ITT: Games that challenge your intellect
What games truly made you think and expanded your views of problem solving?
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Now, many games are intellectually stimulating because they are complex, while some other games are intellectually stimulating, and not particularly complex (e.g. chess).
What are some games with minimalist mechanics, yet are still intellectually challenging?
Mini Metro comes to mind
Hey you're copying my thread
It's not bad, actually
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>>339545335
Any chance you're recommending Mini Metro because of the last intellectual games thread? Curious to know if it's because I recommended it, since I was the first one to mention it there.
>>339545581
I was in that thread, and I think we might have discussed it there. I had played it before.
>>339543703
That one you posted.
TIS-100 from the same guy is cool too.
>>339545519
Hi anon! I tried to thank you for TL;DRing the games in the last thread, but the thread got deleted right as I was about to reply.
HOW IS IT GOING, EVERY BODY? LET'S GET INTELLECTUAL.
>>339545335
How autistic do I need to be to enjoy Dominions 4? Thinking of picking it up during the sale.
I was enjoying spacechem but eventually I got stuck for like a month. I think I was about 2 "worlds" from the end. I refuse to look up solutions so I can't proceed. PIcked up the TIS game by the same dev on sale so I'll give that a go some time.
>>339545335
>recommends HoI3 and Vicky2
>but not MemeU3 and MemeK2
I had no idea /v/ had such patrician tastes in grand strategy
>>339546130
>implying there's anything wrong with CK2
HoI3 and Vicky 2 are just more complex. Probably could get rid of Vicky 2
>>339545725
Oh yes, I was doing the same, and completed a list for you, but it 404d before I could finish:
Spacechem
Duskers
Factorio
Minecraft (redstone - or better yet, mods)
Kerbel Space Program
Dwarf Fortress
The Talos Principle
TIS-100
The Last Remnant
Myst / Riven
Infinifactory
This picture >>339545335
Atlantis II
Neo Scavanger
ADOM
Sil
Victoria 2
Frozen Synapse
Stephen's Sausage Roll
ĐiệnWorlds
Core Wars
Anno 2070
The Witness
Dominions 4
Full Bore
Lyne
Space Station 13
Manufactoria
Mini Metro
Distant Worlds: Universe
English Country Tune
Rimworld
This list isn't exhaustive, it's just what I scraped from that last thread.
>>339546805
Aww yiss, thanks Anon. I've noted these all down.
has anyone else played this? fucking amazing.
http://www.thedreamcastjunkyard.co.uk/2008/04/lost-golem-is-lost-gem.html
The Lost Golem (Golem No Maigo) is a Dreamcast game that is a pretty awesome puzzle game involving moving a king through a maze of doors. Since the doors are on hinges things get complex pretty quickly.
roguelikes
>>339547367
Interesting. There are likely so many games on slightly unpopular systems that just got brushed over, and might be forgotten nowadays.
>>339546751
I like Vicky 2 on there. Overall, HoI3 is probably more complex, but it is all on the military end. Vicky 2 does everything else (e.g. diplomacy, economy) much better.
Balance of Power
I don't think there's another geopolitical sim like it
>>339548663
Not him but have you played Dom4? I'm kind of torn between Vicky 2 and Dom4.
>>339543703
stop making this thread over and over
>>339549809
Nope. Only Vicky 2. Dom4 is on my list.
Other than occasionally in threads like this, I almost never hear people talking about Dominions. I wonder why? It does seem popular and engaging.
>>339549914
Why don't you like it? You don't want to discuss video games?
>tfw you can't play Factorio in MP with a friend because dynamic IPs
>You can't make it work with Hamachi either
Why
When's a real dedicated server update?
>>339545335
>>339546805
>Duskers
Oh yes I saw it recommended and pirated it
Might buy it soon, for an indie is pretty cool and ambiental
>>339549921
It's a pretty niche game I guess. Maybe it's just a bit too complex and not engaging enough. I have yet to play any grand strategy game online myself, but I think Dom4 has always had just barely over 100 people playing at any given time.
>>339550568
>Dom4 has always had just barely over 100 people playing at any given time.
That's better than some of the games I try to get in.
>>339550558
Is there more to Duskers than meets the eye? I've heard it compared to roguelike games (which I enjoy), but watching it being played just makes it seem like it's something I'd have no interest in. To oversimplify things, it just seems like you jump from ship to ship and clear it to the best of your abilities to be able to jump to more ships and repeat. Similar to FTL I guess.
>>339550364
I've never tried co-op with Factorio. It must make the early game quite easy, right?
>>339550672
Yeah, true. I'd imagine that's a tough game to get going with multiple people anyways seeing as how long games could take. I just checked Vicky and it only has a few hundred more so it's not like there's a huge population difference there.
>>339550848
I've been playing with a friend and it definitely makes things easier. To offset that we turned the enemy settings as high as they can go. This was not a smart idea as there are so many god damn nests everywhere that eventually we'll be overwhelmed once they evolve enough. I'd say playing co-op definitely makes it more fun and is worth giving up some of the difficulty. Even if the game lacks replay value on its own, you can get a bit more from it with a friend and if you add some mods.
>>339551046
>Even if the game lacks replay value on its own, you can get a bit more from it with a friend and if you add some mods.
Yeah, this is true. I like the game so much, and have gotten so many hours out of it - but I cannot replay it right now (not at least until another update). It's just kind of tedious to get started again from nothing, as the early-game always goes in much the same way (but I can see why playing with friends makes this part more tolerable to repeat).
That Zachtronic game about being russian and designing circuits.
>>339553063
KOHCTPYKTOP?
>>339553385
Yes.
>>339553493
It's quite the arcane title.
>>339553063
Looking around Zachtronics' site, I just realized that he made Infiniminer. I knew of Infiniminer in the past, but I had no idea that was from him.
>trying to complete TIS-100 with absolutely no cs/programming experience
Seems irrelevant but I just struggle with it so much. Spacechem was much easier.
Is infinifactory worth grabbing? I enjoyed the other puzzle games by him.
>>339554438
Yeah, I couldn't really figure out how to use the language from the manual.
>>339554648
I can't tell if you're serious or mocking me.
>>339554738I'm serious
>>339554893
Well you're in a similar position as I am. I think the farthest I've gotten is the one where you have to take a string of numbers between two 0s and put the highest through A and the lowest through B
First game I played that made me break out a spreadsheet. Going to work on the Marathon mode soon.
>>339550364
what?
Why shouldn't it work with dynamic IPs?
and why shouldn't it work with Hamachi?
>>339545838
Not too autistic. Playing it is pretty easy, the AI is extremely dumb.
What you do is play a few single-player games just to understand the interface and gameplay basics, then go play online, either with /vg/'s dominions general or some other community.
Online play is where the game shines and lets you share your autism, with a whole bunch of very different viable strategies and counters to them.
This was in the other thread; gonna repost it here:
https://thetagames.itch.io/dienworlds
It's called ĐiệnWorlds - it's a power grid management game that involves cellular automata.
>>339543703
>What games truly made you think and expanded your views of problem solving?
Toki Tori 2
Open new paths in metroid-like world by manipulating eco-system using only two actions.
tfw vidya can no longer satisfy my autism
tfw learning biomed & robotics engineering and working as sysadmin
NOW THE REAL GAMES BEGIN
>>339549914
I'll gladly take this any day over the rest of the cancer usually plastered over /v/
XCOM
>>339546805
Why Lyne? Isn't that some ported mobile game?
What are the best SRPGs/TRPGs/Tactic games?
>>339559064
I have no idea. People seemed to say nice things about it in the other thread.
>>339557009
I did robotics engineering before moving to pharmaceutical chemistry. They are more similar than you would think.
>>339547093
I'm amazed they're still shitting out new games, and that they look and play pretty much the exact fucking same as the original.
>>339559658
Call me a pleb, but I really like Advance Wars.
Multiplayer is broken as fuck, but if you disable some COs, it's really fun.
Human Resource Machine isn't bad, I'm not a programmer but I enjoyed dicking around with low level programming concepts. Might be more boring for some of you nerd faggots who are already programming shit for a living though, I don't know.
Are there any patrician platformers?
Gimmick comes to mind
Post your favorite solutions.
>>339560920
man most people who go to school for programming skip right over this kind of shit.
>>339561854
What pupose does using only one Waldo have in working optimally?
>>339561981
When a phosphorus is input, one hydrogen has to be left behind to be tacked on to the next phosphorus. This creates a scenario that works perfectly with a flip-flop switch; the first phosphorus inputs an extra H2, while the second phosphorus does not. Since flip-flops are not shared between waldos, a setup like this is only possible with one waldo. Otherwise the second waldo would likely input an H2 at the wrong time and cause a collision.
>>339561556
People often say La Mulana
>>339555348
Why did you have to break out a spreadsheet?
>>339545839
what game is this?
>>339543703
dwarf fortress
>>339565498
bloxorz
its a flash game
>>339566130
I think I've played it, but a very long time ago.
Please don't die
>>339567648
Kay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuHV3CR-2-E
You can't just make another thread with the same text and expect it to turn out as well. That line of thinking leads to it eventually getting spammed and then shitposted into oblivion like withISOLATEDthreads.
Anyway, Infinifactory is best Zachtronics game.
>>339550364
Well it's simple use your torrent client to open your port - put the port factorie servers uses in torrent port setting and keep it open, then just use the ip you have, otherwise use no-ip client to auto set up everytime it finds a new ip - so you'll have a kind of permanent static ip.
If you have a router simply port forward and end problems.
>>339545838
Not incredibly, but it's a game that might stir your autism and make you love it. Studying units and magic and combos of both are actually pretty fun.
Start off with some faction guides to ease you into playing, and learn why the strats in the guides work. The writer usually has an explanation.
>>339545335
>vic2
>complex
fuck right off
I play vicky 2 on autopilot, it's nothing like spacechem in terms of complexity
>>339559658
Jagged Alliance 2, Frozen Synapse, Silent Storm, Original X-Com. There are a bunch of janky ass russian ones out there too which are pretty good but nowhere near as polished.
>>339561923
That's not remotely true, I used to be a CS major and I enjoy Zachtronics games and HRM, couple friends of mine are software engineers and love Zachtronics too. Hell, John Carmack was posting about TIS-100 at one point.
>>339560920
HRM reminds me more of C than Assembly.
>>339561854
Your solution infuriates me just as much as it did last thread.
I wish TIS-100 had more room for comments, back when I used to do some programming in assembly I'd comment every single goddamn line but there's just no room in TIS.
>>339570660
So, what is the overall goal of the game? To produce the target image from a specific input by writing assembly code?
>>339571006
Its a puzzle game, it gives you a certain set of inputs and a goal of how to manipulate them and you need to figure out how to do it within a limited framework. The image based puzzles are actually a very small portion of the game, most of it is just data manipulation.
Here's a different puzzle where you have to output the sum of the last three and the last 5 inputs to two separate outputs (and you need to act as if 4 0's were input before the current data set started)
>>339571294
Seems really cool. I very well might get this game.
>>339571808
If you like Spacechem, its very similar.
>>339544451
This scared the shit out of me when I was young. The falling noise.
>>339571953
Well, I've played neither, but TIS-100 seems to interest me more than Spacechem.
>>339572185
Just remember to print out the TIS manual and keep it on hand while playing, it helps a huge amount to have it physically on hand.
>>339572282
Okay, cool.
>>339545335
>Space Station 13
>Complex
Pls
>>339545838
The Dominions AI does not make interesting armies. It just piles random units up, which means it mostly chooses trash and then shovels it at you. Thus the singleplayer manages to not only be bad, which is standard for 4x games, but is also boring and a waste of most of the game's content.
Dominions multiplayer is Diplomacy (the old board game) with fancy armies. The fancy armies are fun. They are. But they are not what the game is about. You will not win or lose because of your fancy armies. You will win or lose based on your ability to get people to like you, to lie convincingly, to manipulate, to leverage every out of game factor that you can, and basically to spend lots of time talking to people out of the game about things that have nothing to do with Dominions. Which is why Diplomacy didn't bother with fancy armies, and why they are sadly kind of a waste in Dominions multiplayer.
Of course you can just play to have fun instead of playing to win, which kind of works, but you still have to wait days for everyone else to get their turn done and put up with other annoyances of turn-based multiplayer.
Also, incidentally, the most powerful path in the game is blood magic. This is fueled by collecting as many virgins from your own territories as possible, violently putting down the protesters, and butchering said virgins in maximally efficient assembly-line fashion in order to summon as many deliciously cost-effective demons as possible. So if you want to git gud at Dominions, you will need to be a manipulative liar in real life, and in the Dreamtime you will need to be a psychopath who murders his/her own people in the most horrible way for the glory of Satan. Of course it is vidya so what do you expect, but really the depravity is several tiers above Doom or even CK2 if you stop and think about it.
Kind of like reading Josephus, except without the bit that he is most famous for (well, it's kinda in there, but not really).
>>339546805
>The Last Remnant
wot
>>339573435
I have no idea; only scraped the thread, and it was mentioned and at least argued for.
>>339573463
You were rused.
>>339573767
Yeah, it happens
>>339544451
AGAAAIN!!!
>>339560920
>people who programming shit for a living
>visiting 4chins
>>339545335
Never heard of Oolite - is it good? Going to have to check that one out.
