3000 per match (10min match)
22000 required for level
22000/3000 = 7.3
7.3 x 10min = 73min Of just gameplay, This doesn't include loading screens, Wait times or 30 second startup time for each match.
all in all we are looking at 88minutes to get a single box, Or an hour and a half.
Per box that doesn't guarantee anything, Im my case i'm level 30 with only 2 legendary skins and no purple skins(and 4 dupes of sprays).
Since there is no progression in the game it seems achievements are the only thing being an incentive besides the slow rate of boxes.
Does this really work for you guys? Approx 1 legendary skin every 14 boxes = 14levelsx73min=1022min/60=17hours for a single legendary skin.
This is called incentive? I know my results are bottom of the barrel but 17 hours is an insane amount of time for a single legendary costume that i have no choice in choosing.
Atleast in CoD or BF you have weapon skins and attachments to work towards along with other nonsense, Even TF2 has crates.
So they are banking on the fact that the gameplay is so super good it keeps the user engaged enough to ignore everything else, Which while the game is decent is nowhere near that good.
Rng is rng yeah, But that doesn't change the fact that someone in my situation has almost nothing to keep me playing.
My math might be off but it sure as hell seems to be pretty jewish, How long till most of the community feels the same and jumps ship? Or will they?
>>339451895
If you are playing a FPS game to get skins or unlocks....you are doing it wrong. Play it because you enjoy the gameplay - if you don't enjoy the gameplay then you are just wasting your time (like I am doing right now by typing this).
They obviously want you to pay real money to buy the grates.
You stop getting boxes at max level also.
So once you hit max level you are obligated to purchase any skin you have not unboxed with real money.
Unless competitive introduces more frequent box drops or a way to get ingame money you will be stuck spending real money eventually.
Which is fucking retarded, why is there no way to earn money outside of lootboxes?
I know I played 20 hours of it already. So far that's a dollar for every two hours. Been having fun practicing and learning each character.
>>339452489
>You stop getting boxes at max level also.
Not true. When you get to level 100, you can respec and go to level 1, where it actually becomes way easier to get boxes for the first 20 levels.
So far the maximum level you can get even counting all the prestige is, I believe, 1800 or something silly like that, but even when you get to that level you can keep getting boxes.
Also, just a reminder that everything in the boxes is irrelevant bullshit.
>>339452489
There is no max level, at 100 you just roll back to 1 and then you get a fancy "prestige" marking on your portrait.
>>339451895
It's sad, that they are giving their customers the middle finger and added a cash shop.
Now the drop rate is fucked, thanks Blizzard.
>People think you need a progression system to play an online shooter
I hate what CoD has done to this genre.
>>339452759
>you can respec and go to level 1,
I meant prestige, not respec. Whatever.
>>339453073
Hold up, Progression isn't a bad thing as it allow you to focus on something Besides the gameplay.
Right now all we can focus on is the same damn maps with the same damn modes.
Doesn't that get boring? Having almost no goals and just mindlessly playing the game?
Seeing all the costumes you would like and knowing you'll only get them once your sick of said character or done with the game?
The gameplay isn't even that great, It's solid but not mind blowing.
>caring about playing dress-up
>>339451895
Who fucking cares about cosmetics. If they were locking actual gameplay mechanics behind F2P bullshit I might be upset but they aren't.
Not yet, at least.
>>339453416
>not wanting a dwarf to fap to your big butt
go play some gay mlp fan club like tf2
>>339453347
>When I play video games, I need something other than gameplay
Holy fuck, I bought the Orange Box for the Xbox 360 and probably clocked 200 hours in TF2 alone before later getting it for the PC, and this was still before hats and shit.
Whatever happened to playing a game because you fucking enjoy playing the game?
>>339451895
>3000 per match
lol bad
>Level 28 or 29
>Four Legendaries
>About 10 Epics
>Have only had a few dupes
Lel kill yourself op
>>339453681
It's an easy way to get people attached to your mediocre/shit game
>>339453701
>Random drops
>One person ends up getting better drops than others
>Suggests other people should off themselves for...whatever reason?
>>339451895
Anyone not retarded knows the crates are skewed in a way that the only real way to get them is by buying them, but it's cosmetic so for some reason it's acceptable.
And no, if I wantt a crate I just buy them. Crates cannot be an incentive to level up because I already can buy them without leveling. Leveling should give unique rewards.
>>339453239
same shit we all understood, except the spastics.... actually no one understood you well done for reiterating
>>339451895
>the replayability comes from cosmetics because the maps are unimaginative series of chokepoints and each hero is so shallow to play
I managed to get the Valkyrie skin for mercy. Too bad I suck at mercy. Lucio 4 eva.
>>339453347
I've put hundreds of hours into quake, battlefield, and team fortress. I never wanted progression because the games were actually fun. My goals were simply getting better at the game, or learning how to be effective at a different class.
I honestly don't understand why people want grinding in their games. Is it because you know you don't enjoy them enough to keep playing unless its there?
>>339451895
Level 46 here with no Legendary or epic skins. I've bought 1 250 skin with the occasional gold drop.
Does anyone else have worse luck?
>>339451895
>play game until 30
>have enough dosh to buy all the shit you want for main
>no need for boxes
Try playing the game first OP
>>339453824
it's not that he got better drops
it's that the OP is entitled as hell
>>339451895
>Since there is no progression in the game it seems achievements are the only thing being an incentive besides the slow rate of boxes.
Blizzard is great at making a cash shop F2P game and making mad dosh off it while not really doing anything
They are terrible at making incentives because they are jews and must monetize EVERYTHING, so nothing good can actually be free so there isn't really ever an incentive. Hearthstone is just as bad if not worse, the only incentive to play is e-dick bragging rights and an ugly card back, oh, and some shit tier rewards once a month. Creating an incentive would required blizz to not monetize it and leave something in game that players can earn that's cool and not obtainable any other way. And blizz is simply too greedy.
>>339453976
>having a main
Let's just hope that you are a troll.
>>339453814
>Already make a $40-80 investment, depending on the game
>That's not enough to make people attached to it
>Being able to play dress-up, however, will
Is this why I hear 100% of Dragon's Dogma's gameplay is the character creator?
>>339454174
At this point I am convinced anyone triggered by main posts are either retarded or baiting.
>>339453962
i have no idea how you are this unlucky, level 40 found 2 legendary and 3-4 epic skins
that being said i have legendary for every classs i play cos ive bought like 60
i guess that means im roughly level 100 with 9 legendary skins or so, a lot of gold from dupes but
>>339453976
>Having one main in a game with multiple heroes and fighting styles
You should have at least three mains, especially when the game is designed around switching it up on the fly to counter the opposing team's position.
>>339454252
Do you even know which game we're discussing itt?
>>339452759
>>339452790
Ok for some reason people were telling me that the max level was 50.
>>339454427
Do you think people saying main really mean they only play that character and not "prefeer that character"
I am a Symmetra "main" because she is my most played character by double the time of my next played. Saying main is easier than "Symmetra is my character I play when team comp and enemy team comp allow it and who I generally prefer to play"
>>339454594
>maining Symmetra
I hope you get all the flak you deserve for pretending you are supporting your team.
As for me, I main the tank class.
My legendaries
Level 20.
I'd say the drop rate isn't too bad. Of course, RNG system can screw you up incredibly bad but I'd say Legendaries are around ~7 or 8 boxes or so. Every 10 boxes or so if you're extremely fucked over by RNG
I'm certain there will be DLC down the line that keeps the game alive.
While I think the amount of classes they have is already plenty, they've already teased a few more with huge hints so we know there will be some of those. There will surely be more maps and possibly game modes too, since 12 maps is obviously not enough to sustain a PC shooter long-term.
I think it'll be around for a while. Maybe not an entire decade like TF2 has managed to do, but that's because TF2 went hog wild and created a literal economy with its item system. TF2 has also gotten a shitload of maps, weapons, and game modes too, but after a while the main source of content became the community and most of that was cosmetics. I don't really want that to happen to Overwatch, even if it means the game dies a little earlier. The microtransaction crates have already left a bad taste in my mouth.
>>339451895
>Buy our "freemium" game!
>While you're at it, here's some other shit you have to pay to play too
>What retards
-Activision Blizzard
Overwatch, SFV, or renew my XIV membership from a year ago?
>>339453814
What? No. DD has really solid gameplay.
>>339454789
I'm almost level 30 and I have exactly one legendary... I just get sprays for days.
>>339451895
Holy fucking shit have you read what you just wrote? Is this all the fucking game is to you? collecting skins? WHAT ABOUT THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY YOU COLOSSAL FAGGOT JESUS CHRIST KILL YOURSELF, WHO GIVES A FUCK HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET VIRTUAL CLOTHES AS LONG AS YOU'RE HAVING FUN DOING IT, AND IF YOU'RE NOT JUST STOP FUCKING PLAYING
>>339454906
I'm at 25 with 0. I just want shark head roadhog
>>339451895
The incentive to play the game is that it is a game that exists to be played
If you need constant unlockables to enjoy a multiplayer game you either don't like it or have ADHD.
>>339454906
surely you have some coins though? Hell, I'd actually rather have coins drop than a random legendary skin for a character I don't even play. At least then I can just pick what skin I want
>>339451895
loot boxes have nothing to do with staying power.
the fact that you can play every single character, and every single map, and every single mode, and get 'good' at all of them in under 10 hours affects the staying power. autists and blizzdrones will always just grind the same shit but the casuals they drew in are gonna flavor-of-the-month this shit unless they have a few years worth of consistent updates. also they have to fix the 50% matchmaking shit and balance issues.
>>339454932
To be fair the gameplay becomes drawl after 3 or so matches in a row.
>>339454759
>literally giving other people shit about Overwatch despite maining a class rather than adjusting play to fit the team's needs.
i had acquired 4 legendary skins from loot boxes alone by level 12. Pure luck
>>339455060
Yeah, I have some coins, but not much. (I think I'm at around 450?)
I guess even though I've been getting mountains of sprays, they've been mostly unique ones. None of which I care about at all since the red X spray is the only one I need. Because it's fun crossing out other people's sprays over and over and watching them get creative with where they place them, trying to avoid my X.
>>339454795
Is this game actually anything like TF2? It was the only game I ever really played besides Tribes Ascend back in the day and I wanna relive the feeling seeing this everywhere.
It's fucking $90 in my country and I don't know if I wanna spend, though. pls help
>>339454594
You're over-complicating things because you're coming from an argument about how you feel, not what's true.
When someone says they main a character or characters, they mean they play as that character or characters the majority of the time. Also typically implies they're decent with the character(s), too.
If somebody makes a fucking 3x3 thread, do you go into it saying, "My favorite game is _____." and then get mad when people tell you what a 3x3 thread mean? Do you then get upset and claim you play other games too, not just that one game, completely missing the point of what people were saying about it being a 3x3 thread to begin with?
If you only main one character in Overwatch, you are objectively a mediocre player at best. Good players main at least a couple of heroes because they know some heroes are just not going to fucking work in some situations or against certain team match ups. When you say you main one character, it sounds like you exclusively play as the one character unless someone else is needed, in which case you'll play as who's suggested rather than who is needed because you aren't efficient with anyone else but your mainand probably Bastion
>>339452489
CITATION NEEDED
fucking retarded shilnigger, go play stillborn
>>339454252
>game based upon on the fly counter picks
>having a "main"
>>339455153
THAT'S A CLEAR FUCKING SIGN YOU SHOULD STOP PLAYING THE GAME THEN
I FUCKING HATE THESE NU-GAMERS JESUS CHRIST KILL YOURSELVES, JUST PLAY THE GAME WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED AN ENDLESS GRIND TO KEEP YOUR ADHD ADDLED MINDS FOCUSED? WHATEVER HAPPENED TO JUST PLAYING THE GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING GAME?
>>339455195
Level 11
Still no legendary skins
>>339455286
>several heroes are always good picks
>counter picking in this game is a joke and doesn't even get close to the depth of it in a MOBA
Why do people keep pretending this game is anything more than a casual shooter?
Call of Duty MP has more depth than Overwatch.
h-help
>>339451895
Your math isn't taking into account medals and other bonus exp sources. Also the boxes aren't the main reason to keep playing, they are one of the many side reasons.
Everytime I get bored I swap to a character sets. I like to learn how to play a specific character on a specific map, then play another character on another map exclusively, until I feel like I have either mastered them or gotten bored. By not doing the same character on multiple maps I stop myself from getting burned out in general on the game. If I get annoyed with a character I just swap and come back later.
Also it might help that I love playing Reinhardt and Mercy in this game. Oh god do I love those two. Mercy is like a cat with ADD and catnip running around healing everyone from across the map, and Reinhardt is just hilarious. You really feel like a guy who is just doing this shit for ADVENTURE, GLORY, AND HONOR!
>>339451895
>3000 per match (10min match)
I've played 30 matches and have 450 coins.
>>339455224
>he liked tribes
I don't know, anon. What's an Overwatch?
>>339455224
Yes. Most heroes are basically TF2 classes with specific builds.
If anything, TF2 technically offers far more variety due to the amount of weapons each of the nine classes have. Most Heroes in Overwatch just have 2-4, all available from the start.
Overwatch also exclusively has payload, king of the hill, and attack/defense maps.
I did buy boxes but i m level 58 which is more boxes then i bought.
>>339455357
But if I grind enough I'll get a sweet portrait. It's not like you have to enjoy what you do.
>post yfw the first new thing Blizzard adds to this game is more skins instead of maps, heroes or game modes.
>>339455448
shit nigger at least buy them in bulk if you're going to waste your money
>>339453347
Play the same map with a different character really changes up everything. You can go from playing Assassin's creed to a freakin' mech-anime weaboo game complete with rabbit anime girl as your character.
Mercy is completely different from Lucio who is completely different from Zenyatta, and they are all completely different from Symmetra who isn't really a support so much as a weird hybrid of everything.
>>339455224
It's sort of like TF2, but 'remixed'. It takes a lot of TF2's concepts and refreshes them with modern game elements inspired by mobas. There are a lot of interesting new class types. Being 6v6 rather than 12v12 like TF2, the main strategy is in your team's composition within the 6-person limit. You have to see what your team has and what the enemy team has, then pick what you think will work in that situation.
If you like TF2, you'll probably like Overwatch. But if you're used to modern TF2, Overwatch will feel a little barebones. It only has 12 maps and 4 game modes, so the scenery gets repetitive. However, 21 classes means there's always something new to learn. The best way to play is to gather somefriendsand form a team.
>>339455153
>To be fair the gameplay becomes drawl after 3
Three matches is 3/21 of the characters in the game. Unless you're twitchy spazz who changes character everytime he dies.
>>339455650Store exclusive skins that cost $10-15 each
>>339451895
Is the only reason you're playing the cosmetic rewards you get?
>>339455526
>Most heroes are basically TF2 classes with specific builds.
>TF2 technically offers far more variety due to the amount of weapons each of the nine classes have.
How many not-meme builds every class in TF2 have really?
>>339455658
but the 19.99 upfront price scares me
then i see the 1.99 price and I'm like "oh hey just buy a couple of these, they're so chea-- what the fuck how did I spend 32 bucks?"
>>339455526
>no capture the flag
Why are the hat jews trying to out jew the jew gods.
>>339451895
>he actually want's progression in shooters.
Well then fuck off to Battlefield and enjoy having an eternal K/D stat while getting matched up with people that have fucking telescopes on their fuckyourifle while you have a shitty vanilla gun. After 20 hours of playing who sees who first you might have cool gun too.
Not even judging Overwatch here but people like you should stay in their cesspool.
>>339455531
You are a tool.
>its a "there's toblerone and his turret and your team just goes one by one trying to make solo plays and die for five minutes straight and you never get the first objective" episode
jesus christ this is hell
>>339455812
It's my favourite gametype, too. Both teams have to simultaneously play defensively and offensively, and when the flag/intel/whatever is taken shit goes down hard
>>339455448
I feel really bad for all the people susceptible to gambling addiction that Blizzard is taking advantage of.
I used to be the same way myself in TF2, so I absolutely understand what's going on in this picture. You bought "just" a couple, hoping you'd get something good. You didn't, so you figured you'd buy "just" a couple more. It's "only" $2, after all. But you still didn't get anything good so you kept going, until you realized that you had spent way more than if you had just bought one of the bigger bundles in the first place. But it's too late now, because Blizzard already has your money.
I'm staunchly blocking myself from buying even a single crate from this game. I just know it'll lead to another slippery slope. I have to remind myself that it just isn't worth it.
>>339455812
>>339455929
>a Tracer with the flag
yeah no thanks
>>339455650
its a 1 map 30+ skins after months of waiting update
seriously though i really fucking hope they dont add 1 map per update
>>339451895
the Blizzard arm of Activision has ~4000 employees.
net income in 2015 was ~$225 million.
that means that employees on average made $56K a year.
if Overwatch is priced at $40(only available to PC players) - it takes ~1,400 copies in order to pay 1 (ONE) employee for a year.
if Overwatch is priced at $60(console cost) - it takes ~950 copies in order to pay 1 (ONE) employee for a year.
averaging those - it takes ~1175 copies.
this means they need to sell about 5 million copies in order to pay JUST the Blizzard employees of Activision for 1 year. they have to be banking on these loot crate micro-transactions to survive unless they roll out paid dlc.
It's a fun game, but buying it is fueling this cancerous company. their marketing budget alone is so fucking stupid its ruined almost every social networking platform on the modern internet.
[Activision has about 3x the employees of blizzard]
>>339455812
It's weird that they left out one of the staple FPS game modes. Also, pushing control points, instead of just attack/defend or KotH
>>339453347
>Right now all we can focus on is the same damn maps with the same damn modes.
Yes, that's what a fps is about.
I will tell you a secret.... the reason why games like cod added all this fancy shit is because they require 0 skill. You dont really get better at a game like that since there is nothing to learn. If you know how to track a charactermodel with a mouse you can join a proteam lol.
So they need to keep their players motivated with a million of rankups and worthless skins.
1.6 has no ranks, xp, skins or any of this shit and is still being played, because of it's nature as a skill-intensive game that is extremely hard to master. You have to practice your aim, spray patterns, movement, nades, strats and everything to even have a chances to get good at it and still ppl do it, cause it is pretty awarding to destroy a noob 45-0.
>>339455526
Overwatch just came out, how many maps did TF2 have when it first started?
Also you are right that TF2 has different weapons, but they only had one of each 'type' f soldier. Overwatch has multiple types of characters.
TF2 has the Sniper who can use a bow or a sniper rifle, but Overwatch has Widowmaker and Hanzo.
Mei is basically the Pyro from TF2 except with more abilities.
We have a guy that can turn into a chaingun, a lady with a huge beam cannon that can do crazy damage, and a mech with dual chaingun to the Heavy's weapon loadout.
The only character not represented is perhaps the Spy, but that might not work with Overwatch.
>>339451895
this thread is everything that is wrong with the FPS genre today.
>>339456035
>People loose the flag if they use a movement skill
there, fixed it.
>>339454789
This is all I've got at level 30. Out of these the only one I really like is obnoxious pink tracer. Would have rather had the other color variant of this skin though.
I would trade all of them for Stonehardt.
>>339452173
ok grandpa, we all now that gaming in the past was all about gameplay.
>>339453347
>Right now all we can focus on is the same damn maps with the same damn modes.
>Doesn't that get boring? Having almost no goals and just mindlessly playing the game?
That is the genre of multiplayer FPS. It is not everyone's cup of tea.
>>339453347
I honestly have probably 2000 hours put into melee. Play a game because you like the gameplay. Not because you want skins and shit
>>339455961
I have maybe played two games, GAMES, not sittings, of Black Jack in my life and spun three slot machines (no more than four or five times each).
But man, fucking shit like Miitomo, Nintendo Badge Arcade, and now these Overwatch lootboxes have been sucking up like $20-40 a month, EACH.
I fucking played cell phone games for a good two years on the pooper when my 3DS had nothing worthwhile on it and my Vita titles were too long to play on the toilet. I've never spent a fucking penny there no matter what game I was playing or how necessary microtransactions were to progress.
But this shit? I'm probably justifying it because it's Nintendo and Blizzard. But I never bought any shit in WoW from back when I still played it and I never bought any crates in TF2 (though I would buy keys from time to time on the marketplace to trade for shit I wanted in-game, but there's no gambling in that). What the fuck is wrong with me?
>>339456040
You do realize that #1 Overwatch isn't the only income source for Blizz, #2 there's no way they're paying that much on average for their employees and #3 there's a lot of costs that go into selling copies of games, especially physical ones so they aren't getting the full price of each copy back
>>339456230
Nope it was about getting good.
>>339456007
Just make it so that using a skill makes you drop the flag. How hard is that to code?
>Tracer blinks
>drops the flag
>Pharah uses her jumpjets
>drops the flag
>D.va tries to boost away
>drops the flag
>>339456007
Just use rules like if she dashes, she drops the flag on the spot. Like if a Spy tries to cloak with the intel.
>>339453607
potg related
>>339456230
>ok grandpa, we all now that gaming in the past was all about gameplay.
>now
go to bed kid
>>339456268
You're being a good goy and happily eating all the shit they're trying to force down their players' throats.
>>339456040
Yes, but Blizzard also has HoTS with its skins, WoW subs which are at an all-time low but still viable, Hearthstone which is HUGE money because of all the streamers doing pack openings and influencing players to buy packs, and all the other small fees and misc packages they sell.
It is all digital content which means it has a very low maintenance fee, and every items sold is pure 'profit' with bandwidth being the only issue.
They use that money to keep their servers going, their employees paid, and their CEOs using golden toilets.
>>339456131
Sry that was for
>>339456007
>>339456106
>how many maps did TF2 have when it first started?
Why do people always pull up this point and go full defense mode when someone criticizes Overwatch's amount of content? Yes, TF2 had even less content at launch. But that was then, and this is now. When weighing Overwatch's current value compared to other options on the market, TF2 outweighs it by quite a lot. Anyone on the fence about dropping $40~$60 on Overwatch should absolutely consider alternatives like TF2, especially when TF2 is free.
It's not necessarily a bad thing or a strike against Overwatch, calm down. Of course at launch it isn't going to have anywhere close to TF2's current amount of content. Doesn't mean TF2 suddenly doesn't exist and isn't also a great option if you're looking for a team-based shooter.
>>339453854
>>339451895
what is peoples problem with this game?
this is like the only good game released in years.
is everyone just such a brainwashed faggot now that they hate good video games?
>>339456567
>/v/ video games
>>339456426
Well I stopped myself after buying the 11 crate bundle, the 5 crate bundle, and six 2 crate bundles.
Only because my Paypal dried up until next pay. They're not getting my savings, at least.
>>339454789
>Level 40
>2 Legendaries
epic xd
Did Louie ever get to play Overwatch?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1blgHzb3DHM
>>339456230
>gaming in the past was all about gameplay.
>>339456268
So long as you are within budget, and it isn't actually preventing you from doing other things you want to do, then there is no reason to feel bad about it.
People have some kind of instinctive need to collect things. Some people collect qurios, some people collect baseball cards, some people collect TV series or special editions of movies, and some people collect skins and special shit in video games.
I think it is from that part of our brain that also needs some kind of religion, even if our religion is specifically being 'not' part of a religion.
So long as you aren't going "Fuck I can't go out to eat tonight because of Loot Crates" or "I want to buy X, but I don't have money because I need to pay bills and $120 bucks for my digital addictions" you are okay.
What's the point of skins if you're the only one dressing up? I can understand stripping your opponents, but doing it yourself? Das pretty gay, yo
>>339456561
Biggest thing OW has going for it is that it's new and fresh and made by blizzard.
>mfw a 50 crate bundle was enough currency to full kit out reinhardt with what I wanted but didn't get a single spray for him
>>339456567
>this is like the only good game released in years.
With opinions like that you wonder why I don't take Overwatch players seriously.
>>339456763
>and it isn't actually preventing you from doing other things you want to do, then there is no reason to feel bad about it.
I want to buy things like a new harddrive and fans for my computer.
That's about it.
Maybe snacks.
>>339456268
I know others will make fun of you, but I honestly know exactly how you feel. I've been caught in those same exact traps. It's so easy to justify to yourself and even easier to just hit the "buy" button when it's all digital and you don't feel exactly how much cash is leaving your account, but at some point you just have to cut yourself off.
I know this video is made to make fun of people (since it's CrowbCat), but it really helped open my eyes. Maybe it'll help you too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
>>339456776
I-I just want to be pretty for everyone to see
>>339456750
> not posting buying skin pack reaction image
Fucking microtransaction generation
>>339452173
why did this post continue after this?
/thread
>>339455929
I like the control point maps in tf2 where there are 5 points, like Granary or well.
How does this game have microtransactions if it costs more than Cawwavdootie?
>>339456897
I thought I had only spent like $20 on Nintendo Badge Arcade in the past month.
Ended up being like $48.
>>339456806
The fucking sprays cost 25 dingdongs you stupid fuck.
Is this the Undertale thread?
![Tears_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZUDXh6R.jpg "Tears_[1].jpg")
>Friends all buy it
>I say it doesn't offer enough over tf2 to justify me dropping $40 on a whim when they'll probably stop playing in under a month anyways
>"Yeah but tf2 won't be fun for you because we're not going to play it with you"
I guarantee they'll stop playing within a week of me buying it too. What do I do?
>>339455267
>You're over-complicating things because you're coming from an argument about how you feel, not what's true.
Ironic.
You can't 'main' more than one character anon, that's why it's called a MAIN. Other focal points are 'second' and 'third' and so forth.
>>339451895
as long as they add maps and content it'll be fine
blizzard won't abandon this game it's already too successful to call a failure
>>339457220
All my friends moved on from TF2 ages ago. I've just learned to enjoy the mindless pubs by myself. Been fun lately after they added those official "alternative" servers. So cool seeing Hydro and DeGroot Keep again.
>>339456331
So now it's a mode where one player has to stop playing the game?
>>339451895
this game has weapon skins
I guess you haven't unlocked any yet opie
>>339457220
Play TF2. It can be played with friends or alone if you're good enough.
>>339457038
Because Blizzard knows they can get away with it in the modern games industry. I know multiple people who bought at least 20 of those crates.
It boggles the mind that Blizzard would have the audacity to put microtransactions in a full-priced game...until you notice that people actually buy them. A LOT of people. It's literally free money for Blizzard, so it's not like I can really blame them for doing it.
talk me out of going to mcdonalds
>>339457220
wait for the update in june see how much content they'll and how they will change the game
seriously the im the one person in my group without overwatch 1 game it sounds like loads of fun next game its just bitching and moaning about the map,character, etc
side note your friends sound like cunts
>>339456561
I am not going full defense mode, you are trying to deflect. I am pointing out that you are taking a game that has been out for almost a decade, with huge revisions, countless special events and 'box opening' specials, and that also has had years of special custom servers, and comparing it to a game that just launched.
It is unrealistic to expect a game to launch with that much content. Overwatch is a solid game that is playable with several modes, 21 characters that are completely different from one another, and lots of very detailed maps. It is about to be out for a full month and they are restoring competitive mode. Comparing it to TF2 content-wise is like comparing it to Battleborn based on gameplay.
The simple fact is that Overwatch is better than TF2 because it is something new. TF2 has been around for a very long time and everything is starting to be very samey. If Overwatch can keep content rolling out, new game modes and stages, and even release a few more characters, then it will very soon eclipse TF2. If Overwatch stalls and fails to keep content rolling out then it will begin to get samey as well. If that happens then TF2 will replace Overwatch because when you have two games that are stale you will usually go with the one that has more content.
>>339457529
burger king is better
>>339451895
>achievements
I was wondering, are some of them even possible past level 5? A lot of them are based on the enemy team being dumb as shit and letting you use your ultimate on 4 people.
>>339456268
>What the fuck is wrong with me?
You apparently spend money on things you want.
>>339457283
>You can't 'main' more than one character anon, that's why it's called a MAIN.
Mains.
There you go, retard.
"You can't 'favorite' more than one character anon, that's why it's called a FAVORITE."
Favorites.
Should I continue, or do you get the point?
>>339456331
They could do it like Loadout did except not quite as retarded. The flag was a special hammer weapon that had a super powerful but limited attack, and while you were holding it you couldn't use any of your normal guns. Something like that except without the instant kill explosion swing would be good.
>>339455738
I would honestly prefer that to gambling on boxes
>>339457372
>Carrying the flag in a ctf match isn't playing the match
I bet you're one of those retards who focuses exclusively on getting kills/payback on opposing team members than focusing on the fucking point.
>>339457529
Fuck those kikes. The dollar menu is practically nonexistent.
i remember the days when if you played a game for the first time you would get your shit wrecked
i remember the days when fps games had custom maps
i remember the days when there were entire servers dedicated to custom maps and modes
i remember the days when games had server browsers
i remember the days when you would have a few servers that you regularly played on, and people in there would recognize you and vice versa
i remember when games took time to master
i remember when "esports" happened organically from the bottom-up
>>339457220
>"Yeah but tf2 won't be fun for you because we're not going to play it with you"
These are not friends. Friends do not make such shitty ultimatums. "lol play what we like or else we'll guarantee you won't enjoy yourself." Get new friends.
>>339457561
I already got talked into buying titanfall on launch by them, I'm not falling for it again
>>339457372
have you never played a game with CTF?
The flag carrier is almost always under some sort of penalty, whether it's moving slower than everyone else, or unable to shoot back at people
>>339451895
>So they are banking on the fact that the gameplay is so super good it keeps the user engaged
Literally the only fucking priority a game should need.
There are games people have played for centuries that never ever needed any achievements, unlocks or other carrot on a stick bullshit to survive.
>>339457625
Mains doesn't work that way champ. It's a word, but that's not what it means.
>>339457853
Titanfall is a genuinely shit game though, unlike Overwatch
>>339457896
And that's why CTF is always universally shit in every game.
>>339457807
>>339457602
I don't think any of them are based on the enemy being dumb so much as you being ready to take that perfect moment. I just got the reaper and mei sprays yesterday. It was glorious. I am still waiting on the opportunity to get my big resurrection achievement, but I am too good of a mercy. My team only die one at a time because they leave momma hen and try to take on the big bad world alone without a damage boost. Maybe I can stop shooting out Junkrat tires until it 'accidentally' gets 4 of my group.... for medical science of course!
>>339456349
>Scout can still move and jump perfectly
Post your better character setups.I don't like her legendary skins
>>339458016
>CTF is shit because I exclusively play with people who don't work as a team
ftfy
>>339456230
I'm taking the bait
Get a fucking job you dumb cunt if you think gaming should be about grinding for unlocks or achievements. At least when you are grinding your life away at your job you're actually getting something tangible to better your lifestyle in some way. Some people actually play games because they want to do something fun or enjoyable, without some carrot on a stick the developer put there to give you the illusion you are doing something important.
Most of the best games of all time were great because they were fun, engaging, and actually worth playing. Not because they had the longest time required to unlock all the stupid, dickwaving aesthetic bullshit that modern gamers just have to have or else they feel like they are wasting their time.
The ADD COD generation, made of dimwits like yourselves literally only cares about how many medals and doodads you have on your profile to share with your vapid friends on social media, and it's the reason why gaming has become stale as fuck recently. Thanks a lot kiddo.
>>339451895
If you like wasting money on games you don't like, the buy more boxes you underage scum fuck. Then kill yourself
>>339457807
>i remember the days when you would have a few servers that you regularly played on, and people in there would recognize you and vice versa
Dedicated servers like this wouldn't actually work for Overwatch with how it's designed because on a server like this it's possible that the server isn't full and you're totally fucked if you're fighting 5v6.
Not saying that it's necessarily a good thing but that's how it is.
3 GREYS 1 BLUE LIFE
>>339452173
>implying people aren't playing overwatch for waifus only
>>339457925
Are people actually retarded enough to try to 'main' someone in Overwatch? I 'main' Reinhardt, Mercy, and D.VA, but that is preference and I swap to whoever counters the enemy best. My favorite POTG was as Genji countering a Bastion. I hit my ulti to kill their team and then reflected enough of "JUSTICE RAINS FRO-AAAAHHhhhhhh~!" to kill Phara. Was glorious enough that some of the other team actually said nice things.
>>339458230
>tfw over 50 and the last legendary I saw was around 31 or 32
>>339456776
I just want to show off on the POTG
>>339453607
>go play tf2
You mean a game which has even worse dressup problems you dopey fuck?
>>339457853
yeah i've been talked into buying flavor of the month, but seriously though im a bit skeptical with overwatch due to blizzard balance but theres also the fact that the group i play with leaves every time they lose againist a stack they go search for a new game
>>339451895
What is with this modern trend in gaming of these colorful cartoon character type games with these so called "competitive" multiplayer modes?
Anyone else notice how this shit just seems to have become a cancerous beast? MOBA are absolutely responsible for this shit.
>>339458403
Neckbeards want to feel important playing their videogames
>>339454252
I bet your fucking main is genji too
>>339458061
>>339458403
i know what you mean
it's like people can't fathom the idea of playing a game that doesn't have some stupid anime character with some quirky bullshit
i think we're just getting old
>>339457220
>Still playing tf2
>>339458403
Nobody is honestly going to take '''''''professional'''''''' Overwatch seriously.
>>339454805
You don't have to pay you pathetic shitposter
>>339458178
You need a job to buy all the microtransactions. I am neet and I only need gameplay.
>>339458186
yes we know overwatch was designed like a glorified moba
>>339451895
Holy shit, what is wrong with you? You play the fucking game because it's fun. If it's not fun to play then don't fucking play it.
Skins don't fucking matter.
>>339452173
This right here should have been fucking /thread
>>339454824
Go xiv. New patch soon
>>339457220
>can't easily afford dropping 40 dollars on a whim
???
>>339457220
If a game stops being fun when you don't play with your friends,it' means it's a shit game with nothing much to offer. A good game should be fun enough by yourself or by playing multi with strangers.
>>339458560
>mfw when I got both this and Imp Mercy in my first lootbox
I thought you were just guaranteed at least 2 bitchin' skins on your first box after you buy it.
>>339458772
good goy :^)
>>339457643
>without the instant kill explosion
Fuck you, that was the best.
I sometimes grabbed the flag just for that and refused to actually cap it.
Man, why did it had to flop?
>>339458603
there's nothing wrong with it, hats and f2p shitters aside
the core gameplay is still there, and the fantastic map design still shines on the classic maps. two things that i can't say for overwatch.
every once and a while i still boot it up and jump into a pl_goldrush server with soldier and its fun as fuck
>multiple medals don't net you more XP
>at best you can cuck multiple teammates out of 40 xp
>>339456404
Playing dwarf is so nice
Do to him I found out how majestic Mercy's run is.
>>339451895
You think you know pain?
I am level 27 and almost every crate has been 3 whites 1 blue.
I have no legendary skins.
I say "almost" because one time I got 2 whites and 2 blues. One time.
This is fucking horseshit.
>>339457372
>>339457896
>>339456331
I'd rather prefer them designing it around the game mechanics rather than breaking them.
Say, you can use whatever abilities you like and are free to cap it in three blinks, but then you have to cap the flag 20 times to win.
Or make it so map features expose lone runners and require coordinated pushes to secure the flag.
Make the flags out of several parts maybe so you have to get all and at the same time.
>>339457643make it like that but swap the hammer for the doomfist
>>339451895
If they keep adding heroes then it has staying power.
>>339457819
You would be shit to have as a friend
> you can't play that game because I don't want to play that game
>>339457565
>Overwatch is a solid game that is playable with several modes
You're joking, right?
Literally two modes: payload and koth.
>>339459317
That's my logic behind it yeah.
Besides, I play dota with all of them Daily and leave out the friends who don't like it so I consider it eve
>>339458061
Anibus best skin. Not outrageous like legendaries but slightly different from base. Wish all epics did this
Overwatch costs £55. That is like 100$.
>>339458927
>he had "map design" and "goldrus" in one post
>>339459435
So why the fuck are you complaining?
>>339459317
He didn't say that? It was more like
>I won't play that game only because you are playing it
>>339459493
"Goldrush is a bad map design"
Retard
>>339457220
>I won't buy a game because of a 4chan meme
>>339459615
Sooo this is some faggots blog now? Why the fuck is he here if he doesn't like/want the game? Useless shitposter he is
>>339459493
If you don't think Gold Rush is a well-designed map, I don't know what to tell you. There's something wrong.
>>339459764
>this is some faggots blog
I thought it was a given
>I want to try this game
>Don't want to waste 60 bucks
fuuuuck. I wish I knew right now if I was going to drop this game like a sack of potatoes or not.
If you play solo, the game has no staying power sue to the matchmaking.
Doing well? Prepare to get worse and worse team mates while going up against premade groups until your winrate went below 50% again.
>>339459891
There was a whole week of open beta before launch you dumb brat.
>>339459891
Why didn't you play the beta fool?
>>339459891
wait for the update in june
I just dropped 20 on loot boxes because I bought the non-Origins version. Why not? I have a chance to get better skins and stuff than the shitty Origins ones.
>>339459973
This. Wish it didnt kick to menu when 2 people leave cause theyre salty
>>339460004
what update? link?
Is there no way to buy icons for your profile? I've gotten nothing but shit and I don't see any way of buying them individually.
>>339459973
It really is just LoL:FPS
>>339451895
>paying money to grind like its free to play
lmao at these cúcks
>>339459973
>If you play solo, the game has no staying power sue to the matchmaking.
I treat it like a snack, I play a game or two in between sessions of others games when I'm not playing with friends
>>339459982
>>339459991
I'm always late to these sorta things. too much shitposting on /tv/ and playing melee
>>339460004
Is there an official date?
>>339459891
fun as hell anon
it was tough to decide for myself too, but the only thing keeping me back from having a good time was jaded 'ol /v/
>>339460134
Underage alert.
>>339460096
its the competitive mode update
http://blizzardwatch.com/2016/05/24/competitive-ranked-play-will-return-overwatch-mid-june/
>>339460231
>keeping me back from having a good time was jaded 'ol /v/
How? /v/ is all over this,like 15 threads always in the catalog
>>339460231
is there a /v/ overwatch group that y'all play with or am I better off playing with randos?
>>339460148
Thing I have seen with this game is it's not something you have to sit and play for hours on end. It's a good time waster to fill in gaps of the day. If you are wanting a new game to sink your teeth into, I wouldn't bother. If you are looking at it as somthing for a change of pace and isn't your main squeeze, then pick it up it'll get more updates and seems to have a strong playerbase
I really hope they add some sort of daily challenge system like they have in Heroes and Hearthstone. That way you would have an incentive to play every day and have some method of reliably gaining credits.
>>339460461
Maybe if you stop avatarfagging with that loli
>>339460383
Have you been in them? Hell look at this one. Full of shitposting hate
>>339460535
Surprised there isn't an exp boost for consecutive days
>>339460569
fine, i'll choose a different loli
>>339460523
this is the answer I was looking for. Maybe I'll wait for the update or maybe a price drop.
>>339459891
>>339460148
>>339460461
Don't get the game. Judging by your avatarfagging you will either be a waifu player or a fucking healer main. Game is a miserable experience for both types and you being salty just makes the game even worse for everyone else around.
>>339460535
>I really hope they add some sort of daily challenge system
That would fuck up team balance in pubs.
Everyone would pick X hero for challenges
They should improve the Weekly Brawl thing with extra rewards.
>>339460678
You do get a 1500 xp bonus for winning on game each day though, but really isn't that much in the end.
>>339460729
>waifu player
So just like everyone else?
>>339452173
/thread
>>339460729
umm... rude? Being a healer main is fun as fuck and important to team comp.
>>339460383
see >>339460589
theres just as many hate threads as fun threads
>>339460461
i mean im onsony console 4000but id friend you otherwise
this game is so much better with friends
>>339460174
mid or late june
>>339459216
i'm 25 and got 3 legendary skins roflmao
>>339451895
>jumps ship
why?
>be playing csgo
>pay $15 just for the game
>no amount of match will give u any free loot crate
>requires $2.50 for each key
>overwatch
>paid $40 for the game
>easily get to level 21
>gotten 20 loots, which is 4 items each box
>in csgo, it would had cost me 20x4x$2.5 = $200 , compared to $40 on overwatch
>faggots are praising valve while trying to shame blizzard
>Literally what
>>339458858
I got Valkyrie Mercy and that biker Torbjorn skin in my first two boxes. By level 10 I had those two, Ifreet Zen, Jailbird Junkrat, and Raindancer Phara.
I just got Wolf Hanzo in my 21st or 22nd level crate. I opened them both at the same time so can't be sure.All I want though is a nice Reinhardt skin, or maybe D.VA Junebug...
>>339452173
/thread
I actually want them to add more skins to the game because half of the orange skins are fucking shit.
>play the game till level 16
>absolutely miserable experience solo
>write a GM ticket asking for a refund
>actually got it
Huh, good on you Blizzard.
>>339461096
so whichever game makes the collection of cosmetic pixels easier is the better game?
>>339460862
He's not wrong. Solo queuing and picking a healer is pure suffering and you can bet your ass that your team will ignore the flankers raping you constantly.
t. Guy who played Mercy enough to make it to top ten on the master Overwatch leaderboards.
>>339452173
/thread
Might as well not respond, the /thread's over.
>>339461418
Can u faggots not be so extreme?
>skins is 100% important
>skins is 0% important
>Hurr Durr if u think skins is somewhat 55% important to u, u r a faggot
Not everything is just black & white, 1&0, right & wrong.
You can value the gameplay #1 while still concern about skins too.
I bought the game because it's extremely fun for me, and it's been awhile since i played such a fun game.
But at the meantime, i enjoy calculating the value of skins, loot crates & other aspects in game.
>>339461387
This. In TF2 you needed one competent person to feel like you make a meaningful impact as Medic. Mercy just is miserable when everyone is Genji/Hanzo/Tracer/Widow, all are spread out, no one is looking behind once until they might notice that healing stopped at some point. Also, with all the auto-aiming ults, wallhacks and instantkill shit you feel so fucking frail alone that is just isn't worth it most of the time.
most single player games require a form of progression because the gameplay is static, dynamic multiplayer gameplay doesn't require a progression system.
>>339461072
oh sorry I lied, I have 2 legendary skins.
Young Hanzo and Young Genji.
Fuck my entire soul.
>>339461650
The fact that digital skins for models hold "value" to you is completely fucked. Getting you to value that item is all part of the marketing machine designed to get you to pump in real dollars (real value) to blizzards coffers. Its the ultimate form of jewery
Within 1 year this game will have:
>being able to buy paint so you can colour heroes yourself instead of the current pallet swap skins in the game
>have different cosmetics for different slots
>have a lot more cosmetics in general
>less than 5 new heroes
>1 - 2 new game mode
>maybe 5 - 10 new maps
Screenshot this post.
>>339462120
I'll screenshot my big cock into your anus I'll tell you what.
>>339461937
>Only way to get skin is through loot box
>can only get loot box via grind/buy
>grind takes time
>buying cost money
>no value
just because you don't care doesn't mean there's no value behind it
>>339462120
>within one year this game will do what TF2 did
