When did you stop being a fan of them /v/?
I say 2015 E3 was the final straw for me.
>>339549830
Yeah, that's pretty much when I stopped as well.
Shortly after MGWT, when they announced more DLC and the amiibo.
>>339549924
MGWT?
>>339549830
The death of Iwata.
I mean, I don't have any real faith in Miyamoto, Reggie, Bill or any other personality at Nintendo anymore.
>>339549830
>>339549887
>>339549924
nintendofans on way to recovery
>>339549830
Right now, this post really changed my mind! Thanks op!
>>339549830
2015 definitely. They're just becoming more and more lackluster now. Their only saving grace this year is a fucking Kirby game. Nothing more. Not even be interested in their upcoming console because there's this feeling it's gonna be the same thing as the WiiU in a sense.
>>339549830
>When did you stop being a fan of them /v/?
Color. Fucking. Splash.
>>339549830
After Smash 4. Nothing as interested me since then. I don't hate them or anything, but the Wii U has left me disappointed. 3DS is ok.
If E3 2015 was the last straw, I don't know what to say.
That wasn't even their worst E3.
1999
>>339549830
I never really stopped, since all the games I like are on 3DS except for a few. As asinine as their recent NoA and mobileshit stuff is, I still can't bring myself to hate them.
>>339549830
When I bought the GC and GBA and later they announced the Wii.
I ragequitted nintendo and spilled my spagetti all over the forums.
>>339551205
Pretty much this. I'll keep an open mind on handheld for the most part, but the NX better be the second coming of Christ if they expect me to buy another one of their home consoles.
Federation Farce
>>339549830
Before the Wii came out they resorted to gimmick shit and I stopped buying their consoles. Although I still like the 3DS but I'm pirating everything on it.
>>339549830
Nintendo markets for a younger audience, always has. The only thing changing is you getting older.
>>339549830
Little bit ago, I've desperately tried to manage believing in them, but I'm done now. I'm gonna sell my Wii U when the NX comes out, and I'm going to save up for a good PC instead. Gonna keep the 3DS though, their handheld games are the only thing worth buying anymore, and even those are lacking quality.
>>339549830
My heart sank when they showed SMTxFE
>>339549830
>>339549887
This is where it went downhill for me.
>>339551205
This is what killed it entirely.
>>339550447
But Iwata was cardinally responsible for ruining the company and making it some casual garbage. Things like waggle, amiibo, mobile, DLC all his doing.
>>339551205
This made me rage so fucking hard.
E3 2015 and Smash 4 being lame aside from characters.
>>339553769
But since he died they've turned that shit up to 11.
They've been in the shitter since SMG2, arguably. You could make a case for 2008 if you really want. The Gamecube was the last time the games had true heart for most series.
>>339553536
Nontendo markets their games for a noneexistant audience. Kiddies play on iPads.
>>339549830
Not as big of a fan after E3 2015, but that really doesn't matter.
If they can't create the games I want, I'll just make them myself.
>>339549830
Me too
Federation Force
Color Splash
SMT x FE
Zelda U being delayed to 2017 cause of the NX version
It's like they want me to hate them
>>339549830
You can say I was never a fan
But I'm not a fan of anyone these days. I just like games and go where the games go. IF you don't have games, then I will not follow, it doesn't matter who you are.
>>339549830
Love Nintendo though. I just hate NoA.
>>339553857
I dunno. Amiibo announcements actually lessened after his death. And the mobile titles like AC/FE were in development for years. We'll have to see what the new guy will do with the company after exhausting Iwata's plans for "expansion" into entertainment.
genesis DOES
>16 bits per second
you can't do this on nintendo!
>>339551205
I just want to know what the thought process was for making this.
>Oh no, it looks like people didn't like Sticker Star. What should we do?
>Let's just make it again. I'm sure they'll like it this time.
>34
>28
Op pls
Genesis
So /v/ what exactly is Nintendo's long term goals? They can't keep trying to win over kids because kids are too interested in smartphones and adults have grown up to the point of only liking cod Madden and fifa so who exactly is their demographic?
>does
>>339554584
Get into mobile
>>339554584
Nostalgic manchildren.
>>339554489
Sticker Star is the highest selling Paper Mario game.
Nintendo doesn't care about reviews or fan feedback, because neither of those things come from their target demographic of children. So they assume sales are the only thing that count.
Genesis!
>>339551205
I want to meet the guy who thought this was a good idea. I want to meet him in a dark alleyway.
>>339551205
IS is so delusional it hurts.
2007, waiting for Brawl while the only Wii game worth playing (TP) I'd already played on Gamecubethen Brawl came out and it wasn't even that great
>Does!
>>339554489
I think they were just on a downward trend for so long, E3 2015 was the moment where they just had to show us something was coming, and it was just nothing. There's been nothing all year, they've showed us nothing good, Star Fox was mediocre, they've handled their franchises badly, their localizations badly, we've hardly seen anything good out of Zelda for years, Mario has just been kind of average.
They've just been dumping ass all over the place, with no bright light on the horizon. Even when the NX comes out, why should I care? What's gonna be on it, disappointing games? More remakes? Another poorly handled sequel/localization? Amiibos?
Man, I used to be the biggest fucking Nintendo fan. The new Zelda is going to be a 7/10 and everyone is just going to wonder why they even cared in the first place. They're going to wonder why they even paid attention. There's gonna be another mediocre 3D Mario we'll all forget about. Metroid will crawl back into it's slimy tomb after the inevitable failure of Federation and we won't see it for years, if ever. Star Fox is going to collect dust now because they didn't understand why 64 was good AGAIN.
Fuck, whatever.
After GC/DS era.
Bought the Wii and lost interest in it before all the decent gems came out.
3DS was shit and my N3DS is just an emulation machine when I poop.
>>339554489
I can see it now...
>Miyamoto: DEY DONT REIKU STIKKA STA? DEY ARE WONGU. I WUZ REITU ABOUT WINDU WAIKKA, SO AI NO BETTA.
>Tanabe: Dey stir dunt rike it...
>Miyamoto: MAEK ANOZERU.
>Tanabe: Bitchin'.
Near the end of the Wii
>>339554713
But it only sold well because it was advertised as an RPG like the old games, so they tricked the less savvy. They can't trick them again. Everybody knows and they're loud. They must be purposefully be plugging their ears to the complaints.
E3 2015 was fine for me.
All of the subsequent shitty directs made me switch to PC and never look back though.
>tfw I'll probably be able to play emulated Zelda U when it comes out
>>339554713
Except that it wasn't. It was only highest-selling in Japan, but Nintendo clearly only gives a shit about that.
>>339554843
GENESIS
>>339554901
Holy crap calm down. They have more franchises besides Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.
What about Kirby and Pokemon coming out later this year? And nobody knows anything about NX, so all this pre-emptive judging is kind of baseless. Unless you want to have lowered expectations for it, so they an be surpassed.
genesis does!
>>339549830
When I was 7
>>339555147
>>339549830
After the mediocrity. One after the other.
Brawl, Galaxies (they're slower than sunshine and 64, go fuck yourself), Skyward Sword, Other M, SPM, PM Sticker Star
The fucking virtual console, with its input lag and its individual purchases from WiiU and 3DS, and the slow ass releases
The terrible TERRIBLE UI and always limited features
>you can have a stage builder but it sucks
>you can have a mario maker but
>-we changed the physics so it isn't really the classic games
>-we put in limitations just 'cuz, but here your can spam 1000 enemies on screen :^)
>you can render smash videos
>-720p30
>-straight to youtube
>-jpeggy
>we'll make a console with a touchscreen pad
>no, it doesn't work with the Sm4sh menu, are you nuts?
>no, you can't use it in NSMB multiplayer as a character, are you nuts?
>no, you can't use it in Wii mode, it can't emulate a classic controller or GCN controller, are you nuts?
>WWHD and Twilight HD for $50 apiece
>add almost nothing, remove tingle tuner from WWHD, can't be fucked to make it work with THE FUCKING GAMEPAD WHICH IS PERFECT FOR IT
>can't be fucked to add in dungeons or make new ones, or add the nayru pearl dungeon missing in WWHD(here come the fags saying they "already used that dungeon" or that "if they make any new dungeons they should put them into the new zelda instead" as if dungeons are fucking diamonds you mine out of the earth), or revamp ganon's island the second time like it was supposed to
>can't be fucked to make either of the games run at 60fps
>can't be fucked to make better models
>can't be fucked to release them both together at $40 which would be fucking reasonable
>have to leave the games exactly as is because they think they're a higher race of perfection or something, fucking asian fucks should've died in the bombings
>>339555081
>Pokemon
No
>Kirby
The only good thing coming from them this year.
When I bought Chibi Robo and Triforce Heroes
>>339555081
>What about Kirby and Pokemon coming out later this year?
Kirby hasn't been good since the GBA games.
Actually Pokemon as well.
> Unless you want to have lowered expectations for it, so they an be surpassed.
You're either hopelessly Stockholm'd, or a shill.
After bayonetta's announcement
>>339549830
when they completely failed to deliver anything interesting on the Gamecube plus they fucked up Twilight Princess that gen
>>339549830
I'm still a fan. I enjoyed Star Fox Zero, Planet Roboto and Paper Jam.
I'm not going to pretend E3 last year wasn't a joke, this years E3 isn't depressing and this year isn't barren, but every company has its ups and downs. 2014 was GOAT, why does /v/ always have such short term memory?
>>339551205
I still don't get why Color Splash infuriates people so.
Paper Jam was the Mario RPG this time around. And we'll never see two Mario RPGs in the same development cycle.
Color Splash dull as fuck or not, is probably just something they're doing to keep the Paper Mario brand alive, since Sticker Star actually sold decently. For all we know Mario&Luigi will take the backseat for the development of the next Mario RPG. And as such Paper Mario could very well be the next one, especially after Paper Jam.
Yet people act like Paper Mario is ruined forever or something.
>>339555268
>>339555278
Not him, but I can never not be hyped for Pokemon. The updates to the metagame are what I look forward to.
Still a fan, still satisfied with my WiiU and 3ds
>>339555278
And you are a idoit that haven't played the new Kirby
And to top it off, a genwunner too
I'm still a fan though not particularly thrilled with their decisions as of late. The NX better blow my mind or I'm out.
>>339555278
How haven't they been good since the GBA games?
And I don't give up on companies because of missteps. I don't intend to buy Color Splash or Federation Force, that doesn't mean I suddenly have to hate the whole company.
Why hate the NX, when nothing about NX is confirmed?
>>339555265
>menus take a million years
>action grinds to a halt if you want to post to miiverse
Their games used to be worth it but not any more.
I'll get the NX if they release something like meleeHD, but of course they'll find a way to fuck it up, because it's always 1 step forward 2 steps back with these people.
Anything they implement that came from looking at others doing it first
>releasing gameplay vids
>socializing
>internet browser
>music player
>GUI menus
is awful, awful, awful with these people.
But the games themselves always have that polish, and sm4sh is a technical achievement, can't argue that.
>>339555278
>Kirby hasn't been good since the GBA games.
Lel. Half the GBA games weren't even as good as Canvas Curse
>Iwata's passing
>shit sequels, im not listing all of them
>sequels for not-too-mainstream series will never be made, only referenced to
>NoA's localization prepetually worsening
>Lol we wont do smartphone/freemium shit... oh wait
>HEEY GUYS ITS ANOTHER HD PORT
>LOL AMIIBOS
>The big kick in the balls that is federation force
I honestly liked Splatoon and hoped that Nintendo would start focusing on fresh IPs or anything thats not MARIO SETS THE VCR
I still cling to my 3DS since good games continue to come out for it and hope that the library will be half as good as the DS'
Looking forward to SMT4A and possibly kirby, despite the amiibo bullshit
>>339555336
>>>339551205
>I still don't get why Color Splash infuriates people so
Because SS was garbage.
>And we'll never see two Mario RPGs in the same development cycle
Except for TTYD and M&L
>Color Splash dull as fuck or not, is probably just something they're doing to keep the Paper Mario brand alive
I'd rather them just kill the series instead of jerking us around.
>>339555265
>most of this post is bitching about 6th gen Zelda remasters
wew
>>339555336
>is probably just something they're doing to keep the Paper Mario brand alive
Yeah, in the same way Fox is keeping The Simpsons alive.
>>339555404
>a genwunner too
>Gen 3 is gen 1
???
New kirby looked boring as shit, and didn't give me the same hype NMIDL did.
But I'll pirate it I guess.
>>339555451
Pokemon went to shit at gen4
Canvas curse was shit.
I don't hate the NX, I just don't have any hope for it after the wii and wiiu
>>339555517
>CC
>good
Just end this suffering
>>339555307
I'd like to point out that I'm still a fan, but THIS. Why bother asking us WHY we want characters in a ballot if all you did was tally?
>>339555336
it infuriates people because it is using a gameplay element that very few people actually liked. It was terribly designed and the fact that the beta E3 ootages showed off awesome Paper Mario TTYD style gameplay only for the release version to be nothing like that is a big lie to the consumer.
>>339555571
Because there was so much to bitch about, I got hung up.
>the price
>the lack of extra content
>the lack of sprucing it up
>BLOOM
When it became obvious to me I was a completely abandoned part of their fanbase and they were never coming back for their core players. I forgave the Wii generation, despite it being a complete spit in my face because i could ignore it and work on backlog..but Wiiu? nah. Fuck them, their gimmicks, their amiibos, and their DLC. after 26 years playin their shit im done.
>>339555250
>Nintendo BTFO!
t. /v/ circa 1990
>>339549830
>>339555639
Cry me a river, you retards. Just how fucking entitled are you?
>>339555634
>Gen 3
>better than 5
Shit taste
>new Kirby
>boring
More shit tatse
Leave. You will not be missed
>>339555634
>Canvas curse was shit.
Okay but ever Kirby game after Canvas Curse with the exception of Rainbow Curse, don't play like it. Super Star Ultra, Return to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe, and soon Planet Robobot.
>>339555634
>I don't hate the NX, I just don't have any hope for it after the wii and wiiu
You don't think they won't improve and learn from their mistakes?
>>339555749
>they said the Wii U would focus more on hardcore players
>it's the same casual shit
>>339555634
>>CC
>>good
Yes, that's the point. Don't actually rate Kirby games based on Canvas Curse' quality.
>>339555081
Which franchises? Those are the big ones. Kirby has always been just alright. Pokemon is what it is. I'm sure it'll be fine, but it's just another Pokemon game.
The NX could be a fucking bicycle for all it matters. It could be a fucking cat with a controller strapped to it. Doesn't matter if the games on it aren't good. The Nintendo franchises are what really matter, and they just don't know how to make a good video game anymore. All they care about is selling plastic statues to children.
>>339555832
Kirby has always been boring tbqh.
>>339549830
I didn't.
Enjoy your bandwagon hate thread though!
>>339555543
>I'd rather them just kill the series instead of jerking us around.
This. If they pulled the plug after TTYD, I'd probably accept the series for what it is and acknowledge that it had a good run.
>>339555730
If you actually played WWHD you would know that those shitposting bloom images were edits and in-game, the bloom is much less impactful
>>339555967
>>339555883
Except it fucking isn't? We've gotten nothing but hardcore aimed games in the past 2 years. Other than maybe a couple of garbage titles like Mario Party and that Animal crossing garbage.
>>339555936
>don't know how to make good games
That is strange
Did you only happen to live for the last two years?
>/v/ is finally realizing that Nintendo has always been shit
It is the dawn of a glorious new era.
>>339555883
Pretty much what I mean entirely. Nintendo got greedy because of the Wii's success.
>>339556078
>Dick Freeze
>Xenoblade
>W101
>Bayonetta
What else?
>>339555832
>Muh bw2
kill yourself
>>339555851
I really hope they do, it's been too fucking consoles and I just want my Gamecube 2.
The least amount of gimmicks, closest thing to a normal controller, and great games.
>>339556034
how bitter does one have to be to have an image like this saved on their hard drive
>>339555967
>>339555936
That's kind of harsh. As much as I prefer Galaxy 2 and 64 over it, that doesn't mean 3D World is a bad game. They still make a lot of competently well made games like Mario Kart 8, even if they have some misses. I mean people seem to neglect that even the previous generations from them had their misses. Was Splatoon not a fun new series?
>>339549830
The NX better be fucking amazing. They've been irrelevant since splatoon died down. The only Nintendo game they've managed to drum up any amount of hype for is monster hunter gen, when a title that niche is your highlight of the year, you know you're in trouble
>>339549830
>>339549887
Ditto. The Star Fox reveal made me grin, and then they took that opportunity to piss in my mouth for the next hour.
>>339554901
Metroid can't crawl.
When I played Melee and unlocked Marth and Roy, finding out Nintendo had kept an entire game series exclusive to Japan.
>>339556194
Kill myself?
Edgey
Anyway how is bw2 worse than Ruby?
Can anyone give me a good reason why they don't go third party?
Look, I fucking love Nintendo, but their insistence on making shit hardware that drives third parties away and their refusal to make a real online account-based system is asinine and they full well fucking know it.
Even when they make their own hardware, it's centered around some idea that NO THIRD PARTY USES. There were zero third party games that used the GC's digital click shoulder buttons, barely any legit uses of the Wii remote, and now, no one gives a fuck about the Gamepad. Even Nintendo themselves seem to have maybe 2-3 good uses for their gimmicks AT BEST, and they get shit out on a launch title (Wii Sports) and/or a final title (Zelda U).
Why not go third party, and if they want a fucking gimmick controller, just bundle it with a game? Then if third parties think it's a nice idea, they'll support it. They don't fucking support Nintendo now, so seriously WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO LOSE?
They could be software only, cut all their R&D losses, and because a juggernaut of a dev/pub house, and EVERYONE WOULD BENEFIT.
I don't fucking get it. They could move all their hardware division to shit like Amiibo and QoL and whatnot, and let their teams pump out games on whatever platform they want, and rake in billions.
I just don't get it. Why do they insist on hardware? It's not their core strength anymore and it hasn't been for nearly two decades.
I still think they (can) make great software, but fuck man. They are so backwards in so many ways it's shocking they are doing as "well" as they are right now.
>>339556194
Gen V overall is the best generation. Deal with it.
>>339556206
>how bitter does one have to be to have an image like this saved on their iphone
FTFY
>>339556186
W101 and dong freeze were 3 years ago
>>339549830
>being a fan of a faceless multibillion company
Never was in the first place, so there you go
>>339556236
>4 year old console
>still $300
PRICE DROP WHEN
>>339556389
>3 years
>a long time
Lmao
>>339549830
I'm only still a "fan" because the other consoles/pc don't have the games I'm interested in.
>>339555336
Imagine you're at the grocery store.
You're walking along, getting milk and eggs for the family and what have you, and you come across some grape juice. "I'll give it a go," you say, and you get it and go back home, put it in the fridge with the rest of the groceries, kiss your wife/mom good night and go to bed.
Next morning, you wake up for breakfast, fix yourself some eggs and toast, and think, "Hey, I'll try some of that grape juice."
You try it, and hey, it's pretty damn good. In fact it's your new favorite drink.
So after you finish the bottle in about a week or so, you go back to the store to get more. And you find out they have "sparkling" grape juice. You say "What the hell, I'm still young enough to try new things." You get it, go back home, and hey, it's even better.
Fast forward another week, you go back to the store to get some more grape juice. But what's this? Upon closer inspection, the grape juice is actually ORANGE juice. You walk over to customer service in a bit of a huff (it's your favorite drink, after all) asking them what the deal is.
And then.
The fucking faggot BEHIND YOU IN LINE decides to pipe up (since the manager can't be fucked to give you the time of day apparently) and says "Hey, what's the big deal? Orange juice is good too! Don't judge it based on what grape juice used to taste like! You just hate new things!
.
You are that faggot.
>>339556186
Motherfucking Splatoon, Smash For, Pokken, the new Tokyo Mirage FE,and Yoshi's Wooly World.
>>339549830
I was waiting for the Wii U to get games before I bought it
still waiting
>>339556464
It used to be $350.
>>339555975
> If they pulled the plug after TTYD
This is how I treated the series anyway. Nothing past TTYD is interesting to me. The M&L series has filled the void, somewhat.
>>339556445
>I can't bring myself to enjoy anything in life
I'm not defending Nintendo, but vidya in general. How are you so jaded that you can't even let yourself be a fan of games you're meant to have fun with?
>>339556308
Well Emerald since it's GOAT 3G.
>non memorable pokemon
>starters are shit
>post game can't even come close to Emerald
Emerald is just the better game really.
>>339556358
>took two tries to finally get decent
>best gen
wew
>>339549830
My nintendo love started declining when they announced the Wii U, but then I got one for christmas and it actually went back up cause it was a surprisingly fun system.
Then E3 happened and I bought a ps4
>>339556649
Gen III couldn't get it right after three tries. Gen V got it right with BW.
>>339556520
You should replace the orange juice with bottled vomit to have a better comparison.
>>339556259
I didn't get Splatoon or Mario Kart 8, just wasn't interested enough to spend 70 bucks. I lost interest in Mario Kart with the Wii one and this looked like the same thing. I already had the sonic kart game anyways. Splatoon, I dunno. I'd get tired of that fast. Super casual team TPS just doesn't seem like something I'd get 70 bucks worth out of.
3D world was really mediocre. Not bad at all sure, but I just didn't care enough to play through it. Actually, I forgot I even had it.
>>339556649
>no memorable
Hydreigon, volcanora, excadrill and all the legends would like to talk to you
>no post game
Seriously? Bw2 has the most post game of all of the games
Give up if you don't know what you are shitposting about
>>339556647
>fan of games and fan of a company is the same thing
Lmao, you fucking retard.
>>339556762
But that wouldn't get the point across.
Color splash isn't vomit, it just isn't grape juice.
I mean Paper Mario
>>339556194
>I just want my Gamecube 2.
>not SNES 2
kill yourself
>>339556492
The post said within the past two years, retard.
>>339555883
No, it's much worse.
Even the fucking Wii had Metroid, an exclusive Zelda and proper AC and FE games and 3D Mario.
>>339556781
>I didn't get Splatoon
You're missing out big time, Anon. Believe me. I don't like online games at all, but this is the exception.
>>339556584
Do you own any console this generation?
>>339555883
They paid for games like Bayonetta 2 and W101 to be made though.
>>339556904
But using orange juice makes it seem like something that just as many if not more people would like, while Sticker Star was widely panned.
>>339556927
How does all those you listed above affect whether it's casual or not?
>>339550257
Mario Golf World Tour
>>339557014
So? That means they were planning them for the Wii U. Do they not count towards its library for some arbitrary reason?
>>339556751
>R/S improved upon GSC greatly minus removing day/night
>an even better pool of very memorable pokemon
>Emerald took it another step forward with still the best Z game of the series
>got it right with BW
Absolutely not
>>339556847
Hydreigon is good
Aggron > Excadrill
And I said post-game is worse than Emerald, not that it didn't have any.
>>339556910
Or that, but we both know is even more unlikely.
>>339557030
>wildly panned
The critics seem to disagree with you
>>339549830
>2011
>We are making a new smash for wii u
FUUCK YES
>and 3DS
That was the beggining of the end for me.
But I lost it completelety after Star Fox was shit and Zelda delay, the third time
>>339549830
E3 2015 disillusioned me.
But the E3 2016 news finally broke my trust in them.
>Hey guys we know how disappointed you were about last year
>with the whole "no good new games" and "no surprises" and "shit direct"
>so this year
>we're having no new games, and no direct! Surprise!
>oh and no NX either
Goddamn niggers.
>>339556983
PS4
>>339555768
such a nice time when we had this
i wish sony and micro$oft had balls like sega had back in the day
but i bet they'd just be a bunch of bitches and sue eachother instead of stepping it up
>>339557165
BW has challenge mode
Which makes it automatically more than any game previously
>>339549830
When the smash hype/SMTxFE/Iwata died.
>>339556552
> You are a kid, brawl 2.0, Baby's first fighting game, platformer with focus on being comfy
> hardcore
None of these games require any skills or have an skill ceilling
>>339557151
No. I said that to show they did make efforts to appeal to the more core market.
>>339557260
Why do you own a nogames console?
>>339556983
No. I have a 3DS but I kind of regret it. I was thinking of PS4 but all its games keep getting ported to PC
>>339557227
>>and 3DS
>That was the beggining of the end for me.
Handheld Smash was demanded.
>>339549830
like middle school
I liked SSB a lot when I was < 10
>>339557312
Except they all do, you idiot. Go play them.
>>339555713
I've never denied that the game will likely be bad to terrible.
>>339556520
They're still selling Mario RPGs though. That's the thing. We've been getting Mario RPGs ever since Super Mario RPG. And they aren't stopping now.
So for your analogy, the store never stopped selling grape juice.
>>339557240
This.
And the worst fucking part right now is that they seem surprised people are disappointed.
Say what you want about Iwata, but at least he fucking came out and apologized after bad E3 showings. Reggie and Bill and Miyamoto would NEVER do that shit - they even try to insist that things like Federation Force are still worth getting excited for.
Look Nintendo, I get it - everyone has bitched at you for not having coop FPS type games with online multiplayer. But Playskool Metroid isn't the fucking way to go about it, and it's already 6 years too late.
It's like they are on a five year latency in terms of responding to what people actually fucking want.
>>339557372
>>339557387 and >>339556584 are both me, >>339557260 is someone else
>>339557165
The region, the story, and the monsters were better in BW. It was also refreshing to have all new monsters. You couldn't rely on your safe nostalgia team you used for four generations. For the first time since RBY, you felt like you were on a real adventure with new discoveries in every route. Not to mention that Emerald's post-game can't touch B2W2's post game.
>inb4 "took two tries to get it right lol"
In that case, don't bring up Emerald.
Also, how the fuck are Excadrill and Aggron comparable? Even if they were, Excadrill is better design-wise, and fucking leagues better stats-wise.
>>339557452
And yet it was just to tide people over for Usmash.
When I realized the only Nintendo games I play anymore are from TPC.
>>339557260
>supporting paid online
Just stick to PC damn it. Don't kill the industry with that poison.
>>339557240
>>339557537
>take a step back in order to focus on the new system so it has an amazing launch lineup
>retards crying because they're fucking nearsighted entitled fucks
You make me sick.
>>339557529
You missed the point.
They're selling "Paper Mario" not Paper Mario.
>>339557529
The first two Paper Mario games STILL FUCKING EXIST too.
>>339557452
One of the people who wanted handheld Smash for fucking ever here. You know what no one wanted? For Sakurai to make up dumb arbitrary rules like the handheld and console versions have to have the same roster, forcing Ice Climbers out of the game. For the handheld and console version to be made at the same time, ensuring neither one is made to its full potential.
>>339557489
No they dont.
E.g. splatoon is one of the most shallow shooters i have ever played.
Dont get me wrong, it was fun for 2 weeks or so until it landed on my shelve because it became boring.
Maybe you should actually start to broaden your horizon and play games other than nintendo games.
>>339557907
>shallow
Elaborate
>>339557762
The part that ruins it for me is the lack of story and the fact that everyone knows they're paper now and they just go "WE SURE ARE PAPER HUH" for every line.
The story and charm was SPM's saving grace and had me actually enjoy the game. I could probably stomach SS if it had those, but nope.
>>339557762
>>339557790
This is why food analogies don't work. You can enjoy the same flavor of grape juice infinitely, but you can only enjoy a videogame for a limited amount of time.
>>339557760
Dood come on.
Does Nintendo SERIOUSLY think Sony/MS give a SHIT about what they do? Of fucking course they don't. Sony is running away with this generation and MS has their money bins full from fucktards buying season passes, DLC, and paying for XBL.
They could show off AT LEAST something at E3 besides fucking Zelda. AT LEAST reveal a small bit about NX, or a title for it, or SOMETHING.
Because not even Nintendo's own fanbase is giving a shit about what they are doing right now.
Just give us something to be excited about it.
>>339557790
>>339557529
>rather than understand the rather obvious point he's trying to make, I will critique his metaphor
Why do I come to v?
>>339557657
A lot of people and play and only own the 3DS version as well though.
>>339557825
>like the handheld and console versions have to have the same roster,
If they didn't have the same roster, you know people would whine over the other version having characters that their version did not have.
>For the handheld and console version to be made at the same time, ensuring neither one is made to its full potential.
They were both made to save the financial sales of the 3DS and Wii U, and for their connectivity features. It could have been handled better admittedly.
>>339557907
>splatoon
>shallow
>>339557964
What charm? SPM's "charm" is the fact it has it's head up it's own ass so far it sees teeth?
>>339557964
And why are you assuming Colour splash doesn't have a good story?
>>339557529
You're forgetting that Paper Mario fans are super elitists and don't even give the other Mario RPGs any recognition whatsoever.
>>339557995
They might show a little teaser at the end
And having a strong reveal is not bad in any way
>>339557995
They will do that, don't worry. But not now. Once they're ready. There's no point in competing with Sony and Microsoft when they have nothing ready for the rest of the year.
>>339558046
Better than Shitter Star.
>>339558052
>all the NPCs are Toads
>everyone knows they're made of paper
Already on the same track as SS.
>>339558052
It was revealed a while ago that Sticker Star dropped the story because a poll determined 1% of the people who played TTYD cared about the story. So Miyamoto told the devs to stop creating a narrative and only focus on gameplay.
It's assumed that Color Splash is going to go the same way, based on things like a lack of uniquely-designed Toads.
>>339551205
hasn't Color Splash been basically scrubbed from the internet minus the trailers and the hate articles? wonder what they're doing with it
I was a complete nintendrone through the NDS's lifespan and quit on them when they released the DSi/Wii and those two fucking terribad zelda games that were so easy and repetitive that I realized they were targeting too young/casual an audience to appeal to me anymore. I later tried playing Super Mario Galaxy on a friends Wii after doing a run through of SM64 and it finalized my decision. Then again with MK8.
>>339549830
Everything to do with the NX.
>>339558237
They even took down the trailers on their official pages.
>>339558012
>If they didn't have the same roster, you know people would whine
People are whining anyway since Ice Climbers were cut and Olimar only has one Pikmin and I'm sure some fans of Squirtle and Ivysaur are upset too.
Also Zelda was nerfed hard since they got rid of her best move.
> They were both made to save the financial sales of the 3DS and Wii U
Maybe they should release better platforms that don't require rushed, half-assed Smash Bros games to save them.
>>339556236
Oh wow, an image from the first christmas the Wii U was on sale. I haven't seen this one in a while.
>>339558208
>>339558290
So...nothing?
>>339558271
Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass are the games to be perfectly clear. TP was alright but I've only played the GCN version.
Why is it that people allow for Mario to have games of basically every genre. But Paper Mario in particular is just is not allowed to be anything different?
>>339558290
Like what? We know fuck all about it.
>>339558363
Smash Bros did nothing to the 3DS other than allowing for more options
Why are you complaining about that?
>>339558271
You were gold until you had to shit on Mario Galaxy
>>339558456
Paper Mario was the RPG Mario. It's not its own thing. The fuck are you smoking?
I didn't. But I mean that in the same way that I never stopped being a Sonic fan.
I want to see them do well, but all of their recent steps have left me pessimistic as fuck.
>>339558484
Exactly, why don't we?
>>339558363
>Maybe they should release better platforms that don't require rushed, half-assed Smash Bros games to save them.
Melee was a rushed game as well, to make the Gamecube Launch.
>>339558363
>People are whining anyway since Ice Climbers were cut and Olimar only has one Pikmin and I'm sure some fans of Squirtle and Ivysaur are upset too.
Ice Climbers along with others and Olimar's increased count can return in future games with stronger hardware to work with.
When the Wii U came out.
>>339558356
i can't even find the actual official page anymore so hopefully they're reworking it into a game with actual stuff in it
>>339549830
Do you honestly believe this daily thread has any effect?
Gaffers are so pathetic.
>>339558456
It's not about changing the game, it's about subverting the genre. RPGs are about story, the first RPGs made weren't about the story, and they sucked ass. If you mean Super Paper Mario, yeah that game got more hate than it deserved but it still had a plentiful enough fanbase.
>>339555534
>hoped that Nintendo would start focusing on fresh IPs
Nintendo actually does an extraordinary number of new IPs each year, it's just that the vast majority of them don't sell that well at all and thus don't aren't made into franchises.
>>339558174
But that's kind of the thing, isn't it?
Nintendo is sort of like a really conservative poker player. They ONLY go in on hands they are sure they can win. They never bluff. So when they start betting, you know they have a bunch of shit ready to fly.
But that means when they don't have anything, they clam up.
How many times have we heard "There are unannounced games" and it turned out to be true? And even when it WAS true, were the games worth getting excited about? It always ends up being either weird little one-off titles, or a sequel to something no one asked for, or a C+/B- tier game.
The fact that they are remaining quiet right now is a clear indication that they have fuck-all ready, and fuck-all to show. I'm not holding my breath anymore on this shit, and that's the fucking problem. They could have used Wii money to purchase dev houses, secure franchises, start partnerships, ANYTHING. BUt they didn't do any of that. And now we're seeing them scramble.
I will be SHOCKED if the NX launches with more than, say, 3-4 quality first party games that release in the first few months. If it has the same drought every post-SNES system has had, it's dead on arrival. Third parties are already shying away from it.
I'll give you that they don't need to compete with Sony and MS. But they have got to get their shit together, because right now, it's clear that they don't.
>>339558208
Meat Fister Sister
>>339558559
Not him but Mario & Luigi also exists as a Mario RPG series. I don't like Sticker Star and I don't have faith in Color Splash currently, but Paper Mario is not the only Mario RPG series that is still going.
>>339558206
That doesn't answer my question. What charm?
The game gets off on it's own farts, how is that charm?
>>339551205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-cdNgezswM&feature=youtu.be
So, /v/, how would you imagine a "Paper Zelda" game to be? What would you want from it? Would you even want something like that? Would you want it to just follow regular Zelda mechanics?
>>339558616
>into a game with actual stuff in it
Confirmed to be a retarded parroter that doesn't even know what we're complaining about.
Just like all nintendoom bandwagoners falling for the neogaf narrative.
Their E3 2015 conference made me buy a PS4. I have better odds of getting a new Ape Escape or Medievil than Nintendo giving us a new proper Metroid.
>>339557960
E.g. ironically 0 tactic or strategy. The ink system is actually hindering it more than helping it, as progression into enemy territory is slow as hell and any attempt to flank is immediately spotted. So it results into a trench war for most of the game.
This is also resulted into the meta in ranked games being more stale than LoL, with e.g. on the skyscraper map in tower control everybody being on their side of the map just blindly shooting at the other side with ranged weapons until one team manages to get the upper hand, which will then straight result into victory.
>>339558531
And MK8
>>339558502
I don't know what you mean but I'm going to reply to what I think you might mean. There's no event matches or Adventure mode, Smash Run is shit, Break the Targets is almost completely gone, and I think even Classic Mode is shorter now. They even got rid of that trophy shooting game from Brawl which was kinda ok and replaced it with an even shittier trophy grabbing minigame
Oh and I'm pretty sure you can't even shoot the credits in Smash 3DS. Literally shit tier.
>>339558783
(You)
try more buzzwords next time
>>339558589
>Ice Climbers along with others and Olimar's increased count can return in future games
Or they could have just been on the Wii U
>>339558665
What do you think they've been doing all this year? They just gave up on the e3, on this holiday season and on this whole year, so they can focus on showing their big guns when everything is ready in order to make a strong comeback.
>>339558794
Are you sure we're playing the same game?
>>339558791
>I forgoed a nogaems console for another nogaems console with paid online
>>339558857
Classic mode is shorter, but it also went on for WAY TOO FUCKING LONG in Brawl.
>>339558559
We have Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, and Mario & Luigi. And they're all Mario RPGs.
>>339558456
What is it with people who confuse "worse" for "different"?
It's a fucking epidemic of stupidity I see everywhere.
>>339558695
Can you be more specific as to what you don't like? It's hard to argue against such a nebulous complaint.
I liked the personalities of the villains like O'Chunks, Mimi, Dementio, and Count Bleck. I also liked the imminent destruction theme and that the game actually shows you what will happen if you fail. The story is the best out of all the games to boot.
>>339558531
I'm not saying it's a bad game, I just had higher expectations of it based on what I'd heard. I think I would have been less critical if I hadn't just finished a SM64 run too.
Nonetheless it seems I identified the downward trend at about the right time. They could totally pull me back in with a Double Dash sequel though.
>>339558745
Paper Zelda. Hmm.
Use the art style from the NES game. Dig out the old manuals and make everything look EXACTLY like that. Like that shit literally came to life and started ballin up and down yo house.
I don't know about gameplay mechanics because everyone is divided on that. But I'd want something like Zelda 1 but with a more frenzied style with a simple combo system.
Make it open world, put in a ton of secrets - the kind of shit people could spend years finding, like burning every bush level of shit - as if the world was real and had existed long before Link showed up, and would be around long after he was gone. Maybe you could do things that you could come back to later and see the result of.
Look I don't know. Just bring back NES Zelda art. Failing that, find the Zelda comic that one guy did that sort of has a westenized look, but it's still clear it's a Japanese artist? I don't know his name. But Link looks like a fucking man in it.
>>339555768
The funny thing about that is that the Genesis was less powerful than the Super Nintendo in almost every regard. Sega just invented the term blast processing so their loyal drones would think they actually had an actual arguement against the Nintendo owners back in the days when kids didn't know jack shit about processing power and hardware quality and all that jazz. Gotta hand it to Sega, though, they did market the Genesis really well, they had the balls to shit on their opponents with pride, and hey, it worked. The Genesis ads were second only to Segata Sanshiro in my opinion.
>>339558857
I mean it gives more options to the 3DS owners in terms of games
>>339558971
>Bloodborne
>Yakuza 0 and 6
>Dragon Quest Builders
>Gravity Rush RE and 2
>Street Fighter V
You know what those games have? Variety. Fucking Nintendo wasted it's developers time making kiddie 2D platformer shovelware no one asked for instead of what the fans truly wanted.
>>339559159
>Dragon Quest Builders
>complains about kiddie stuff
>>339549830
Never?
Why would I stop liking video games?
>>339549830
That was my first straw.
Now there's so many straws I can't grasp only one.
>>339559159
>Fucking Nintendo wasted it's developers time making kiddie 2D platformer shovelware no one asked for instead of what the fans truly wanted.
Not him but the Wii U doesn't only have 2D Platformers made and funded by them. Xenoblade being an example.
I don't understand how they plan to get through an entire year with virtually no games. I mean, they obviously moved most projects to NX a long time ago, but then why did they have to delay the launch until 2017? Where the hell are all the games? Do they even make games anymore? Any why this huge secrecy? You just know NX is going to be something catastrophic and they're shitting the bed because it will either make or break their hardware business, if it's not already some kind of multiplat android device
The 3DS is my main system this gen.
Literally every single third party worth a damn is on it.
>>339559340
>Why would I stop liking video games?
>>339559159
>2D kiddy platformers
>what is Bayonetta 2
>what is W101
>what is Splatoon
>what is Smash 4
>Gravity Rush
On the vita
>street fighter V
More barebones than any previous installment
>>339558971
Looking forward to #Censored, Sticker Star 2 and Zelda (Also on the NX) Nintenfaggot?
>>339558940
That's fine, but they can't fucking act like A) we should be happy with that situation, and B) that we should be happy with what is going on to tide us over until then.
Zelda was originally 2015. It'll be 2017. That's a huge difference in time - why did they even think they could release it in 2015, and what kind of game would it have been? I'm actually kind of interested to know how much it has actually evolved.
But the point remains that you don't float a year on 2-3 games and get surprised when everyone finds that disappointing.
>>339559387
Because the NX games are probably not in a presentable state yet. They don't want to make a bad first impression with them.
>>339559159
This is OP dropping his mask and revealing his sonybrony, buzzword spouter greasy face.
You gotta wonder why these neogaf threads are left alone all the time.
>>339549830
The WiiU really put me off, but having nothing for this e3 fucking finished them.
After Brawl came out. There was a drought of Nintendo games, with only Wii Fit to tide me over. I moved onto PC games in 2007, and made Steam account in 2009.
>>339559284
Read nigga read!
I said I like variety, maybe sometimes I want to play a chill kid friendly game like DQB or 3D World, but sometimes I wanna play something with a little more sophistication like Gravity Rush or Bloodborne. Nintendo rarely offers that on their consoles. Yes there's games like W101, Bayo 2 and X but 3 is simply not enough.
>>339558630
How is it subverting the genre?
Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star weren't advertised as RPGs. And Color Splash is advertised as an action adventure.
And Dream Team and Paper Jam are still straight out RPGs. They're still making the RPGs.
>>339549830
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED /V/?
THEY WERE DOING SO FUCKING WELL. THEN E3 2015 SHOWS UP AND STOPS EVERYTHING.
>>339559387
On the 3DS.
>>339559463
I have a Japanese Wii U and better exclusives than the braindead dudebro 4 will ever get.
Go back to your self-pity general.
>>339559387
They're launching Pokemon. That'll sell enough.
>why did they have to delay the launch until 2017?
So they don't rush it like how they rushed the Wii U.
>Where the hell are all the games?
In development.
>Do they even make games anymore?
Yes.
>Any why this huge secrecy?
It creates hype.
>You just know NX is going to be something catastrophic
NINTENDOOMED! It'll be fine.
>>339559541
>Yes there's games like W101, Bayo 2 and X but 3 is simply not enough.
Not him but Splatoon isn't a 2D platformer. Fatal Frame is a horror game. And as weird as it is, #FE is a JRPG.
>>339555335
>DMCAs
>Nostalgia pandering
>Sun and Moon DNA
>Zelda delays
>No info at E3
>Developers saying stupid shit
>Color Splash
And all of this happened AFTER E3 2015.
>>339559556
>they were doing well up until 2015
really now? I'd say more like 2009
