Why don't western game developers give the slightest fuck about having memorable/good music?
>Shadow of the Colossus
>Final Fantasy
>Gunstar Heroes
>Jet Set Radio
>Metal Gear Solid
>Zelda
>Metroid
>Mario
>Gradius
If you're able to name more than three western games with soundtracks that you frequent, I will legit be backed the fuck out.
Deus Ex
Uh...Morrowind maybe?
Stalker has some cool guitar songs but I don't frequent it
Well fuck, OP, that's a legitimate challenge.
I could, but they're all Indie.
>>339455749
Ambient soundtracks like Skyrim/Morrowind and so on are questionable also. They work because they fade into the background, but try asking anyone to hum anything other than the main theme from Skyrim/Morrowind.
>Deus Ex
The main theme of 45 seconds or so was the only decent thing about the game and pretty unrepresentative of the game's tone.
>>339455936
That's pretty true: Axiom Verge, Undertale, Hotline Miami have awesome soundtracks.
Western AAA doesn't give the slightest fuck about music tho.
Crypt of the Necrodancer has a pretty good soundtrack too. Why don't AAAs invest in good music? The spend a fuckload on everything else.
MAYBE Starcraft Brood War?t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mzfnUIdzq4
Sad to see that Blizzard couldn't care less about music in their games nowadays.
Diablo
Doom (original)
Civ iv
Shadowrun (snes)
>>339455539
FEAR had a solid OST that you wouldn't play everyday but set the mood well, Crysis had some really nice music, and pretty much every RareWare game had solid music so take your pick of Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark, Conker's BFD, etc if you don't like the first two non-RareWare games i said.
The only soundtrack I've been going back to is new DOOM's, but I generally end up listening to Meshuggah instead after a song or two.
Morrowind
Oblivion
Witcher 1
Fable TLC
Brutal legend
Divine Divinity
World of Warcraft
Guild Wars
>>339456380
>Meshuggah
I know it's their thing, but do they have an album where every song doesn't just turn into a constant drone ie it's more prog-esque?
>>339455539
Op you huge faggot, you didn't include any of the Dark souls games in your list.Soul of cinders theme is so badass and fitting that I almost wept a little when I killed him
>>339456342
>Doom (original)
Shamelessly ripped off Pantera and other metal bands.
>>339456484
>Goading me for not having an encyclopedic original post
Bitch please you must be smoking rocks. Souls is bomb af.
>>339456556
And?
What music isn't inspired in some way by other music?
Banner Saga has some good soundtracks to be honest. Some Oblivion soundtracks also stuck in head too.
>>339456483
I've only listened to a select few songs, I can't do a whole album in one so I only ever listen to about three of their songs. I'd imagine it's all pretty much in the same vein though.
>>339455539
Idk but i never play asian games because i hate the fucking overloaded music.
>>339456484
Dark souls soundtracks are pretty shit. No offense.
>>339455539
do valve games count
Remember Me
Tomb Raider (not the 2 last ones, they're shit at every level)
Dragon Age (all of them)
Oblivion
Guild Wars
Mass Effect
Mirror's Edge
The Witcher 3
Assassin's Creed 2
I'm surprised you didn't include Dark Souls in your list, that's some godly music.
>>339456689
There's a difference between "using something as reference" and "shamelessly ripping off". You should pay some mind Anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H3BB2gKKeY
If that's not shameless theft then I might as well start speaking Chinese and move to Beijing.
>>339455539
Rockstar?
I really dig HEALTH's stuff for Max Payne 3, and I recently noticed the original music that kicks in during chase sequences/etc. for GTA V is actually pretty decent.
Also, I haven't played any Uncharted games, and can't remember TLoU, but whoever Naughty Dog got for Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter (the first one, haven't played 2/3 yet) made chill as fuck music. I think Crash 2 was the high point.
Do japs follow the trend of "let's shove generic orchestrated music into everything"
>>339456886
It's alright, you're entitled to your opinion.
>>339455539
Dawn of War, Empire Earth, Deus Ex, any Elder Scrolls Game, Bastion, Transistor, Stronghold, Dragon Age Origins, Diablo series, Warcraft series (and WoW), Age of Empires 3, Doom....I can keep going
You on the other hand already listed every decent Japanese series ever made.
Killing Floor 2
Killing Floor
Hotline Miami
>>339457112
but anon Zelda is shit
>>339457189
>Saying Zelda is shit in public
Man you better use your time to go into hiding before a lynch mob shows up with your noose.
Doom
Doom II
Diablo
Diablo 2
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot 2
Crash Bandicoot 3
Crash Team Racing
Crash Twinsanity
Check mate
>>339455539OH LAZARE LAZARE
TU KA NI SA KAZALI
Other than that
Cloudbuilt
Necrodancer
Enter the Gungeon
XCOM 2
Shovel Knight
Europa Universalis (Guns Drums and Steel)
AC4: Black Flag
Brutal Legend
Creeper World 3
Frozen Synapse
Hotline Miami
Space Pirate Trainer
Serious Sam (all of them)
D44m
Super Meat Boy
Binding of Isaac (original, new one is meh)
Gothic 1,2,3
Lot of it is indie and probably forgot some but that covers it for me.
>>339457493
>OH LAZARE LAZARE
>TU KA NI SA KAZALI
What?
bioshock
fallout 3
Uncharted has some pretty great/memorable tracks. Other than that I'm actually at a loss.
>>339457634
and the wolf among us
>>339457615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLqktDBIew8
>>339455539
>Japan
>One third the population of the USA
>Regularly produces art with higher craftsmanship in every area
Are other countries even trying?
Spyro tho
>>339455539
>>Shadow of the Colossus
>>Final Fantasy
>>Gunstar Heroes
>>Jet Set Radio
>>Metal Gear Solid
>>Zelda
>>Metroid
>>Mario
>>Gradius
too bad all those games are objectively shit
>>339457742
Fun fact: that song is actually based on a traditional wedding song.
>>339457032
>shamelessly ripping off
lol the songs are completely different, even in this video.
>>339457848
>too bad all those games are objectively shit
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
Name ANYTHING you like if you're going to talk that sort of mess.
>>339457848
t. overshit player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4I23yxiJq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POthDo-HvUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1s1FGzDyfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HopI2L0kl8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QoaTZYubv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWv8_RJO1Ys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaiJKLROq5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGDAb6gMqOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVfh1iur_wk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIyIdacQkZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl3lmFYYBq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgO2122rm8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypNgvc6c6Cc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bW75OwVXZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IitCQCaKi3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXuP0hRJMm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg-yC0xcI9s
but muh hans zimmer, muh epicness
>>339455539
Bungie made decent music. Before Destiny, anyway.
>>339458143
all of them are pretty crap tobeho family. exception being MP3 and mass effect
>>339458228
why are they crap exactly?
LISA + The Joyful's soundtrack is the only video game OST i have downloaded
>>339458143
But all of this combined barely equal a Japanese soundtrack Anon-senpai.
>western devs
>>339458268
forgettable, interchangeable stuff
>>339458171
>Before Destiny
>Destiny was Bungie's best OST
It's like you're trying to bait or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B98pmpb1_Tc
>>339458383
You put Sakurai on the left, praising him
You put Carmack in the right, critizing him.
It's just stupid.
>>339458423
post some memorable jap stuff then
Donkey Kong Country SNES trilogy
>>339458383
>Eastern devs
>Always polite/professional
Tomonobu Itagaki is the Japanese John Romero
>>339458271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg6SCZjI48U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUKQwoBNbSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkwXKL0F9Fg
>>339458383
>kojima
>gameplay
No one posted the Arcanum soundtrack, what a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxo28lYtHBc&index=6&list=PL747E3997A25A9FF6
>>339458286
t. weeb
>>339455539
Western soundtracks that I frequent:
Destruction Derby 2
EVE Online
Morrowind
Nox
The Halo games have probably my favorite video game soundtracks ever. Listen to the music in this cutscene, or these songs from the soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVzKVuCmakY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjKWKN6jaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CayOFzuMvsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33LGMafuJx8
Marty's stuff is so distinct and wonderful. His firing is really indicative of how awful Bungie has become.
Marty O'Donnell
>>339458554
Get him boozed-up and surround him with enough breasts and he's chill as all fuck.
>>339458521
>TOOK THIS LONG INTO THE THREAD TO MENTION DAVID WISE/RAREWARE
you guys are fucking bad
>>339458736
>EVE Online
WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T THIS GET MENTIONED MORE?
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/8055882
SERIOUSLY
>>339455539
Wew lad
https://youtu.be/DKdRDi72Ov8
https://youtu.be/__gLIyeQYDU
https://youtu.be/kgcq_ZtqbO0
https://youtu.be/yVm_ljDSdwA
>>339459015
>more uninspired orchestral crap
>>339456757
>Can't do a whole album in one
That's my problem with them, i appreciate them on a technical level, but just can't actually enjoy listening to them at all.
>>339455539
halo
ass creed 2
any fallout
>>339459082
Reeeeeeeeee, my subjective opinion is right and fuck everybody else.
>>339458604
>look mom i can meme too xD
>>339458143
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIyIdacQkZ0
risk of rain, luftrausers, undertale
>>339455539
>Nuclear Throne
>Undertale
>Hotline Miami
call the cops, I don't give a fuck.
>>339455938
>try asking anyone to hum anything other than the main theme from Skyrim/Morrowind.
The Road Most Travelled, Peaceful Waters and Silt Sunrise
>>339458383
>gaben is a dev
>phil fish is comparable to AAA devs
>notch is a AAA dev
>didn't include peter molyneuex
are you even trying with this b8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0YbD1AIeE
>>339455539
https://youtu.be/U1Cfteu1Tkw
https://youtu.be/IlrIRahS81A
https://youtu.be/hHaHI5C0zqU
https://youtu.be/vBszCIKYumk
https://youtu.be/7oy2t_Ru3rQ
Are you happy now?
Most of the stuff being posted on here is absolute shit. Here are some good ones OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1QAKVfRFas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=915k0mMK-Fo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70DLsXjGE4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ghsIQhMlY
>>339458521
>>339458751
These.
>>339460132
Neo /v/ is impressed by second rate hollywood soundtracks.
>>339457803
Please outside of video games Japanese art has stagnated hard.
>>339460132
Western devs went to compete shit after the 16 bit era.
>>339455539
Pack it up boys, it's just another weeb sperging out.
>>339455539
>Why don't western game developers give the slightest fuck about having memorable/good music?
because it's cheaper to use shitty music.
>Implying any devs gives a shit about good soundtracks since gen 6
Japanese games are now filled with garbage J-pop or generic orchestra music.specially anime
Western games are filled with dubstep, shitty power rock bands.
>>339455938
Are you kidding? The Deus Ex main theme is probably one of the weaker tracks and the soundtrack is like 2 hours of nonstop good shit. If you actually think that Gunstar Heroes has a better soundtrack than I have no idea what to say to you.
I like proper use of background music in games, stuff that isn't meant to be focused on but makes what IS supposed to be focused on that much better
Banner saga 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypNkP4qpiFw
Oblivion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d8yCWF4cBY
Witcher 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NknjE2SBPxw
>>339460132
>Mega Turrican
FUCKING
YES
>>339455539
Rayman.
Spyro the Dragon has a great and well suited soundtrack.
Dragonball Z legacy of Goku/Buu's fury adapts the American soundtrack interestingly.
Elite Beat Agents kicksass!
>>339461227
>If you actually think that Gunstar Heroes has a better-
BITCH PLEASE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi_Mo_BWo04
>>339456016
Don't forget about Bastion and Transistor. Fucking amazing soundtracks.
>>339455539
The Last of Us had a fucking God-tier soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL9QECoBob0
>>339455938
>The main theme of 45 seconds or so was the only decent thing about the game
U wot m8?
>>339461772
Cool, it isn't even a track from the actual soundtrack, and is instead a shitty metal cover. You showed me. By the way, it sounds generic and repetitive.
>>339461920
>Too damn lazy to click on the original which is on the fucking Youtube sidebar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIf_glWvPHQ
Sheesh, do have orangutans in your asshole or something?
That track BTFOs the Deus Ex soundtrack and I'm a DX fanboi.
Oh and there's more than one song on Gunstar btw. Enjoy the fucking awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ6E1esxAHo
New Wolfenstein and DOOM both had fucking amazing OST's
Mick Gordon knows his shit.
>>339457803
>Italy
>>339455539
Halo.
Deus Ex.
The Elder Scrolls.
Red Dead Redemption.
Portal.
Metal Gear Rising.
Those are literally the only ones though.
>>339462180
I beat this game multiple times and on expert and still cannot remember a single track without having it shown to me. This shit is uninspired at best.
Remember absolute ear-sores like this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAS9lWyUm_Q
How about this fucking garbage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0sddG3eS3Y
Goddamn, get some standards man. Could you have at least listed something like Castlevania Bloodlines instead if you were going for a genesis soundtrack? Or fuck, even Shinobi 3 with its cliche sounding traditional Japanese soundtrack beats Gunstar Heroes.
>>339462386
>Metal Gear Rising.
Anon platinum is from japan
Matt Uelman did some pretty neat shit. Aside from the obvious Tristram theme (and the extended version later), he is pretty good about making drumming interesting.
>>339462498
Isn't the guy who made that OST western though? I always thought it was pretty poorly mixed.
>>339462498
yeah but the OST is western so I count it
>>339462402
Those tracks are legit good and had palpable tension for the boss fights they were intended for. They're actually outstanding.
Way more textured, layered, intricate, and crafted than anything the DX soundtrack had. You honestly should take a piano class or watch a DAW tutorial sometime. You seem like a fine Anon, but you're just plain wrong here and someday you'll come into your own.
I'm positive that the DX composers would revere the Gunstar composers in a league above themselves. There's absolutely no parity between the soundtracks of those two games.
>>339462336
A lot of the DOOM music is basically lifted midi versions of rock, metal, and grunge tracks.
>>339455539
>more than three western games with soundtracks that you frequent
I'm not autistic enough for this shit, but out the top of my head
>C&C Red Alert trilogy
>CoD MW trilogy
>Hotline Miami
have better soundtracks than anything you listed.
>>339462402
who the fuck cares you autist
>it's a "/v/ thinks they know shit about music" episode
>people say Japan makes better OSTs than western
>they're forgetting about Dragonball Z and the genius that is Bruce Faulconer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flJbl2Ebzkc
>>339462643
They are absolutely ear sores and I can guarantee you I know more about music than you. Deus Ex OST is infinitely better and also has plenty of layering and texture, I am sorry to inform you. By the way, I do know my way around a DAW.
>ctrl-f unreal tournament
>0 hits
alexander brandon was the real deal you fuckers
>>339455539
Sins of the Solar EmpireMemetale had a good OST too
Halo 2s soundtrack is burned into my head forever
>>339455539
oblivion had great music
>>339457032
>comparing At Doom's Gate to No Remorse
It's so obviously Master of Puppets. How do you fuck up that badly?
>>339462763
>They are absolutely ear sores
I have no idea what to say for you. Some people just can't be saved.
In time you'll come around Anon. You'll do alright.
>>339455539
To answer your question seriously. Western AAA developers typically go for ambient music. Ambient music often slides into the background and is relatively low key, so the music doesn't stand out or sounds as memorable. Japanese developers typically go for music that stands out. There are obviously exceptions though (like DOOM).
Hotline Miami
Hotline Miami 2
Spyro the dragon
>>339462763
>Deus Ex OST is infinitely better and also has plenty of layering and texture
Not even him, but the Deus Ex OST has none of those. It has its melodic front, maybe some synths thrown in for ambience and that's about it. The synths even sound pretty bad by current standards. It's as straight forward as it gets.
I could name you a lot more than 3 games but they'd all be composed by Jeremy Soule (Total Annihilation, Guild Wars series, TES series or Grant Kirkhope (Rare games) so I guess your point still stands.
World of Warcraft has one of the finest and most appropriate soundtracks of any videogame ever, however.
> he didn't listen to awesome tunes while playing San Andreas
It's not only about orchestral soundtrack, yo
>>339455539
Are you fucking kidding me, OP?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAFA884C3B5DC349D
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDE0DBBFAA8E2F771
Stop being such a faggot, goddamnit.
>>339455539
There're plenty of western games with good music.
>>339462695
>Implying those three were better than Shadow of the Colossus
>>339455539
Heroes Of Might And Magic motherfucker.
>>339463276
It's not bad, but it's used horribly. It's always just kind of there, even during joss battles
>>339463069
Kek, I can't believe you are crazy enough to link that empty and simple metal cover and subsequently try to use the argument that the OST is crazy complicated while ad homineming me on music theory and production.
>>339463186
And the Genesis soundchip is a couple of grimy-sounding simple wave channels. What is your point? There is plenty of subtlety and variety in the Deus Ex soundtrack, and even if the synths don't sound particularly high quality they were well-used. Gunstar Heroes on the other hands is definitely not a great example of working with what you have. If you want that then go look at something like Thunder Force IV, iuno.
>>339463347
Thanks for contributing! Maybe name one! :^)
>>339463562
>There is plenty of subtlety and variety in the Deus Ex soundtrack
No.
For the record: The Gunstar Heroes score blows. I actually prefer the Deus Ex one. It's just that I can't stand people throwing around terms they clearly don't know the meaning of.
Love, /mu/.
>>339463562
>OST is crazy complicated
I just said it's clear that more detail and craft was put into Gunstar for better effect.
>while ad homineming me on music theory and production.
It needed to be done. Sometimes you need to put on spurs to get the horse to move.
You'll come around Anon-senpai.
>>339463741
Wow, because /mu/ is known for great taste. Go listen to Grimes and Neutral Milk Hotel, you shitter.
>>339455539
Im sure some of these have been mentioned but here goes
Wolfenstein: The New Order
Doom (1993)
Killer Instinct
Shovel Knight (though I think a track or two was done by someone from Japan)
Dragon Age
Mirror's edge
Black Flag cause sea shanties nigga
Bastion
Uncharted (mainly that main theme only but still its a doozy)
Diablo
I could keep going but its 4am, so fuck you I'm going to bed
>>339455938
>Deus Ex
>The main theme of 45 seconds or so was the only decent thing about the game and pretty unrepresentative of the game's tone.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDDu2B0qols
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PCeKu4zxh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX0hU7jQ5O4
>>339455539
>hotline miami
>WoW
>mass effect
>undertale
there´s a huge team usually working on AAA´s and if you ever saw behind the scenes vids they put a lot of manpower in order to get the soundtrack right
>>339463861
Your condescending tone isn't making you look as good as you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gYqUeG_gLg
Let your ears enjoy this, and then off yourself afterwards, weebscum.
>>339463897
>point out you don't know what you're talking about
>YOUR TASTE IS SHIT
I listen to neither, by the way. Keep grasping, though.
>>339463741
>The Gunstar Heroes score blows
>Love, /mu/.
That's nice, good to know we have self-identified posters that are into Godspeed You! Black Emperor as means of getting public validation instead of actually eliciting any musical knowhow.
Sincerely yours dipshit, /fuckoff/.
>>339462180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrJQw9u4U_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgIE6Pb_MFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBzDv24IOYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_hJEtqUlj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHQZNNajxOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE7ykfiy5TI
Fuck you you're making me real mad here friendo
>>339463990
Sometimes people need some tough love Anon. Not everyone is an internet posting all-star keyboard warrior.
>>339464121
You are the one grasping. Complaining about my use of the terms subtlety and variety?
>people throwing around terms they clearly don't know the meaning of
Is that so? I am glad your grasp on the English language is so superior. Please enlighten me with your amazing music taste. I am glad that you know all about my musical interests now that you know I prefer Deus Ex to Gunstar Heroes. The best part is that you came in and agreed with me too, so you literally wedged yourself into this conversation just because I used those 2 common English words.
>>339455539
Almost every game in the Halo series.
I'll count that as one though, since you're a faggot.
Bastion. Probably my favorite vidya soundtrack of all time.
Undermeme. Not the best but certainly pretty good.
Hotline Miami 1+2.
Elder Scrolls, especially Oblivion.
Mirror's Edge
Mass Effect
I'll admit that japanese games generally have better music than western games but I can definitely name three games.
>Oblivion
Say what you want about the game itself but the music was fantastic.
>Witcher 3
Very good music. Witcher 2's music wasn't bad either.
>Hotline Miami
The music matched the game perfectly. It got the blood pumping and put you in the zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DICXzT-PKEE
Indie games is where all the good music is at.
>>339464123
Why are you assuming people only pretend to like you don't understand something for public validation? The vast majority of people don't even know GY!BE, so there goes your theory.
And why are you so upset people don't dig your favorite Japanese chiptunes? Rethink your life choices if that's the kind of stuff that riles you up.
>>339464435
I think probably I like the idea behind Hotline Miami's soundtrack more than the actual music unfortunately. If you go back and listen to the soundtrack you will probably find that the tracks aren't as exciting or memorable as you thought and some of them have very loud production in a bad way.
>>339464667
I disagree. Maybe a couple songs. But then again I grew up listening to shitty punk rock so I don't notice production value all that much. Especially with EDM unless it strays into dubstep territory.
#1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh38eZtcdz8
#2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-84hnlrbys
#3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfEwX4pWiEo
>>339458848
So is western just anything not asian at this point. I have no idea what this term means anymore
Western games had good to great music up to around 2000, maybe couple years past that. Then shit happened.
These days you're hard pressed to find a western ost with character, it's all the same shit.
>muh indie
It's not that good dude.
>>339455539
>It's a "weeaboo tries to makes his shitty waifu simulators look good" episode
>>339464285
>You are the one grasping. Complaining about my use of the terms subtlety and variety?
No, "layering" and "texture". Baka.
>Please enlighten me with your amazing music taste.
What does taste have to do with anything? I merely advised you to stop using words you don't know the meaning of in an attempt to look smart. Really, nothing more. I didn't slam your taste or even the Deus Ex score, and yet here you are ranting off about taste and all that. You are so insecure, it hurts.
>>339458848
>M-M-Muh childhood soundtracks
>>339455539
The Binding of Isaac's soundtrack was fucking amazing.
>>339464852
That's pretty much what it always meant unless you were talking about just Europe.
>>339455539
Dragon Age: Origins. That's all I got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWFEVbfCcOY
Because western vidya music didn't get good till about 1997-98.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X1gC3BLq2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlSbPlKQ_dc
>soundtracks that you frequent
>Listening to video game music
You're subhuman bro.
>>339455539
Doom
Unreal
Deus Ex
DKC
Wow, that was hard OP.
>>339465206
Why? Because women will never like them?
Opinion discarded. Will continue to listen to classical music tier vidya - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpPLGtG2Nk8
don't worry anon I'll make sure the game I'm making will have a cool soundtrack!
>>339465416
>Doom
Metal ripoffs
>Unreal
Garbage
>Deus Ex
Decent
>DKC
Produced under Japanese supervision
Fuck with me bro.
>>339464782
Go listen to Roller Mobster or Miami Disco. I think a lot of people would say those were 2 of the most impactful tracks in their respective games. They are produced in a way that is very loud (especially all the distortion and the drums) and it doesn't really allow you to hear the other parts of the track well without hurting your ears. I like the idea of making great sounding synths with a nod to the late 70s and 80s and a modern production twist all in a fast-paced exciting track, but I don't think the genre is quite there yet.
>>339464927
Again, those are both common words in the English language. I will admit I misused the word texture, though. What I really meant is more like the tracks being memorable by being topological. In other words, there is a variety to the composition - for instance, each track has 4-5 very different parts to it as the game uses the dynamic soundtrack system, and from area to area they are also distinguishable enough to be memorable to me. I wasn't talking about a robustness or thickness to the instruments themselves.
By layering I simply meant that I greatly prefer the use of the instruments to mesh together as a whole in Deus Ex compared to Gunstar, again, it is a common word. Of course the soundtrack is not some crazy complicated math rock with counterpoints while there's off-the-wall crazy jazzy syncopated drumming, sure, but you don't need that to use terms like layering.
>>339462749
>Bruce Faulconer.
>Genius.
Pick one.
>>339455539
Uncharted 2, killzone 2 and littlebigplanet 2
Unreal
Deus Ex
NeoTokyo
Beyond Good & Evil
LISAUndertale
>>339465443
You talked big about your music.
You did not disappoint.
Bomb-ass track Anon.
Goat coming through
>https://youtu.be/i1_KZWMtkPc
>>339465874
Uncharted 4 soundtrack was kinda lame, wasn't it? Previous games had some real good shit going on.
>>339465557
>Metal ripoffs
So what
>Garbage
Incorrect
>Decent
You're god damn right it is
>Produced under Japanese supervision
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God of War at least tried, I think. I mean, I can remember some tracks from those games.
I am sure it was already mentioned.
>>339466028
I really liked the blatant aping of the pirates of the caribbean soundtrack in some of the action scenes but most of the time it was pretty dull. Only moment of music I really remember is after you scale the elevator with Elena and the piano plays.
Not having nate's theme on the main menu was shit as well.
Dead Space had amazing music.
I won't even waste my time with a game anymore unless it was made in Japan.
Western games are just forgettable garbage far, far too often.
>>339455539
Risk of rain
Lords of shadow 2 (only thing it has)
those are off the top of my head, and to be fair i dont buy many western games and the ones i have use licensed music
![TF2_Group[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iAc3AN4.jpg "TF2_Group[1].jpg")
Holy shit nobody yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA9XFzxTTOQ
>>339466236
Games in general are forgettable garbage more often than not nowadays, especially Japanese games
>>339466295
Good call on Risk of Rain.
>>339455539
>If you're able to name more than three western games with soundtracks that you frequent, I will legit be backed the fuck out.
Bastion
The Void
Homeworld
The Witcher 1 and 3 (the third one has some of the best songs I've seen in an RPG yet)
Hotline Miami
Diablo
Heroes of Might and Magic 2
>>339455539
Shovel Knight
Team Fortress 2
DOOM
Wolfenstein
Mighty Switch Force
Banjo-Kazooie
Viva Pinata
Conker's BFD
Bionic Commando Rearmed
Crash Bandicoot
Jak and Daxter
Diddy Kong Racing
Scott Pilgrim vs the World: The Game
Runbow
Kill yourself OP
>>339466554
>Crash Bandicoot
Forgot about Crash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thr1xb9bv8g = GOAT
>>339455539
David Bergauad's Ratchet & Clank entries
Christophe Heral's & Billy Martin's Rayman entries
Frank Klepacki's Command & Conquer work
Tim Follin's & Goeff Follin's work, Plok and Silver Surfer especially
Jake Kaufman's Shantae & Mighty series work
Danny Baranowsky's original Super Meat Boy music
I could go on. There's probably more Japanese composers I follow than Western, but these are examples of guys who do it right.
It's crazy how even smaller niche industries like eroge/VN tend to have good composers.
https://youtu.be/X2D5QhxcYls
That's a dumb comparison. You remember Japanese soundtracks because they typically go for melodic and catchy OSTs that are easy to remember, while Western games typically go for atmosphere and tone-setting in their music (and even then, there are countless exceptions).
>>339466654
Cool western music man
A lot of people seem to like Super Meat Boy but it never really wowed me. Bastion was mentioned in this thread multiple times. It is high quality but I find the composition itself to be boring.
I found that I liked several Binding of Isaac's tracks. The remake didn't do it for me though. It sounds more professional but it lacks the raw energy and heart.
I thought Shovel Knight's was pretty impressive, especially considering that the guy made a version of it that actually works on an NES (though probably VRC6 or something advanced like that).
>>339466624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khC_TU6ogsY
>only 3 mentions of Spyro
God dammit I've got to add a 4th
Great soundtrack by a great musician.
>>339465634
I pick genius.
Metroid fucking prime.
Otherwise I agree that western developers hate video games.
>not a single person in this thread has been fully immersed in Fallout 1 or 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsdRP7nyWMY
>>339466386
Mah nigga TF2 always had good music considering you never heard any of it in game while playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ENmljQAYXI
>MFW hearing these FUCKIN DRUMS for the first time Ive never been so hyped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2QpThyVL8s
and the MvM Theme is extemely good as well.
>>339455539
>talking about good music
>Zelda
>>339466654
Eroge is a pretty amazing industry. The ROI is pretty high because it's porn so they can take a lot of creative risks.
The west would probably be creative if they bothered to galvanize porn in the same way Japan has, but again, it's not like they're even trying.
Ori and the Blind Forest by Gareth Coker
Destiny/Halo by Marty O'Donnell/Michael Salvatori
Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim by Jeremy Soule
Assassin's Creed by Jesper Kyd/Lorne Balfe
Just off the top of my head, OP, you huge weeaboo faggot
>>339466626
>David Bergauad's Ratchet & Clank entries
Fuck Michael Bross. Fuck him so hard with his generic orchestral crap and his obvious petty jealousy of Bergeaud's talent (NOPE NO OLD MUSIC IN HERE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT).
Fuck everyone in Insomniac at the moment for their complete and utter contempt towards making a polished game.
Divine Divinity's OST is pretty neat. It sadly sounds a bit cheesy and cheap at first glance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxv32XPclG0
>Why don't western game developers give the slightest fuck about having memorable/good music?
nigga what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg0Tmydj29M
>>339467001
To add on to what this good anon said, what about World of Warcraft OP? Some of the best music of all time there, through out all expansions
>>339467096
Drop me some tracks, good Anon.
Starcraft
Crash Bandicoot (1)
Bastion
>>339467086
Battlefield has really fallen out of my favor nowadays, but remember this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx86OaoGyQY
>>339466861
the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NQx4WRRg0
>ctrl+f "crash bandicoot
>8 entries
My fucking niggas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqtLvuVPpTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpRuQjRdWM
Sorry for shit quality boys, but it was this or the full soundtrack.
>>339467230
well, if anything EA can't do wrong, it's their audio department
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPQXvjAdnX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-uWmgOm9g
>>339455539
Westerners can't into OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDYPFfnm3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUs8FEsDUZ4
Implying the Japanese could make something great like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW98Z9W1X5I
>>339455539
Journey
StarCraft/Brood War
Ori and the Blind Forest
>>339466813
You picked wisely. Now you won't have that shit sandwich Faulconer tied around your neck.
>>339455539
Your problem is that you still see the world as east and west.
I couldn't find the main theme, but wathever
https://youtu.be/Vr8wOT28vHI
>>339467553
Hey, this is pretty cool.
This music plays while you play hte game?
>>339456484
>Dark Souls
>western dev
Pick one
Why aren't you guys learning a DAW like a true patrician instead of dreaming of entering an oversaturated market of 'video game designers'?
>>339468227
I'm choosing a career that has nothing to do with video gamesProsecuting attorney is my dream job and I'm working towards that
>>339457803
>Regularly produces art with higher craftsmanship in every area
I bet you're talking only about anime, video games and manga
>>339468227
like for music?
At least we had Grant Kirkhope composing in the west, giving us some great OSTs in Banjo Kazooie, James Bond and Perfect Dark
>>339468334
If you're a woman and/or resemble Franziska Von Karma, can I arrange a marriage with you?
>>339468354
Is video game music an oversaturated market?
FEZ has a great soundtrack and I want to say that company is based in US?
>>339468426
Not in the slightest.
Being a solid video game music maker is like being a male stripper at a female retirement home.
>>339468426
I was just asking because I didn't know what "DAW" stood for and google is giving me digital audio workstation. Just checking.
>>339468426
Probably. Instrumental music (especially Chiptunes and video game inspired music) are prime targets for new musicians. Older video games only used a few simple synths to make everything. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la3coK5pq5w as an example.
>>339455539
Because I'm here to play a game and not listen to music fucktard.
>>339468452
Polytron is famously Canadian, my friend.
Not even the USA would be responsible for a trainwreck of that magnitude. The US is crap, but we're not THAT crap.
>>339455749
>deus ex
You should lump in HR with that too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxcYSEcH8Fk
>>339468571
Post of the thread goes to this man.
Wish your trophy was a DDOS.
>>339468516
Is this true? Don't be fiddling me lad.
![transport_tycoon_classic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GrFT0ah.jpg "transport_tycoon_classic[1].jpg")
You stupid motherfuckers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTi6LG8aeK8
>>339456016
>Western AAA doesn't give the slightest fuck about music
I thought tw3 had a good ost.
>>339468652
If you're good at it, it's true.
If you're not, it's not.
You're not exactly signing up to be a lawyer or a doctor, but compared to other ways to make a living as a musician, it's easily one of the most sustainable.
>>339467972
Yes, song on the first stage IIRC.
There is more like it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ToN2qjIkk
>>339468967
Holy shit, why I didn't discover this game before?
Gonna play it ASAP, thank you!
>>339468836
I have been thinking about trying it to sustain my personal music making, but don't really know where to start. I guess make a soundcloud and upload 'video gamey' music there?
>>339468540
I have no interest in chiptunes, really. The video game soundtracks I love the most are the moody ones from the mid-late 90s like Silent Hill/Resident Evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPglVVYl5Lc
I should listen to some contemporary soundtracks to see what's happening at the moment I think.
>>339456886
I likeBloodborne's OST
Specially the DLC
>>339455539
Battlefield 3
Planescape Torment
Fallout 2
Quake
Quake 2
Deus Ex
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Witcher 3
System Shock 2
>>339469272
Find a struggling indie dev on twitter who plans to put something on Greenlight.
There's a bunch, I can't namedrop any unfortunately. You can find some on Reddit as well.
If you haven't had training in traditional music (piano, music theory) I highly recommend it. Just focus on making music regularly and having a good time making music even if it's not precisely what you want.
Knowing a DAW is great, but fundamentals are what's going to help you make a living. It's the same thing with a person who "knows photoshop really well" but has poor traditional drawing skills.
>>339469457
Thanks for the tips, very helpful.
I have some music training and have been using a DAW for a few years now, making both electronic and 'band' recordings.
It's just a case of I've got to the point where I need to earn money.
>>339469934
Hold down a job while you send your work everywhere.
The expression "it's okay, I'll just starve, that'll motivate me" has never produced good results.
Get your priorities straight, pay your dues with a regular job while you cut your teeth with game music.
I believe in you Anon, but there are no shortcuts.
>>339455539
You mean western origin or western dev team?
If the latter, I've got Metroid Prime and Skyrim, off the top of my head, more if you count more than one entry in a series. I am under the impression that Duke Nukem had some pretty cool music. Portal 2 has some neat music. Shovel Knight and Shantae both have great scores. Yeah, I guess I can name three, but fuck if I didn't take me several minutes of thinking. You have a valid point, OP. Just not as valid as you thought.
>>339470295
Don't worry, I have a job. It's not very good but I can live off it and it allows a reasonable amount of time to pursue other things
Thanks for the encouragement. May I ask how you are knowledgeable on the subject?
>>339456350
FUCK. How could I forget Banjo?
>>339470418
Metroid Prime's music was made by a Japanese person.
In Japan.
>>339455539
Rockstar, but that's cheating
BUT they have Bully OST
>>339470440
I have a roommate who does music for indie and mobile games.
I've seen him through multiple intervals of unemployment, couch surfing, and countless aimless talks on unachievable goals.
I'm no expert, but I think I know enough to point you somewhere where you'll become one.
>>339470708
Eh. Either way I can still name three. Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, Shantae, Shovel Knight, Skyrim, Spyro, Halo, etc.
What are some good modern OSTs? Things that you like that haven't reached 'classic' status yet.
Earthworm Jim
Donkey Kong Country 1 & 2
Plok
And uhh.... Erm.
Yeah there really aren't many western composers that give a fuck.
The music dudes over at Paradox are pretty great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_oNVzSdus
>>339471141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRyR27l7vks
There's probably most people that know that soundtrack than people that actually played the game but still I feel it's quite underrated.
The Sims
Morrowind
Fallout 1 and 2
Doom
Pretty much anything by Grant Kirkhope
>>339456962
b-but Anon..I like the OST of the new TR games..
