counter is another Widowmaker
Winston and to a lesser extend Dva can also dumpster her easily.
>>339561576
So i have seen Widowmakers who kinda play like this, like going out from scope mode just to scope in under a second again. What's the point of that? Doesn't it give you a little bit faster damage boost if you just stay in scope mode? What's with the scope twitching?
>>339571023
are you likely to get banned if you hook up a keyboard and mouse to a console?
>>339566746
Does the healing stack?
>>339571163
>leap at an unaware Widow
>"hi there"
>Tfw have to buy the Origins edition just for the single skin i want in game, which knowing Blizz, will be not even be available as a DLC pack after
>>339571203
so you have a good awareness of your surroundings. it also doesn't matter if your shot isn't fully charged if you headshot.
>>339571317
wouldn't have a clue, I doubt it, either way using a keyboard and mouse would defeat on of the only key reasons I love controllers so much; the fact that i can sit on my couch/beanbag getting nice and comfy
>>339571045
>What situation would not call for that?
When they're all dead or you're defending an area that has 2-3 predictable entry points. Then it really only helps the Widow to score headshots with walls.
I'm not saying it doesn't benefit your team, rather that it's not the most OP shit in the game since everything is situational. For example I'd more often take a Zarya+Pharah ult or a Mercy res over just simple wall hacks when attacking.
>>339561649
Everyone can agree McCree is not supposed chew through tanks so easily.
>>339560726
It's better than the last one
Although I will miss 5 zarya vs 5 zarya dyke raves
>tfw you play Reinhardt, hear a Bastion start using his ult, and perfectly predict when he'll turn around the corner so you pin him against a wall before he can even get a shot off
>>339566118
>there is no flaw
>play widowmaker on offense
>lose the game because you play for kills instead of objectives
found the flaw
>>339559902
>lower smg damage by 50%
>bigger cd on rope and mine
>shorter ult up time
Fixed her
>>339560562
>forgetting about based ape
>>339571815
>denying the enemy team from having enough people to push the objective
>considered a flaw
>stay out of her field of sight
>never get shot by her
>???
>win game
>McCree getting nerfed.
>D.VA getting buffed.
I wholeheartedly agree on her getting buffed. But McCree nerf? Maybe just a little bit. Not I hope they don't destroy his kit.
>>339562152
Range isn't infinite but it's further than any line-of-sight you're likely to have.
>>339571386
>bought normal edition for 20 bones less
>buy 20 knockers worth of loot boxes
>get 4 gold skins and tons of other stuff like potg animations and emotes
>>339571879
>Widowmaker on offense denying the enemy team from pushing the objective
What
>>339571949
well considering blizzard balancing its going to be a slap on the wrist or something not very noticeable
>>339572076
I noticed D.VAs nerf.
>>339572051
can go the other way. killing someone on defence puts them in a longer respawn time than people in offence.
>>339571356
>She flies away like spider man
>>339572154
except how most sniping perches in the game are aimed at defending. There are hardly any places in the game that a sniper on offense can set up in. They exist. But are few. This means widow has to snipe in the middle of the road...guess what happens next.
>>339559902
Winstona and DVA both fuck her in the ass. Shes annoying but there are plenty of other dominant characters. Hell, good luck killing a good genji or tracer without using Mcree.
>>339572154
>implying widows snipe key targets instead of the first thing they see
>implying widows ever keep enemy bastions in check on offense
>implying the widow will bother to touch the point during overtime
>>339572182
>Widowmaker hookshot cooldown: 12 seconds
>HI THERE cooldown: 5 seconds
Sniperfags.
There's not a single FPS I can name that snipers did not actively ruin.
>>339572182
>you fly right after her with your jump that has less than 1/4th the cooldown of her grappling hook
>>339571903
This has to be the dumbest shit I've read today
>Stay out of sight
>In an objective based game
>>339572154
the longer respawn time is to mitigate the time it takes for people on offense to run back there you donut
>>339559902
>>339560050
Dont mind her because good ones are rare and games with her in them are basivcally 5v6
>>339561150
>Beam weapons pierce the shield
First hero I looked at and already a huge mistake. Zarya's beam doesn't pierce the shield at all. The only weapon that pierces shields is Symmetra's alt-fire.
>>339560873
Can someone explain how Widowmaker's are able to like float up after they hook on a ledge?
Also do you really have to fully charge a shot?
>>339572491
why are you using donuts as an insult? they're delicious.
>>339563449
>ape escape never drops shield
>nobody switches to Reinhardt
They deserved to lose.
>>339572696its not an insult. i think you are delicious
>>339572127
well that was back in the closed beta. now you have to consider the millions wanting nerfs for something that annoys them but theres also the comp focus buffs/nerfs
>>339563449
gooks better not dominate this game too
