![AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Specifications[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JfFoOX3.jpg "AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Specifications[1].jpg")
It's official, AMD is dead.
>>339499303
>200 bucks
>5.5 tflops and can likely OC to 6.5 tflops
>480 is the low end of things
Say what?
>>339499370
Nobody has said 200 dollarry doo's for this or anything. Unless there's a stream or something i don't know about going on.
>>339499464
The r9 380 is below mid range and was around that price at release
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2980028/components-graphics/amd-radeon-r9-380-review-the-best-200-graphics-card-you-can-buy-for-1080p-gaming.html
The r9 480 is the replacement
Can't wait to see what the 490 and higher are going to be.
When did people start championing teraflops like it means anything to an end user.
Is this a joke I missed, or are people seriously reviving bit wars?
>>339499303
Hey where's the hbm model?
>>339499952
>seriously reviving bit wars?
What are the bit wars you speak of oldtimer?
>>339500071
I thought most of /v/ were old enough for PS2 and Gamecube to be their first console.
>>339499670
Not bad for that price range. I'll wait until the bench of marks though. I can't wait until the end of the year for the higher end stuff so if this isn't some god tier dollar per frame then i'll have to skip it in favor of the 1070 probably.
>>339499303
>X next to DX12 Async compute for Maxwell
Nice to see AMD is starting the lies early.
>>339500193
That doesn't answer my question you old coot
>>339499370
Let me translate the picture from PR speak for you.
>Up to 5.5 TFLOPS
~5 TFLOPS
>Premium AAA and VR Gaming
AAA and VR Gaming from 2 years ago
>1x 6pin
We still haven't caught the competition on efficiency
>DX12 w/Async Compute
You'll get higher numbers in Ashes benchmark.
>DisplayPort 1.4, Full HVEC Support, HDR Ready
We have no other positives to say, so we'll list stuff that didn't exist in 2014 as big pluses.
>Between the lines
We fucked up so badly we couldn't even produce cards that would exceed our last gen flagship, but we'll spin it as targeting mainstream first so it doesn't look bad.
>>339500298
Maxwell supports DX12, not async though. It's why AMD outperforms the 900 series.
>>339500346
bit wars refers to consoles that came out in generally the 1990's where all advertising was based on how many bits it had more than anything else. Companies almost frantically tried to assemble machines with the most bits, this is where atari and sega lost their shit for good.
That's the best of my understanding of it. At the time i personally didn't know or care i just wanted video games.
>>339500298
That's their standard operating procedure. No other tech company does that, but since they have nothing to lose anymore they've decided to probe the deepest depths of shame.
It's well-known that AMD hardware is subpar compared to Intel + Nvidia hardware. This is also further compounded by the fact that Intel + Nvidia have better drivers and a better relationship with game developers. Intel + Nvidia is well-supported and well optimized.
AMD is the budget-bin bargain thrift-store 2nd-rate bottom-bucket off-brand no-name poor-people choice. AMD tried to make up for this with Mantle, but Mantle failed.
Why would you go to McDonalds for a hamburger when you can go to 5 Guys or In and Out?
>>339500514
>our last gen flagship
>200 dollars
>flagship
oh am i laughing
>>339500603
>It's why AMD outperforms the 900 series.
In AMD© Gaming® Evolved™ titles.
>>339500704
>but we'll spin it as targeting mainstream first so it doesn't look bad.
I'm not surprised you conveniently ignored this.
>>339500673
>this is what Nvidiots believe
It's always been that AMD has better hardware but shittier drivers which overall made them worse.
>>339500839
>better hardware
It's not 2003 - 2006 anymore.
>>339500839
>not knowing AMD has had better drivers for a few years now
Buying Nvidia is just idiotic.
>>339500920
You're right which is why amd is shitstomping nvidia now
>>339500839
>>339500995
>>339500838
So care to explain then why this 200 dollar card has better specs than Nvidias 980 for less than half the price?
>>339500603
But that's wrong.
>>339500193
>PS2
>Gaycube
Are you 14 years old?
I started gaming with Sega Megadrive 2 (with Urban Strike neatly predicting 9/11), and everyone younger than me is a gay kiddie.
Everyone older than me is an autistic pedo who should be raising family by now.
>>339501027
In AMD© Gaming® Evolved™ titles.
I'll probably buy that to tide me over until large Vega. Can't deal with playing Hitman at 720p and 30fps. Seems like a good deal really.
>>339501117
>980
>28 nm
>September 2014
>480(x)
>14 nm
>June 2016
Ring a bell?
>>339500615
>Companies almost frantically tried to assemble machines with the most bits, this is where atari and sega lost their shit for good.
Wonder how since that's basically what sony and ms are about to do.
>>339499303
>comparing themselves to the 900 series when the 1000 series is about to release
>5.5 TFlops on the fucking 480 when the PS4.5 was rumored to have 4
lol
>>339499303
>1x 6-pin
for what purpose
>>339501253
Ok mr. gameworks®™ pr man
>>339500995
What's really funny is that Nvidia drivers have been garbage for like the last 5 releases.
>>339501434
Power.
>>339499303
b-b-but muh revolutionary HBM2
>Tfw 1070 best the Fury X
I literally don't give a fuck.
I bought AMD and I had problems with games.
I always had to disable a certain thing or tweak something to work right, sure it worked right in the end but it was always a hassle.
Hell, weird side cases are still unplayable on my AMD rig. Emulation is also a big problem.
I'll always value a better user experience over anything else, which is why I deal with nvidias jewery. I don't give a fuck if you bribe people to get better performance for the end user. I'm the end user.
>>339501507
Yeah, but not having 2x is stupid.
>>339501523
That's confirmed for Vega mate.
might be cool for 1080p since 1070/80 are overkill already
>>339501341
Atari's and Sega's fault wasn't even in pursuing a specific marketing path, but in having idiotic executives who didn't know shit about engineering, consoles and games, while Sony had non-braindead people at its helm.
Right now, both Sony and Microsoft are staffed exclusively with fat cat niggers who don't care about the industry, and only see numbers on paper. They don't have any competition, so they can carry on being idiots without anyone disturbing their oligopoly.
>>339501598
What? Why? It doesn't need more wattage, less is better. More is only used if it's needed, this GPU does not need it.
>>339501407
5.5 TFlops is pretty respectable, anon.
Not that tflops mean much, but a 980Ti is around 5.6 and a 980 is only 4.6. A 290x was around 5.6 too though.
PS4.5 is literally double the graphics cores, so something like 7850 crossfire. That's R9 290 tier performance and pretty solid overall.
>>339501574
Yup.
ATi went downhill after AMD bought them.
Sadly, the only worthwhile choice is nVidia now.
The best thing we can do is convince people to buy AMD to keep nVidia competitive.
>>339499303
god damn if they just unfucked their drivers and made a new processor that ACTUALLY competed against Intel they'd be on top
>>339501689
overclocking
fan rpm
etc
>>339501701
I know 5.5 is good. Damn good in fact. But the 480 is a pretty low tier card and it already smokes the "new top of the line hasn't even been released yet console update"
It's just funny to me.
>>339501804
>overclocking
>fan rpm
It most likely has enough room for that. And it's funny to imply that fan RPM requires a lot of wattage.
>etc
What?
>>339501407
>5.5 TFlops on the fucking 480 when the PS4.5 was rumored to have 4
Yes this is the budget card the neo will be compared to most likely. On top of it being able to overclock past 6 tflops it shouldn't be that big of an issue.
Also since it's low end how many tflops does the 1060 push again?
>>339501980
Anon I was making fun of the PS4.5, and giving kudos to AMD.
Relax my man.
>>339502106
>Relax my man.
Huh? I was wondering how many the 1060 has since I haven't seen anything on it
>>339501341
In that time frame it was literally about the bits, they added almost nothing to the gaming experience in a lot of the cases.
Sony and MS are doing something a little difference, to them right now it's about resolution which isn't a bad thing but they're doing it with VERY subpar hardware for the demands of 4k.
At most they might finally get that 1080p promise they made years ago but i doubt at 60 fps still.
>>339502207
Nobody knows because it hasn't been announced yet, and nothing about it has leaked yet.
>>339502281
MS can EASILY get 4k but only at 30 fps.
Sony might if they keep the same graphics we currently have.
>>339502207
Don't think they announced it yet(?)
>>339499303
>AMD said that they will concentrate their efforts in mid range cards with polaris, the place where they are strong
>People are somehow fucking surprised about it
>>339501916
>overclocking
>1 6-pin
>It most likely has enough room for that.
doubt it
>>339501916
1x 6pin is usually bare minimum wattage to run the card and leaves virtually no room for anything else. Though, it's total speculation, and this image could be faked anyways.
>>339500615
BLAST PROCESSING
>>339502441
15 Watt at least, maybe more.
>>339502458
Seems like it's under the 150 Watt maximum by at least 10%, probably more.
Redpill me on AMD /v/
Everyone says it is cheaper but at best I save $100 and the performance seems to be notoriously worse than Goy(TM) Nvidia +Intel.
>>339502575
8-pin is designed to supply up to 150W of power, the 6-pin only 75W.
>>339502648
You get that smug feeling of being in the minority.
Like Genesis owners or DOTA 2 players.
>>339502371
Highly doubt it. Cards that can run 4k at 30 fps even still cost hundreds of dollars. If they hope to achieve that at all they'll either have to take a loss on console sales and have software make up the differences.
If they can make it like that though they had better have a 1080p option so you can reach 60 fps.
>>339502727
Do you not use a PCI express slot?
The 400 series must have Nvidia pretty nervous.
Their shills are astroturfing hard already.
>>339500514
why having more pins is a sign of efficiency ?
>>339501712
>>339501574
Doubling down on this. I had one ATi card (the HD 5870) and had so many goddamn driver problems with it. Playing old games was actually a huge hassle and despite the fact I saved SOME money, it became old much quicker than my 770 has, and the 770 was the worst card series from Nvidia since the 400-series.
>>339500514
One problem with that though, it says "enthusiast sweet spot." A flagship card is certainly not "sweet spot" - likely it's the upper mid-range card imo
>>339502648
Nvidia is great at mid range.
970 vs 390 has mostly gone for 390s favor in the last year and it's way cheaper than 970 (at least in here where i live).
AMD also got their shit together with drivers which are pretty great.
Nvidia has easily the best high end cards. There's almost no competition there.
>>339502648
They make good midrange cards while the competition doesn't.
If you want an enthusiast card, ignore them.
>>339502648
AMD has better value on the low end, usually. Nvidia dominate high end though. Its not even competitive.
>>339503129
Is it just me or has this gif slowed down even more the last few months?
>>339503129
For all the times I've seen this gif, I've never had this problem with my 970.
Copers gonna cope.
>>339502956
I have an AMD card right now. I downloaded the new drivers so Doom would run better and it broke Overwatch for me even though the driver was "Overwatch ready". Buying a 1070 in June.
>>339501574
Well if we're offering up anecdotes, I've had a 4850, a 6950 and now 2x 7970s and literally the only problems I've had whatsoever were related to crossfire shenanigans. In fact other people are now using the 4850/6950 with zero problems as well. Fuck crossfire though, never doing multiple GPUs again.
>>339503241
just like the gtx 780
>>339503129
>>339503302
The problem only happens playing beyond 1080p
>>339503129
Agree. I got fooled by nvidia buying a shitty 970 that ain't worth a shit. Can't wait to see all the retards buy nvidia only to cry about it again.
For AMD the -80 suffix means it's a low-end card, the equivalent to the 60s from nVidia. Radeon 480 is basically a GTX 1060. The question is what the 490, the counterpart to the 1070, will be like.
>>339503302
>>339503351
Or anything that uses a lot of VRAM for some reason, which doesn't happen a lot.
>>339503394
Vega11 probably. HBM2. Vega10 will be Fury2.
>>339503394
70 is low end
80 and x is mid range
90 and x is high range
Everything else is enthusiast level
>>339503391
>that ain't worth a shi
I had mine since October 2014 and it's been a champ. Played everything I threw at it at Ultra or almost Ultra at 1080p/60.
And when I bought it it was 30% cheaper than a 290x while being on par in performance, overclocking well and not needing too much juice.
It took AMD 9 months to react to it.
Worth a shit IMO.
>>339502787
Okay, there is that.
I understand for gaming the performance might be garbage, but how about rendering, is it even viable there?
I don't know shit about their CPU and that has been buggin me for a while.
how do they actually compare performance wise to intel? I get a lot of data that says nothing to me, while Intel simply releases a bigger number that tells my goy brain it is newer with a couple of benchmark screens to support their claims. Yes I am tech retarded, but Intel will always be the choice of most people because they get the point across quickly, meanwhile it seems AMD tries to hide the fact they are shit under spreadsheets and technical information...pretty sure if I knew how their CPU Arquitecture worked I would still lean towards Intel anyhow.
I see the R9 380 on the same tier as the 960, and it requires much more power. The GTX 1070 is about as powerful as a Titan and it can run perfectly on a measly 500W PSU. I don't see the savings people talk so much about, just lower quality.
>>339503557
You only named it something else, the comparison between the 1060 still stands, just that now you say that the 1060 is also midrange.
>>339503394
80 cards are mid ranger. Lower range is the 60 and 70.
>>339503674
We don't know about 1060 yet
>>339503730
We can speculate, just like we can about the 480's position.
>>339503665
To my knowledge when it comes to rendering Intel blows AMD out of the fucking water. I don't know a single editing group that doesn't use intel.
>>339503781
Making 1060 comparable to current high end card would be a weird business choice
Granted 1000 series boost in performance is just too big, so it can happen
>>339503417
I mean, even when you go over 3.5, nothing really happens. It's just a meme AMD drones like to throw around to make their budget hardware seem like it was a good choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZ7XqraaIc
>>339503824
Wll sure, AMD's top end desktop CPU is from 2012, is insanely power hungry compared to Intel and performance is somewhere around Ivy Bridge i7.
There's still hope Zen will be good though.
>>339503968
>I mean, even when you go over 3.5, nothing really happens.
Depends on with what you go over it mate.
>>339503953
Calling your ultra high end card that should power 4k resolutions and shit the "1080" is a weird business choice as well. Nvidia isn't perfect when it comes to marketing.
>all these shills
480 is a 2048 shader part with 1350mhz core
480X is a 2560 shader part, not sure on clock speed
If the 480 is comparable to the 980, ie above the 390X, and the 480X is already 25% faster from core count alone, you're looking at 980 Ti performance even with no clock speed increases from the 480. It's a 1070 competitor.
>>339504286
>Based on nothing
The RX 480 is 2048 shaders, 1350MHz. There's no R9 480, or R9 480X.
>>339504931
2304 no?
>>339503994
>There's still hope Zen will be good though.
LIKE THE DOZER
>>339505070
>>339505204
Hopefully it won't be that much of a disaster.
>>339505218
All the leaks so far suggested 2304 for the cut core and 2560 for the full one.
>>339501407
They're at the same price point, so it's definitely a fair comparison. You can't get a 1000 series nvidia you for less than $400
>>339505484
Not anymore at least then. Or you could just be wrong.
>>339501825
Same thing happened 3 years ago. Current gen was DOA. refresh is even worse.
>>339502648
Good GPUs, bad CPUs. Intel + and master race.
>>339505484
The 2304 was a mobile chip iirc
>>339505767
That would make no sense, I doubt they have Polaris 9 or something just for notebooks.
Mobile chips will be further cut down versions of the desktop ones, I think it's doubtful that those would have more CU's.
>>339505878
That's basically what Polaris 11 is for.
>>339502947
ignore him, he's a completely fucking retarded fanboy
>>339505218
>posting worst symphogeah
>>339506154
Your taste is fucking awful, holy shit. She's2ndbest.
>>339505204
Jim "certified shit wrecker" Keller is in charge of Zen. AMD will deliver.
>>339505878
The full Polaris 10 is 2560 mate, the 2304 config (ie with two shader clusters disabled) one that got leaked was a mobile chip. ie the M490 or w/e they'll call it.
>>339506381
In that case the slide has to be about a cut down version too.
Since to get 5.5 TFLOPS with a 2560 shader core it would have to clock at just 1.1 Ghz, which is way too low.
>>339504102
>Calling your ultra high end card that should power 4k resolutions and shit the "1080" is a weird business choice as well
Not really, it's just how naming works. You would have to do weird skipping shit, like they've did with 800 series, or rebrand to change the name. Both hurt the company more than implications of the name of the card
>>339506627
They should have rebranded though. Almost as dumb as and beginning a new naming scheme and starting the number at 9
>>339506627
>Not really, it's just how naming works.
>You would have to do weird skipping shit, like they've did with 800 series, or rebrand to change the name.
I mean, yes?
>Both hurt the company more than implications of the name of the card
I wouldn't think so.
>>339506505
Which is why it's 480 in the image.
The 480X is the full 2560 shader part.
>>339506841
>RX 480
>Still talking about the 480X
Yeah, sure. They'll release a fucking RX 480X.
>>339506752
>I mean, yes?
I mean, why? 800 was an exception and it did set not a very good precedent that led to the confusion for people that are not very good with following the current market. I know this firsthand because I have friends who are not very interested, and I had to explain to them why 800 was missing multiple times.
>I wouldn't think so.
Well that's like your opinion, man.
>>339506627
The biggest issue is Nvidia has already used 4 digit names for their GPUs, this is just going to make things more confusing.
>>339506960
>I mean, why?
Because 1080p you dipshit.
>>339506997
It's called GTX 1080
>>339507114
I know.
>>339506891
M8, the Rx is because it's the successor to r9. X means 10.
>>339507157
Just like R7 was the precursor to the R9? And how there's a R8?
>can't even wait for the livestream
>hurr why is this value card not as good as this $700 card
fanboys are mentally ill
Who else is waiting for the 1060?
>>339507219
Yeah. OK. I'm done with you.
>>339507360
Because you forgot about that bullshit I guess?
280(X) had between 3-4 TFlops for 250-300$.
380(X) had between 3.5-4 TFlops for 200-230$.
290(X) had between 4.8-5.6 TFlops for 400-550$.
390(X) had between 5.1-5.9 TFlops for 330-430$.
480 has supposedly up to 5.5 TFlops for ?$.
Pretty good entry level card. Can't wait to see the 490 and particularly the enthusiast cards.
>>339507443
490 will likely be around 7-8 tflops at this rate
>>339506627
Nvidia skipped, with a gap or series of rebrands, the 9000's, 100's, 300's, 500's, and 800's.
>>339507560
Closer to 11
>>339507741
What makes you think that?
If the 380 had around 3.5 tflops and the 480 has 5.5
Then the 390's replacement should be around 7-8
>>339500673
Paid shills. They work for a company that pays them to spread buzz on 4chan for political reasons. These companies are funded by the government, they want you to think a certain way, they want you to have a specific opinion. It's an old strategy, they're trying to divide and alienate 4chan users. This is why 4chan users are always so fucked up. You are literally being brainwashed and you don't even know it.
They're not advertising a product, they're not trying to sell you anything, they just want to control your way of thinking and your beliefs. That's why it's really difficult to recognize shills from genuine posters on 4chan, because ultimately we are all trying to change your way of thinking. But these stealth marketing companies do this structurally. They lie, they spread misinformation and propaganda.
Shills will spam threads, samefag in threads and argue with you according to the script they were given. When you refute their arguments they have to derail the thread and will often respond with something like >being this autistic. When confronted. They will actively try to get the last word so it looks like their argument won, so their argument looks good in front of the crowd and yours lost. It's all part of their script, they get paid to do this. DO NOT argue if you suspect someone is a shill. Just hide and report the post.
Sometimes there are 2 rival shilling companies that are trying to shill opposing opinions and they end up arguing with each other just to set up a show for you guys. Sometimes they don't even know the other guy is a paid shill aswell and they can't ask because they have to stay sincere. It's ridiculous.
The amount of shills has really skyrocketed recently. About 35% of posts aren't genuine posters anymore. That means about 1 in 3 anons is a paid viral marketer who is sitting in an office and gets paid to argue with you. Do not fall for it.
Source: i worked for a stealth marketing company on /pol/, /r9k/ and /b/
>>339506891
You're talking about the company who released a card called the X1950 XTX CrossFireX Edition, and XFX was one of the manufacturers for it as well.
>>339508027
>Paid shills.
As opposed to unpaid shills? Dipshit.
>>339507964
Vega is confirmed 4096 shaders
>>339507356
I got a 750ti and I was looking forward to the next cheap buckaroo card, the 960 and the 970 are dropping in price, but the GTX1070 value plus power consumption is a no brainer.
If AMD does actually deliver, this is possibly the true middle ground of budget gaming. Just as powerful as 970 or 980 for about $200, it is a sweet deal.
I might get the 1070 because I got a 550 PSU and I won't go higher because power spikes are a fucking bitch down on this bitch, and I cannot get a good spike suppressor + ups combo that goes higher than 1000va which is good enough to keep my PC alive.
I had to change my UPS, PSU and mobo due to a outstanding power spike a couple of months ago. My 700Va UPS had been great taking hits until then.
>>339508027
I'll humor you
What exactly is the way of thinking they want us to hold?
Cheapest but best build possible?
>>339501574
Nobody cares if you're too retarded to use a video card
>>339507219
>>339507157
>>339507426
How one company can be so bad at marketing?
This is honestly why more people just hang out with intel, they could get catch all the new people who are just venturing into building their very first PC or simply upgrading a pre-built if they were not this bad at marketing.
>>339508027
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...
>>339508027
Sure is infowars around here.
This was good pasta before it all become Trump posting.
>>339499303
Benchmarks when?
>>339509410
tomorrow
>>339509246
I used to masturbate onto birds at a local park. Not a thing that I'm particularly proud. I was taking zinc supplements so I was shooting massive loads and it became something of a sport to me.
first, you need to find an isolated area so you don't become a sex offender. I found a short kind of channel area where I saw the pigeons would congregate. Next, you arouse yourself. I was usually content with envisioning the occasional jogging lady coming over and taking a shit on my chest and that was enough to fuel the fire but if you're not as sexually charged as me just take some porn on the go. After you're good an horny, you get some bread.
My pigeons preferred white bread but healthier birds might have a taste for honey wheat or maybe even multigrain. Fat, unhealthy birds are slower and easier to hit so remember that.
Once you are seated on the bench and ready to do the deed, whip your roosevelt out and scatter bread out within a few feet of you. use your judgement based on how far you know you can cum. I was a lonely soul who could hit targets the size of a thimble at distances up to 4 feet.
You wait for the pigeons to begin eating and to get comfortable with your presence. At this point, you want to coo gently and talk sensually to them to gain their trust. Now you're finally ready to cum on your bird.
This is a tough part because the rapid motion of masturbation is very frightening to the birds, so you have to be subtle. Once you master a technique, you simply wind it up and go, aiming depending on your past cumming experiences.
I always came high so I would aim for the neck of the bird and catch it right in the face. It's an extremely satisfying and erotic feeling, seeing those birds reel around covered in cum and maybe even transporting it to other places in the city. Either way I haven't done it in years but I catch myself gazing wistfully at a flock of birds, cock throbbing and waiting for them to land close to me.
>>339500193
>PS2 and Gamecube
>bit wars
They stopped talking about bits in the 6th gen.
so do we have any idea what the price range for the new AMD cards will be?
>>339508027
>being this autistic
(This post brought to you by the NWO: Let's Globalize!)
>>339509998
Probably below 250$, definitely below 300$, maybe below 200$ though I doubt that.
>>339510132
If it is below $250 it's a damn good deal and worth buying.
I'll always have AMD builds but thats just because I want to keep competition alive. I really wish there were a third party to stop the jewery.
>>339499953
Wait for 2017 - VEGA meanwhile Big Pascal will have it as well.
>this is it ladies and gents, AMD is against the ropes and NEEDS to succeed in other to regain some momentum! What will AMD do?!
>AMD goes all in on a market they can be easily pushed out of just with Nvidia doing aggressive price cuts.
UUUUMMM.....
>>339510543
Which is what AMD is trying to achieve. A good mid range card that isn't niche.
>>339510785
>Nvidia doing aggressive price cuts
>>339510706
Actually, "Big Pascal" would be this card, the RX 480. Small Vega and big Vega will both have HBM2, small Vega releasing this year.
>>339501712
>The best thing we can do is convince people to buy AMD to keep nVidia competitive.
Dis..
Please buy an inferior card for the sake of Israel, so I can get the better card from the anti-semitic green at reasonable prices. :^)
>>339510785
Are you kidding me they could much more easily get pushed out of the CPU market. They've always been less than 10% in the CPU market but they have just recently reached even close to that in the GPU market
>>339511428
Nvidia is only better for higher end cards. Such as the Titan x or 980ti.
Everything below that, if you buy nvidia you are just throwing away money
>>339510963
>"Big Pascal" would be this card, the RX 480.
Topkek. Are you doing it for free? :^)
>>339511623
But that's the truth. It's the Polaris 10. The big one.
>>339511706
Not that poster, I think he means that big pascal = pascal version Titan or 1080ti, they will have HBM2.
Yeah I agree the big Polaris 10 is RX 480, but it fails to compete against 1070 miserably.
Time to wait wait wait for VEGA, which is a 2017 product -- AMD stated quite clearly this just last week.
>>339512167
>pascal version Titan or 1080ti, they will have HBM2.
That doesn't exist, that's Vega.
>>339499303
my 970 has 1 8 pin
>there are people who unironically buy nvidia
Guys, the R9 280 launched at $279.
AMD also has no Nvidia competition in the midrange (no GTX 1060).
This card will be more than $250, likely close to $300. Do not expect miracles.
>>339512518
Who knows. GDDR5X is pretty good.
I am fine with either.
>>339512932
How do you ironically buy computer hardware?
>>339513515
With money
>>339499303
>Full HVEC Support, HDR Ready
Can someone explain what does it mean?
Weren't the new cards supposed to have HBM?
My 7870 is showing its age but I'm not sure if I should upgrade right away
>>339500298
async compute means that the chip can freely interleave rendering shaders with compute (AI, postprocessing, VR time-warp, etc.) shaders.
GCN can do this, Maxwell and 1070/1080 do global context switches ("preemption") instead.
It's not strictly necessary, but it makes Maxwell decidely shitty for a few things including VR.
>>339514507
>not waiting for Volta
>>339514507
wait for 2017
Unless you need a card now, buy 1070 or 1080 if you want better.
>>339514641
>>339514646
>Wait for ...
Fuck off you won't buy shit that way retard
>>339514507
gooks can't into HBM2 fast enough.
Also, Pascal was originally supposed to be based off another standard called HMC (more density/fanout but higher power and latency), but that got scrapped.
1070/1080 is really just a shrunk and overclocked Maxwell with one or two minor features added.
GP100 (enterprise HBM2 monster) and GP102 (1080 Ti?, if it's even real) are the real Pascal, and it's not clear yet how well they'll really work.
>>339514646
Not really. The only games I wish ran a bit better are Witcher 3 and Doom, but they still run better than consoles. Guess I can wait more
>>339499303
business as usual, AMD has been running things for 6 years now
>>339514641
>>339514646
>wait for pascal
>wait for polaris
Always the same with these faggots.
>>339515039
you can't just cut off a club thumb and think we won't know
>>339515291
Well, there are 1070 & 1080, no more wait. Go buy them.
Unless you want a big badass one, wait for 2017. Big Pascal or Vega.
>>339501825
The 480 looks like a good upgrade from my old 770, considering that I'm too late to get a 970 and a 1070 will be expensive for a full year before getting to reasonable pricing.
>>339499303
So fanfuckery aside, the verdict is basically:
>Buy a 1070 or wait until next year.
Right?
You guys do realize that the price point for this GPu is $199-249 dollars?
This isn't the flag ship stupids.
>>339515797
That's not fanfuckery mate, that's called an opinion.
Look it up, you could use one
>>339515797
pretty much.. Unless you support Israel (AMD has facilities in there), wait until next year. see >>339511428
Otherwise, buy 1070.
>>339515872
>You guys do realize that the price point for this GPu is $199-249 dollars?
Not confirmed.
>>339516218
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-graphics-card-leak/
>>339516121
Intel's research is done in Israel too you retard. You have Jewish hardware inside your desktop regardless of brand loyalty.
>>339516294
>currytech
>leak
>the slide doesn't say the price.
Nope.
>>339515797
I'd go Polaris if you plan on sticking to 1080p and maxing out recent console ports. Go with the 1070 if you see yourself getting a 2k monitor to go along with it to see some visual difference. The 1080 is for people that have too much money and nothing to spend it on.
>>339516446
Yup, Intel and AMD have facilities in Israel meanwhile Nvidia doesn't because they are anti-semitic chinks & whites.
>>339501574
I'm still and AMD user and I can't help but agree with the emulation thing. I have people with half the specs I have, running shit I can barely get to work, simpy because I picked AMD. It's fucking stupid.
Ever notice how the only site AMD drones use for information is wccftech?
Why is that?
>>339516690
>>339501574
It is common knowledge that the emulation for Amd is Mediocre and that Nvidia is Excellent in this article.
https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-emulator-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/
Way better perf/dollar than 1070
Why would you buy a ~$400 card when a $200-$250 plays every game on the market fine @2560x1440? No reason unless you want 4k, but even 4k works well enough on 980 tier cards.
>AMD is shit
My favourite meme
>>339517029
>>339517029
Because of cherrypicking and shilling. They do it for free.
>>339517293
Don't you know, more money = better! Gotta make it seem like that $500+ GPU/CPU was worth buying, right?
>>339517357
>meme
>>339515513
And in 2017 there will be whatever from 2018 to get. Its always the same song and dance. Unless there is something coming out within the next 2-3 months, just get whatever is best at the time.
Once you add a year wait period, you will never get anything, because a year will always mean something better.
What's the point in buying new cards if you don't play at 4k when the only games that will push 280/970 cards at 1080p arebadly optimizedmultiplat games?
>>339518283
Nvidia gimping performance on older cards I guess. Which is why I haven't owned a nv card since the 8800gt.
>>339518283
Not everyone uses a poorfag 60hz panel.
>>339499303
Nvidia's strategy is to aggressively pursue the high-end to increase the average price to increase their profits. People are vicariously masturbating themselves over a fucking $600 graphics card, while their mid-range lineup has increasingly disappeared. The cost of an Intelvidia setup is increasingly obscene.
AMD is hoping they can leverage advantages from the consoles. The problem is that by losing the high-end, they are losing the marketing war, and it doesn't seem to matter whether their shit offers way better bang for your buck.
My feeling is that Microsoft releases a high-end Xbox that doubles as a PC, which turns into a baseline for PC gaming. Because otherwise the situation looks a bit dire for AMD right now.
(AMD might have a bit of a better chance against Intel, given that CPU increases matters less, especially single-threaded CPU when AMD struggle. Again, the consoles are using even shitter versions of AMD's processors)
>>339514507
IMO, wait for the 1070. Either buy one near-ish launch (Nvidia aren't going to do price cuts) or buy a second-hand 970/980 when prices crash due to upgraders.
>>339500995
AMD went 9 months straight without a driver update recently.
>>339518683
>amd
>any chance against intel
they gave up the fight with bulldozer.
I literally just bought a GTX 980. How retarded am I?
>>339518863
>AMD went 9 months straight without a driver update recently.
Source? What a load of shit.
>>339518683
The thing about having such a high power ceiling with Nvidia's 1000 series is that their midrange 1000 series cards are going to be incredibly powerful for their price, and AMD's gonna have a tough time competing even with that.
>>339500071
Back in the day when we had Sega vs Nintendo 8bits vs 16 bits vs 32 bits vs 64 bits, fucking hell don't get me started on the Atari Jaguar flaunting their 64bit as superior platform.
ahh fuck it check it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb73kHBAirU
>>339518885
CPUs are hitting diminishing returns. When performance is good enough for basically everything, why not go for the cheaper option?
AMD bet prematurely on multi-core, but this raped them on games as their single-threaded performance was terrible. But shit is changing:
1. their new CPUs are more powerful, hitting "good enough" territory
2. DX12
3. their shitty CPUs power the consoles, so games can't exactly be CPU-bound anyway, and developers are increasingly shoving computation over to the GPU instead, making CPU performance less important.
>>339516674
I would much rather support jews over chinks.
>>339519073
lol no. Nvidia's mid-range is going to be absolutely fucking garbage to try and push you into buying the 1070/1080. Remember the 960?
Nvidia knows what they're doing - they're trying to push people into buying more expensive cards.
>HDR Ready
What did they mean by this?
>>339502947
This. What a retard.
>>339499391
You guys joke about poos but Nvidia is run by chinks
Beware the Nvidia shills, which are all over 4chan. It's kind of fascinating, because why would a dominant company need to put so much effort into shilling? But they clearly put a ton of effort into it, it's weird as fuck.
>>339519346
it's a 4 billion dollar company vs a 150 billion dollar company. intel just lets them exist so that they don't become a monopoly.
>>339519073
960 and 950 were shit. Nvidia simply can't into midrange.
>mfw getting a 980ti for half the price while you guys obsess over your Dewritos Founders Edition GTX 1080ps
>>339519838
>why would a dominant company need to put so much effort into shilling
same reason all big companies have marketing departments you utter retard.
900 series can support HDR & 960/980 Ti full HEVC, but Nvidia will be Jews & never patch it in
>>339519863
There's going to be no compelling reason to buy Intel within the next few years unless you're looking to spend twice as much for <25% extra performance which you're probably not going to use.
Intel is going to be extremely reluctant to cut their prices to compete with AMD because it'll cut their margins.
Of course, a similar equation hasn't hurt Intel on the low-end in recent years, so...
>>339519914
>mfw Polaris 10 is a better 980 Ti for $250
>tfw you bought a 270x
Getting better performance every driver update.
>>339519973
I guess, but it's both shameless and embarrassing. I guess they've proven it works too.
>>339519838
They are dominant because they are shilling.
"Why have you not bought this product yet?", "lololol this product is better than the other product" and "Which brand should I buy?" threads drive product sales way more than legitimate advertising or honest product reviews ever could.
Universities actually have lectures about these marketing methods even though they are illegal or in a legal grey area in most countries. They simply are that effective.
>>339519838
Likely more fanboys
You need to realize people don't like to admit their company fucked up the same reason sony and nintendo fans are at each other's throats
I own a 770 and will be going amd because I just don't like nvidia's practices. From what I've seen, AMD patches and updates their drivers well enough for on par performance to nvidia or even better but that's after day 1 release. However no one ever reports on this. Frankly nvidia not giving us a tessellation slider like amd did to their customers was what pissed me off. Then you just stack the dx12 lies and the 3.5gb garbage and you get a bit disgusted.
>>339501210
>thinking youre special for starting in gen 4
><I started in gen 1 and dont meme about it like some kind of faggot
I swear the younger you are the more of a fucking faggot you are online.
Prove me wrong
protip you cant
>>339520208
>AMD
kek
>nvifags on suicide watch
>>339520283
No, there is definitely Nvidia shilling, I'm 100% certain of that and that it's not fanboyism, it goes way beyond console wars shit. It became abundantly clear by the "on-message" responses to the 960. No-one is that blinkered.
>>339502484
Oh fuck, my nostalgia drivers kicking in
>tfw you fell for the nvidia is better meme
>>339520104
> <25% extra performance which you're probably not going to use
>more perfomance
>you're not gonna need it though, amd performance is all you need
you seem like a decent person anon but you're starting to border on delusional fanboy here. if you're talking about consumer devices to just get on the internet or something then fine. i'm not sure what the tdp of intel vs amd chips are in the upcoming mid tier processors but it'll probably factor in to what people want in their laptops and shit.
>>339520669
why? I want high performance, not low cost
>>339520843
>theres Nvidia shilling
>implying there isnt AMD WON, Nvidia BTFO threads daily
literally console wars for Pcucks. If you partake in this shit please just off yourself
>>339521097
Then why buy nvidia?
>>339520958
>>339521097
Polaris is both however.
