There's been a lot of hubub the past week about SFM porn and people just brush it off saying people will look for more porn,save it, produce more etc.
I don't know man. If Blizzard/Activision really wanted to buckle down on rule34 I think they could nuke the porn scene. They could potentially take down as much rule 34 as they can from popular sites with DMCA notices. Sure people could reupload them somewhere else but they'll go after them too. It's going to get less and less views the longer this drags on. People that produce it won't bother anymore since it keeps getting taken down. This isn't even just SFM porn now. They've targeted 2D drawings too. They could really step up their game in the coming months.
Other companies could follow suit. Fair use doesn't really cover porn so everyone can get reamed in the ass.
gonna need some C+H links now for research purposes
How come no company goes after Shadbase?
>>339537990
He has an artstyle. A company gets nervous if the porn parody looks like something they might have made. And since most Overwatch stuff is SFM with the actual character models, it can be seen as defamation of Blizzard's character.
>>339537990
I wish they did, so that ugly fingerless glove wearing faggot got fucked
>>339537247
If blizz actually tried to do anything of significance they'd just be taken to court
>but muh companies always win because they rich
There are tons of artist groups, activist groups, freespeech groups etc that would back the defendent because blizzard winning would set a horrible example for the art word. Modern art would die entirely, for instance, and companies like campbells could claim ownership of an artpiece because it was made via campbells soup cans
>>339537990
Because it's not worth companies time to attempt to take down porn that doesn't look like it could be connected with them. Blizzard just wants the shit with their models down.
>>339537247
>Fair use doesn't really cover porn so everyone can get reamed in the ass.
Yes it does. Porn is art, artwork is protected speech and fair use, youa re giving companies far more powers than they have because you have the idea of companies always winning mashed into your head from the media.
Why is it suddenly not allowed for me, as an artist, to make an SFM of Tracer fucking Widowmaker, but it is totally okay for me as an artist to make a statue of a man jacking himself off, made entirely of used bigmac containers?
In both situations I am repurpousing something for artwork. This has been done for millenia.
>>339539039
Defending some greasy neckbeard's cartoon porn would just make modern art groups even more laughed at.
>>339539340
Setting a precident that companies can DMCA artwork that was created using repurpoused assets would kill off 90% of modern art.
Really the only legal basis Blizzard has is if the 3d models were ripped from the game, and possibly artists making money off of the characters' (copyrighted) likenesses.
Are the characters even copyrighted?
>>339539340
The law don't laugh, anon. The judge doesn't throw out a case while going "XDDD FUCKING KEK NERD."
>>339539449
Thank God.
>>339539537
Of course they are. The only way blizz has a claim that makes sense is if they are using those assets to make a new game or profiting. Donations ar enot profit.
Why do we need to rehash shit that has had past cases clearly setting a legal precedent.
>>339539643
I love how the average channer is completely willing to cut his head off from his body to spite someone who might vaguely annoy him once in the greatest of whiles.
>>339539781
I love how herp a derp doop I'm a fucking idiot who thinks anything on 4chan matters.
>>339539643
although you might not agree with the out-put quality of most modern artists, the fact that their are laws out there that allow them to create 99% of the trash, also allows the 1% of art that you might find interesting actually possible.
>>339539886
>dude it's the 90's man, internet is not srs business shoop da woop!
>>339539978
Art doesn't matter even in 1% of the cases. Defending art is like defending religion. You're just defending feelings.
>>339539537
>Are the characters even copyrighted?
Stupidest question of the year. Do you think they just leave the characters in the public domain?
>>339539537
>>339539172
>>339539072
https://twitter.com/SpeedoSausage/status/737465941898956801
They're not just taking down SFM vids
>>339537247
Its the Streisand effect and you faggots are falling for it 100%. They're utilising your collective outrage at their attempts to "remove" porn from the internet, causing the game to get talked about even more.
>>339540189
Any artist that abides by DMCA's as if they are court orders and bypass the judicial system are retards that deserve to have their rights taken from them.
>>339540189
That's fucking hilarious.
>>339540284
Streisand effect no longer works on the internet because the average person of this generation is too cucked and was raised to believe those with power cannot be questioned or stopped under any circumstances. No one is going to try and make more, if anything everyone has acted like OP is and has given up at the first sign of any issue.
>>339540449
Yes Sir, you're a special snowflake understands how the world really is. Thank God you've raised your voice in the time of need during this ever important cartoon porn battle.
>>339540189
That's just hentai foundry being scared bitches. It sucks that blizzard is so confident that no one will just tell them to fuck off
>>339537247
>If Blizzard/Activision really wanted to buckle down on rule34 I think they could nuke the porn scene.
I don't think you understand how much more important than videogames porn is.
>>339540302
it was removed by the site administration, no the artist himself
>>339540561
They don't allow us liberals on /pol/, anon.
>>339540638
>haha dude the rights of artists to continue creating artwork is totally unimportant man why do you even care
Must suck to be so narrow minded. Do you actually think that this sort or precedent will solely stay in fucking SFM porn? You are hopelessly naive.
>>339540638
>during this ever important cartoon porn battle
It's serious business. Mark my words! People will remember the Cartoon Porn Wars for generations to come.
>the internet is actually backing down and giving up
>tfw you are watching the death of your rights
It actually makes it hard to keep going forward in life when you know in the back of your mind that your rights are eroding at a startling speed. By the time I'm 50 I won't even have half the freedoms or rights that I did when I was 25, and it's pretty hard to want to keep living knowing things only get worse in that regard.
>>339537247
>If Blizzard/Activision really wanted to buckle down on rule34
Why would they want to do this anyway? Can't see porn doing anything but boost the popularity of their games.
Hell, Overwatch would be nothing without its porn. No one would ever talk about it, ever, it would release and literally get shut down within a month because there would be absolutely no players whatsoever, not a single download, and not even any staff playing.
>>339540897
>if you set a precedent that you cannot use assets to make artwork, this only has an effect on porn
lol
>>339540189
there are 23 pages worth of overwatch porn on hentai foundry and a few more animated ones too, why was only this particular one removed?
>>339540817
Missed the point entirely. I'm laughing at you for thinking 'the average person of this generation is too cucked and was raised to believe those with power cannot be questioned or stopped under any circumstances', when most of the internet is just bitching about shit to be changed in one way or another.
Of course whining about anything on 4chan never changes anything unless you want to doxx people but go ahead and tell us how this generation is too cucked.
>>339541042
Gambare Chihaya-chan.
>>339541042
Who the fuck is backing down? The only people giving in are companies that don't want to deal with shit.
>>339541132
Control.
>>339541159
Most of the internet is bitching in a very defeatist way. They aren't bitching in the "FIGHT DA POWAH" way, they are bitching more like subjugated people. No one thinks they can fight this because aparrently DMCA's carry SCOTUS like power.
>>339541156
There was 35 pages last week when I checked
>>339541132
Okay, now that's over-exaggerating a bit. I mean, yes the porn did help, but there was quite a lot of hype for the damn game already since the very first short. This isn't Darkstalkers or some other obscure Capcom game that only get remembered due to the nautical tons of furry porn.
>>339541273
Hfoundry
Paheal I think
Tumblr
4chan
>tfw you live in one of the least free times in human history
>>339541303
>Most of the internet is bitching in a very defeatist way. They aren't bitching in the "FIGHT DA POWAH" way, they are bitching more like subjugated people
[Citation needed]
First they came for the let's plays, I did not care because I didn't watch let's plays
Then they came for the SFM porn, I did not care because I didn't watch SFM porn
Then they came for me.
>>339541042
>muh freedumbs
stupid american
>>339541402
Do you really need someone to screencap the OP itself?
>>339541395
Really? Most of the posts I see from Tumblr and Reddit are pissed as fuck.
Technically it's art. I think the issue is the people using direct models, but then that's not exactly porn as there are no nude models made by Blizzard. I dunno man, you can't touch art though. Never works.
>>339541142
That precedent needs to be set, especially in the cases where the assets are being unlawfully ripped from games.
Oh and to imply that the garbage being made is "art" is fucking ludicrous.
If you want to feel better about this stupid shit, have something worse: Some sites now consider Kirby as cheese pizza and are banning artists.
>>339541484
>OP is most of the internet
Great, I'll start a thread about how it's a shame the age of consent is 16+ and then we can all talk about how most of the internet is run by pedos.
>>339541502
How many are posting more in defiance and not just going "WELL CALLIN IT QUITS BUT FUCK BLIZZARD THE FUCKERS"
Because most artists I've seen are giving up.
>>339541532
I don't see how this is ANY different from using household objects to make modern art, can someone please show me the fundamental difference? How is repurpousing blizzs models for animated art different from me making a "the thinker" statue out of campbells soup cans?
Just because one is digital does not change shit.
>>339541390
Yeah, it is exaggerating. But still, porn serves as yet another means of indirect promotion, I can't see it actually hurting a company ever. Darkstalkers is a good example of that. The game should have been forgotten long ago but the porn kept it in the minds of many people. It just works.
" Rumor is Blizzard hired a company by the name Irdeto and they're sending out the DMCA’s"
>>339541583
>actually wanting to censor art and free thought and give companies the ability to censor everyone
Holy shit, please never procreate
>>339541669
Possibly because some people might be charging for it? Or ads on porn sites? Though you could argue the same with regular YouTube videos. I dunno. It's extremely stupid and honestly just makes Blizzard look bad. They should have simply ignored it.
>get DMCA
>Ignore it
>Keep calm and fap on
http://irdeto.com/
http://irdeto.com/customers/case-studies.html
>>339541768
>People are actually treating this as some sort of Orwellian 1984 shit
>For cartoon porn that uses ripped in-game assets
My fucking sides are in orbit
>>339541602
That isn't worse at all. That's one stupid site being stupid. As oppossed to setting a precedent you cannot create certain types of artwork.
>>339541830
Donations aren't monetized, neither do site ads count. It's blizz over stepping their legal rights, nothing less.
>>339541602
watch out, hardcore cp incomingI wonder, how do you even know something like that?
>>339541669
That's on the artists, then. Say 'this generation of artists is the most cucked'.
>>339541920
You clearly know nothing about US law or history, so I don't see why you keep trying to talk, anon.
>>339540671
That's because liberals need to be gassed to stop the spread of bad ideals.
>>339537247
nah man people will find a way
you retards act like we dont find a way to find h-manga (+ doujins to a lesser extent since far fewer DMCAs and such) and paywalled lewd content on the web, where the publishers actually are potentially losing money. People will find a way, you can't shut it down past a certain point, rather, trying to will just create more.
Instead of going after that stupid chinese rip off, blizzard decides its better to take down SFM artists(that kinda promote the game) just because of a stupid article.
>>339542048
No, because there are plenty of other avenues this happens in. Do you want to turn this thread into a giant debate about it?
>>339542102
Horseshoe theory
>>339541684
So?
>>339542060
Ohhh shit we've got a professional burgerland internet user here better watch out hahaha He'll quote Andrew Jackson about the values of cartoon porn (that was one of your presidents btw)
>we actually have to cower and lose shit that is legally protected
>tfw you realize you live in a dystopian cyberpunk world but without the cool cybernetics and shit
>>339542152
Either Blizzard really likes porn and told Irdeto to send out DMCAs or they don't care about porn either way and gave Irdeto a wide mandate to "protect digital assets".
>>339541920
>it's okay to open the door to fascism a little bit because it's just porn
>>339537247
Blizzard is just trolling to get attention again
>>339542296
Fascism is fine if it's corporate based fascism.
>>339542142
>Do you want to turn this thread into a giant debate about it?
If you're implying that's a bad idea, why bring it up at all? Is it because you like the feeling of smug, thinking you see the world as it really is?
Fuck off, fag. You're on fucking 4chan, arguing about cartoon porn that a shit videogame company is making a minor issue out of. You're not Martin Luther King, nigger.
>>339542393
>acting like this is a small issue
Don't cry when you live under corporate fascism, teenager.
>>339540638
>makes statement about people being too cowardly to question power
>immediately attacked by someone trying to belittle the statement
I dunno man, seems like they already got you.
>>339541768
Hyperbole much?
I didn't say anything about censoring people.
The SFM porn that's being created uses assets that have been stolen, it's copyright infringement.
This isn't fair use, it isn't protected by reverse engineering laws.
It's theft.
>>339542765
It isn't, and you are rewriting legal definitions and changing rights solely to allow a company to have more rights than granted by law.
Why do you want this? Why do you want a future where corporate fascism is a real thing?
It is and has always been legal to take assets from one thing and use them in another. This has been done for millenia.
Rather than just retype the same unresponded to argument for the 5th time I'll just copypaste it and you can explain the difference
I don't see how this is ANY different from using household objects to make modern art, can someone please show me the fundamental difference? How is repurpousing blizzs models for animated art different from me making a "the thinker" statue out of campbells soup cans?
Just because one is digital does not change shit.
>>339540449
>is too cucked
Stopped reading right there. I hope you weren't trying to make a point.
>>339542139
You can't go after a company in a different country that can straight up ignore your laws.
>>339543308
I mean if you can ignore your host countries laws for your own benefit, why not?
>>339543460
Not like there's any repercussions.
If rule 34 is "if it exists, there is porn of it" and there's no porn of me, do I exist?
>>339542373
You're going to kill us all with that type of thinking.
Joke's on you, I have Overwatch tag blacklisted on every porn site I frequent along with Marie_Rose and My_Little_Pony.
>>339543938
I'd edit your post over some fellatio porn but I don't want to get the banhammer
>>339540449
Someone hasn't been on aco recently. Its swarmed the board.
>>339537247
When it comes to shit like rule 34, the Streisand effect will amplify by a massive degree. MLP has the second biggest amount of rule 34 in the 5 and a half years it has existed. Hell, MLP in itself got popular thanks to the same shit. The more angry people get about something and try and shut it down, the more exposure it gets.
Why the fuck would this be the exception?
>>339537990
Because Shadbase isn't hosted on Hentai Foundry or Tumblr or pornhub/redtube/etc. They'd have to reach him directly, not through a site staff that tends to comply with DMCAs automatically.
>>339539039
>Modern art would die entirely
Good
It's all referential pop art anyways. It greatly saddens me.
>>339540449
This is scarily accurate despite what cucks might say to the contrary.
Moralfags (ie children) have won.
>>339541671
Protip, Overwatch is meant for underages. Blizzards target audience. When the little shits parent googles for whatever the shit eater can't stop screaming about the last thing you need is for a bunch of porn to show up.
>>339545558
I'm pretty sure MLP is done thanks to its fanbase of weirdo guys.
No one will want touch it now. Like no one will touch a used condom
>>339547218
That's absolutely wrong. I guess since I dislike anime and its fan base, then anime is also finished and the number of people that attend anime conventions is irrelevant as well?
>>339547218
MLP is still popular, but bandwagoners mostly left so it's more discreet these days. It also helps that the most autistic part of the fanbase made everyone else wary of their powerlevels.
>>339546834
So is pokemon but that hasn't gotten nintendo sending out lawyers against rule34 artists
>>339545174
That only proves my post exists, not that I do.
>>339547218
>Like no one will touch a used condom
>not sharing a condom with your bro>implying any of us have had sex
why would they censor/delete everything?
ist that the best possible publicity they can get? kids that fap to fan made porn and play the game even more to unlock costume #3512 because it looks sexier then the standart outfit?
>>339548218
They have.
There was a doujin called wonderful tepig ( Or something like that) that got C&Ded
>>339548218
>but that hasn't gotten nintendo sending out lawyers against rule34 artists
Nigger nintendo used to be absurdly vigilant with that. Had an entire big law team dedicated purely to it.
Only company in the world stricter about it is Disney
>>339549975
Did they take down frozen porn too?
>>339549975
And they lost most of the times in America. Remember, they had to actually buy the rights for super pornio bros and then try to get all copies off the streets. The law didn't just go "Ok baby Nintendo, we'll ignore these peoples rights because you have money"
>>339546189
You are aweare this requires art in general to take a massive hit in freedom, right? What am I saying, of course you don't. /v/ermin are always happy to fuck themselves over to mildly annoy someone else.
>>339539643
>>339539643
t. edgelord who knows nothing about censorship
>>339545185
I did, and the consensus there was "don't post SFM" and "man it sure sucks we can't get sfm BECAUSE OF BLIZZ ANYMORE" posts
>>339550478
No, because they don't have the legal right any more than I have the legal right to take down your post.
>>339549789
Artist said it wasn't in his followup manga
>>339551786
We get it, "haha no more bad art," but honestly at least there's a silver lining if we somehow lose those rights. People will actually have to use effort to make money.
>>339541583
please retake your middle school level government course
Blizzard only took notice once it started being covered by mainstream media. They don't give two shits about Overwatch porn being made, they care about it causing a ruckus and negative publicity.
They aim is most likely to make any content linked from those sites to go to dead links. In a couple weeks things should die down and everything will go back to normal assuming creators don't stay scared.
>>339553052
Content creators and hosting sites need to be called out for how easily they've folded, this isn't the time for passive aggressiveness
